Wolves Have Taken Over a Marine Ecosystem

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  • Wolves are amazing hunters, so they tend to be apex predators wherever you find them...including one region in Alaska where these land-based predators sit atop a marine food web.
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  • @Illumina_Blade
    @Illumina_Blade 4 місяці тому +7061

    give 'em 3 million years and we'll have bona fide seawolves.

    • @Cobbido
      @Cobbido 4 місяці тому +529

      Could take way less time than that. Grizzlies and Polar bears only diverged a few hundred thousand years ago.

    • @pasta-and-heroin
      @pasta-and-heroin 4 місяці тому +300

      @@Cobbido gills tend to take a little longer
      this was a joke, please stop telling me about dolphins & whales you are very smart and i believe you

    • @Reverae
      @Reverae 4 місяці тому +507

      Or they would turn into crabs. Everything eventually turns into a crab.

    • @orbislame
      @orbislame 4 місяці тому +133

      Seabears too. That’s how Polar Bears are gonna survive climate change.

    • @orbislame
      @orbislame 4 місяці тому +281

      @@pasta-and-heroinGills? Where they’re going they don’t need gills. Source: I am a whale

  • @machfassett5749
    @machfassett5749 4 місяці тому +4701

    There's also a population of wolves on Vancouver Island who have done a similar thing! About 80% of their diet is made up of sea life, largely salmon and shellfish.

    • @zadtheinhaler
      @zadtheinhaler 4 місяці тому +191

      I was just gonna post that, wolves are so damn awesome.

    • @MrTuneslol
      @MrTuneslol 4 місяці тому +268

      iirc they also have displayed some rapid evolution, Ike the webbing between their feet becoming more pronounced already. I'm not positive on the actualities but I seem to recall some sort of differences in their morphology already. Evolution can and does happen fairly fast sometimes depending on the relative pressures. There's a cool case study of bird living inside underpasses and we were able to observe their evolution in only a couple decades, developing shorter tail feathers so that they can better dodge oncoming vehicles. Super cool stuff.
      Also, in the case of the wolves, if they literally need to eat the marine life because they decimated the rest of their prey, then that's a pretty strong pressure to see adaptation in a relatively short amount of time. Can't hunt in the water? Don't eat. Simple as that!

    • @sapphirII
      @sapphirII 4 місяці тому +56

      ​@MrTuneslol I am bummed I will never get to see canine-based cetacean-like mammals. (If their population managed to evolve into fully aquatic animald)

    • @IrisGlowingBlue
      @IrisGlowingBlue 4 місяці тому +3

      ++

    • @Myhouseisfullofweirdos
      @Myhouseisfullofweirdos 4 місяці тому +28

      Thank you for noting this! I'm a born Islander, been here my whole life.

  • @akpsyche1299
    @akpsyche1299 4 місяці тому +1938

    Finally, the University of Alaska Anchorage's seawolf mascot has some representation.

    • @jennytweet7602
      @jennytweet7602 4 місяці тому +59

      Good job University of Alaska.

    • @aamirrazak3467
      @aamirrazak3467 4 місяці тому +69

      They were ahead of their time w the choice of mascot

    • @Abdega
      @Abdega 4 місяці тому +45

      UAK Anchorage: Oh yeah! It’s all coming together

    • @bobabandit
      @bobabandit 4 місяці тому +38

      Also, Stonybrook University's

    • @kameronmatthews1156
      @kameronmatthews1156 4 місяці тому +17

      I literally go to UAA, and this was my first thought lol

  • @ComradeCatpurrnicus
    @ComradeCatpurrnicus 4 місяці тому +2807

    Ecosystems can be so complex. Who are we disallow wolves from evolving into the sea? Nobody stopped the whales from transitioning back to the sea. Maybe the sea dogos and otters can evolve to live together.

    • @pasta-and-heroin
      @pasta-and-heroin 4 місяці тому +165

      exactly!! this is why fighting against climate change & forest destruction is so important. if the trees decided to evolve & transition from the oceans to living on land, then it is wrong to cut them down.

    • @user-pg1ns1tf3o
      @user-pg1ns1tf3o 4 місяці тому +82

      @@pasta-and-heroin yeah that argument won't hold up if you say it to a republican, sadly they lack neurons

    • @geoffzuo9831
      @geoffzuo9831 4 місяці тому +88

      @@pasta-and-heroin A question lies in preserving biodiversity: If cats and rats and hogs are evolving into new forms in the outback, should we encourage new species forming in front of our eyes, or should we shoot on sight to preserve existing wildlife species?

    • @js66613
      @js66613 4 місяці тому +26

      @@geoffzuo9831 Yeah, they'll give the dogs the benefit of the doubt, but not a cat, rat or hog, and never question the impacts on biodiversity caused by the wolves beyond the immediate ones that don't account for things over the long term...

    • @chrismeandyou
      @chrismeandyou 4 місяці тому +4

      your mindset would let chaos and terrible things happen to the only important species on the planet

  • @themadsamplist
    @themadsamplist 4 місяці тому +752

    Well, that's how whales started

    • @ComradeCatpurrnicus
      @ComradeCatpurrnicus 4 місяці тому +53

      Seems like it's working fairly well for them.

    • @parkerdixon-word6295
      @parkerdixon-word6295 4 місяці тому +55

      Why are people using whales as their examples of marine mammals in this thread? Seals Exist! Something a lot like this has happened before in *the same branch of mammals!*

    • @magentamonster
      @magentamonster 4 місяці тому +24

      @@parkerdixon-word6295 Whales are kind of more dramatic. Also, does it really matter that they're even-toed ungulates rather than carnivorans? After all, their ancestors were land carnivores, like carnivorans.

    • @sandpiperr
      @sandpiperr 4 місяці тому +9

      @@parkerdixon-word6295 Why not?
      What are you a seal? Why are you so offended that whales are the favorite example?

    • @mariobenedicto3582
      @mariobenedicto3582 4 місяці тому +3

      @@user-sp1fn2le5e Wanna hear a mouse howl at the moon?

