I took a Glock course in Smyrna, GA where Shane Coley, Glock's shooting team captain was doing a demo. One of the guys in the class made a comment about all of the modifications Shane had on his comp guns. Shane proceeded to pull a brand new stock G17 out of its box (with the polymer iron sights) and then dumped a full mag into the 10 ring at 25 yards haha. Mods make shooting easier for good shooters, but they arent going to make you better just by installing them.
I'm really liking my Glock performance trigger with the Johnny Glock VEX trigger shoe. Best one I've used, but I do have to keep it clean and lubricated for best results. When it is clean and lubricated, I've never felt a better trigger in a Glock, and I do have a drawer full of other ones for what it's worth.
Going to second this guy on this, phenomenal combo but every 1K rounds or so it’s need a spray of break free into trigger housing or the reset will get a little iffy.
Brother your realize the johny glocks vex trigger shoe was made for the alpha competition timney trigger thats my trigger set up so yes i third this set up an agree buuuuuuuut it was meant for a alpha competition timney trigger i built my gen3 34 based off johny glocks knowledge regarding internal functions and tolerances so good on ya to seek information from credible sources like johny hes a glock wizard but yes vex trigger shoe was made for the timney trigger system so getcha a timney trigger struggle with the shoe pins get it off an slap that vex trigger SHOE on it an also 25 cent polish the brand new timney trigger system right out the box polish it get it nice an chrome once you get that shoe off an then slap on that vex trigger adjust it right to the brink of its adjustability an bam there ya go.
@@zelevenzelevenz9823 Johnny tested it with the GPT with excellent results and sells it specifically for the GPT now too. I tried a Timney first, but I had too many reliability problems with it and stuck it in a draw until the GPT came out. I do a little polishing, but otherwise leave it stock and that is the set up for me. I shoot tens of thousands of rounds per year and want full reliability without tinkering. I've found that keeping it clean and lubed and replacing springs at the appropriate intervals is working perfectly for the last 18,000 rounds, so I'm reluctant to change anything at this point.
Your so right the detail difference sure is the tinkering aspect and potential reliability issues and or frequented maintenance check ups. I guess I just enjoy having to pile on more things to check on an maintain haha. How I love to suffer 😂
i dont really like the timny havnt shot it but know how it works, spring tension works against each other, and its a no go for carry. Steel city arsenal have a great shaped shoe on a polished OEM bar, so you can pair with whatever springs (I went all oem, with a 6lb striker spring) for 1/3 the price. Put whatever connector in.. get what works not the hype
Ben, I genuinely appreciate your videos. Part of my morning coffee routine. What type Optic mounting plate are you running or have you directly milled the slide? Best.
I shoot a 47 in CO and the best thing I have had done was a really good stipple package with a mild undercut and I use the Glock 34 minus connector. Two secondary mods I like is the TTI slide release and the LWS grip plug ramp. I leave everything else alone.
Best Glock trigger is the Timney Alpha trigger. Best pull and you use the stock striker spring so no issues with light strikes. Glock Performance Trigger is meh because it's not as nice and you have to lube it.
I have the timney and after a while the reset sticks. I put Johnny Glock vex shoe and it’s great. One on my favs. Right now I am running a fully polished and filed the stamp imperfections off the Glock performance trigger. I will say it’s so nice as well. I am ordering the vex shoe fit it too just to try out.
@@HKGunPlay I had one in a Gen 4 for about 2 years maybe 10k rounds. I used the heavier spring and didn't have an issue. Just to be preventative I replaced the the trigger spring. At the time I couldn't buy a couple to have on hand from Timney - not sure if you can now - but when I emailed them about it they just sent me 2 at no charge. I also bought a couple Johnny GLock Timney sprinngs because they're available and I like the idea of having a few spares on hand. I'll have to take a look at his vex shoe.
Well said Chris. I dropped a Vogel comp trigger set in mine, $150 I can live with, that and I put in fiber optics. I dont compete but I love the G34, I dont even bring it out much cause if I do I wont shoot nothing else and I need time with my carry guns. BTW I wish these top guys would talk about the 10mm a little for self defense.
