The best way you can help new drivers to learn those skills is actually place the driving line where the really fast rides will ride. You can see that Rossi ignores that line at some point on nearly every corner.
The racing line shown is decent for hotlapping/quali and generally learning the track, but during a race you'll usually never take this general line. Other racers or track conditions (rain, rubber, etc) will often times force you to take one of many, many lines. You should turn off the racing line anyway because it's just a distraction and prevents you from truly creating your own lines around tracks.
@@Starmast3rmusicI was suspecting that. Glad to see I'm not the only one having problems following those lines. (I sometimes think I could be a lot faster with those line assistance off) gonna try Playing the game with the lines of to see how it goes.
game and its physics is great but cannot play this as its crashing all the time, please patch the PC version! this is ridiculous to release game in this state!
It's not just the PC, Xbox version is the same, but people conviniently aren't mention it. I just dropped the game until they release a patch to solve that, after have done the SAME race 4 times.
I remember the time back in Forza Motorsport 2005 you can train a drivatar. That drivatar will drive similarly to how the player drives. Ahh those were the days.
100%. I literally played FM1 2 days ago and showed this off on a live stream. I'm creating a video about all the epic missing things from previous Forza's and this was definitely one of them! FM1 even had 3x Forza aero rear wings to choose from on most vehicles. I feel like T10 did not pay homage to the older Forza's in FM8. It's almost like they completely forgot about what they did great in the older titles! :(
They did everything wrong lmao, I was in their dev testing program for this game for two years and they literally just rewrote this entire game in like 1-2 years tbh, it shows, and it’s terrible
@@Aidan0802 wow, that's pretty interesting to know. Have never seen anyone give feedback after being a tester in a Forza game. It's amazing they even tested this game because it seems like there was no testing phase! lol
@lilyeet1980 actually no, everyone in the program suggested some very good ideas and my only idea was to bring back pacific shipyards but the devs literally didn’t listen to anything or just did whatever they wanted, there was also no feedback from them on anything either. You should really blame the devs tbh, we playtested a game that just looked like a copy of fm7 and the game that they released did not look like anything we played. I’m pretty sure what they released was made in 2 years because the playtesting program ended about 1-2 years ago from when the game released a few weeks ago, this game honestly blows, literally the worst rated Forza ever and “the bar was set to high” for them?? There is so much missing, I feel like I got ripped off from my $100
The first thing I thought when I saw the title of the video was Jackie Stewart saying "slow in, fast out" and "don't apply the throttle until you're sure you won't have to lift off".
What a great video. I was very excited to watch this. Rossi is a fast driver and a great person. This was an exceptional short video demonstration on the hows and whys of race craft.
@@stampiboy1I've got an RTX 3050, 32GB of RAM, and an 8-core AMD CPU. I can barely get above 30FPS at 1080p with all graphics settings at minimum. The PC port really is terribly optimized, it's not just a spec thing. It's quite good on Xbox though. Just wish I didn't have to use a console to play it
@@stampiboy1 thanks for your input, really clever and intelligent. Anyway, it is undeniable that the game has some issues (both for XBox and PC), which don't depend on the specifications of your hardware
@@alessandrospinello1433 in 2023 the year with most inoptimazed games on PC I think Forza is one of the least bugy of them . Name a game of this scale that runs perfectly on PC? Spoilers Non Even king of kings Rockstar have one of the worst PC launches of every game they release at launch People need to stop nitpicking and reasile that they life in non perfect world Well you always sit and wait for gt7 come to PC 🤷♂️ Well see how it runs
I dont know wether turn10 will see this comment but can you please turn damage on and make S and A license only lobbies? Damage on will stop the dive bombers using you to turn corners(usually turn 1) and restricting drivers to need a high safety rating will improve the racing significantly
How about you fix the disaster you call an upgrade system before posting cute videos telling people that have been playing racing games for 20 years how to play racing games
It might seem simple but the racing line always confuses me in racing games. Do you brake when your car is OVER the red or BEFORE you hit it? Or is the idea that you want to slow down so the red coming up ahead of you turns blue?!