  • @tastyneck
    @tastyneck 4 місяці тому +598

    The reintroduction of wolves into Yellowstone is super interesting and I think either helped support or re-establish how we think about food webs/pyramids.

    • @user-zp7jp1vk2i
      @user-zp7jp1vk2i 4 місяці тому +15

      put the coyote into it's place, which saved river otters, who now saved the trout, who saved.......!!!

    • @anneterry3660
      @anneterry3660 4 місяці тому +9

      Studies isolating deer herds on islands free of predators resulted in unhampered breeding and eventual starvation as the herds outgrew the food sources ability to regenerate, can in result in soil loss with insufficient plants to anchor the soil. Domestic animals, cows and sheep, are close croppers and the result in lengthy time for regeneration of grasses. Wild life herds, deer, elk, antelope, and others are tall croppers, can stimulate new growth without leaving the base of the plants open to drying out and runners/roots dying off.

    • @shalishaska6636
      @shalishaska6636 4 місяці тому +3

      The wolves 're-introduced' weren't the indigenous rocky mountain greys. Canadian greys that they put in Yellowstone are twice the size of the indigenous wolves and have all but replaced the indigenous wolves in the Rockies making the Rocky Mountain Grey wolf all but extinct on top of killing over 70% of the elk birthing population just south of the park in the elk refuge outside of Jackson Wyoming. They continue to disrupt the ecosystem along the Rockies forcing more human to animal contact with coyotes, bears, and cougars.

    • @Zfb124
      @Zfb124 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@shalishaska6636you do understand that the wolves were introduced to lower the bovine population sizes right?

    • @deanfirnatine7814
      @deanfirnatine7814 4 місяці тому

      Who would have guessed fish and beavers boom when wolves are around, I did notice in Yellowstone before wolves the lack of vegetation around streams there. By the way pretty sure most of the damage done there was by elk not deer (yes deer family).

  • @AaronSaysSKOL
    @AaronSaysSKOL 4 місяці тому +610

    Imagine you're on some Alaskan cruise and see a whole ass wolf pack in the ocean.

    • @noelht1
      @noelht1 4 місяці тому +5

      And then you sue the cruise line because you’ve had paid to see a pod of whales. #America!

    • @MidnightWonko
      @MidnightWonko 4 місяці тому +37

      What's an ass wolf?

    • @osonhouston
      @osonhouston 4 місяці тому +25

      An unintentional consequence of wolves hunting sea otters is wolves making their way on orcs' menu.
      Simular to how moose are preyed on by orca when they dive to eat sea weed.

    • @PariahSojourner
      @PariahSojourner 4 місяці тому +11

      ​@@MidnightWonko
      Hmmm..., ASSWOLF. A personalized license plate idea?

    • @jra5
      @jra5 4 місяці тому

      @@MidnightWonko Assinara Wolf (Canis Oceanus)
      Commonly referred to as the Ass Wolf, the Assinara Wolf, scientifically classified as Canis Oceanus, is a unique and elusive species purportedly dwelling in the expansive Alaskan region. Boasting remarkable adaptations for both land and ocean habitats, the Assinara Wolf has been an integral part of the culture and religious practices of aboriginal communities in the region since pre-historical times. However, its existence remains relatively unknown to the outside world, primarily due to the remoteness of the location, adding an air of mystery to the tales preserved by these local communities.
      This distinct wolf species is recognized for its exceptional swimming prowess, often observed hunting in coordinated packs along the Alaskan coastline. Particularly notable is their adeptness at navigating frozen ice patches during the winter months. This strategic behavior provides the Assinara Wolf with extended access to marine hunting grounds, making their presence occasionally visible to fishermen and cruise ship passengers.
      With a sleek and weather-resistant coat, the Assinara Wolf seamlessly blends into its surroundings. Its intelligence and cooperative hunting strategies have allowed it to thrive in the challenging Alaskan ecosystem. Locally, the species is colloquially referred to as the "Ass Wolf," derived from the aboriginal-inspired name "Assinara."
      The term "Assinara" is thought to derive its meaning from the indigenous language, symbolizing a connection to water and the northern regions. This interpretation adds depth to the cultural significance of the Assinara Wolf, aligning its name with the aquatic environments where it excels.

  • @jackielinde7568
    @jackielinde7568 4 місяці тому +297

    You've heard it here, Folks. Squirrels are apex predators, and your dog never stood a chance. Now, if we can just figure out where the squirrels are hiding their spaceships, armored suits, and cache of polished skulls.

    • @kitefan1
      @kitefan1 4 місяці тому +9

      Sometimes they are aliens, too. They run along my fence rail on the underside. There aren't any hawks or anything. Why?

    • @jackielinde7568
      @jackielinde7568 4 місяці тому +13

      @@kitefan1Mostly to avoid spy sats.

    • @TamarLitvot
      @TamarLitvot 4 місяці тому +7

      And do they always pair up with moose?

    • @lukehennessy3006
      @lukehennessy3006 4 місяці тому +2

      You gotta learn to Listen, Lou.

    • @lilolmecj
      @lilolmecj 4 місяці тому +4

      I know you are being facetious, but squirrels are opportunists, and only limited by their size. They are rodents after all. I saw one attack one of my full grown chickens , being territorial over the chicken food. They will eat chicks, given the opportunity.

  • @Wizard_Pepsi
    @Wizard_Pepsi 4 місяці тому +137

    Charles Darwin: (wipes away a tear) “It’s beautiful.”

    • @iamjustsaying4787
      @iamjustsaying4787 4 місяці тому +1

      @Wizard_Pepsi This is adaptation not evolution.

