The History and Significance of the Crown of Scotland and the Lying in State of Queen Elizabeth II.
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In recent days we have witnessed Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II Lying in State in St Giles Cathedral in Edinburgh, with the ancient Crown of Scotland resting on her coffin. This video tells the extraordinary history of this important cultural object, how it came to be made, and the significance of this symbol of Scotland's self-determination.
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Being of Scot heritage I think the simplicity of the crown makes it the most beautiful of all the crowns.
I have never seen the Crown Jewels of Scotland, never really thought about it them having ceremonial Honors separate from England before. This crown is beautiful with out being over the top. I guess I need to research more, as James II of Scotland in my 15th great grandfather.
It's the best crown among them all. I love it🤩👍. Very simple and beautiful 🇿🇲
It really is!
Yes. The beauty is in its simnplicity.
Thank you. That honor is a tribute to how much the Queen was able to unite people.
She was an extraordinary person Bob - she did have that natural ability to unite people. I think she did a lot of that through her humour.
@@allanbarton Your nation was blessed to have her.
Amazing information. Thank you for educating this American from Las Vegas.
I'm the same it's so fascinating to me and my wife we are hooked on this channel now, from Texas by the way.
@@Glenn036 Amazing history compared to our baby country!
My pleasure!
Glad to have hooked you!
@@allanbarton I live in New Jersey, USA and I’m hooked too!😊
That Crown has amazing craftsmanship. I really like how the pearls are mounted. And the 4 gold settings with the larger pearls between the arches.
How interesting Allan. There is something arresting about this crown. Simple yet full of a meaning that was fully understood by the late Queen. And the green cushion was an excellent touch of course.
Yet, so far as I know, she never spoke a word of Gaidhlig or Welsh...
Interesting that the standard on her casket while in Scotland, the Scottish Royal Standard was on her casket. Also, the Charles and Anne wore their sashes and stars as Knights of the Thistle, rather than Knights of the Garter. Fascinating this bit of ceremony to see in Scotland!
The first time any royal funeral has happened in Scotland since the mid sixteenth century so lots of new precedents set. It was fascinating to watch.
To my mind, it would not be unusual: the Royal Standard of Scotland was always flown in Scotland during life when the monarch was in residence there. It would have been a real faux-pas to use the non-Scottish one.
The Royal arms of Scotland also appear on buildings in many places in Ballater near Balmoral where local shops display them to indicate that they are "By Royal Appointment".
The Scottish crown appears on the Royal Mail vans and uniforms plus the pillar boxes👍
@@forbesmeek6304 Did not know that (American). Fascinating! Thanks for the knowledge!
@@MrBulky992 Interesting! Didn't know that! Outside of seeing pictures of the Standard on Balmoral, that's all I knew of (American trying to learn new things). I'm glad Scotland was able to shine, even in a time of mourning.
Your videos are so informative and presented so professionally, thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I love your videos keep up the good work! 👍👍👍❤
Hope you make a playlist with all the videos you have on your channel. Makes it easier to listen to.
That's a good idea!
This video has earned you a subscription. Well done indeed. God rest Her Late Majesty, Elizabeth, Queen of Scotts. God save the King.
Thank you very much for the subscription. God save the King.
Just one "t" Richard. We are Scots. The Scotts are a family.
@@AV-fo5de OH!!! Thank you! That's actually quite helpful. 🏴🇬🇧🇺🇲
@@allanbarton you're quite welcome!
@@rickythe2nd63 No problem! Glad to have been of help!
As a lover of both The Crown Jewels and The Honours I say thank you for this extraordinary documentary. Like yourself I have all the books on the jewels and even a copy of The Imperial State crown. An excellent channel. Also what a lovely speaking voice you have.
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Thank you Chris, that is so kind of you to say so. I have been obsessed for many a year with the crown jewels and I think the Honours of Scotland are the most beautiful of the lot. They have a delightfully uneven charm to them - the finish of the goldsmithing is not too perfect.
Excellent and most informative. Thanx for this and all the very best to you ☺️👍🏻
Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed it!
I have to say I was in ignorance of the existence of this crown until recent sad events brought it to my attention. Thanks for the very interesting video.
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Wow, brilliant presentation!
Glad you liked it, thanks for watching!
Great video very informative
Glad you liked it
As Voltaire said 'we look to Scotland'
Our Texas independence from Mexico in 1836 was inspired by the independent spirit of the Scots and English who had settled Texas.