False advertising on what???? If you are literally this pissed off about the game just ask for a reimbursement. Plain and simple. False advertising is when a company misleads or flat out lies about the benefits of their product. Just because the game has a few bugs doesn't mean it's "false advertising" and their is absolutely no way in hell that any court of law would take that claim seriously, since the game did not mislead anyone. I actually just realized your the same idiot who commented no one cares what you think in another video. You seem to talk a lot for someone who says others shouldn't care about opinions. Difference between someone like me and you is that you care about graphics and upgrades as if that is going to make the game better. I'm not bragging its not my style but i need to say this to make a point. See the mustang in my profile pic?? That's mine that has actually been around a track multiple times in a variety of circumstances. I know how a car should feel on a track. To people who actually live this lifestyle, forza is more important in terms of feeling more than graphical fidelity (despite the game looking beautiful as it is) which this game hits the nail on the head. So if you want graphics and upgrades and useless shit play horizon and ask for a reimbursement. That's it
I wish they would change the driving line braking line so that when they are following another car it takes that car into account as well. The amount of times I get people saying 'I was watching my breaking line and it says I didn't need to brake.' and they use this as a reason why they hit my rear end of the car...who cares what your braking line is saying, if you see a car getting closer then you brake, you would do that irl on the road and the track, but not in Forza Motorsport it seems in my experience.
I got the game the other day, and after actually diving into the customization and car progression it feels real good to me. My ONLY gripe with it is that upgrade unlocks are tied to levels (ie: weight reduction is unlocked at level 20). I feel like if Turn10 ditches the level requirements and just have all the upgrades available at the start, people would warm up to it more. So u can put things like weight reduction at the start for example, you just need the car points and that's it.
good idea because I like the car points. I also enjoy that it makes you drive the cars stock for a bit. I just don’t know what the best way to level a car up is if there isn’t a playlist for it. Free play seems to give very little experience.
Spot on. That way, you have complete freedom to do whatever you want to your car, whenever you want to, but you still need to actually drive your car to do it.
It is difficult to extract usable knowledge from the current game state where fat slick tires with downforce allows you to drift on corners regularly, or braking hard mid corner helps you correct understeer.
Too bad the game is such a huge technical mess at the moment, it's undercooked. Many people wanted to love it, but turns out to be a poorly made title not worth the money and not showing 6 years' worth of work. Graphics are blurry (dashboard), Track sections are competely missing/disapearing like many other track objects, FPS all over the place, steering wheels settings are whacked and over complicated, sounds are not great, AI is a disaster constantly crashing, no way to adjust the seat up/down/forward/back, so many bad producer decisions...
The sounds are terrible compared to the horizon 5, the sound of the BMW M8 is the same as the Audi Rs7 and RS6. very bad forza motorsport, I don't understand why they didn't put the same sounds as in horizon. it's very disappointing
Make sure you don't drop a wheel of track in a rain race on the inside of a corner or you might get a time penalty from the we don't actually watch racing people at T10.
Get rid of Car Points or cut the time in half. 3-5 hours on one car to unlock it fully is ridiculous. This was never supposed to be an RPG yet somehow you took an idea from a genre unrelated and applied the grinding aspect of it ONLY to a racing sim... Who the F thought it was a good idea??? Do better guys. The bugs the glitches the frame rate issues, none of that compares to the garbage car leveling system.
Fix the game. It’s been a while and none of the patches solved any problem. The game still crashes frequently on console. Multiple freezes and infinite loading screens. Plus the lack of content and the stupidity of the penalty system. This game is a total mess.
Appeal from the turn 10 studio, make a tutorial video on how to race on the track in multiplayer, when everyone knocks you out and total chaos occurs. And this is in all races in multiplayer, make a training video- how to survive in such a situation, can you make armor for cars or mounted weapons? Now multiplayer forza is a destruction derby, not motorsport. And one more thing, please make a radar in multiplayer, people who want clean races do not understand where the cars are nearby, your arrows are not informative, make an analogue of the radar from the asset corsa, all people require it
For what its worth, i hang back just behind the pack deliberately on the first few corners and let everyone fuck each other up. After that its just a lottery.
How about you fix that terrible PC port before teaching people how to drive? Modern CPU's tend to have many cores, it's shameful that a port released in 2023 isn't utilizing them, bottlenecking your GPU despite running at 3% utilization on the CPU.
