MBT-70 vs Khrizantema - Tank Versus #5

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  • Опубліковано 20 лис 2022
  • Welcome to the new weekly show on War Thunder channel! In "Tank Versus" a variety of vehicles will face each other in order to finally find out who's the best. Today's battle is between MBT-70 and Khrizantema.
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  • @paentjear
    @paentjear Рік тому +228

    This show feels more like some sort off gameplayadvice for players and how they can handle different situations than a real 1vs 1 show

    • @skriv0in0navn
      @skriv0in0navn Рік тому +15

      you really should view these vids for entertainment only

    • @lucasmoreno2154
      @lucasmoreno2154 Рік тому +3

      i think thats exactly it lmao

    • @craftusmaximus
      @craftusmaximus Рік тому +1

      @@skriv0in0navn the problem with this entire show is that no single vehicle is better than another, all of them are very situational and this entire 1v1 depends on what situations they choose which of course does not match up with player experience.

    • @Eytan23sAdventures
      @Eytan23sAdventures Рік тому

      it is what it is

  • @thcfck6870
    @thcfck6870 Рік тому +157

    Honestly I'm sorry I know you have good intentions, but as a veteran player watching the 5 first episodes of this show has been painful, the comparisons are very unfair, the plays are extremely unnatural and the inaccuracies are numerous, please think about changing the format or make the duels less scripted. As of now this is just a demo for all the fancy systems in the game.

    • @Dragon-ye8nt
      @Dragon-ye8nt Рік тому +2

      I concur. The tank movement and positioning does not match what I'd expect from real players.

    • @OldinaryChimera
      @OldinaryChimera Рік тому

      my man just said 🗿

    • @policewilsowilso3950
      @policewilsowilso3950 Рік тому +2

      I swear the way they choose the tank that's wins by a flipping a coin.

    • @ajerman4822
      @ajerman4822 Рік тому

      The older comparisons were better

    • @VividPups
      @VividPups Рік тому

      yea like in the second round. The player wouldn't use the smoke screen and would have just shot especially when that tank has radar lock and the American tank if the smoke screen used would have just used machine guns to try and find the russian.

  • @yuno1707
    @yuno1707 Рік тому +111

    Gaijin on its way to make a 2S38/PT-76-57 fight a Type 60 ATM

  • @capncruncherr
    @capncruncherr Рік тому +287

    how is this a fair comparison, the only real similarity is that they can both fire atgms

    • @mertcanozoglu9104
      @mertcanozoglu9104 Рік тому +58

      nope they have also engine, track

    • @capncruncherr
      @capncruncherr Рік тому +27

      @@mertcanozoglu9104 oh yeah, that's true, my bad

    • @gigachad8425
      @gigachad8425 Рік тому +1

      so what thats an competition tank against anti tank both were in use at same time so whats the problem

    • @capncruncherr
      @capncruncherr Рік тому +20

      @@gigachad8425 ATGM carrier from early 2000s vs a prototype from the late 60s that never went into service

    • @Eire_Aontaithe
      @Eire_Aontaithe Рік тому +6

      They never claimed this show was fair

  • @fishark7440
    @fishark7440 Рік тому +28

    Welcome to the War Thunder early childhood program, where you can see a bunch of amazing matchups that don't even happen in games and America's Mightiest

  • @HIFLY01
    @HIFLY01 Рік тому +119

    Surprised that the mbt won honestly. First 2 rounds were made for the missile carrier cause of the large open areas. Mbt shouldn't have gone in the open honestly

  • @biolock6290
    @biolock6290 Рік тому +73

    Khriz should have won every round, it could have sat behind a bush every round and used its thermals to easily see the mbt-70 every time and destroy it.

  • @TheSovietWombat
    @TheSovietWombat Рік тому +7

    So what your telling me that this is a average game in warthunder?