    • @Wizard_Pepsi
      @Wizard_Pepsi 4 місяці тому +13

      Darwin talked about how animals adapt to new environments and that these adaptation, given time, can describe the process of evolution.
      (if I got that wrong, please feel free to correct me)

    • @dwaynekeenum1916
      @dwaynekeenum1916 4 місяці тому +3

      @@iamjustsaying4787and ur religion doesn’t support either

    • @nickhurr69420
      @nickhurr69420 4 місяці тому

      ​@@iamjustsaying4787slave

    • @deanfirnatine7814
      @deanfirnatine7814 4 місяці тому +2

      @@iamjustsaying4787 "Well aaaaactually", lol.

  • @MarkasTZM
    @MarkasTZM 3 місяці тому +57

    An entire video without a single mention of how the wolves actually catch and eat an animal that can swim away.

    • @holisticallyHorrific
      @holisticallyHorrific Місяць тому +12

      usually aquatic mammals can be caught when they leave the sea to get onto land. sea otters do on occasion leave the waters for various reasons like warming up and to get away from marine predators. my guess is that during these haul outs, they get hunted by wolves. this is a similar case for other marine prey like seals as well
      anyways, this is an ecosystem video. i think you can achieve teaching people about it without necessarily having to mention hunting methods (it's definitely a plus to learn about how animals hunt, but it's not integral to ecosystem knowledge imo)

    • @brandonhoffman4712
      @brandonhoffman4712 6 днів тому

      Ive seen animals spot fish, jump in the air, and dive nose 1st to catch them.
      Fish are the dumbs. If you stand there long enough, and still enough, a trout will circle your feet. Ive been there, cant move to get the net, line is too far to attract the fish... grrr.

  • @6Nem6
    @6Nem6 4 місяці тому +92

    When he went “that’s an apex predator” I never even doubted it might have been the squirrel. Those little sh*ts are vicious. So that clarification was definitely needed 😆

  • @emanueldumea8217
    @emanueldumea8217 4 місяці тому +920

    It's sad that wolves got so much hate from humans and it was almost too late when we found out how important they are.

    • @pcka12
      @pcka12 4 місяці тому +21

      Something to do with the wolves representing a danger to human babies?

    • @zzipkis
      @zzipkis 4 місяці тому +195

      @@pcka12more like livestock I think

    • @ModMastersHub
      @ModMastersHub 4 місяці тому +15

      We weren't able to domesticate them into extinction enough! This is why we need to have MORE diverse doggos!

    • @Jgosse
      @Jgosse 4 місяці тому +51

      It was too late for some species. The newfoundland wolf was its own species, but regrettably, my ancestors wiped them out.

    • @pcka12
      @pcka12 4 місяці тому +4

      @@zzipkis both

  • @kyleohanian1437
    @kyleohanian1437 4 місяці тому +79

    Pleasant Island is the perfect name for a place with all terrain wolves lol

  • @ysgramorssoupspoon2261
    @ysgramorssoupspoon2261 4 місяці тому +123

    The way things are going wolves might join moose on orca's diet

    • @brandonhoffman4712
      @brandonhoffman4712 6 днів тому

      And humans. Oh wait shamoo was just serial killer right?
      Did you see the orcas swim with the person in norway. Shes lucky they werent hungry.

  • @antifableach
    @antifableach 4 місяці тому +195

    I'm going to share this video with my father. He's a big fan of wolves and deer.

  • @hueypautonoman
    @hueypautonoman 4 місяці тому +67

    I'm just imagining the first wolf to taste an otter and then going home to tell its friends and starting a whole trend.

    • @EJD339
      @EJD339 2 місяці тому

      That’s so fascinating too.

    • @st3vorocks290
      @st3vorocks290 Місяць тому +1

      Hipster Wolf was into eating otter before it was cool

    • @eavyeavy2864
      @eavyeavy2864 Місяць тому

      Buzzword

    • @brandonhoffman4712
      @brandonhoffman4712 6 днів тому +1

      Wolf: Hey guys, i found a new squeak toy! It sounds like rrrrrreeeeeeeeheheheheheeeeeeeee weeeee weeee weeee ehhhhh. It tastes like a mix of skunk and mink, ima call it a skink!
      The pack: does it spray the juice?
      Wolf: nope not at all!
      The pack: interesting
      The alpha: come fuckers, we are sea wolves now!

  • @intpintpintp
    @intpintpintp 4 місяці тому +132

    Hey, what about Dingoes on Fraser island? They also feed predominantly on sea creatures.

    • @gingermcgingin4106
      @gingermcgingin4106 4 місяці тому +22

      Dingos are a subspecies* of Canis familiaris, not lupus
      *There's actually some taxonomic controversy if dingos are a breed, subspecies, or full species, but seeing as they are direct descendants of the common dog, diverged only a few thousand years ago, are genetically distintic from & can readily interbreed with them, I'm going with subspecies.

    • @intpintpintp
      @intpintpintp 4 місяці тому +29

      @@gingermcgingin4106
      What I'm talking about is that these Alaskian wolves are not the only land-based predators sit atop a marine food web.

    • @UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana
      @UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana 4 місяці тому

      Dogs 🐕 are a subspecies of Canis Lupus, the wolf species.
      Dogs are much more closely related to wolves than the overwhelming majority of humans are to the hunter gatherer San people.
      @@gingermcgingin4106

    • @Sirri_Wolf
      @Sirri_Wolf 4 місяці тому +15

      Vancouver Island has a wolf population as well. They made a pretty cool documentary about them called "Island of the Sea Wolves". I haven't even heard of the sea wolves in Alaska before until my friend sent it to me. So I was very much shaking my head a bit when this guy said something along the lines of "research saying these are the only wolves that are known to eat sea otters." Haha

    • @jpe1
      @jpe1 4 місяці тому +5

      @@Sirri_Wolf do the wolves on Vancouver island eat sea otters? I was under the impression that they ate salmon and perhaps other fish, and shellfish, but not sea otters

  • @kizznethkizura6322
    @kizznethkizura6322 4 місяці тому +67

    oh... I thought this would be about the actual sea wolves on Vancouver Island and areas surrounding that subsist off fish and swim between the islands.