This is such an exquisite crown. I had never seen it before, or pictures of it, until it was resting on the late Queen's coffin in Scotland, and I immediately thought that it is finer work and more beautiful than the Imperial State Crown of England. I really hope that His Majesty the King chooses to wear this at some point during his coronation ceremonies. Since Charles II was the last to wear it, Charles III would be a most fitting recipient. I'm sure he must appreciate the workmanship with his artistic eye, and like beloved Queen Elizabeth II, is fully aware of it's significance. Of course, being South African, I don't know how the Scots would feel about that, but how lovely the crown is, and how lovely it would be to see it worn. The Fleurs de Lis and the crosses are in the exact opposite places to the English crown, and they are very finely engraved/cast. I didn't realise that there was Robert de Bruce's blood in the current royal line. How very interesting! My great grandfather on my father's mother's side was Scottish. Although I'm a royalist, I was brought up to venerate Robert de Bruce as well, and was very interested to see his grave in the Cathedral on the coverage of the Queen's lying in state. I was also very interested to see that the Fleurs de Lis are in the Scottish crown. So, according to what I know, I may be wrong, there is also the Christ Bloodline in the Scottish crown? According to Cathar stories, I do believe. I may be wrong!
The Scottish crown will play no part in the coronation as it cannot leave the country. Scotland has followed the tradition of the other European monarchies, (of which Scotland is the oldest) where the monarch no longer wears the crown. The English Royal Family died out in 1603 and the Scottish Royal Family took over the English throne so the present King is decended from King Robert I.
@@charmainelamont2020 , thank you so much for answering me. Maybe King Charles needs to go up to Scotland then, and be crowned there also, as he took his Accession Council vows there also. It is just so exquisitely beautiful.
Tbat crown can surely make me feel like a king🤩👍🇿🇲🇿🇲 oh how i love crowns.
Since Elizabeth II died, there has been much publicity, not so much thought about why she matters. The monarchy shouldn't be used as real-life soap opera, nor as mere material to fill newspapers. Why is monarchy helpful ? In the 19th & 20th centuries the U.S.A, France, Germany, Russia, Italy, Spain and Greece suffered in various ways civil wars, political storms, and dictatorships. This shows what can go wrong in the absence of a head of state which is above politics, and which opposes illegal dictatorship. If there are many reasons England, Wales, Scotland, Canada and Australia have had no civil war since Culloden in 1746, having a constitutional monarchy to unify all the people is an important one. In the UK, 'peace' in formal speech is "The King's Peace".
Of course Elizabeth II & Prince Philip had their failings as parents; King Charles III's first marriage was a tragic mistake; Prince Philip could be tactless. Whatever mistakes the royal family have made, let us be grateful for the service they give, and for the difference the monarchy makes for the better, in the UK & the world. The sea around it didn't protect the U.S.A. against civil war in the 1860s, and the UK could have suffered civil war over slavery in the 19th century, or over world war, economic failure or loss of empire in the 20th. There will always be violence and political problems in the world, and billions of people who know or understand nothing of the huge, tangible power for peace and stability the British crown is for everyone in Britain, the commonwealth (e.g. Canada & Australia) and for the world. Since the 1700s, billions of people have lived under the British crown without civil war, lynching, dictatorship in their lives. God save King Charles III.
Thank you for the most intelligent, interesting and accurate look at the history of the Scottish Crown Jewels that I have ever come across. I am wondering with Scotland again becoming more aware of its nationhood, whether there will be agitation for them to be incorporated into the coronation of King Charles next year.
They'll be a lot of interest when someone comes for the stone of destiny.
@@bombski5657 we want it back after the coronation. 🏴🏴
My favorite crown. Awesomer
Loving your videos. Would you mind doing a video on the queen consort crown Camilla will eventually be crowned with?
I'm not sure precisely which crown she will use, or whether a new one will be made. She may use Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother's crown. Once ot is confirmed and we get closer to the coronation I will start making some videos on different aspects of coronation ceremonial.
@@allanbarton Amazing, Thank you!
"Scottish gold..." mentioned at 4:52. I didn't know Scotland had/has gold mineral wealth, or that gold could be found anywhere in the British Isles.
Yes, a surprising amount is to be found, though it is no longer economic to mine. In Wales gold was mined from Roman times and the royal family have a supply of it which is used to make wedding rings.
Gold is now mined and processed commercially at Tyndrum in the
Highlands.
Can you comment on the object called a wand that was found with the Honours of Scotland when it was rediscovered by Sir Walter Scott and others? What was its purpose and is it really part of the Scottish Crown Jewels?
I'm curious as to why the crown was so seldom worn?
Officially, it is 'too delicate'.
It is old and delicate, also with the union of the two crowns it became redundant when James VI of Scotland became James I. He never returned.
Scotland has followed the custom of other European monarchies where the monarch no longer wear a crown.
It was used at Charles I's coronation in Edinburgh in 1633 and Charles II's at Scone in 1651.
It was also habitually carried on a cushion and displayed in the King's absence at sessions of the Scottish Parliament until the latter's dissolution in 1707.