  • @najwanzahran4357
    @najwanzahran4357 Рік тому +34

    Compare the MAUS with IS-7/ OBJ 279

    • @TheArklyte
      @TheArklyte Рік тому +7

      That's no competition. IS-7 was made AFTER soviet designers examined Maus and came to conclusion that such tank can be produced and it might be useful to plan ahead. So IS-7 alone is already designed to counter Maus.
      Better comparison would be to compare final generation of heavy tanks to first generation of MBTs.
      IE Conqueror, M103, T-10M and Obj279 vs Chieftain, T-64 and MBT-70. Bigger tanks vs better tanks.

  • @Revon-Feuer
    @Revon-Feuer Рік тому +17

    Lmao the news reporter voice talking about chaotic weapons 😂

    • @imamythyouknowyt6860
      @imamythyouknowyt6860 Рік тому

      at first it said the atgm thing has radar, that doesnt spot tanks does it?

    • @derpfin5145
      @derpfin5145 Рік тому +1

      @@imamythyouknowyt6860 Nope it can lock tanks like radar SPAA can lock planes

    • @commandergeokam2868
      @commandergeokam2868 Рік тому

      @@imamythyouknowyt6860 it is a ground radar so yeah it looks into vehicles
      Also it can guide one missile with the radar and guide another one with its lazer as the missiles are both radar guided and beam riders

  • @kocayrklibirinsan3056
    @kocayrklibirinsan3056 Рік тому +38

    ok, this time they both in same BR for RB. but...... we have to add more thing, they they have to be in same vehicle type. so, there should be 9.3 atgm carrier against khrizantema instead mbt70. or, mbt 70 vs 9.3 MBT? maybe t72?

    • @commandergeokam2868
      @commandergeokam2868 Рік тому +1

      Or against the kpz 70

    • @the_realmaquis5224
      @the_realmaquis5224 Рік тому

      @@commandergeokam2868 the American would win after calling in a swarm of P-47s

    • @fraserhill59
      @fraserhill59 Рік тому +1

      @@commandergeokam2868 Kpz and mbt 70 are identical. Maybe xm 803 vs kpz but the 803 is generally just worse

  • @person0-016
    @person0-016 Рік тому +8

    I hope we can get Panther F vs. Black Prince at some point.

  • @gerhelilord4950
    @gerhelilord4950 Рік тому +10

    Attack the D Point!

    • @AlreadyTakenTag
      @AlreadyTakenTag Рік тому

      I agree!
      Defend the D Point!
      Need backup!

    • @Red_Four
      @Red_Four Рік тому

      Funniest time I saw this was a player with a male voice shouted to attack the D point, and a player with a female voice immediately responded with the enthusiastic "I agree!"

    • @gerhelilord4950
      @gerhelilord4950 Рік тому

      @@AlreadyTakenTag Destroy enemy base

  • @boltzxz
    @boltzxz Рік тому +9

    Wow look another tank versus that have vehicles that cant be compared to each other because its not fair. The Khriz has missiles that are 2x faster, gen 2 or 3 thermals and a really good radar for anti tank. Oh, and what does the MBT-70 have? That's right! It has a laser rangefinder. Just like every other tank at that BR. (Besides the Khriz of course, thats why it lost.)
    Edit: The Khriz has a laser rangefinder for some reason. I guess the reason why the MBT-70 won was because it has a heat and smoke shell?

    • @nickblaser992
      @nickblaser992 Рік тому +1

      The MBT-70 is a better tank for the meta of the game. Shoots darts, highly mobile, has at least enough armor to stop AA tanks and HMG’s from front, fires on the move, 20mm turret etc

    • @akid1263
      @akid1263 Рік тому

      did you just say really good radar kek

    • @boltzxz
      @boltzxz Рік тому

      @@akid1263 Yes, is it bad or something? I don’t own the Khrizantema I just thought it was good because I saw a video of it.

