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КОМЕНТАРІ • 679

  • @jendom0112
    @jendom0112 2 роки тому +62

    Can we show some love for James Shaw Jr due to his fast action selfless bravery? We need more people like this in our world! Thank you James!

  • @erios839
    @erios839 2 роки тому +190

    The way I see it Travis was clearly insane and the biggest criminal here was his father. This is a terrible tragedy...all the way around. Also what a true and very brave hero this story has.

    • @bradford_shaun_murray
      @bradford_shaun_murray 2 роки тому +2

      1:23 Mrs. Doubtfire horror film?

    • @earlofwickshire5416
      @earlofwickshire5416 2 роки тому +6

      Sometimes waffles can taste really good but make us do bad things

    • @skotmatthews8940
      @skotmatthews8940 11 місяців тому

      Oh he was obviously insane. I believe he does deserve to be in prison though because he knew of his diagnosis and the dangers that came with it and chose to stop his medication- tho his father is the true cause of this tragedy

    • @1833-j4g
      @1833-j4g Місяць тому +1

      @skotmatthews8940
      Prison is no place for someone who’s insane

  • @tommyturner6923
    @tommyturner6923 2 роки тому +157

    That last line, about being trapped in his own mind anyway, was pretty deep. Another great vid from Dr Grande.

    • @mustertherohirrim7315
      @mustertherohirrim7315 2 роки тому +2

      Are we all not 'trapped' inside our own mind.?

    • @astridjaye6224
      @astridjaye6224 2 роки тому +4

      Some much more than others and it’s torture.

    • @scarlettphoenix7024
      @scarlettphoenix7024 2 роки тому

      @@mustertherohirrim7315 “Trap” has negative connotations. We are also free in our own minds; unless we are SMI.

    • @mustertherohirrim7315
      @mustertherohirrim7315 2 роки тому +1

      @@scarlettphoenix7024 how about encased.

    • @whitedragoness23
      @whitedragoness23 Рік тому

      Trapped is the best word here, he can’t get out of his delusions and hopefully the prison will be treating him. Imagine him waking up from a nightmare to being stabilized and his actions of killing.

  • @kdnick8584
    @kdnick8584 2 роки тому +217

    James Shaw is a hero. The forgotten man in this tragedy.

    • @cremdilly7176
      @cremdilly7176 2 роки тому +8

      Nah the tragedy is the dead people not some lack of fame or fortune

    • @r99716
      @r99716 2 роки тому +14

      @@cremdilly7176 i assume he meant "in this tragedy" not "is"

    • @bananainacup
      @bananainacup 2 роки тому +4

      @@cremdilly7176 context clues homie

    • @robinmiller5256
      @robinmiller5256 2 роки тому +10

      He will never be forgotten with me! James Shaw should be what all men strive for!

    • @dougrogan379
      @dougrogan379 2 роки тому +4

      I just imagined the cops shouting his gotta gun we he grabbed the rifel and blasting him. You know coz he blck

  • @helpyourcattodrive
    @helpyourcattodrive 2 роки тому +60

    James is a true hero and deserves lifelong recognition and accolades for his courageous actions that day.

  • @annal7364
    @annal7364 2 роки тому +14

    Travis’s parents had every opportunity to help him, yet they plowed through all the red lights instead and people got hurt. Thanks for sharing your knowledge on schizophrenia, Dr. G.
    In HS, I watched someone go through the onset. He developed anorexia nervosa and then was dx with schizophrenia. His illness completely changed him. Very sad.

  • @QuantumSorceress
    @QuantumSorceress 2 роки тому +38

    Why is the state always so resistant to someone being deemed insane? Even when it's obvious, like in times like this, when that was the case? I don't get the government's position on this, because it's like they refuse to acknowledge that the defendant was insane and see it as "letting someone off easy", when the person needed medical help.

    • @silverdweller2809
      @silverdweller2809 2 роки тому +9

      Yes, it seems simple minded and cruel to me. If they would just acknowledge that some people are indeed that mentally ill I would have a rosier view of prosecutors in general.
      I will say that in lesser crimes sometimes they will acknowledge and apply this but it should apply here as well.

    • @YTStoleMyUsername
      @YTStoleMyUsername 2 роки тому +3

      There are 3 sides to a story, the victim, the perpetrators/suspect and truth. Prosecutors and Defense attorneys don't care so much about the "truth," they just want their client to win. It's up to the juries to examine the evidence available and make a decision based on the facts. In this case, I think they were definitely swayed by all the emotional testimony of the victims and witnesses. It certainly was a heartbreaking trial to watch. However, that should've still been overlooked to see just how obviously mentally ill this man was and that he was not in his right mind. I don't know how anyone couldn't see that. Mental illness is still such a stigma though, and they probably just saw him as a murderer regardless. He should've gotten help years ago, and he deserves help now despite his actions. Now as Dr. Grande said, he'll just be trapped in a prison of his mind, while trapped in a physical prison cell as well. Doesn't seem very humane but the US justice system doesn't usually care about that. Sad story all around.

    • @YTStoleMyUsername
      @YTStoleMyUsername 2 роки тому

      BTW I recommend the channel "Dave's Lemonade" that covers the backstory and parts of the trial in this case, it's a well done video that shows the whole story in a nice neat storyline.

    • @silverdweller2809
      @silverdweller2809 2 роки тому +1

      @@YTStoleMyUsername Couldn't agree more.

    • @zuglymonster
      @zuglymonster 2 роки тому +3

      That's exactly what it is. They look at it as someone "getting off" if they aren't put into a horrible prison in bad conditions.
      People even think that PRISON is too nice (interestingly most of these people have never set foot in a jail, prison or mental health facility)

  • @lisabenson
    @lisabenson 2 роки тому +5

    Dr. Grande makes an excellent point that the "not guilty by reason of insanity" defense is useless if not applicable to a case of clear psychosis.

  • @DomoArigatoRobot0
    @DomoArigatoRobot0 2 роки тому +65

    Many Americans need a primer or update on "not guilty-reason: insanity" and be ready to apply this when another Travis Reinking shows up in front of their jury. Not only is Travis imprisoned in his mind, but his body would be imprisoned in a secure mental health facility.