    • @dw620
      @dw620 4 місяці тому +6

      You're not the only one. ;p~
      (Also TIL young wolves are called "cubs". ; )

    • @micah1848
      @micah1848 4 місяці тому +11

      if I had a nickel for every time an island population of wolves started eating marine animals...

    • @gabrielford3473
      @gabrielford3473 3 місяці тому

      @@dw620 No, young wolves are pups.

    • @dw620
      @dw620 3 місяці тому

      @@gabrielford3473 And here's me thought a ;p~ and a ; ) were sufficient.
      Maybe I should've added a as well! ^^

    • @viticabo1524
      @viticabo1524 Місяць тому

      @@dw620 i dont understand

  • @MST406
    @MST406 4 місяці тому +71

    My heeler has successfully caught exactly one squirrel in her ongoing six-year hunt. Took her forever and was an overall pretty abysmal performance, if I'm being honest.

    • @B2WM
      @B2WM 4 місяці тому +13

      The only one my golden caught was a baby, probably not even out of the nest from the lack of fur and closed eyelids. That includes two adult squirrels already in a havahart cage on two separate occasions. One bit her through the bars and the other ran away when she flipped the trap. This dog also brought me a hawk leg with no injuries or sign of blood on her. My foxhound has caught dozens of moles and mice but no squirrels. The tree rats are just harder.

    • @TamarLitvot
      @TamarLitvot 4 місяці тому +12

      @@B2WM When I lived in St. Louis, my dog once caught an opossum. Having always failed at catching squirrels, he didn't know what to do. The opossum did the "play dead thing" and my dog dropped it and came back to us. I kept watching and quite soon the opossum go up and waddled away.

    • @Almugavar
      @Almugavar 4 місяці тому +5

      My terrier has caught exactly zero garbage trucks, thankfully.

    • @Zfb124
      @Zfb124 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@B2WMvegan rats are prey for birds more than mammals, they are far too quick

    • @brandonhoffman4712
      @brandonhoffman4712 6 днів тому

      Your supposed to train your dog to scare them to your side of the tree so you can daze it. Then the doggo gets to have fun.
      Hunting is a team sport! This is training for coon season
      Reminds me of the time my dads dog was sniffing @ a pipe. So my dad is like, whats going on here? He lifted and shook the pipe, a baby rabbit popped out. BAM! SQUEAK SQUEAK SQUEAK SQUEAK SILENCE. wagging tail
      Whos a good boy!

  • @tquist61
    @tquist61 4 місяці тому +75

    Fascinating video! As a side note, our German Shepard dog was successful in catching a few squirrels when they ventured too far from the safety of trees. That said, the vast majority of her efforts to catch squirrels were unsuccessful.

    • @TamarLitvot
      @TamarLitvot 4 місяці тому +11

      Many years ago, we got a dog and began taking him to a nearby park every weekend. He would run into the park and the squirrels would race away and up into the trees. He wasn't fast enough to catch them. Within a few weeks, the squirrels had figured this out and when he arrived in the park, they would calmly keep doing what they had been doing until he got close then coolly swarm up a tree. It was so disrespectful! (Squirrels are pretty damn smart).

    • @YeeSoest
      @YeeSoest 4 місяці тому +6

      I wish I could say that about my cat back in the day. Squirrel, Pheasant, Neighbor's Carp...😮

    • @alexturnbackthearmy1907
      @alexturnbackthearmy1907 4 місяці тому +4

      @@YeeSoest Cats do be like that. You let him outside for 5 minutes, and they come back with a whole bird. Unfortunately my dog is also like that, let it be unobserved for literally half of second and it already found and eaten a mole somehow (even on a leash).

    • @swordofallah1129
      @swordofallah1129 4 місяці тому +1

      I had a GS named Akbar he loved the squirrel hunt. We even had a caveman dance and noise just between me and him when we would go hunt squirrels.

  • @vcheekv
    @vcheekv 4 місяці тому +34

    One of my favorite examples of evolution. They likely prefer the fattier meat of the otters especially in such a cold climate. Anyone who's eaten deer knows it's very lean meat. They're also cross breeding with coyotes. There's a great documentary about it. I think it's called Meet The Coywolf. They've learned how to hunt and eat salmon and avoid parasites by watching bears (in Canada if I'm recalling correctly.) They're even developing webbed feet. I friggin love them 💕

    • @mainsidequest5203
      @mainsidequest5203 28 днів тому

      Developing ? Some wolves already have webbed feet. I have Czechoslovakian wolfdog and even is feet are webbed from is Euroasian wolf side of the family.

  • @mattwilliams4222
    @mattwilliams4222 4 місяці тому +84

    Wolves are like "Welcome back, otter"
    I'm so sorry

    • @trevinbeattie4888
      @trevinbeattie4888 4 місяці тому +15

      You’re also so old.
      And so am I for getting that reference. 😅

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 4 місяці тому +9

      @@trevinbeattie4888 Hah! I get that reference.
      Hello fellow oldsters.

    • @KOKO-uu7yd
      @KOKO-uu7yd 4 місяці тому +5

      ​​@@trevinbeattie4888 Me too! 😂

    • @TamarLitvot
      @TamarLitvot 4 місяці тому +3

      @@trevinbeattie4888 me too.

    • @karma_monkey
      @karma_monkey 4 місяці тому +3

      Wolves eat 'em a lot, now they live in this spot, welcome back.

  • @ericfern8869
    @ericfern8869 4 місяці тому +52

    I have seen wolves and sea otters the same day in Nootka Sound on multiple occasions, so their ranges obviously overlap there too. Been like that for years. What a howler, SciShow!

    • @Searogue2000
      @Searogue2000 4 місяці тому +2

      I saw the same thing on several visits to the W. coast of Vancouver Island from 1995 - 2008

    • @ericfern8869
      @ericfern8869 4 місяці тому

      I watched this video a couple times, and think the science is weak, the writing is poor, and the jokes are so incredibly lame. 7.8 million subscribers are not being well-served, but they lap up this sort of tripe.@@Searogue2000

  • @johnmillerpere_grin6371
    @johnmillerpere_grin6371 4 місяці тому +25

    Now this implies that wolves may evolve into a new type of sea mammal after the porpoises! I wonder what they'd look like.