  • @serdarcam99
    @serdarcam99 Рік тому +62

    Multi million dollar tank vs some apc strapped with tracking radar and atgm seems fair

    • @ZIONOMANIA
      @ZIONOMANIA Рік тому +16

      more like some apc with aimbot and tandem ATGM capable of penetrating up to 1200mm

    • @serdarcam99
      @serdarcam99 Рік тому +1

      @@ZIONOMANIA mbt 70 has atgm too and it can fire on the move and also it can kill khrizantema with its 20mm cannon it was not even close to being a fair fight

    • @Eire_Aontaithe
      @Eire_Aontaithe Рік тому +7

      @@serdarcam99 God, you're so wrong. First of all, the Krihzantema missile is way superior to the MBT-70's Shillelagh, not only is it faster but it also is tandem.
      And the 20mm gun isn't coaxial, do you know what coaxial even means?

    • @cykablyat123br9
      @cykablyat123br9 Рік тому +8

      First of all... khrizantema is more advanced and probaly costs million dollars too. Second thing is that the atgm system is mounted on a IFV chassis (bmp3 chassis) and not on a apc chassis. Third thing is that the 20mm of mbt 70 is not coaxial

    • @serdarcam99
      @serdarcam99 Рік тому

      @@Eire_Aontaithe yeah but can you fire on the move or you got any armor or speed to defend yourself ? lmao missile doesent mean everything khrizantema is low quality veichle with good missile that not makes it good

  • @user-Vlad954
    @user-Vlad954 Рік тому +11

    If these video were not biased/pre decide they whold have been nice

  • @markusdupree5317
    @markusdupree5317 Рік тому +39

    The skill of the players impresses me

  • @edwardzhao-uv6om
    @edwardzhao-uv6om Рік тому +1

    you know what we really need to see is Tor VS Type93 thats something

  • @carsamba0055
    @carsamba0055 Рік тому +2

    I have a suggestion for you. Pls compare Pz III J and T-80BVM.. could be a fair match. Or Jagdpanther and AH-64 Apache... why not?

  • @JP12345
    @JP12345 Рік тому +2

    Next up: F14 Tomcat vs Yak 28

  • @fuso8639
    @fuso8639 Рік тому +4

    Ho-Ri prod. Vs Ferdinand/elefant
    Seems fair

  • @TDogOh9
    @TDogOh9 Рік тому

    I have a vehicle idea for the game. The vespa 150 tap. It was produced by the French during ww2. It was a modified vespa that carried an m80 recoiless rifle. It was supposed to be used as transport but theoretically it could be fired.

  • @Benjaminsquad391
    @Benjaminsquad391 Рік тому +1

    Khrizentema completely dominate the American MBT70 in range because of the thermals and radar and not having to expose himself. The only scenario tha MBT70 maybe can win is in a street fight close range

  • @liambell708
    @liambell708 Рік тому +1

    Churchill III versus KV-2, I would love to see the victor of those 2.

  • @user-so7rf2qk3h
    @user-so7rf2qk3h 5 місяців тому

    Even if it is inaccurate I still really like the fact that the krisentena was flexing at their opponent and won.

  • @Spammable507
    @Spammable507 Рік тому +1

    lets be real, Wt NEEDS the V-173. "flying pancake"? i mean c'mon

  • @P455w0rds
    @P455w0rds Рік тому +2

    My queation is
    Why would the MBT 70 go in the open field? 🤨🤨🤨🤨

  • @Bizon_Gs
    @Bizon_Gs Рік тому +4

    Cant really say which is better than the other. Its always the position advantage or situation that makes one excel at a certain objective. This is a unfair comparrison

  • @wellggbro3961
    @wellggbro3961 Рік тому

    who pitches this Fights between Tanks vs?

  • @len.216
    @len.216 Рік тому

    imagine actual crews in real life know these moves

  • @farmcat9873
    @farmcat9873 Рік тому +1

    bring them into a city setting and see how it really would be there cuz this Khrizantema isnt gonna be able to do that same thing there

  • @ellinecockburn2601
    @ellinecockburn2601 Рік тому

    Which is better in a fight the rooikat wot or the centuro romor

  • @petr8976
    @petr8976 Рік тому +1

    bro nice comparison try to compare LVT(A)(1) AMTANK vs t90

  • @lowqualitytankturret4614
    @lowqualitytankturret4614 Рік тому +1

    i really think gaijin employees dont get paid if this is staged so that gaijin want the tank they like to win

  • @SorenNido
    @SorenNido Рік тому

    Where's the american tutel vs french tutel video though?