Showing an "expert" with a controller driving from an external view for a "sim racing" game :( Duh. We can see that Forza is not focused on true sim racing (once again). Make Forza Horizon a simcade, make Forza Motorsport a true sim, MSFS. I can see all iRacing, AMS2, ACC, AC, RRE, users shaking their heads in disbelief.
fix the game! I'm losing progress in my career, the game freezes! where are the new cars? where is alfa? players waiting for the first day patch, not these video.
yall should look to utilize the entire build, and not have progression bias whether you intended to or not... overly rotated AI burnt in at only 15,000 of one analyzed line, then cumbersome jerrymandering of possible lines... im too afraid to play the game because it would show liberally that im complicit with your pipeline plausibility... where are the scheduled updates!?!
Yep, Turn 10 are experts at 'cornering' their players into racing the same tracks over and over again because it doesn't save progress correctly. Class dismissed!
The best way you can help new drivers to learn those skills is actually place the driving line where the really fast rides will ride. You can see that Rossi ignores that line at some point on nearly every corner.
The racing line shown is decent for hotlapping/quali and generally learning the track, but during a race you'll usually never take this general line. Other racers or track conditions (rain, rubber, etc) will often times force you to take one of many, many lines. You should turn off the racing line anyway because it's just a distraction and prevents you from truly creating your own lines around tracks.
@@Starmast3rmusicI was suspecting that. Glad to see I'm not the only one having problems following those lines. (I sometimes think I could be a lot faster with those line assistance off) gonna try Playing the game with the lines of to see how it goes.
Great to see Rossi on here.
Brilliant racer, Top guy. 🙏
oh look a full time youtube e-beggar
where did the reply go? get a real job instead of making amateur videos in your mothers spare bedroom
Just add the bugatti chiron super sport on fh5
Buff the porsche carrera gt and nerf the op cars that are messing up multiplayer
game and its physics is great but cannot play this as its crashing all the time, please patch the PC version! this is ridiculous to release game in this state!
It's not just the PC, Xbox version is the same, but people conviniently aren't mention it. I just dropped the game until they release a patch to solve that, after have done the SAME race 4 times.
And Xbox version.
I have not crashed once, weird
I’ve only had one crash. Other than that I haven’t seen any big bugs/crashes
Only crashes ive seen involve those dirty ass drivers in multiplayer
Canada is proud of you Samantha!!! 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
O Canadá 🍁 e todos os players que partilham dessas paixão pela velocidade... Aqui do Brazil 🇧🇷 mandamos os Parabéns também 🎉
I remember the time back in Forza Motorsport 2005 you can train a drivatar. That drivatar will drive similarly to how the player drives. Ahh those were the days.
100%. I literally played FM1 2 days ago and showed this off on a live stream. I'm creating a video about all the epic missing things from previous Forza's and this was definitely one of them! FM1 even had 3x Forza aero rear wings to choose from on most vehicles. I feel like T10 did not pay homage to the older Forza's in FM8. It's almost like they completely forgot about what they did great in the older titles! :(
They did everything wrong lmao, I was in their dev testing program for this game for two years and they literally just rewrote this entire game in like 1-2 years tbh, it shows, and it’s terrible
@@Aidan0802 wow, that's pretty interesting to know. Have never seen anyone give feedback after being a tester in a Forza game. It's amazing they even tested this game because it seems like there was no testing phase! lol
@@DaddyCRUDE yeah exactly, they literally took everything we suggested and just threw it away
@lilyeet1980 actually no, everyone in the program suggested some very good ideas and my only idea was to bring back pacific shipyards but the devs literally didn’t listen to anything or just did whatever they wanted, there was also no feedback from them on anything either.
You should really blame the devs tbh, we playtested a game that just looked like a copy of fm7 and the game that they released did not look like anything we played. I’m pretty sure what they released was made in 2 years because the playtesting program ended about 1-2 years ago from when the game released a few weeks ago, this game honestly blows, literally the worst rated Forza ever and “the bar was set to high” for them?? There is so much missing, I feel like I got ripped off from my $100
The first thing I thought when I saw the title of the video was Jackie Stewart saying "slow in, fast out" and "don't apply the throttle until you're sure you won't have to lift off".
