Dreaming Queen Rearing at Christmas? Barnyard Bees Mating Nuc
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- This video is an old video recorded in spring that never got uploaded.
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My farmer father kept bees. It is a pleasure for a now city girl to watch your videos.
David, I use wedge frames and turn the wedge down and staple 4 times. It's right down the middle with a guide, no starter strip. Super easy to reuse also.
Love your videos. You, Jimmy Pence and your families have a great Christmas.
Thanks Dave, could you show details of the feeder for these Nucs?
I got a 3# package from you, thay are very gentle and my queen rocks! She is the best I've ever had
Hi David,
Nice video and thanks for sharing it..!
How long period need the splited colonie for rebuild them self back..?
David, thank you for your hard work to send us content on beekeeping. Please do not let commenters like Jeff Roberts sink in, just let them roll off your back. There will always be people who take and take and give nothing back but criticism . UA-cam is a wonderful medium for getting information out and promoting goods and services.. We are not a Socialist Republic yet at my last look, even though some people are trying very hard to get it that way, lol. Keep up the good work , David, providing us beekeepers with your good experience and by all means, keep hawking your wares. God Bless and Merry Christmas to you and yours.
I've said this before, Don't waste the breath it takes to mention the 'dislikes' that come from narrow minded people, a blind man can see how well this works, especially for the small backyard keeper ;)
I think people just get jealous because they didn't do or think of it first!
Do you screw them onto the stand at all? They seem like they'd blow over in a strong wind.
I built 32 mini mating nucs last winter, used them this past summer with queen cells and they work great.
@Jeff Robertsthey where two frame mating nucs that I built. Splinting a five frame box in half works good to, you have to figure out what works good for you.
great info Barynyard Bees Have a Merry Christmas!
Your bees are so much calmer than mine. I have found that mine do better to check in the afternoons. I can’t wait to do splits next year
I intend to make a couple of these nucs this winter after watching all of your videos on them.
wish i could get queens from you, youve got to have the most gentle bees ive seen
great video. I appreciate all the info you put out there. Learning a lot. Thanks
versatility is doing things simply easy (what's not to like?) .... love your videos.
David, as far as you know, are y'all the first to come up with these two mating nucs? I like it and have incorporated this into my thinking. I hope y'all are having a good year. Thanks Phillip Hall
How do you keep the wind from blowing them over? The last one you touched is shaky already. The ones with larger feeders on them, look very top heavy.
This is an off topic question but, if someone had a colony, or two, of somewhat aggressive bees, can you calm the colony down by replacing the queen with one that is a calmer, more gentaler bee? Or is agressiveness more a matter of environment?
A lot of good information here David, and as always thanks for sharing.
So the hive you took the queen out of and moved to the other hive that hive you took her out of is now queen less so they will make a new queen to replace her with?
I have a question for you. So if I make a walk away split. Can I take that nuc to new location or do i have to leave it in bee yard for the mating of the new queen or is new hive gonna raise its own drones for mating the queen
Do you need to treat those nucs for mites or does the brood break take care of it?
With the line of mating nucs with the entrance in opposite directions, how are they facing? North /South... East /West? Does it matter?
How to make it? Can the dimension of the box and top feeder be shared? If you have already done, please let me know the link.
Great video David.
At about 6 minutes in to the video, the frame that you took out with the queen and moved over to the new box, how long did it take them to draw out all of the comb on that frame?
Also, what are the boxes on top?
Lastly, You used deep frames... Could this be done with mediums? All of my equipment are 10 frame medium boxes for consistency and simplicity so I am wondering if I would be able to make this approach work.
ALL that being said I consider the space issue irrelevant. The convenience of a full frame out weighs it all. I love the idea of your two frame units because it uses standard frames that can be put anywhere without the need for box mods. It makes it far more hassle free and I consider the choice a no brain'r really. I was going to purchase or make a wack of those Styrofoam mini mating nucs. You can make a whack of queens easily but there isn't enough room to make bees. I want and need both queens and the bees. I don't understand any debate on the issue or any criticism on your two frame because it's common knowledge bees do well in a more confined space with small numbers. They should pack out in a single emergence of brood then can be transferred or split. Don't matter what the criticisms are the two full size deep frame nuc is a better idea to multiply both bees and queens hassle free I've found.