  • @zachcreger6128
    @zachcreger6128 Рік тому +1

    One has ground radar finding the target being and getting the first round off is easier for the radar tank. Playing them close range isnt something I see when coming against them. I always have them going long range hiding behind a short hill unless its a city map

  • @Alessandroinborghesefake
    @Alessandroinborghesefake Рік тому +1

    0:58 Yoo the khriz has an 8km rage

  • @brycel4007
    @brycel4007 Рік тому

    Omg she really said "FORGOTED" 😭😭😭

  • @trainious1679
    @trainious1679 Рік тому

    Shooting range question: What is the best way to play mid tier tanks? Camping or aggressive?

  • @vibecu
    @vibecu Рік тому

    No is the plane, is the pilot
    -tome creuse

  • @kareemmasri4105
    @kareemmasri4105 Рік тому

    Next up on tank versus L3 vs maus

  • @billythebjergged2403
    @billythebjergged2403 Рік тому

    Please compare the 2s38 and the strf 9040C

  • @Am-ugly_af1
    @Am-ugly_af1 Рік тому +1

    At this point do Maus vs obj 120 💀

  • @TheArklyte
    @TheArklyte Рік тому +2

    What I don't get is
    1)why the APDSFS developed for MBT-70 wasn't available to M60A2 and Sheridan aka tanks that actually had to use that(well, not the same, but compatible) gun-launcher in combat?
    2)why was there a full switch to gun launcher unlike partition like what was done with british and american tanks in WWII ie 30-50% get gun launcher, 50-70% get new normal guns(105mm for Sheridan, german 120mm for M60A2 and MBT-70)?
    3)why didn't M60 still get the composite it was supposed to receive even in "starship" variant which already was expensive either way?
    4)was there a plan to fill in spaced armor on MBT-70 with composite?

    • @vaguevtx5090
      @vaguevtx5090 Рік тому

      1. Physics. Too much pressure in a much smaller gun launcher. 2. Purpose. The sheridan was pretty much exclusively for destruction and the starship was designed to be an atgm carrier. 3. The XM1 project was proposed in the mid to late 70s after the mbt 70 and after the m60 was declared obsolete. 4. No it was too heavy and expensive and was canceled before there was even a proposal to put composite in the tank.

    • @vaguevtx5090
      @vaguevtx5090 Рік тому

      Also, the 120 l44 gun was developed after the starship entered service and wouldn't fit in a starship turret

  • @YupItsMack
    @YupItsMack Рік тому +1

    Comparing Apples to oranges

  • @asp2882
    @asp2882 Рік тому +1

    I think shooting down the ATGM with MGs or auto-cannons should not be taken as a possibility in vs. It is very hard to do and very rare. I do agree that the MBT-70 would win since most WarThunder maps are small. Other wide maps funnel players into urban areas because of the capture zones. It's rare to get a long-range map with capture zones you can guard from one thousand meters away.

  • @tajakstan3256
    @tajakstan3256 Рік тому +2

    Performance update.

  • @thisisaduck
    @thisisaduck Рік тому

    How did I think the mbt70 in the thumbnail was an ISU

  • @snowyfox_01
    @snowyfox_01 Рік тому

    there's a couple of ways this should've gone. Have the MBT-70 use a smoke shell to blind the Khriz so it can't use its thermals, and then drive out of the Khriz's small radar scope and catch if off guard, or have the Khriz take a poor shot and the MBT-70 shred it with its 20mm

    • @igororlov3282
      @igororlov3282 Рік тому

      Nothing of this will work, exept maybe using mg 20mm to destroy ATGMs. If MBT-70 use smoke it is best for Khriz because Khriz can lock tanks through smokes, and alone tank in field has zero options to escape. And being in smoke, cannot even see ATGMs
      Best way to MBT-70 is just shoot first with apsfds (with laser rangefinder) and kill Khriz, no smoking

  • @wogelson
    @wogelson Рік тому +2

    Somehow i thought the Russian vehicle couldn't win against the American one...🙄

  • @phil3149
    @phil3149 Рік тому

    Why does spawn protection wear off after 5 seconds when I have 5 enemy tanks in my spawn?