    • @0ne01
      @0ne01 2 роки тому +25

      That would require the population to actually learn about mental health issues, and for cops and prosecutors to actually do their jobs with competence.
      They probably have Travis in isolation which is really sad.

    • @petertreid
      @petertreid 2 роки тому +8

      'Imprisoned in his mind' is a handy rhetorical device to employ in a UA-cam video, but in the push-and-pull of reality he was found guilty by a jury of his peers. He had the faculties to discern right from wrong, to organise (before and after committing the act), and to take evasive actions after the fact. Yes, to a large extent he was let down by his immediate family and by society at large, but is no different to any mass-murdering shooter who wants to amass a legacy of some kind. Not everybody who suffers from paranoid schizophrenia or other such delusional afflictions opts to carry out such heinous acts. Yes I have sympathy for him and believe he should receive appropriate care and attention (and should have received it beforehand) but the jury had no option but to find him guilty.

    • @notyourdamnbusiness8795
      @notyourdamnbusiness8795 2 роки тому +3

      that decision wasnt up to the jury. i get what you are saying, but the jury only had 2 options. guilty or not guilty.....and at the end of the day the dude killed 4 people.
      so if they had said: not guilty!!......dude would have walked.

    • @tarawalsh-arpaia3928
      @tarawalsh-arpaia3928 2 роки тому +8

      ​@@petertreid As I commented, I am a lawyer (UK) and you have explained this issue very succinctly and accurately. Alas, it is a hard area of law and psychiatry, which have worked together to design the current laws, which are identical in the UK. I believe the origin is the Woolmington case from the 1920s. Some cases are heartbreaking such as the Wuornos case where it was known that she suffered from PTSD. But PTSD is not psychosis. It takes a psychosis or psychotic break from reality, as you seem amply aware, to make the insanity defense. If you have ever seen a person in such a state, the difference is abundantly obvious.

    • @laura121684
      @laura121684 2 роки тому +2

      @@notyourdamnbusiness8795 You're right. I think the jury was doing their best with what they had in front of them. The people to blame are the prosecutors. They could've pled him out or something. I don't think the jury was at fault here, they had limited choices to make, and they made the one that they deemed best.

  • @nishottara777
    @nishottara777 2 роки тому +125

    This is where denial by family members leads....tragic all around. In the last neighborhood I lived in, just outside of city limits there was a man with similar traits who also smoked meth or crack and was involved with selling guns and Lord knows what else. He would shoot guns off outside in the evening after getting high and yell at both real and imaginary people. He would frequently call the police to report non existent children, according to them, that were running through his yard. He had a laser sight pointed into my house one evening. I was told by the police that his family would need to commit him. They haven't maybe because he has small children and they appeared to be afraid of him. Very risky situation-I'm grateful I was able to move out but this is just one person in one neighborhood; I'm sure this is far more common than people want to believe unfortunately

    • @angelachouinard4581
      @angelachouinard4581 2 роки тому +23

      Cherie, very glad you could move. I agree with you, I think this is more common than people want to believe. Our mental health system has more holes tha a Swiss cheese.

    • @seymourclearly
      @seymourclearly 2 роки тому +10

      A disaster waiting to happen

    • @LukeSumIpsePatremTe
      @LukeSumIpsePatremTe 2 роки тому +3

      Wouldn't shooting him count as a self-defence?

    • @duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa
      @duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa 2 роки тому +5

      @@LukeSumIpsePatremTe proving you shot someone in self defence in court can be very tricky, but I know for sure shooting someone because they have a red lasersight pointed into your house would be murder/assault. There has to be a very clear and present danger and reasonably think your life was going to be taken; if you can't prove that beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law, or if you shoot them while they're running away or shoot them more times than what the jury thinks is necessary to take the assailant down, then it's murder/assault, not self defence. There's a whole lot of technicalities involved in the laws surrounding this issue, and some things that the layman would consider self defence are classified as murder, assault, attempted assault, etc.

    • @1lmp1
      @1lmp1 2 роки тому +9

      The families are in denial often because the mental health treatment in the USA is in such a poor state. Many families do not even understand the mental health basics, often it could and should be, schools etc institutions to alarm families and healthcare institutions about potential need for mental health interventions. Many countries have that back up system being able to weed out and intervene these advanced mental health issues preventing the final events in this case.

  • @gfx2943
    @gfx2943 2 роки тому +21

    So glad that the one guy stood up to him and got the rifle out of his hands. Even if it was a reaction under duress.

  • @ellenmayo
    @ellenmayo 2 роки тому +97

    One of the few times I feel bad for the perpetrator. He's not going to get proper help in US prison. My thoughts are with everyone impacted.

    • @reannabaker4
      @reannabaker4 2 роки тому +14

      I agree. It makes no sense at all to put him into the prison system where he'll be targeted for abuse. He should be confined to a mental institution. What he did was terribly wrong but he is a victim of his mental illness. His delusions were very real to him and he lived in fear. I'm disappointed with his father for giving him a firearm and not trying to get his son the mental health care that could have saved many lives and much suffering. This is a sad case.

    • @De_behr
      @De_behr 2 роки тому +1

      Dude will get ass fucked and gutted? What more justice could you need?

    • @MrAerohank
      @MrAerohank 2 роки тому +7

      @@De_behr How can you watch a video of Dr. Grande and still walk away this uneducated?

    • @SorrowAvenue
      @SorrowAvenue 2 роки тому +12

      This conviction made absolutely no sense. This case is proof that the American „justice“ system does not work and that prosecutors need to be educated on behavioural health matters.

    • @hazelangus
      @hazelangus 2 роки тому +1

      @@De_behr That's not justice.

  • @lesleyshipley8032
    @lesleyshipley8032 2 роки тому +46

    There were so many opportunities to look more closely at this young mans behaviour. I’m sad for him and everyone else at the receiving end of this tragic situation.