    • @pompe221
      @pompe221 4 місяці тому +2

      Yeah, there's a few ways they could go -- large upper bodies and strong tails but no hind limbs like whales and porpoises, or lose the tails and turn the hind limbs into flippers (like pinnipeds) or say "screw it, I want to be a sea-wolf-giraffe" and turn into mammalian plesiosaurs.

  • @BertoxolusThePuzzled
    @BertoxolusThePuzzled 4 місяці тому +74

    But... How are they CATCHING them? Do the otters just float there as a wolf slowly doggy paddles up to them from the shore way off in the distance?
    I mean they are very fast and agile swimmers and can dive very deep, if anything I'd think a determined otter could easily drown a wolf it caught out in the open water...

    • @pasta-and-heroin
      @pasta-and-heroin 4 місяці тому

      90% of ocean drownings among children are committed by determined - and very hungry - otters, this is due to the effort involved in drowning a fully-grown wolf

    • @caracatoacacepe
      @caracatoacacepe 4 місяці тому +6

      Came looking for answers, left with more questions. Disappointing.

    • @a-goblin
      @a-goblin 4 місяці тому +40

      wolves attack while the sea otters are on land (typically for resting or cleaning) or in very shallow water. of course not every hunt goes well.

    • @alexhooijschuur5131
      @alexhooijschuur5131 4 місяці тому +13

      Yeah felt this is an important question.
      I wasnt able to find a direct answer, but from what I gather wolves are surprisingly strong swimmers, which isn't well explained in this video. Sea Otters spend almost all of their time in the water, unlike other Otters, but nonetheless, they spend some time on shore, which doubtlessly is the prime oppertunity. Even without that theres the fact that Wolves are pack hunters, it's likely that they could corral Otters either into other Wolves or onto the shore for easier hunting. Wolves also are predisposed to target already weakened or young prey, so it stands to reason that this behavior is also the case when they hunt Sea Otters-- this is helped by he fact that Sea Otters don't learn to swim on their own until they are two months old-- until then they spend most of their life balanced on top their mothers.

    • @hueypautonoman
      @hueypautonoman 4 місяці тому +23

      Wolves are pretty smart and so are otters, so it's probably like a cartoon with elaborate traps, great escapes, more traps, etc.

  • @wintersnowcloud
    @wintersnowcloud 4 місяці тому +9

    My favorite line of the video, "when two Apex predators meet... there becomes one Apex predator..."

  • @jakobraahauge7299
    @jakobraahauge7299 4 місяці тому +54

    I think that we underestimate the consequences of culture in groups as conscious as both sea otters and wolves - life at such levels of comprehension and mere slaves of evolution in the biological sense, but also consequences of this wonderfully fluent thing called learning and being social.
    To a sociologist - this looks like whole lot like social adaptation in the "strict" sense the word "culture". "
    Lots of love from a very old fan, from a very old place, having followed you for a very long time - and being so happy to see you looking very fine ❤🤗 what a long and odd trip it's been!
    Happy to see you back here on yt!
    Lots of love from Denmark and may this new year be as good to you, as it is seeing you back here 🌿

  • @christigmc
    @christigmc 4 місяці тому +16

    I heard once in a nature documentary that wolves are extremely adaptable. I guess this just proves it more.

    • @brandonhoffman4712
      @brandonhoffman4712 6 днів тому

      Do you think they are adaptable enough to befriend the smartest animal on earth and become so lazy they enjoy belly rubs and give you kisses like a long lost love?
      Then flip the script and evolve into an alaskan klee kai (miniature husky) and develop crowds of human around it to look @ it, pet it, and shower it with affection. (My moms dog) Shes even vocal like a husky, but in the cutest way!

  • @kevinneutzling8267
    @kevinneutzling8267 4 місяці тому +11

    There was also once a pride of lions that got trapped in some flooded wetlands. They adapted to eating Cape buffalo since it was one of the only food sources available and got huge.

  • @TristanBehrens
    @TristanBehrens 4 місяці тому +14

    There's a netflix documentary on a similar case happening on Vancouver island.

  • @markanderson3870
    @markanderson3870 4 місяці тому +11

    Interesting, but kind of disappointing. I was hoping to hear a story of wolves swimming into the open sea to catch otters, developing webbed paws, catching fish...

    • @neutral_positron
      @neutral_positron 29 днів тому

      Yup

    • @mainsidequest5203
      @mainsidequest5203 28 днів тому +1

      Wolves already have webbed feet, are super good swimmers and catch fish. But no land creature will swim into open sea and will be able to catch fish.

  • @justicar347
    @justicar347 4 місяці тому +26

    A little bit of irony is that I often describe giant river otters as aquatic wolves.

    • @cg0499
      @cg0499 4 місяці тому

      The tamil name for otter literally translates to water dog

  • @indyreno2933
    @indyreno2933 4 місяці тому +65

    There's already a dog species known as the sea wolf, which would be Canis crassodon, which is native to Western Canada, the Sea Wolf (Canis crassodon) is most closely related to both the Eastern Wolf (Canis lycaon) and the Red Wolf (Canis rufus) and has three confirmed subspecies: the Columbian Wolf (Canis crassodon columbianus), the Vancouver Island Wolf (Canis crassodon crassodon), and the Archipelago Wolf (Canis crassodon ligoni).

    • @mildlymarvelous
      @mildlymarvelous 4 місяці тому +10

      Canis lupus crassodon is a SUBspecies of the Grey Wolf, not its own species.

    • @Vexinsight
      @Vexinsight 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@mildlymarvelous This guy will still treat you as the same species, and in case he answers you maybe he will repeat the comment again or just restate what he has already said, even if it is obviously wrong.