I disagree with the point that the mini nuc you show has less frame space available. If that mini nuc is five 1/2 frames deep then that equals 2 1/2 full frames deep almost. Almost because of the extra side rails on the extra frames you do lose some drawing space but it should still be the same size or bigger area wise for the bees. Just a different shape. As far as the little Styrofoam jobbies: They will get you mated queens but you have to have everything scheduled and be johnny on the spot to get the queen out and a new cell in. A queen will have no room to lay in a day or two. Kinda depends on what a person is after. Mated queens alone or mated queens and maximum brood potential. Even if the goal is just queens your two frame may be better because there is enough brood being laid that you never have to shake out and re stock nurse bees as they do with styrofoam. Although more inconvenient to put away and store after the queen rearing season. But the big seller is still and will always be standard frame size with the rest of your equipment. This spring I'm gonna build a bunch because I want to increase my hives and I just haven't found a better more hassle free way than your two frame idea to do it.
I've said this before, Don't waste the breath it takes to mention the 'dislikes' that come from narrow minded people, a blind man can see how well this works, especially for the small backyard keeper ;)
I think people just get jealous because they didn't do or think of it first!
@@davidhaught84 you bet!, can tell you work extra hard at bringing 'everyone' your ideas openly and sincerely, no small feat, these videos take time, and your good at 'winging' the needed commentary to achieve making sense for 'all' in what your filming.... i do what you do but with 5 framers (deeps) mainly due to our weather, even in july we can get snow, think for me, the 2's may not work, tho the idea of is awesome, done some 2's in a cardboard nuc (seasonally, worked great) I have an affinity for nucs, will use 2 for brood, and a super, lol then once they fill the sup i split, te-he keep the honey for them for the splits.... lol, works the same, now i gotta learn how to raise queens, bank nucs etc ...
Hi David. How are you finding the return rate of queens lately?
I have a tech question, how many inches are your nucs off the ground? do you find a certain height better?
*I hope to find the time to build a bunch next year. A bunch of nucs too.*
i made these sizes boxes months ago and have just used 1 two weeks ago as a trial in a colder climate/ tasmania/ ,,its ready to split again but being cold winters im looking to get them into five frames before its winter again ,
Ha David Merry Christmas I have a question need to know it is winter 2 frames of bees is not a lot of bees to go though the winter How many of your bees survive the cold winter. Here where I am I lose colonies that have 8 frames or more they are full of bees and they are strong they are productive hives, and they just die on me and I do treat for mites how do u have a survival rate on not strong colonies thanks and again I hope u have a merry christmas
Have you ever tried or thought of making a three frame nuc box.
I have a issue with my hives if you could help. They have roaches when I open the top, it's winter and I understand why they are there but if is bad or what can I do about it?
Hi David, its good to know there is a use for 2 frame nucs
im saving up to get one of your blue dry feeders
I made a couple of two frame nucs after watching your videos and tried to raise a few queens from cells saved from walkways and swarms this spring (Southern Hemisphere). I didn't manage to get any mated queens out of two mating nucs. What is your success rate in these? Is it just a numbers game, or do you have any tips to increase the chances of a mated queen returning?
It helps to have more than one yard with different lines of queens and drones close enough to create a drone congregation areas for the queens to breed. That and like you said predators and such play roll in a queen making it back safely and mated.
Is there another video where he tells how to build the boxes and the feeders? What is the box made out of?
I was actually dreaming about queen rearing. I plan on building at least 4 two frame NUCs this winter, thanks to your videos.
We cant overwinter a two frame up here in Canada but I will use them when its warm enough.
Just bring them inside, I'm sure the wife won't mind.