  • @brandonhall7498
    @brandonhall7498 2 роки тому +20

    I live in the Greater Nashville Area and lived in Antioch for a while. I went to that Waffle House several times and it is harrowing thinking that someone so outside of reality could get access to firearms and go on a spree. We need better enforcement of gun laws and better treatment and cultural approach to mental health.

    • @beece16
      @beece16 2 роки тому +3

      You deserve more than a handful of likes. Yes someone who is obviously mentally off should have a harder time getting fire arms. You mentioned the mental illness as well which is always pushed aside while the focus goes straight to gun laws. Bravo on mentioning both.

  • @lifeofliv2730
    @lifeofliv2730 2 роки тому +54

    I live right down the road from this Waffle House and actually ate there the night right before this. I remember how sweet the cook was. There is a memorial there that faces the street now and a smaller one inside the restaurant.
    James Shaw is truly a hero.

    • @petertreid
      @petertreid 2 роки тому +5

      Shaw's heroics to disarm Travis while unarmed himself saved lives that day. A true hero, indeed!

    • @yepwhatever1142
      @yepwhatever1142 2 роки тому +1

      Waffle House is for lunatics. Gross food, gross employees.

  • @RoccosVideos
    @RoccosVideos 2 роки тому +260

    I ordered a Dr Pepper the other day at Taco Bell. They asked me if I wanted a medium Dr., I said no, Grande.

  • @DowntownTasty
    @DowntownTasty 2 роки тому +4

    There’s many times where people call 911 to get help for their loved ones and instead of getting help these “professionals” believe they “aren’t respecting their authority” and put them in jail.

  • @lnc-to4ku
    @lnc-to4ku 2 роки тому +10

    Very tragic story! I'm glad you mentioned James Shaw, a true hero who saved maybe many other lives from being taken if that second round would have been loaded.
    Incredible analysis, Dr. Grande!! ♡♡

  • @cheeriotomato
    @cheeriotomato 2 роки тому +41

    I’m very interested about the commonality of delusions experienced by people with schizophrenia. I often hear that they involve government/police/“big brother” surveilling the person or that the person is god or hearing from god. It’s interesting that everyone has such different life experiences yet this condition produces really similar hallucinations. It’s very sad though, my heart goes out to anyone dealing with this illness.

    • @rosiered2357
      @rosiered2357 2 роки тому +11

      in my experience delusions in Schizophrenia are mostly related to a person or agency that the patient sees as an authority or higher power. Be that God, Mohamed, the government, NWO type delusions or even parents or grandparents. Once the patient goes into the hospital, the delusion often then centres around staff. It's a bit of a controversy about analysing delusions. Most professionals believe that they are meaningless, but some feel there is value and insight that can be gained.

    • @anneosullivan5160
      @anneosullivan5160 2 роки тому +2

      I always wonder the same thing

    • @Mouse_007
      @Mouse_007 2 роки тому

      paranoid schizophrenia was a common phrase when I was a kid. I'm not in healthcare so I don't know if that is a subset or just slang

    • @shethingsd
      @shethingsd 2 роки тому +2

      @@Mouse_007 it's now called schizophrenia with paranoia. Basically, schizophrenia is the diagnosis and delusions and hallucinations are some of the symptoms. Some of those delusions can be paranoid or they can be grandiose or just not true. Each person will have different symptoms. Proper and consistent medication can often cut down on the numbers of delusions and hallucinations.

    • @Mouse_007
      @Mouse_007 2 роки тому +1

      @@shethingsd thank you

  • @freeyourmind4349
    @freeyourmind4349 2 роки тому +48

    A true tragedy.
    Thanks for covering such tough topics like this.

  • @kelliearnold8498
    @kelliearnold8498 2 роки тому +8

    I used to live in Antioch Tennessee. There were so many chances to see the signs and try to help him. Great job Dr.Grande.

  • @rullmourn1142
    @rullmourn1142 2 роки тому +213

    Travis father should have been charged with more than what he got. That was a weak charge.

    • @thefaceoffuzz
      @thefaceoffuzz 2 роки тому +48

      All the red flags leading up to the shooting and his parents not only seemed to kind of shrug it off, but then gave him back weapons for some reason. Crazy.

    • @BurroGirl
      @BurroGirl 2 роки тому +24

      Agree - compare this w the Crumbley parents' charges.

    • @seymourclearly
      @seymourclearly 2 роки тому +24

      I feel sorry for anyone who has an idiot for a parent, what is it with americans and their guns, such an unnecessary and tragic story

    • @anamariacoyote4815
      @anamariacoyote4815 2 роки тому +25

      The father can certainly be sued civilly. The families of the Waffle House victims should file a class action lawsuit against him. He has assets. He has a business. It won't relieve their pain and loss yet it would set a precedence when it comes to firearms liability.

    • @rullmourn1142
      @rullmourn1142 2 роки тому +5

      @@BurroGirl .. That's what I was thinking.

  • @AlanJWatkins
    @AlanJWatkins 2 роки тому +139

    As a native of Atlanta "the waffle House shooter" is not nearly a specific enough name

    • @RoccosVideos
      @RoccosVideos 2 роки тому +19

      Welcome to America. It’s a damn shame.

    • @ilewtf2234
      @ilewtf2234 2 роки тому +5

      I have never been to a waffle house. 🤔

    • @nishottara777
      @nishottara777 2 роки тому +5

      That's just sad...

    • @danc.9554
      @danc.9554 2 роки тому +7

      I think Waffle House is a pretty common scene of altercations all around America for some reason

    • @ember1794
      @ember1794 2 роки тому

      😲

  • @EasternDreamer615
    @EasternDreamer615 2 роки тому +99

    I grew up near this Waffle House. I’ve spent time in the neighborhood next to the Waffle House.
    There is a lot of untreated addiction and mental illness in Tennessee. For a while, Nashville got people who couldn’t afford to live elsewhere, often people down on their luck.