At that point, there was no longer a separate kingdom of Scotland: no Scottish coronation and no Scottish Parliament to open. Subsequent coronations were to crown the king of Great Britain: as they took place in England, the former English regalia has always been used.
The regalia of Scotland, no longer needed, were locked away in a chest and only rediscovered by Walter Scott in 1818.
The first king to visit Scotland as king since 1651 was George IV in 1822 but he did not have any interaction with the Scottish regalia and, as far as I know, none of his successors who visited Scotland, Victoria, Edward VII, George V or George VI did either.
In 1953, Elizabeth II attended a ceremony in St Giles Cathedral, Edinburgh where she was presented with the crown which then went back to its home in Edinburgh Castle.
It was not until 1999 when the new devolved legislature, the Scottish Parliament, was created that the crown was used again. It was carried on a cushion for the State Opening (held in the Assembly Hall of the Church of Scotland in Edinburgh) and for all subsequent state openings to the present. The crown is traditionally carried before the sovereign by the Duke of Hamilton.
I think if the crown and the rest of the regalia are "fragile", they should be fixed to make them robust!
Does anyone know where the 1953 Painting of Queen Elizabeth and the crown painted by Stanley Cursiter is located. Stanley Cursiter is my father’s cousin.
Apparently it is in Holyrood Palace. A fantastic painting and superb artist.
@@allanbarton thankyou might there be a copy somewhere on the internet ? I’ve seen many paintings by Stanley Cursiter however never this one
@@andrewrusack580 A quick search online and you will find the picture. It is also reproduced in a book about the artist published by Orkney Museum a few years ago. Elsewhere on UA-cam is a Pathe newsreel of the Queen's visit on that occasion. During the singing of the National Anthem you can see a white-haired figure partly concealed to the right of the altar/communion table doing something with his hands. I wondered if it was Cursiter making his preliminary sketch. There are various stories about his views on the Queen wearing normal day dress for the occasion instead of something more elaborate. How accurate these are or how exaggerated by those with a Nationalist grievance to nurture I don't know.
@@postscript67 I was a young girl when she was handed the crown. There was a bit of an uproar at the fact she just wore day clothes to receive the Crown Of Scotland in her hands. Many felt it was an insult and that she could have worn something more regal looking befitting her station. None of the Royal Mail Boxes in Scotland had E11R on them. If memory serves me right, they tried it and some got blown up. The Queen was not recognized as Elizabeth the second, there never had been an Elizabeth the first, so they gave up and the mail boxes in Scotland just had ER on them. They will eventually be changed for Charles.
@@Anastajia2005 Scottish postboxes installed during Elizabeth's reign only had a crown on. Charles's cypher will only appear on new boxes present boxes will remain the same if you look around you will notice that there are atill some postboxes dating from before Elizabeth's reign with the cypher of previous monarchs on them
She is not Elizabeth II in Scotland....she is Queen of Scots
Technically Elizabeth the first of Scotland…
Her son is however still Charles the Third…
@@allangibson8494 The Queen called herself Elizabeth II so she was Elizabeth II in all of her relams. In Scotland too. The monarch chooses their own name.
The Queen was Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom. The Kingdoms of England and Scotland were dissolved in 1707 when the new Kingdom of Great Britain came into existence. After that date, the sovereign had a single regnal number used in both former realms.
The regnal numbers of rulers of the UK take account of regnal numbers of previous monarchs of the UK and of the former kingdoms of Great Britain Scotland and England. If there are competing numbers, the higher is always used.
For example, if there is a future king of the UK named James, he will be James VIII of the UK, Alexander will be Alexander IV of the UK, William would be William V and Henry would be Henry IX.
According to those rules set down in writing in the 1950s, our late Queen was Elizabeth II of the UK. Despite having a monogram in Scottish post of "ER" with the "II" omitted (specially designed to appease nationalist sentiments at a time when post boxes were being blown up), she was never Elizabeth I of Scotland because the Kingdom of Scotland (like the Kingdom of England) no longer existed (except in romantic imaginations) any more than did the Kingdoms of Wessex, Mercia and Northumbria!
I thought the queen in scotland was nicola 🤮
@@paulkojat1526 Nicola has no desire to be Queen and gets on very well with the King, as she also did with the late Queen.
Believe it or not: the truth is there's a surge of fans becoming jnterested in the history of Scotland & anything Scottish because of Major JOHNNY THOMPSON. Hoping for more to come. 🙏💥💞
By far the prettiest crown!
Agreed, it is really lovely.
It's a shame the honours aren't used by the monarch e.g. when in the Scottish parliament.
They are carried into the chamber before the monarch.