What a great video. I was very excited to watch this. Rossi is a fast driver and a great person. This was an exceptional short video demonstration on the hows and whys of race craft.
Yesssssssss, LOVE THIS! Rossi is an absolute legend and Samantha Tan is awesome!
But content basic primitive
How about a class on how to make a good PC port...
How about you build good PC ?
@@stampiboy1I've got an RTX 3050, 32GB of RAM, and an 8-core AMD CPU. I can barely get above 30FPS at 1080p with all graphics settings at minimum. The PC port really is terribly optimized, it's not just a spec thing. It's quite good on Xbox though. Just wish I didn't have to use a console to play it
@@stampiboy1 thanks for your input, really clever and intelligent. Anyway, it is undeniable that the game has some issues (both for XBox and PC), which don't depend on the specifications of your hardware
@@alessandrospinello1433 in 2023 the year with most inoptimazed games on PC I think Forza is one of the least bugy of them . Name a game of this scale that runs perfectly on PC? Spoilers
Non
Even king of kings Rockstar have one of the worst PC launches of every game they release at launch
People need to stop nitpicking and reasile that they life in non perfect world
Well you always sit and wait for gt7 come to PC 🤷♂️
Well see how it runs
I have 90-120fps on 1440p with balanced dlss on rtx 3070. Can't see your point here.
Wait M. Rossi is a real person?!
I need Rossi to give me lessons.
Shame they never mentioned braking marker boards, not that this track appeared to have many.
they never mentioned replay mode , garage and ingame pitstops running at 30fps either
😢
@@DrGreenThumbNZLthey dont. Get a better pc.
@@DrGreenThumbNZL got em
Thanks for mentioning it. I never knew they existed.😅
I dont know wether turn10 will see this comment but can you please turn damage on and make S and A license only lobbies? Damage on will stop the dive bombers using you to turn corners(usually turn 1) and restricting drivers to need a high safety rating will improve the racing significantly
How about you fix the disaster you call an upgrade system before posting cute videos telling people that have been playing racing games for 20 years how to play racing games
100% agree!
300%
400%
500%
Really helpful, well produced video! Thanks!
Rossiiiiiiiiiiii. What a legend, such a great guy in the community 👍
It might seem simple but the racing line always confuses me in racing games. Do you brake when your car is OVER the red or BEFORE you hit it? Or is the idea that you want to slow down so the red coming up ahead of you turns blue?!
Class in action should be a lawsuit against Turn10 for blatant false advertising
False advertising on what???? If you are literally this pissed off about the game just ask for a reimbursement. Plain and simple.
False advertising is when a company misleads or flat out lies about the benefits of their product. Just because the game has a few bugs doesn't mean it's "false advertising" and their is absolutely no way in hell that any court of law would take that claim seriously, since the game did not mislead anyone.
I actually just realized your the same idiot who commented no one cares what you think in another video. You seem to talk a lot for someone who says others shouldn't care about opinions.
Difference between someone like me and you is that you care about graphics and upgrades as if that is going to make the game better. I'm not bragging its not my style but i need to say this to make a point. See the mustang in my profile pic?? That's mine that has actually been around a track multiple times in a variety of circumstances. I know how a car should feel on a track. To people who actually live this lifestyle, forza is more important in terms of feeling more than graphical fidelity (despite the game looking beautiful as it is) which this game hits the nail on the head. So if you want graphics and upgrades and useless shit play horizon and ask for a reimbursement. That's it
I wish they would change the driving line braking line so that when they are following another car it takes that car into account as well. The amount of times I get people saying 'I was watching my breaking line and it says I didn't need to brake.' and they use this as a reason why they hit my rear end of the car...who cares what your braking line is saying, if you see a car getting closer then you brake, you would do that irl on the road and the track, but not in Forza Motorsport it seems in my experience.
more people should know this exists. It's awesome!
R.I.P. T10
2001 - 2023
I got the game the other day, and after actually diving into the customization and car progression it feels real good to me. My ONLY gripe with it is that upgrade unlocks are tied to levels (ie: weight reduction is unlocked at level 20). I feel like if Turn10 ditches the level requirements and just have all the upgrades available at the start, people would warm up to it more. So u can put things like weight reduction at the start for example, you just need the car points and that's it.
good idea because I like the car points. I also enjoy that it makes you drive the cars stock for a bit. I just don’t know what the best way to level a car up is if there isn’t a playlist for it. Free play seems to give very little experience.