    • @snowyfox_01
      @snowyfox_01 Рік тому

      because you moved

    • @bigoof1105
      @bigoof1105 Рік тому

      If you move more than 15m spawn protection deactivates.

  • @velvetthundr
    @velvetthundr Рік тому

    If the both fired their ATGMs at the same time, the Khrizantema will win because it’s missiles are supersonic.

  • @OldinaryChimera
    @OldinaryChimera Рік тому

    This is a good reason to lower the battle ranking of the khrizantema 🌚

  • @nohaxx422
    @nohaxx422 Рік тому +1

    No bias?

  • @eaeaeeea
    @eaeaeeea 6 місяців тому

    bro in first round ATGM that ignited ammodidnt even hitted the MBT-70

  • @spitfireflyer2205
    @spitfireflyer2205 Рік тому

    what about m48 vs t55

  • @qaterdargon4041
    @qaterdargon4041 Рік тому +1

    If Panzer 3 loses i will be surprised as it is way better,

  • @tacticalreversecard6198
    @tacticalreversecard6198 Рік тому

    after the last episode i see no point watching this

  • @jacobcoughlin1328
    @jacobcoughlin1328 Рік тому +1

    This show would be better is the narrators were not so cringe

  • @xapocotacox
    @xapocotacox Рік тому

    M60(AOS) vs T55A please! Attempt 3

  • @tizanikandothers
    @tizanikandothers Рік тому

    Compare m1 Abrams to the t90

  • @Eur03
    @Eur03 Рік тому +1

    what are these trying to prove 💀

  • @bigoof1105
    @bigoof1105 Рік тому

    Shows Gaijin doesn't play their own game.

  • @rolandhunter
    @rolandhunter Рік тому +1

    If Panzer 3 L vs T-50: Panzer 3 has better armor ;)

  • @SuperIdolGaming
    @SuperIdolGaming Рік тому

    Q: will the Chinese team get any ocean battles any time soon?

  • @takemikazuchishuichi2269
    @takemikazuchishuichi2269 Рік тому +3

    Wow..... why not make Tiger H1 VS Abrams, looking fun. (This episode so dumb, like how can prototype from 1960's against Tank from 2000's who was designed to deal with current generations of main battle tanks like Leopard 2 and Abrams). And the player who play the Khrizanthema he has skill issue. This episode just trying to say Khrizanthema should be at lower BR, and MBT 70 should be at 10.3 lmao. Typical USSR top tier Gaeming

  • @biendevivo
    @biendevivo Рік тому

    Mmm isn't 20mm a cannon, not an MG?

  • @crocowitdaglocko1445
    @crocowitdaglocko1445 Рік тому +1

    L3 vs Maus

  • @sht5265
    @sht5265 Рік тому

    missile flies past MBT-70, its a direct hit

  • @farmcat9873
    @farmcat9873 Рік тому +2

    Who are the players that are actually playing these tanks?

  • @_doggo_.
    @_doggo_. Рік тому

    Pls do bt-5 vs pz38

  • @breezygamer1179
    @breezygamer1179 Рік тому

    why does it feel like the narrators are high

  • @powerhail1346
    @powerhail1346 Рік тому

    Gaijin. Can you do the XM-803 American tank in one of these?

    • @YupItsMack
      @YupItsMack Рік тому

      XM-803 is literally MBT-70 but minus the 20mm

  • @underwaterpowerarmor8700
    @underwaterpowerarmor8700 Рік тому

    radar
    rage : 8km
    it's work on pure power of anger ?