The duke of Hamilton carries the crown. Charles will never get to wear it. There are dozens of peeps in Europe with a better claim than Charles. He will have to content himself with the pricey Walmart stuff in the Tower of London👍
Scotland was a kingdom from the 8th century or perhaps 9th century under Kenneth MacAlpin who was king of Picts and Scots 🤗
Scotland is the oldest monarchy in Europe.
Will King Charles be crowned with this Crown as well in time or will he formally accept it in the same manner as his mother did? I imagine there will be only one coronation overall but just curious. His name is Charles after all.
I think he will do as his mother did, unless of course Scotland does eventually become independent. Then they might rethink. The last person to wear it was Charles II in the 1650s. It is a shame as I think it is a sublimely beautiful object.
If King Charles plays his cards right he can ingratiate himself to Scots. He should have a Presbyterian coronation in Scotland with the Scottish crown.
That would be a miserable affair a Presbyterian coronation.
@@allanbarton not at all, despite stereotypes to the contrary the Presbyterian Church is a very warm and welcoming place, it just doesn't put much stock in things like anointing oil, ornate hats (for clergy) and golden crooks.
Why were there fleur-de-lis on the Scottish crown? As far as I am aware, the kings of Scotland never claimed the throne of France or French territory(the English ones did of course)
Mary Queen of Scots was married to Francis and spent years in France..
Fleur de Lis is a French/ Italian symbol
Fluer-de-lis are found in many crowns and has nothing to do with claiming the French throne.. The crown of Tonga has them and they certainly don't claim the French throne.
Please see the Auld Alliance. For this, the wikipedia article will suffice.
The fleur-de-lys is a symbol of purity and of the Blessed Virgin Mary - the alternating crosses and fleur-de-lys are emblematic of Christ and Mary's blessing upon the sovereign's rule.
Yes, the Tonga crown is based on British crowns.
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I'm a little confused: the crown 👑 I see on the Queen's coffin is purple. Is this an old picture of someone else's coffin? Or did they switch crowns when the Queen was moved to England? 🇬🇧
Yes, this is the ancient crown of Scotland with the red cap, the one with the purple on is the Imperial state crown- essentially that of England, but now representing the Union.
When the Queen was lying in state in Edinburgh, the Scottish Crown lay on her coffin on a green cushion. For her lying in state and funeral in England, it was the English/British Imperial State Crown on a purple cushion. Same Queen, two different occasions and two different crowns.
Also two different positions for the crown: in Scotland, over her head; in England, placed at the centre of the top of the coffin.
@@MrBulky992 Actually the imperial state crown was bolted to the coffin for the funeral (after it fell off her grandfather’s coffin).
@@allangibson8494 Yes, that's right: and the same for the orb and sceptre. I was more concerned that the orb might just roll off and away. They didn't do that for the Scottish crown which explains why it was only on the coffin when it wasn't being moved.
The Imperial State Crown was very accident-prone: at the State Opening of Parliament in 1845, the Duke of Argyll let it slip off its cushion in procession and Queen Victoria wrote "it was all crushed and squashed like a pudding that had sat down" (whatever that means). No wonder that crown was retired after the mishap at George V's funeral!
If Scotland wants independence, let them have it. Scotland is not a servant......
Are the regalia not the symbol of Scotland's independent nationhood?
Worlds oldest Crown he haw to do with Britain.
Hi Allan, do you think that this choice of crown was a subtle message conveying Her Majesty's desire for the continued union of the Kingdom? Do you think this has implications for any upcoming votes on Scottish referendum?
No....the Imperial State Crown was on HMTQ casket, not this one....
The SNP has always said it would retain the monarchy. Wanting to dissolve the 1707 union doesn't mean that the 1603 union would go too.
@@irenedemarco1354 when in London, correct. However, while her casket was in Scotland, this Crown was on her casket, as was her standard as Queen of Scots.
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@@irenedemarco1354 You're welcome! Too many online forget manners and common decency. We all have places to learn, and one should hope to keep learning throughout life. Many blessings to you Irene! :)
I was told by a Scot that Charles has no role in the parliament and yet went there to lord it over MSPs by sitting on the speakers podium with his wife and used his mother’s death as a power play to send a message to Scotland. That there was no transfer of power that took place and it was unconstitutional for him to sit either side of the speakers podium with his wife. Even Elizabeth when she went to parliament would sit below the speakers podium and in a guest chair. Any Scottish citizens able to shed light on this?
As a Scot myself, I know just the sort of Scot you have been speaking to. Poor you!
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You were told wrong. As King of Scots he will open the Parliament and he will sit where his mother sat. On this occasion he was invited by the Scottish Government to hear tributes to the late Queen and that is why he sat on the podium.
Queen Elizabeth opened the Scottish Parliament ten times during her reign. Was she "lording" (or "ladying"?) it over the MSPs? If it was inconstututional for her to do so, you would have thought someone would have mentioned it at the time?
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