@@privatebubba8876 That is what the big producers do in the extreme north. They take all their hives and move them into climate controlled buildings. They get stacked floor to ceiling, its always dark and kept at 5 degrees C. Normal house would kill them obviously as they would be too warm and hence too active.
@@jonathanswoboda Yep I've seen them. Ian Steppler , a Canadian Beekeeper's Blog is the one I'm most familiar with. He keeps his warehouse at about or just below the temperature that a cluster maintains on it's outer most boundary which is 45F. My bees will fly at around 50F. down here in S. Louisiana. My girls were doing orientation flights this afternoon, 55F bright sunshine.
I like your honey filter idea and I think I could make it more industrious. If you took some 2x4's and built yourself a real simple stand you could have the filter bucket under and a holder bucket with honey gate sit on the stand so that you can easily allow the top bucket with honey gate (filled with unfiltered honey) flow out the honey gate directly into the filter bucket without muscling it around or holding it in air.
Using your paint filter idea, which is very clever, you put the paint filter on the filter bucket but only allow it to into the filter bucket a short ways, securing the depth it enters the filter bucket by securing the majority of the filter on the outside of the filter bucket with a securing band. You'd have to control the flow of honey with the honey gate to keep the honey from pouring over the side of the filter bucket - but you wouldn't have to wait a long period of time for the paint filter to drip dry because only a small segment of it would have had any honey on it.
Also, if you adjusted how far the honey gate is open you can slow it to a slow drizzle and just leave it to slowly drain out so that the filter can do it's thing while you're off doing something else. I drew a diagram to explain.
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im just a ranch gal who likes bees.... mostly raise the products to mix in my horses feeds
@@davidhaught84 I raise welsh ponies and my mares shine from the pollen and honey i use in place of molasses....
Did I miss something? Did you make a split in December?
Second one on here. Great video and I agree on the deep mini system. Very versatile! 86k and climbing dude!!
@@davidhaught84 Yur Welcome, and if I don't get to reply before Christmas, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!
Show how you feed the two frame nucs?
David, when was this video actually made? What month?
David I know I am changing the subject (I am still gathering equipment at the moment I have 0 hives I have 3 swarm traps, season will soon be here.) I did watch the video but that is all in the future for me. I have heard you talk about feeding bees, and until I get hives that is where I am at feeding. So I am trying to learn everything I can about the food both sugar syrup and dry pollen, both of which I have out as I am trying to push the wild hive to swarm I have swam traps in place. But I am by nature a do it yourselfer. So I am trying to make my own food. Well sugar and water is easy enough. And dry pollen sub. well I can do that to, but I am wondering can I do more. I know that essential oils do specific things depending on the oil. Beyond that I know sugar syrup is the carb and pollen is both a carb and protein and in nature this is done with nectar and pollen. But with all the recipes that I have found no one and I really mean no one ever uses hemp oil or hemp seed oil (not sure of the difference in the two) but almost nothing contains the amount of amino acids that the two have. Is it worth the effort to pursue the benefits of maybe adding one or both to sugar syrup (in an emulsion) as a method to deliver amino acids?
Hi. Do you always have sugar water/syrup on mini nucs? What is with hole on top feeder box, you don't get robbing? Thanks keep up the great vids.
Question,... I have the ability to process my raw honey (small 2 gal batches) and dehydrate it, (also can do this with my pollen), its kinda a slow process, but my machine does all the work, takes the guess work out of it, (your box idea gave me an idea, put an extrance reducer on it, mainly to keep out the large bees i assume are wild along the creek bottom not far from me...
just got my 1st sample back from our extension agent and its 'pathogen' free, I know its not wise feeding random honey to your bees, but would appreciate your thoughts on this.... like i said before, ive used it so far for my horses nutrition supplements, but would love to make a sustainable source for my girls.... thoughts?
cool beans thx!,
Im in SW Montana
I like the brick status method. Would like a video on that.
If you have a metal top cover then a grease pencil works great and last through the weather for months. It can be removed with a cloth and a little elbow grease or a little glass cleaner.