    • @mildlymarvelous
      @mildlymarvelous 4 місяці тому

      @@Vexinsight That’s pretty rude of you to assume. Just because they haven’t responded doesn’t mean they would behave like that. Maybe they have notifications disabled.

    • @tehkaihong5328
      @tehkaihong5328 3 місяці тому

      ​@@mildlymarvelous they behave like that across many UA-cam comment sections, always on quirky videos with a species of mammal.

    • @mildlymarvelous
      @mildlymarvelous 3 місяці тому +1

      @@tehkaihong5328 Ahhh I see

  • @mr.figgles9482
    @mr.figgles9482 4 місяці тому +6

    It just occurred to me (maybe not for the first time) that wolves are very similar to early pre-humans. They hunt in packs, using strategy and stamina to drain their prey rather than killing it outright.
    While they establish territories, they sometimes travel, pushed out by competing tribes, and are able to quickly adapt to changes in their environments and prey.
    It makes me think that it makes a lot of sense how dogs developed. Wolves had a naturally very similar lifestyle to ourselves, from hunting style to social interaction.
    Really makes me wonder what it would’ve been like to see a pack of wolves back then, if it would’ve really been much different to seeing a different tribe of humans.

    • @Manj_J
      @Manj_J 4 місяці тому

      I was thinking the same thing!

  • @dishevelleddev
    @dishevelleddev 4 місяці тому +5

    Don't be fooled by sea otters. They're mustelids. Every species of mustelids is a carnivore and every one is some version of crazy.

  • @lovelylipbonesouwwwwwwwolv2198
    @lovelylipbonesouwwwwwwwolv2198 4 місяці тому +16

    This brings me so much joy to hear that sea wolves are thriving! ❤🐺🐺🐺

  • @ramonarjona4928
    @ramonarjona4928 4 місяці тому +17

    Wolves, bringing balance to the Force. I mean forest.

    • @kitefan1
      @kitefan1 4 місяці тому +3

      I heard that too, but I wasn't sure I heard correctly.

  • @Nightriser271828
    @Nightriser271828 4 місяці тому +5

    My son was obsessed with all kinds of sea creatures for a moment, and for a segment of that time, it was sea wolf this, sea wolf that. Cool to see that it's a real thing.

  • @zhengmingfan2635
    @zhengmingfan2635 3 місяці тому +1

    Wolf is a versatile and adaptive species. They can thrive in any type of biome which includes desert, grassland, mountain, Taiga forest and tundra. Living off-coast and rely on seafood is a very unique adaptation to the environment.

  • @jer103
    @jer103 4 місяці тому +7

    This reminds me of Charles Darwin going to an island to observe Natural selection.
    That the dynamics between predators and prey directly effect the Natural selection on an island.

  • @JalenJaguar
    @JalenJaguar 4 місяці тому +24

    Yes, I am extremely intrigued by the maritime wolves, but also just happy to see Hank with his hair again 💚💛🧡❤️🩷

  • @skeepodoop5197
    @skeepodoop5197 4 місяці тому +8

    Haida people: "Hey, I've seen this before it's a classic!"
    Everyone else: "What do you mean, this only happened recently?"

  • @SirMethos
    @SirMethos 4 місяці тому +2

    You could say they found an otter food source ^^
    ... I'll see myself out.

  • @aamirrazak3467
    @aamirrazak3467 4 місяці тому +12

    Interesting. I guess when you add one apex predator to another, you end up 1 apex predator. Good to know the otters won’t go extinct, and Good to see you back Hank!

  • @gunnar699
    @gunnar699 4 місяці тому +5

    Wolves has always eaten otters. I remember tracking wolfs over 10 years ago and back then they usually walked onto the frozen ice and walked where the otters had been earlier. Wolves eat them because they are hungry and food is food. Pretty simple....

    • @brandonhoffman4712
      @brandonhoffman4712 6 днів тому

      I had wolves track me in yellowstone. They kept to 100+ yards. Despite my howls of brotherhood!

  • @ladysilverwynde
    @ladysilverwynde 4 місяці тому +5

    Looks like these wolves are fans of surf and turf. 😂
    I'll show myself out.

  • @nicklanders5178
    @nicklanders5178 4 місяці тому +6

    Cetacean/pinniped lore

  • @DoggosAndJiuJitsu
    @DoggosAndJiuJitsu 4 місяці тому +2

    My huskies wouldn’t survive an afternoon outside.

  • @njlkerins
    @njlkerins 4 місяці тому +10

    Excellent episode, as always. Good to se you back.

  • @ReiC-B
    @ReiC-B 4 місяці тому +9

    HEY HANK AND SCISHOW CREW!! Super excited for the stuff I got from your store to come in March, hoping you can see this. I love your content and merch.

  • @FuhrerHeisen
    @FuhrerHeisen 3 місяці тому +1

    When he mentioned the wolves swam out to the island, my instant thought was balto 2

  • @caspenbee
    @caspenbee 4 місяці тому +20

    I wonder if the local Alaskan Native nations know whether this relationship existed in the past? If anyone would, it'd be them. Hopefully researchers think to ask (or better yet, some researchers come from the local nation)!

  • @vickieviera3504
    @vickieviera3504 4 місяці тому +3

    So nice to see you Hank.

  • @kleinepfoten
    @kleinepfoten 4 місяці тому +3

    Hank I get so excited about how excited you get about stuff

  • @jaimel88
    @jaimel88 4 місяці тому +1

    You forgot to mention that it was overhunting sea otters for their fur in that area that led to the extinction of the Steller's sea cow (it wasn't just human hunting).
    No sea otters --> explosion of sea urchins --> kelp wiped out --> starvation leading to the eventual inability to sustain ANY population of Steller's sea cows.
    Humans still think about "food chains," when they really should be thinking about energy webs. Any disturbance at one node leads to collapse in some other.

  • @chaosopher23
    @chaosopher23 4 місяці тому +1

    One difference between wolves and dogs is that wolves will taste their food with a couple of chews before gulping it down. A dog will just hoover up a hunk of meat half their size in half a bite.