    • @hauntedshadowslegacy2826
      @hauntedshadowslegacy2826 2 роки тому +5

      A lot of famous towns/cities are too expensive for average people to live in. What made Nashville more affordable than other places around it? I'm looking at apartments in and around Seattle, and everything is atrociously expensive (like, $3k a month for a studio apartment if you're gonna avoid places that get drive-by shootings every month).

    • @0ne01
      @0ne01 2 роки тому +4

      It's like that all around. Addiction and mental health issues never have enough funding and there's a huge stigma attached to both.
      Add cops who can't be bothered to do their jobs or think and this is what you get.

    • @AllHijinksNoHighDinks
      @AllHijinksNoHighDinks 2 роки тому +7

      @@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 When I lived in Seattle, I walked through the SPU campus as the mass shooting there was taking place. The shooter was apprehended in a similar manner as described in this video, but it could have been much worse. Moral of the story - theres no escaping the possibility that a bullet interrupts your day/life in America.

    • @TheOneWhoGnocchs
      @TheOneWhoGnocchs 2 роки тому +1

      yea I know a couple folks fitting that description who went there. bummer

    • @KimberlyLetsGo
      @KimberlyLetsGo 2 роки тому +6

      Nashville isn't alone in this situation. It's nationwide.

  • @enigmag9538
    @enigmag9538 2 роки тому +5

    "...revealing certain anatomical features". He says it so casually it just cracks me up, LOVE IT!

    • @coweatsman
      @coweatsman 2 роки тому

      Navigating YT's paranoid algorithm.

  • @dorothyhansen4374
    @dorothyhansen4374 2 роки тому +22

    Why is it always too late?! Everyone who had contact with this man knew he was ill!

    • @goranbreskic4304
      @goranbreskic4304 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly. He's obviously sick, but he is guilty while everyone who knew how sick and in need of help he was is not?

    • @missycitty9478
      @missycitty9478 2 роки тому +5

      I'm assuming his father either turned a blind eye, or just wasn't willing to accept it. Or both.
      Senseless and preventable.

    • @mariya_tortilla
      @mariya_tortilla 2 роки тому +5

      it's so hard for people to care or listen or believe you when you come forward with signs of schizophrenia and i can't tell you why. All i know is i had all the signs and professionals said i looked fine until im not and now i have schizo affective disorder b/c of hallucinations ):

    • @M123Xoxo
      @M123Xoxo 2 роки тому +3

      @@missycitty9478 There is nothing the father could do since he son was over 18th. We've made it nearly impossible to involuntarily commit anyone in this country for more than a few days and this is the result. There are thousands of parents desperately trying to get help for their adult children and can't legally do anything. Instead they must watch them become homeless and hurt themselves or others.

    • @missycitty9478
      @missycitty9478 2 роки тому +1

      @@M123Xoxo Bullshit. There was Plenty the father could have done. First thing, not allow his mentally ill son access to ANY type of gun.
      And it's easier than you think to have someone commited especially when they have a long history of mental illness, and a lengthy record with authorities because of it.
      People are just plain lazy and don't fight hard enough! u
      You're making too many excuses.

  • @robertgiles9124
    @robertgiles9124 2 роки тому +32

    Seems his Father could be sued by the Victims for proving the firearms.He must have been a bit nuts himself after all the warning signs. The Father should also be in Prison as a co conspirator when he agreed not to return the damn weapons.

    • @eriklarson9137
      @eriklarson9137 2 роки тому +7

      I agree. I am very pro second amendment, but giving a known lunatic his guns back AFTER THE COURT told him not to is indefensible. I think his dad should be in jail for the rest of his natural life as well.

  • @calendarpage
    @calendarpage 2 роки тому +20

    I watched the trial. Saying that people were "wounded" does not fully respect the level of wounds people endured, such as having large portions of your arm or leg removed by a bullet or still using a cane years after the event. The wounds and scars are horrific. I have a schizophrenic sibling and have worked with schizophrenics. It can be difficult dealing with them at times. It's easy for people to blame the father, but once the person is an adult, there's not much you can do. The system protects them. They can make their own decisions, including not taking meds or getting therapy. I feel for the father and the victims.

    • @fartlord5000
      @fartlord5000 2 роки тому +6

      you feel for the father who armed his own son after being told not to? travis is the one who lost through no fault of his own and now he gets to live a sad, miserable life in jail for it.

    • @johntaranto29
      @johntaranto29 2 роки тому +1

      @@fartlord5000 I still feel bad for the father. He was in denial which is like a mental illness in itself. He probably believed in his heart his son wasn't dangerous. I'd call him dumb but denial is a bit different. Was probably a little dumb.

    • @nineteenfortyeight6762
      @nineteenfortyeight6762 2 роки тому +3

      'The system' specifically ordered the father to keep the guns away from him.

    • @It-is-me...Melsie
      @It-is-me...Melsie Рік тому

      The father is an idiot. I hope he feels regret for the rest of his dumb life.

  • @rickl.1603
    @rickl.1603 2 роки тому +4

    Insanity is so sad to me. I hope we one day figure out what is really going on so that we can fix it. Thanks for the content!

  • @cottontails9003
    @cottontails9003 2 роки тому +22

    Thank you Dr Grande, that was a brilliant teachable analysis. I agree with diagnosis of guilty by reason of insanity. Also his father was irresponsible, giving back his guns. I bet the lifeguards were impressed. Thank you Dr Grande. Brilliant analysis and topic.

  • @marlinfisher2529
    @marlinfisher2529 2 роки тому +4

    Dear Dr G another superb analysis. How did Travis got hold of guns? Hope his dad gets time, he enabled this entire catastrophe, by giving Travis access to guns. Truly shocking.

  • @BinhNguyen-mx8pr
    @BinhNguyen-mx8pr 2 роки тому +6

    Thank you Dr Grande for putting videos like this out there as it helps the public understand more on schizophrenia and have compassion/understanding for the mentally ill who commits murder. I don’t condone Travis’s action but it helped me understand the plea of not guilty by insanity more.