  • @Thunderbox247
    @Thunderbox247 Рік тому +1

    Mirage IIIO as a French premium when?
    I would pay for that

    • @boltzxz
      @boltzxz Рік тому

      Well if it was a premium you would have to pay for it

    • @Thunderbox247
      @Thunderbox247 Рік тому

      @@boltzxz yes I am saying that to give Gaijin incentive for its addition.
      also I have gotten several premiums using Gaijin coin soooooooo yeah it means a bit more from that point if view

  • @radosaworman7628
    @radosaworman7628 Рік тому

    it's almost like whole commiunity is right about uselessness of vehicles that only have ATM's.

  • @pointman2
    @pointman2 Рік тому

    Q: What is the guy who does The Shooting Range's favorite german ww2 tank? (also, in response to my last comment on the shooting range, *eats imaginary brick* ) [also, "the most bonkers show about which tank is stronger" bro im dieing lol]

  • @child_predator34
    @child_predator34 Рік тому +1

    why compare them?? this makes no sense

  • @Vincent7186.
    @Vincent7186. Рік тому

    Can we please have the X-ray of the attacks please !!?

  • @GREATRussia1990
    @GREATRussia1990 Рік тому

    If i was with that Khrizantema it was gonna be 3 : 0 for me!

    • @fishark7440
      @fishark7440 Рік тому

      I think gaijing is purely misleading players

  • @marcwienke7586
    @marcwienke7586 Рік тому +1

    BRING BACK BREAK GAIJIN

  • @simon2493
    @simon2493 Рік тому

    Khrizantema did well at tertian for witch it was designed

  • @ei_had3098
    @ei_had3098 Рік тому

    Is4m vs tiger 2

  • @ross.l8381
    @ross.l8381 Рік тому

    The more I watch this series the more I wonder whats the point of these videos.

  • @sushiman3817
    @sushiman3817 Рік тому

    This is such a strange show. It feels like they are trying to give advice on rarely used tanks or something but in the process they're diminishing the pros. Like that was radar strat is pretty big brain but the mbt-70 has smoke grenades that would save him. The duals feel just off.

  • @olehanemaaijer5639
    @olehanemaaijer5639 Рік тому

    gaijn trying to prove russian bias doesnt excist

  • @xenon3236
    @xenon3236 Рік тому

    do sherman vs t-34

  • @lorraine40t42
    @lorraine40t42 Рік тому

    Lamo I confuse that bwd have ever played the game or only played on lives

  • @commanderkei9537
    @commanderkei9537 Рік тому

    Yeah uh… this show seems like it’s going to have some teething problems before it finds its footing

  • @glorbous
    @glorbous Рік тому

    Do bmp2 vs PUMA

  • @danmen5258
    @danmen5258 Рік тому

    i love the topic of this series, but I dislike how the matches are played, or either the player using the Khrizantema doesn't know a thing of how the tank is played (obvious fatal mistakes) or the matches are setup for entertainment and don't reflect the real performances and uses of the tanks

  • @SemperSlick
    @SemperSlick Рік тому

    NEWS FLASH! The mini map is radar for all tanks.

  • @superiorbear6382
    @superiorbear6382 Рік тому

    He achieved “taste of his own medicine”

  • @n1co2017
    @n1co2017 Рік тому

    why is there always an atgm being shot down in almost every one of these can you pls just make non scripted battles like back in the day maybe you could go and watch the old episodes of “tank versus” to improve these ones.

  • @McDonnell_Douglas_F-4_Phantom

    Day 5 of asking for more a4 Skyhawks for the US tree

  • @TheNicestPig
    @TheNicestPig Рік тому +1

    Literal clown Khrizantema player, i take that thing to 11.0 fine

  • @dustinriva9927
    @dustinriva9927 Рік тому

    Pz III is my vote

  • @McDonnell_Douglas_F-4_Phantom

    Day 4 of asking for more a4 Skyhawks of the US tree

  • @vincenzobrasiello7540
    @vincenzobrasiello7540 Рік тому

    the last round was kind of an unfair round even the russian could have shoot the mbp not 1 but twice

  • @FlirBlitz
    @FlirBlitz Рік тому +2

    Are we gonna ignore how range on the kriz radar is rage