  • @weirdredpanda
    @weirdredpanda 4 місяці тому +3

    When Hank asked who else is also thriving, I expected him to say, "Me!" Judging by his hair, this video was made a little while ago, but it's good to know that he is also thriving.

  • @ThomasSchannel
    @ThomasSchannel 4 місяці тому +6

    I'm Glad sci show exists , nice comfy bite sized science lesson :)

  • @johnferradino
    @johnferradino 4 місяці тому +1

    Omg! How cute are those sea otters rubbing their little faces!

  • @myleswelnetz6700
    @myleswelnetz6700 Місяць тому +1

    They’ve also taken to the water on Vancouver Island. There’s a whole mini-series on Netflix about it.

  • @kitefan1
    @kitefan1 4 місяці тому +6

    Thanks for that! I was thinking I would ask about coydogs (aka coywolves) but you sort of did that in 2019.

  • @graham1034
    @graham1034 4 місяці тому +26

    This video confuses me. Vancouver Island, off the coast of British Columbia, famously has "sea wolves" that have a large percentage of their diet coming from tidal areas and have been observed doing so for decades. There are also a lot of otters in the same area.
    EDIT: According to Wikipedia, the subspecies is the Vancouver Coastal Sea Wolf: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vancouver_Coastal_Sea_wolf
    They range up into Alaska, so potentially this video is talking about them? I wonder if the real news is just that they're spreading into a new area and it was just misinterpreted here.

    • @dmacpher
      @dmacpher 4 місяці тому

      Yeah - one even lives alone on a tiny island off Victoria, long story about it being lonely.

    • @graham1034
      @graham1034 4 місяці тому +1

      @@dmacpher en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takaya:_Lone_Wolf
      Apparently the wolf was shot by a hunter not long after the documentary came out

    • @dmacpher
      @dmacpher 4 місяці тому +1

      @@graham1034 a ffs, that’s brutal.

    • @mildlymarvelous
      @mildlymarvelous 4 місяці тому +2

      Subspecies, not species

    • @graham1034
      @graham1034 4 місяці тому +2

      @@mildlymarvelous thanks for the correction, I've updated my comment

  • @tmaziriri
    @tmaziriri 9 днів тому

    Sharknado screenwriters: "Sea wolves??? Take notes! Take notes!"

  • @capt.bart.roberts4975
    @capt.bart.roberts4975 4 місяці тому +2

    As my friend Terry used to say, "Every dog, no matter how small, has a wolf within them!"

  • @geoffzuo9831
    @geoffzuo9831 4 місяці тому +24

    Orca probably feel great about this new food source, and sea lions are probably relieved about that. Also tigers would like to have a word about the whole apex predator thing.

    • @glebeldionrayparcon1008
      @glebeldionrayparcon1008 4 місяці тому +2

      Wolves are as much of an apex predator or top order carnivore, like how the painted dogs and lions despite the size difference.

    • @geoffzuo9831
      @geoffzuo9831 4 місяці тому

      @@glebeldionrayparcon1008 Wolves are top order carnivores, like painted wolves, lions, and tigers. There's a fine but not inconsequential difference between the two terms that stems from the fact that apex is a giant buzzword used to describe the biggest and meanest predators. From its repeated usage, apex predator more refers to animals that, unless sick, wounded, or otherwise weakened, have no natural competitors that will regularly engage in intraguild predation or superpredation. If you're familiar with monster hunter, Unnatural history channel made a video on Anjanath where he briefly discusses the difference between the two terms. Wolves are both apex predators and top order carnivores in most of their range, but not in the Near East or India, where tigers will frequently reduce packs to single individuals or eliminate them completely. There, they are still top order carnivores, but not "apex predators" per say. Of course, this is mostly semantics.

    • @SgtSupaman
      @SgtSupaman 4 місяці тому +9

      The term 'apex predator' is a regional thing. Many different kinds of animals can be apex predators, as long as they are at the top of the food chain in their current ecosystem. As was pointed out in the video, these otters used to be the apex predators, until the wolves moved in.

    • @Artuor.Morgan
      @Artuor.Morgan 3 місяці тому

      Yeah, the largest tiger subspecies in the world that depresses populations of tiny east siberian wolves, So impressive. Let's just ignore how Canadian north american wolves match large brown bears for apex status.

    • @gigachad1643
      @gigachad1643 3 місяці тому

      The wolves that are in the part of Russia Far East that tigers inhabit, are the same size (sometimes even smaller) than African wild dogs. That’s like saying tigers are not apex predators because Sumatran tigers are dominated by saltwater crocodiles in Southeast Asia. Big cat fans never fail to show how delusional and misinformed people can be.

  • @liriodendronlasianthus
    @liriodendronlasianthus 4 місяці тому +3

    Wolves and lions have started treading water to hunt, it's actually pretty awesome

  • @macekreislahomes1690
    @macekreislahomes1690 4 місяці тому +1

    So, the Wolves are waiting for the deer to get back to 100% population, and help another ecosystem simultaneously. Good on them.

  • @themrrandomname1251
    @themrrandomname1251 4 місяці тому +1

    really gives a new meaning to wolfpack

  • @stevejohnson3357
    @stevejohnson3357 4 місяці тому +3

    Similar on islands off the BC central coast.

  • @bluestormpony
    @bluestormpony 4 місяці тому +3

    things that make me wish i could time travel hundreds of years in to the future to see if they evolve in to something

  • @h.j.bisting640
    @h.j.bisting640 2 місяці тому +1

    Now I'm gonna add that to my medieval fantasy ecology near a town called Otterhaul.

  • @rabies6418
    @rabies6418 4 місяці тому +1

    It’s kind of amazing to think this is how a new organism evolves

  • @nottelling7438
    @nottelling7438 4 місяці тому +3

    The squirrel is also related to all known apex predators, but not very closely.