Btw, what are the dimensions to make a mating nuc?
sure wish we could ship nucs with screen bags over them
Dave, your ad says you sell everything we need, but you don’t actually sell these mini nucs, or the feeders to go on top of them! When will you be bringing those to market?
Thanks Dave! I’ll call and see about getting some.
David, I was listening to the fat bee man, he said he does not like to have a queen trap, as it shortens the life of the bees. So how do you keep the queen from laying where you want honey from
Interesting idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
When there's a storm don't the hives blow off their stands? Even with the brick on them? How do you keep them so that they stay on their stands? I know you guys get pretty heavy winds during a storm over there.
@@davidhaught84 ok thanks, so will I need to do that if I set up a hive in any environment?
Hello, it makes sense to me. If I would have had one of these, I could have saved a small cluster of bees that I requeened, twice! The 5 frame nuc is just too much space at times. I'll be making some this winter. Thanks Dave, great advice as usual.
Dan, I just made up a mess of 5-frame nucs with follower boards. I will use a frame feeder which will take up a third space, but I start them out as 2-framers. The follower boards fences off unneeded space until needed. But I like the option to expand if need be. I do not sell bees so have no need to keep working 2-framers. I do make queens from cells I find in my 20 colonies, but use them mostly to requeen my hives or to help out other beekeepers including those I mentor. So, obviously the 2-frame system works great, but having a box that is expandable is better for my operation.
@@davemaloneyvideos That's a great idea! I remember Dave talking about using follower boards and I forgot all about it. I use a frame feeder in my nucs too and I was actually going to build 3 frame nucs, now I don't have too. Thanks Dave and Dave, lol.
I make 4 frames nuc's. They fit side by side onto a 10 frame hive if needed.
Just fill the empty space with wood or Styrofoam.
Do you have queens available right now?
@@davidhaught84 k thanks
Are you really splitting in December?? Is there enough drones?
This was recorded during summer, he wouldn't being splitting now, to cold and no drones. Look at the grass how green it is. Also the amount of brood in that box wouldn't be there in the winter months. Jeff Roberts in a few post above if your going to watch his video and then complain what he talks about in it, why not just stay off his channel if it bothers you so much.
Biz-zee Bee Farm who is Jeff Roberts? Not complaining, I was confused by the title of the vid. I thought he was doing a split in December. I’m in TX, we still have some green grass and warm weather, but my hives don’t have near enough brood to do a split. I really like the 2 frame nucs and have started making some, for the spring.
MrBobberino01 in several posts above yours. David to nice probably to say anything. David lives in North Georgia so his grass isn't green any longer. He was just illustrating on Queen rearing and splits in his 2 frame nucs.
It depends on where you are...I'm pretty sure that David was using this as a demonstration. It's pretty chilly up there. In south Florida, my wife caught a swarm Dec 27 while I was in the VA hospital. The bees slow down a little bit from Oct thru Dec, but not very much. We haven't had a frost here yet and the orange blossoms are beginning to bloom now. I started splitting to my 2 frames today...but I'd have no idea of how to raise bees up north. I watch everything David puts out, he's top notch in my book. Good luck to you where ever you may be.
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Will the queen lay year round?
In the deep south, yes. Here in south LA we only have a few days when the girls don't fly so they can be fed during periods of dearth, but here pollen is available 12 months a year. Something is always blooming. Our average temps for Dec. - Feb. are 65/43 F.
@@privatebubba8876 Im down here in Lafayette La
@@cajunbayouvlogs5308 I'm in Zachary and one of my hives is doing orientation flights right now.
@@privatebubba8876 I would like to do a tour of a small bee keeper and see if I can handle them.girls : )
@@cajunbayouvlogs5308 facebook.com/pg/AcadianaLaBees/posts/ These guys meet at the Carencro Library. I belong to the Capitol Area Beekeeper Association and we maintain 8 hives for training.
Eh, some good info and some misinformation... Make sure you do your own research before follow everything here. I like the 2 frame hives, but a good storm and you'll have a blown over mess... =)
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