I like the upgrade system, but i don't like that for everything is level 50, if it was all at level 25-30 would be better.
Spot on. That way, you have complete freedom to do whatever you want to your car, whenever you want to, but you still need to actually drive your car to do it.
I really hope in the future they fix the graphics and car sounds. They disrespected the LFA in this game.
Can you teach me to upgrade my car without causing the game to stuck on Applying Upgrades? Thanks!
Next vid should cover *racing etiquette, sharing the road, clean passes, avoiding wrecks, etc.*
It is difficult to extract usable knowledge from the current game state where fat slick tires with downforce allows you to drift on corners regularly, or braking hard mid corner helps you correct understeer.
Yes Rossi💪
💪
Thank goodness for licence tests in Gran Turismo
When’re we getting Fujimi Kaido back
GO ON SAAAAAAAAAAAAN
Samantha is the real deal.
Put the xcloud running on series x pleaseeeeeeee
What's the song at 3:19?
Forza Motorsport is 🔥
I remember when Forza had a green, yellow, and red racing line
I think they changed it to blue in Motorsport 6
@@Emo_Parker yeah I think that’s when they wanted to start changing things up
Go on Rossi mate 💪
Lad 💪
Volume on this video is too loud
I just want old school nascar cars bro
Don’t worry we’ll get a GAME IN 2025! 😢
i use the line to analyze whether i should be in the inside or outside of the line,
How can I get the game to run smoothly like that ? I get disappearing textures and all kinds of nonsense.
There are no leaderboards
love hearing from Rossi, and Samantha Tan is a top notch driver. Great seeing these two together in this vid!
Don't need to do this kind of movie.The players just want to know what you fix and add in the game.
Rossi is the bestest driver ever!!! Love the video🖤
If only they had something like licenses and taught you how to improve your sectors rather than just give you a sector score.
Turismo
Do a training video on racing etiquette
controller?
Love it! Keep it up!
❤❤❤ Samantha! STR FTW
First game ever I refunded. Unplayable with amd 6900xt. Don't know if nvidia works better
Update your graphics drivers.
@@BigShminguss I tried 23.10.1 but no difference.
Love the new physics and multiplayer. Good job Turn 10.
But the old car models....
Please do something about that
Fix your game graphics and visuals !!!!!!
1:53 it usually ends well tho
Too bad the game is such a huge technical mess at the moment, it's undercooked. Many people wanted to love it, but turns out to be a poorly made title not worth the money and not showing 6 years' worth of work. Graphics are blurry (dashboard), Track sections are competely missing/disapearing like many other track objects, FPS all over the place, steering wheels settings are whacked and over complicated, sounds are not great, AI is a disaster constantly crashing, no way to adjust the seat up/down/forward/back, so many bad producer decisions...
The sounds are terrible compared to the horizon 5, the sound of the BMW M8 is the same as the Audi Rs7 and RS6. very bad forza motorsport, I don't understand why they didn't put the same sounds as in horizon. it's very disappointing
Is it on xbox one?
The car sounds suck in forza such a let down
Great stuff!! Helpful indeed.
Rossi looks like that dude that can survive a car crash.
Please just fix the damn game.
It’s so bad it even got a furry complaining.
Make sure you don't drop a wheel of track in a rain race on the inside of a corner or you might get a time penalty from the we don't actually watch racing people at T10.
So helpful!
nice
Get rid of Car Points or cut the time in half. 3-5 hours on one car to unlock it fully is ridiculous. This was never supposed to be an RPG yet somehow you took an idea from a genre unrelated and applied the grinding aspect of it ONLY to a racing sim... Who the F thought it was a good idea??? Do better guys. The bugs the glitches the frame rate issues, none of that compares to the garbage car leveling system.
Fix the game. It’s been a while and none of the patches solved any problem. The game still crashes frequently on console. Multiple freezes and infinite loading screens. Plus the lack of content and the stupidity of the penalty system. This game is a total mess.