  • @Aragorn7884
    @Aragorn7884 4 місяці тому +4

    *"Let them fight..."* 😅

  • @ROLtheWolf
    @ROLtheWolf 4 місяці тому +2

    Sea otters squeak when they are killed, which is esthetically very pleasing to the wolf ear. Really enhances the kill-meal!

  • @thenaiam
    @thenaiam 4 місяці тому +1

    Whoever chose that sea otter clips knew what they were doing. Those otters are sooo cuuute! 😍

  • @TheGahta
    @TheGahta 4 місяці тому +7

    "we have no otter choice man" 😂

  • @IIIC3YLOCO
    @IIIC3YLOCO 4 місяці тому +12

    The otters are like wolves of the sea. This is very interesting. I wonder if they’ll be a new species of wolves or maybe a new kind of aquatic mammal due to the pressure from the wolves on the otters. 😊

    • @TamarLitvot
      @TamarLitvot 4 місяці тому +2

      Maybe otters developing so they need very little time on land.

    • @IIIC3YLOCO
      @IIIC3YLOCO 4 місяці тому +1

      @@TamarLitvot yeah that’s what I was thinking also. It’s so cool due to the chance to witness the evolutionary pressure come into play. This is so interesting.

  • @ericstorm4613
    @ericstorm4613 4 місяці тому +1

    It's great to see Hank again!

  • @uncletiggermclaren7592
    @uncletiggermclaren7592 4 місяці тому

    There used to be feral pigs on three of the sizable off-shore islands around North Island New Zealand. They spent a lot of their time going along the water side and beaches and they totally changed the ecology in dozens of ways.
    One of the things that happened was many of the endemic insects were wiped out and replaced with European sea-lice/sand hoppers. Every time you walked on the beach, you would be astounded at the swarm of hoppers.
    When the government eradicated the pigs on each island, the European sand hoppers died back so far than you mostly can't find them unless you dig around in the sea-wrack.

  • @trinacogitating4532
    @trinacogitating4532 4 місяці тому +5

    It would be fascinating to know what old stories the Alaskan natives might have; on wolf/otter interaction.

  • @scrotiemcboogerballs1981
    @scrotiemcboogerballs1981 4 місяці тому +8

    Great to see you buddy been wondering how everything was going with you guys praying you all only have to do training but I’ll leave that there great video awesome thanks for sharing thank you to all service members

  • @zackerybartlett8050
    @zackerybartlett8050 4 місяці тому +1

    You're looking good my brother! We love you!

  • @thalmoragent9344
    @thalmoragent9344 4 місяці тому +1

    Hey, Wolves are an awesome apex predator. And they're a clever bunch for sure.

  • @terramater
    @terramater 4 місяці тому +11

    Wolves are so awesome, and they're so brave! Our crew got on camera a pack of wolves simply trying to get a bite of a brown bear hunt in Scandinavian. As expected, it started an intense battle of giants.

  • @randoir1863
    @randoir1863 4 місяці тому +5

    This has happened along BC coasts as well . As in British Columbia, Canada!!

  • @stephenmartinez1
    @stephenmartinez1 4 місяці тому +1

    I love the cute wolves. They are such beautiful critters.

  • @wixi105
    @wixi105 4 місяці тому

    5:00 Wolf looks pretty proud of himself for murking some otters.

  • @TIGERZY2K
    @TIGERZY2K 3 місяці тому +5

    Why doesn't USA export 30% of their Alaskan white wolves to Britain? By doing this USA can not only control disappearance of otters in near future but also they can help Britain in controlling the population explosion of different species of herbivores in the Scottish Highlands.

  • @Anon-zv3my
    @Anon-zv3my 4 місяці тому +5

    I so want to see Apex Predator Squirrels. I would totally watch the heck out of that B movie. 😍

    • @TamarLitvot
      @TamarLitvot 4 місяці тому

      They may not the apex predator in terms of eating birds, but they can certainly outsmart humans in stealing all the seed from the bird feeders. If you enjoy squirrels, watch Mark Rober's videos on his backyard squirrel obstacle courses. They are absolutely hilarious.

  • @ajwinberg
    @ajwinberg 4 місяці тому

    Great video. Wolves are my favorite animals. I love hearing new facts about them that I didn't t know before. I hope to hear more fun facts in the future.

  • @CanadianFitted
    @CanadianFitted 4 місяці тому +1

    Historically there were many “Island Wolves”. I love the comeback 👍

  • @Benni777
    @Benni777 4 місяці тому +4

    The fact that wolves are now hunting on an island called “Pleasant Island” doesn’t sound like a “pleasant island.” It sounds like another version of the Hunger Games, only instead of ppl killing each other, it’s wolves killing otters. Which, honestly would be harder to watch bc I’d TOTALLY be on the Otters’ team. Like, how could u eat something that’s just so gosh darn cute!?!? 😍😫

    • @twonumber22
      @twonumber22 4 місяці тому

      it's interesting that a wolf pup is pretty darn cute but at some point they look like demon creatures

  • @ozwalled2007
    @ozwalled2007 4 місяці тому +3

    I thought I'd read that there was even a genetic split for these "sea wolves" in that they have some distinctions for other wolf populations? Is there any truth to that?

    • @twonumber22
      @twonumber22 4 місяці тому

      I believe that's true for brown bears.

  • @M32_722
    @M32_722 4 місяці тому

    Good to see you back!

  • @Clinicallyconfused9
    @Clinicallyconfused9 4 місяці тому +2

    Picked the wrong spawn point but still did pretty well.

  • @giladpellaeon1691
    @giladpellaeon1691 4 місяці тому

    Now picturing an apex predator squirrel, my day has improved.

  • @brettwood1351
    @brettwood1351 4 місяці тому +1

    Now, let's introduce the Wolves to giant river otters, and see who ends up the Apex predator.

  • @Kastley
    @Kastley 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for adding sources!! No one does this anymore so its hard to believe any story unless there is a source!

  • @royrogers3133
    @royrogers3133 4 місяці тому +1

    This is probably how seals evolved.