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 2 роки тому +5

    My heart breaks for everyone involved in this Tragic Case! Travis was so Severely Mentally I'll, and Desperately needed Help! Prayers for All.💔💔💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @harrydemkee912
    @harrydemkee912 2 роки тому +8

    Although rare we see examples of society failing some very mentally ill people that eventually leads to others getting injured and even killed later on. He was obviously very impaired and getting worse, he was arrested several times and yet allowed to go back on his way and his firearms even given back to his family. There were plenty of opportunities to have him evaluated and admitted to a psychiatric facility. Giving the weapons back to his father is just unconscious-able to me, once used in a crime, the authorities should never give weapons back to the offender or the offenders family. Yes he was very Ill but the authorities have some responsibility here as well

  • @Chefsandrajm
    @Chefsandrajm 2 роки тому +11

    You kill me with the comic commentary and always are right on thx u for your efforts

  • @monicawylie3985
    @monicawylie3985 2 роки тому +10

    I’m flamixed as to why the parents did not get him help that much sooner. Also I don’t understand how he could’ve had access to firearms in the first place. Just wondering why they were not put in a gun safe?. If the parents saw that he was that bad off, there’s not only something wrong with him. But, with them also. The denial could not have been greater

    • @ReasonablySpeaking9808
      @ReasonablySpeaking9808 2 роки тому +3

      Could it be the dad knew of no other way to get rid of him from the family then to set him up for a final fall that would make him the burden of the state. Maybe the dad didn’t have the will to off him himself, so he set him up for the state to permanently take possession of him. It’s common unfortunately

  • @ireallydontknow8616
    @ireallydontknow8616 2 роки тому +19

    I don't know if I've missed this but would you consider doing one for Kanye West and his apparent stalker Behavior??

    • @kevinross6235
      @kevinross6235 2 роки тому +3

      Kanye seems to be obsessed with Pete Davidson.

    • @ReasonablySpeaking9808
      @ReasonablySpeaking9808 2 роки тому +7

      Kanye seems to be a very disturbed individual. The kardasian clan only elevated it.

    • @mariya_tortilla
      @mariya_tortilla 2 роки тому +3

      @@ReasonablySpeaking9808 no kanye has mental illness kim did not make it worse, stop spreading that bullshit. I hate when people don't look at mental illness for what it is. Kanye has no one else to blame but himself. he is a grown ass man.

    • @ReasonablySpeaking9808
      @ReasonablySpeaking9808 2 роки тому +1

      @@mariya_tortilla I said what I said! Don’t come for me with that foul mouth of yours. Did I cuss you? NO. Do I have a right to my opinion? YES. Whatever logic you attempted to parlay towards me was lost in your nasty ass response. Don’t tell me what to do. You have no authority over me!

  • @SteveMHN
    @SteveMHN 2 роки тому +9

    What was his Dad thinking when he gave him his guns back?

  • @user-cs1un6sp1wRennata
    @user-cs1un6sp1wRennata 2 роки тому +6

    Excellent analysis Dr. Grande! Sad to say about Travis " he is already trapped in a prison in his own mind "

  • @BiancaBabe
    @BiancaBabe 2 роки тому +5

    Sweet. Was just thumbing through UA-cam and you popped up! Bless your heart ❤️ you are THE most consistent content creator. And still the most consistent thing in my life 😂😂 🌵🌵

  • @dianajane6185
    @dianajane6185 2 роки тому +3

    Good morning, Dr. G. I watched the entire trial while laid up with COVID. Your thoughts on this were so helpful to me in understanding qualifying factors, and seemingly non-qualifying factors, like organized methods and premeditative preparedness, as they might relate to a NGBRI defense. You have a wonderful talent. Yes! Truly. With all the delusions and psychotic notions obscuring his cognitive functioning, if this case doesn’t qualify for a finding of NGBRI, that concept is a useless legal construct for a finding of not guilty. Travis suffered greatly, anguishing in his truck prior to commencing the slaughter, aware that it would be wrongdoing, but pleading with God to send him confirmation. Where is the voice of God when you need him? All that prep and he ultimately had to rely on a letter on a nearby hat.
    Fortunately for society-either way, he will never be let out. I hope he gets treatment. As you point out, the prison of a distorted mind is the worst.
    My heart aches for the beautiful lives he destroyed by trauma and death.
    Have a beautiful Delaware day. ❤️

  • @rmkilc
    @rmkilc 2 роки тому +3

    I agree but it's hard for a jury to come to that conclusion in such a horrific case. Why don't we call it guilty by reason of insanity instead of not guilty by reason of insanity? Handle it exactly the same but just change the wording.

    • @kathrynturnbull990
      @kathrynturnbull990 2 роки тому +1

      If the jury can't figure out what this conviction means based on instruction (either because of the wording, their emotions, or both), it kind of speaks to how useless this charge is within the US criminal justice system anyway. I agree with Dr. Grande: if anyone should have been able to use this defense successfully, it should have been this man. But the justice system in the U.S. is geared very heavily towards the punitive: you do X, we lock you up and throw away the key.

    • @katherinejackman4190
      @katherinejackman4190 2 роки тому +1

      I believe the British say, Guilty But Insane. That makes much more sense to me

  • @petertreid
    @petertreid 2 роки тому +4

    It was the cartoons he drew on the food cartons that sealed his fate. There was some uncertainty about his intentions & state of mind when committing the act, but the content of his drawings left the jury in no doubt about the kind of impulses that drove him to carrying out the indiscriminate and deliberate attack.

  • @moegoggles
    @moegoggles 2 роки тому +8

    Taylor Swift would never leave me for him. I wire a lot of money to her. We’re in love

    • @MALXCX
      @MALXCX 2 роки тому +1

      You sound like a maniac

    • @and_the_first_last
      @and_the_first_last 2 роки тому +1

      She's just using you for your Netflix account

  • @itsjustlaurel1531
    @itsjustlaurel1531 2 роки тому +2

    I watched every bit of this trial I'm still shocked he wasn't found insane. But the biggest letdown was his father giving him his guns . I'll never understand that.