This was a helpful video; I’m looking forward to getting back to the track. Thanks.
Can we get a NASCAR DLC like in motorsport 6 and 7 please I really enjoy it
Appeal from the turn 10 studio, make a tutorial video on how to race on the track in multiplayer, when everyone knocks you out and total chaos occurs. And this is in all races in multiplayer, make a training video- how to survive in such a situation, can you make armor for cars or mounted weapons? Now multiplayer forza is a destruction derby, not motorsport.
And one more thing, please make a radar in multiplayer, people who want clean races do not understand where the cars are nearby, your arrows are not informative, make an analogue of the radar from the asset corsa, all people require it
For what its worth, i hang back just behind the pack deliberately on the first few corners and let everyone fuck each other up. After that its just a lottery.
Please add more graphics options to Xbox. Being forced to use motion blur is annoying.
Let us play the singleplayer offline! This is ridiculous
There's nothing wrong using a controller, i used to but calling yourself a sim racer i don't get it 🤷🏻♂️
Nice!
Why is one AI driver so much faster than the rest? It was the same in the Xbox One games and I hate it.
Car pass will add cars that We have never seen in Minecraft …😂😂
Exelente contenidoo
How about you fix that terrible PC port before teaching people how to drive?
Modern CPU's tend to have many cores, it's shameful that a port released in 2023 isn't utilizing them, bottlenecking your GPU despite running at 3% utilization on the CPU.
It's a blast on Xbox, but please fix the PC release, top priority, those poor guys can't play...
Can’t corner if the games f****d. Stop putting these videos out for a broken game and fix it first!
We want are money back
I m so in ❤ with this game i wanna marry it😂 but honestly so much fun in a racing game like never before 10/10🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Samantha Tan is gorgeous 😍
blud is down bad already
Down bad
@@timmyrandomvideos4375that's not down bad, it's just a compliment
Rossi? M. Rossi??? Did Forza just create a cyborg from their most notorious AI driver from their older games?
you should teach your players how to not slam into me intentionally just bc i passed them
Xbox make us a TV remote that works well.
Showing an "expert" with a controller driving from an external view for a "sim racing" game :( Duh. We can see that Forza is not focused on true sim racing (once again). Make Forza Horizon a simcade, make Forza Motorsport a true sim, MSFS. I can see all iRacing, AMS2, ACC, AC, RRE, users shaking their heads in disbelief.
When will you make cod Xbox exclusive PlayStation has spider man we can have one of the best game series and Minecraft needs to be exclusive
how about a Class in repairing your borked game lol
fix the game! I'm losing progress in my career, the game freezes! where are the new cars? where is alfa? players waiting for the first day patch, not these video.
Haha wonderful
He looks like Bobby hill
How about you corner the people responsible for the god awful lighting and just fire them? And maybe care about quality over quantity
That’s one freaky lookin fella
You think most gamers look like Brett Pete?
Pretty sure most of his weight comes from his head alone 😂
@@BusterChops1000 man spend more time with women in this video then you in your whole life
@@stampiboy1 Wdym? I spend time with your mom in bed while you’re asleep everyday.
Please focus on game development, do not engage in meaningless activities
😂😂😂😂😂; graphics update ? Update for cockpit cars ?
This game is awesome 💯😎 i got my Xbox series x day before release date
"Forza Motorsport driver & SIM racer" Are those not one in the same or is Microsoft not classifying this Forza as 'SIM material' 😅
My god she’s gorgeous
championship-winning professional racecar driver and a Forza Motorsport Autist*. There i fixed it for you. He’s got his Shrek impersonation nailed
Please never get rid of nascar. PS that girl is hot really hot.
yall should look to utilize the entire build, and not have progression bias whether you intended to or not... overly rotated AI burnt in at only 15,000 of one analyzed line, then cumbersome jerrymandering of possible lines... im too afraid to play the game because it would show liberally that im complicit with your pipeline plausibility... where are the scheduled updates!?!
Yep, Turn 10 are experts at 'cornering' their players into racing the same tracks over and over again because it doesn't save progress correctly.
Class dismissed!
Yep! I'm still stuck in practical performance and ive been playing since the 5th 😂. Moving the game to online only progression was a bad move...