  • @pierre6625
    @pierre6625 2 роки тому +7

    Hello Dr. Grande, this was very interesting to listen to. I have to agree with your final thoughts that he was probably not guilty due to insanity. My only thoughts on this kind of case is that it seems that even today in 2022 people with these complex delusions are not noticed until it is often too late. Kind of sad. But then again it's also very sad for the families that lost loved ones.. Best Regards and thank you for sharing the videos. 👍❤

  • @sheep4521
    @sheep4521 2 роки тому +3

    *Fun Fact:* I stayed at the Parthenon Pavilion Mental Hospital in Nashville with a woman who had PTSD from being at the Waffle House during this shooting

  • @sdnikko8960
    @sdnikko8960 2 роки тому +22

    In the prison he will probably be forced to take his meds. A Supreme Court ruling permits it, except in California of course.
    But really, how do you find Travis not insane? Just the part about wearing a jacket over his birthday suit is enough for me.

  • @coweatsman
    @coweatsman 2 роки тому +4

    His parents seemed wracked. Why call the police for his delusions and not an ambulance? His father giving him back his guns given his symptoms?

  • @AtomicDreamz
    @AtomicDreamz 2 роки тому +1

    I have multiple mental illnesses and suffer from auditory hallucinations. Thankfully my hallucinations are pretty boring. I’ll take my hearing door knocks, someone calling my name, bird sounds, and occasional muffled group conversations that sound like they’re coming from another room and consider myself lucky that they aren’t anything dangerous to anyone else.

  • @farnazgh6839
    @farnazgh6839 2 роки тому +1

    Dr. Grande, I admire your respect in these kind of sad cases. You didn't sign off with a joke. Thanks for your interesting videos.

  • @kathydove3148
    @kathydove3148 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you Dr. Grande for making this video analysis. I stopped going to Waffle House in the 1980s. Clearly, it's a dangerous place. In this case, I feel Travis' father is to blame. Instead of getting his son the mental health treatment he needed, he gave him several dangerous firearms. This is why gun control will continue to be an issue in America. Too many kids and mentally ill people are being given guns; instead of love, compassion, care, and attention from their parents.

  • @jackcarson4618
    @jackcarson4618 2 роки тому +5

    God damn it! Was just about to go to sleep when this popped up. Now I gotta watch it 😂 interesting topic by the way, keep up the great content Dr Grande 👍

  • @amyprice3661
    @amyprice3661 2 роки тому +2

    Loved this video! Had not heard of this case prior to watching. It made me think of the lady who (I can't remember her name or the exact details so I may be slightly off here) was a dental hygienist, and had recently given birth and was according to her family suffering from postpartum depression/ psychosis....... and eventually put the baby in her car and drove to the White House as she had hallucinations about the president bugging her house/ or was out to get her..... she was ultimately shot and killed by police at the White House when she drove thru a barrier and kept going trying to find alternate routes to get inside the White House. Would love to hear your analysis on that case! Very sad and tragic case involving postpartum depression!

  • @tapq
    @tapq 2 роки тому +1

    Wow. Great analysis Dr. Grande. I agree with your conclusion 100%. What a sad and tragic story.

  • @ember1794
    @ember1794 2 роки тому +1

    Wow!! What a hero, James Shaw Jr.!! How can someone with such a diagnosis as Travis have access to weapons in any way whatsoever 😲?

  • @marieldavison5121
    @marieldavison5121 2 роки тому

    There are just some people who make what they do for a living look real easy despite the fact that their job is anything but easy. You TG are one of those people. So glad to have found your channel. M

  • @cyn37211
    @cyn37211 2 роки тому +2

    We’ve lived near this particular Waffle House nearly 30 years, and eat there frequently (at least before covid, for a while. We still try to go when we can, but they deliver now). When you walk into the entry, there’s a small memorial set up honoring the victims. It’s very sobering.

  • @aina3387
    @aina3387 2 роки тому +1

    I have family who live in the same town as the father of Travis and run in the same circles as him. What I have heard is that according to the father, the guns were confiscated because it was feared Travis would harm himself, not others. It was several months after that when Travis requested his guns back, so the crisis had ostensibly passed. His father called the police to ask whether he should return the guns and the *police told him he should*. So I don't think anyone expected him to do what he did. Travis is a clearly insane person who should be in a mental facility, not a prison. Its a very tragic situation all around.

    • @ember1794
      @ember1794 2 роки тому

      I see! Thank you for clarifying!

  • @sheilagravely5621
    @sheilagravely5621 2 роки тому

    How could I have missed this case? TFS, I appreciate your work Dr. Todd.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @alanmontoya7162
    @alanmontoya7162 2 роки тому

    "I guess that was his way of proving his point" lolz
    Never stop dr. Grande, I'm here forever!

  • @KristyKins
    @KristyKins 2 роки тому

    At 12:06, is a powerful statement. Thank you, Dr. Grande for this analysis & may you have a great evening. 🌵

  • @TheDilemma76
    @TheDilemma76 2 роки тому +14

    At one point does hearing God talk to you go from being just deeply religious to mental illness? We've got a ton of people in this country (USA) who claims to talk to God. How do psychiatrists and psychologists determine that difference?

    • @sticklebacketienne
      @sticklebacketienne 2 роки тому +1

      I’ve often wondered this

    • @abeswanick5183
      @abeswanick5183 2 роки тому +1

      I would also like to know this, especially based on the Chris Chan stuff…

    • @evelynwaugh4053
      @evelynwaugh4053 2 роки тому

      I think that that is a way of saying that the person hopes to understand God's will through the usual venues, reading religious works, prayer, nature, meditation, etc. It's not meant literally.

    • @djoecav
      @djoecav 2 роки тому

      @@evelynwaugh4053 While sitting in church with my parents when I was young, I would constantly hear stories of people saying they heard the voice of God telling them to give to the church or call their loved one or that they felt the spirit of Jesus in the room with them
      One lady even said she put her arms out while walking her dog and felt God "wrap his arms around her"

    • @evelynwaugh4053
      @evelynwaugh4053 2 роки тому +1

      @@djoecav Sure, but it isn't meant literally. I think it reflects the social norms of that church, or the church they grew up in. The church I grew up in (1st Congregational) isn't evangelical, and people did not use those phrases, but it is very common in evangelical churches. I think the big picture meaning is that people struggle to know God's will, and how to reconcile and adapt it for a modern world.

  • @lostsoul1278
    @lostsoul1278 2 роки тому +2

    Clothing optional attitude....lol
    This is what I love about this channel

  • @tb7771
    @tb7771 2 роки тому +5

    And that's why I wear an aluminum hat. Taylor Swift is always trying to read my mind. That's how she gets her lyrics for her songs.

  • @themajesticmagnificent386
    @themajesticmagnificent386 2 роки тому +2

    That’s a sad awful case..Things we’re left to grow worse and people suffered..Thank you for a good video Doctor Grande on this case..A shame he didn’t reach out or was reached before it got to where it did..

  • @Amy-gh8lw
    @Amy-gh8lw 2 роки тому +3

    How could they find him guilty with severe schizophrenia???? He was 'insane'..

    • @kathrynturnbull990
      @kathrynturnbull990 2 роки тому +1

      Simple. He killed too many people. His violence made too many people suffer.
      I agree with your sentiment entirely: he should not have been found not guilty by reason of insanity. It seems pretty clear that the delusions were clearly directing his behaviour: certainly to the criterion of "Reasonable Doubt."
      Close observation shows that convictions and the criminal justice system in the US in general is set up to be punitive. So, the person's punishment is greater depending upon the damage they inflict (as well as the sentencing laws). Even though mental state is supposed to matter, it appears not to matter as much as the legal system sets it out. It only matters for people who have a lot of money to hire very fancy lawyers.

  • @kristenmeza4295
    @kristenmeza4295 2 роки тому +2

    My cousin had schizophrenia too. Her Dad had it too. I lived with her as a care taker and that was difficult and sad. She swore up and down people lived in our walls and people were after her. I’d hate to live like that.

    • @kathykline7202
      @kathykline7202 2 роки тому +1

      My brother, he killed himself sometime back, had it. He said he could hear aliens under the earth building spaceships.

  • @Elfnethu
    @Elfnethu 2 роки тому +2

    I never understand these cases. After the father witnessed multiple episodes, Travis went out in womens clothes (and a weapon), attacked the White House and the goverment seized his weapons, the father didn't asked for help, he didn't consult with professionals: he gave back the weapons.
    In my mind the father is more guilty than Travis, since he (presumable) was sane.

  • @angelagoudy5923
    @angelagoudy5923 2 роки тому

    Hearing the last thing you said. About him already being trapped within his mind. Just broke my heart ;( I myself and MANY family members all struggle with mental illness. So I understand and empathize GREATLY with that feeling. I just love your vids. I have learned so much! Free therapy!!!! Ya ya!!!

  • @pamelaneibuhr6959
    @pamelaneibuhr6959 2 роки тому +7

    Describes the total breakdown of mental health treatment or lack of in this country. Where I live, they just discharge them homeless shelters, during the day they just hang out on the streets. They usually never go back to the shelters at night, just live on the streets. I watched a documentary where a lot of mental health patients commit crimes in order to get into prison to get their meds and a roof over their heads. SMH.

    • @jasonb9562
      @jasonb9562 2 роки тому +1

      It’s the catch 22. You can 5150 them to get them off the street and on medication but then once they respond to the medication, you can’t hold them and they’re back on the street. I used to see this play out all the time outside my office.

    • @michaellovely6601
      @michaellovely6601 2 роки тому

      Back in the 1980's during the Regan era President Regan closed down all insane asylums in the United States under the belief that community based treatment was better than simply putting mentally unstable people in institutions.

  • @michaelgreer9023
    @michaelgreer9023 2 роки тому +1

    "Travis Reinking's Contribution to Necrology": In the growing case files of necrology, a discipline that advances the cause of understanding how death influences the human mind, Travis can be said to have contributed a number of important points. (1) When Travis wore a pink (female) housecoat and asked "Is this what you want?" he was inviting a favorable comparison with other females; (2) Confusion about sexuality is a key piece of all necrological research; (3) Travis's involvement with a Waffle House indicates that there is a connection between waffles and death; (4) I suppose we might say, "Anyone who eats waffles will die one day;" (5) On one theory of schizophrenia, the inability to integrate a sexual identity is one of the contributing factors to the condition of schizophrenia; (6) According to Lacan, schizophrenia has much to do with "The Name of the Father," the symbolic acceptance of castration which allows the person to access the symbolic order. What we see here is Travis' total confusion about the role of the symbolic in human affairs; (7) Wearing a pink housecoat and carrying a firearm is a full display of the inability to integrate a gender identity into his personality because The Name of the Father was foreclosed when he was young. Thank you for reading.

  • @RowanWarren78
    @RowanWarren78 2 роки тому +2

    His father reminds me of the foster father of the Parkland Highschool shooter. When he was interviewed, and asked why he allowed a teenager, who he knew was mentally unstable, amass a cache of guns. The dimwit's answer was, "well, it's his right [to own guns]". Absolute idiocy.

  • @leontrotsky7816
    @leontrotsky7816 2 роки тому +11

    If this man wasn't, for legal purposes, insane, no-one is. Unfortunately, I think that (in the US, at least) the various defences based on insanity or mental illness are becoming meaningless in high-profile cases because of the public cynicism caused by all the past serial killers/mass murderers that relied on them.

  • @user-ov2fc5sd1e
    @user-ov2fc5sd1e 2 роки тому +5

    Why is it common for delusional people to think they are speaking to God? Once upon a time I had a psychotic break and it happened to me as well. I wonder what's the explanation here as it seems to be a common occurrence during a psychotic episode

    • @zuglymonster
      @zuglymonster 2 роки тому

      Well it doesn't help that we have people in the media and on TV claiming they talk to God all the time and it's seen as completely normal

  • @greghanson5696
    @greghanson5696 2 роки тому +1

    Travis' father Jeffrey Reinking was charged with unlawful transfer of a firearm by authorities in Tazewell County, Illinois. The charge is a Class 4 Felony in the state. As of Feb 15, 2022 he is still facing charges in Illinois.

  • @pamelamays4186
    @pamelamays4186 2 роки тому

    Opened the pink house coat to reveal certain anatomical features.
    Very polite way of saying he engaged in flashing activity.

  • @sweetmusicwoman984
    @sweetmusicwoman984 2 роки тому

    Your videos are always very interesting. Always look forward to watching them.

  • @dougsteel7414
    @dougsteel7414 2 роки тому +1

    The appreciation of "wrongness" is irrelevant if it's a parameter in the mind of someone who cannot distinguish reality, a very archaic measure

  • @zenamen5221
    @zenamen5221 2 роки тому +1

    "The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members." My observation is that this quote by Ghandi belongs here.

  • @nmartin5551
    @nmartin5551 Рік тому +2

    I have to join the others who believe the father should have had way heavier charges than he got. He directly allowed this to happen by returning the weapons to Travis.

  • @juliesimonson9181
    @juliesimonson9181 2 роки тому

    Your voice was at its best!
    So relaxing 👍

  • @spaghettiinadictionary8645
    @spaghettiinadictionary8645 2 роки тому +7

    I wonder if Travis was involved in the conspiracy theory of gang stalking. People who believe that share similar thoughts, and beliefs to this individual.
    Be careful when going down that rabbit hole.

  • @doctorshell7118
    @doctorshell7118 2 роки тому +10

    How was he found guilty?? Can’t he simply be remanded to a state hospital or conserved instead of going to prison?

    • @johntaranto29
      @johntaranto29 2 роки тому +1

      The courts are sadistic sometimes. Maybe they deal with so many sadists its rubbed off on them.

  • @allhaildrewcifer9541
    @allhaildrewcifer9541 2 роки тому

    Finally. i am from Tennessee and this needs more coverage.

  • @danielx555
    @danielx555 2 роки тому +5

    The delusions and hallucinations are a mitigating factor for sure, but I get the sense that the court weighed the mitigating factors properly. He knew at the time he was doing it that it was contrary to law and not proper.
    I worked on a case once with a young man who believed that he had written several major Hollywood films. His family often made the mistake of fighting with him about the content of his delusions, as well as a variety of other battles that they engaged in everyday. He threw himself out of a moving car once during one of these fights. It's heartbreaking to think of families dealing with delusional disorders and not knowing what to do. This whole case is sad.

  • @floratink
    @floratink 2 роки тому +6

    I feel very sorry for Travis. I hope he finds peace within himself.

  • @Beefystumeat
    @Beefystumeat 2 роки тому +4

    I know Taylor Swift isn’t my girlfriend because she has no angsty songs about me.

    • @MasterMalrubius
      @MasterMalrubius 2 роки тому

      You'd think they'd at least get a partial writing credit.

  • @hazelangus
    @hazelangus 2 роки тому +1

    A friend of mine has schizophrenia and what this guy went through tracks absolutely with what my friend experiences, though thankfully my friend is not this bad.
    But yeah, my friend has had terrifying experiences. They were walking down a street and a car pulled up, people got out. The car was a white Volvo. My friend saw a black car and government officials with firearms coming to get them. There is somebody living in their head that has a command-type name (think something like "The Decider") and the government has listening devices in their walls.
    They do well now - I don't ask, but they seem to be happy and thriving. It may be that they are now on the right balance of medication to be aware that these things are not in line with objective reality, even if they may still experience them.

  • @catherinemueller7968
    @catherinemueller7968 2 роки тому +2

    I thought you said "Travis Lion King" 🦁

  • @DowntownTasty
    @DowntownTasty 2 роки тому +1

    Also it’s not just the psychosis/insanity part of mental health they don’t take seriously. People with addiction can wind up in the system just for being an addict even if they’ve never stolen or hurt anyone. The drug courts will tell you how it’s a disease and relapsed happen, and then punish you for behaving like an addict. Something needs to change.

  • @timmartineau3858
    @timmartineau3858 2 роки тому +2

    So the father who was told to keep guns away from his son wasn't charged with conspiracy to commit murder, because?

  • @ashliM2990
    @ashliM2990 2 роки тому

    Yay perfect timing I get to listen to this while I go to sleep because his voice is Soo soothing and then I get to actually watch it once I wake up . Love this channel

  • @juliakaz146
    @juliakaz146 2 роки тому +2

    Dr grande > all other UA-cam docs

  • @armygirl5179
    @armygirl5179 2 роки тому +1

    Dr. Grande can you make an update on Sherri Papini now that she has been arrested for lying about being kidnapped.

  • @BustedWalletGarage
    @BustedWalletGarage 2 роки тому +3

    I’m Tennessee you’d rather be in prison than a state mental hospital. You have more rights & better quality of life.

    • @White-Michael935
      @White-Michael935 2 роки тому +5

      You've been in both?

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 2 роки тому

      State mental hospitals are horrendous, in most states. This is a crime, in itself. US could do some much better in this regard.

  • @justnoted2995
    @justnoted2995 2 роки тому

    Aww such a clear and scientific analysis Dr Grande. It is difficult to explain his father's naivety, rationale and denial of his son's mental health issues by giving him back his firearms

  • @Cheer4lifeAmberMarie
    @Cheer4lifeAmberMarie 2 роки тому

    I just discovered your channel I absolutely love it! Thank you for the amazing content!! 👏

  • @BigZebraCom
    @BigZebraCom 2 роки тому +4

    Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video only speculating on what the jury will order for breakfast:
    "I think when the Waffle House Jury Comes in, they will have decided on the 'ALL-STAR SPECIAL™ ". The ultimate in breakfast that balances value and taste. The variety of options makes this the go-to choice to make you an All Star at work, home or play."

  • @ChoKwo
    @ChoKwo 2 роки тому +21

    The last line of this is tragic.
    What he did was horrendous but he should be locked away to mental health facility where he can get help, not jail.