Nice! Except for the springs basically what I have now! I am keeping mine GSSF legal at the moment so GPT and factory springs. I do like the grip tape! I focus all my mental effort into practice as best I can with the limitations from professional and family commitments.
I too am a big fan of talon grips and I use the cheaper Vickers flat faced shoe. I prefer the flat faced trigger to the stock glock. Other than sights and I don't change anything else on my Glocks.
I shoot USPSA with a Glock in Carry Optics. It’s hard to bring myself to mod it at all because it’s going to just be a Glock no matter what you do to it. Mine is factory except for the dot, of course.
I just picked up a couple sets to try out, Usually shooting federal 124 and going to try 147 Any issues with federal and the lighter strike spring? Appreciate your time.
Personally for me on my G19, talon grips (granular), Agency trigger shoe, and Forward Controls Optic plate. It runs. 0 issues. Could I lighten the trigger? Sure, but the 5.5lb trigger isn't too bad once you get it broken in with dry/live fire. It's not for everyone, but it works for me and I get repeatable results.
I compete with a Glock 17 in both production and carry optics in USPSA. I prefer the feel of the factory shoe. TTI GM spring and connector kit for me works just fine with zero reliability issues.
I have a Glock45 gen5 that i put on glock performance trigger kit, swap out the shoe and the connector with the johnny glock and zev connector. Thats gives you a very nice trigger in my opinion.
I love my Glock 17 gen5 ive put the talon sand paper grip, with timney alpha trigger and the johnny glock trigger shoe, glock store pure tungsten guide rod with 11# recoil spring for my 147gn reloads, and a full brass plug for more weight in the grip, taran tactical innovations competition magwell and mag extensions,extended mag release and a holosun 507 comp in green to top it off its as close to the john wick 2 glock is can get without buying their slide and barrel.
I shot a glock 34, production for uspsa and stock service for idpa. I have a pair of vogel dynamic sites on mine and I've just really shinned up the trigger so it breaks nicely. I do also have the skate tap on my glocks definitely helps my grip.
Love Talon Granulate tape . I put that S#&t on everything. I leave all my striker triggers stock - I find they wear in after a few thousand rounds and all start to feel the same . Yes - striker springs wear out. Most folks don’t ever get there but if you shoot competition, once you start getting light strikes on good factory ammo - it’s time for a new striker assembly.
Hi Ben, really appreciate your videos! I've got a fair amount of trigger time & competition experience with 1911s, but I'm tired of the high maintenance & tinkering that's part of the 1911 experience. I want an extremely low maintenance & reliable pistol and I'm thinking of running a bone stock G19 Gen 5 in USPSA Production 15 division (I've tested the G34, but I like how the G19 points & balances better). Do you think I'll be leaving too much HF on the table with the G19 and should get a Walther PDP / Canik SFX / Shadow 2 instead?
I put a Zev slide and a kkm barrel with a Zev comp. Also put a SRO on it too. It's a lot of money but it's definitely worth it. The barrel and the comp is really not needed for me but it's just cool. The comp is aluminum and doesn't affect reliability with cheep range ammo.
I cut the medium backstrap just below the pin holes. I use the beavertail portion. Gives me less of a glock grip angle and I don't get slide bite. I can really get some good pressure leverage on the gun that way so it shoots really flat. I hate the ridged trigger like in a G19, I swap it with a smooth curve oem glock trigger. That is all I do
I like the Apex shoe but honestly, I don't think I shoot it any better than the OEM version. It IS more comfortable to shoot though. Add Proctor FO sights and I'm ready to go. I don't mess with the springs as I shoot a variety of primer brands and sometimes those can vary in cup hardness.
Joel Park mentions in another video that he installed the Apex "drop in" kit in Ben's G47. The Apex kit uses the standard Gen5 trigger bar. The kit does include an Apex connector but Joel doesn't mention using it.
What optic plates are you guys running? Just put a spare 507c on a MOS 19 and hand tightened the OEM plate and already stripped the OEM optic scews lol.
Hi Ben. Lately I have noticed you use Cz shadow 2s in a lot of your videos. You used to compete with tanfos. Any particular reason why you use shadows nowadays instead of tanfos? Thanks again for all that you share! More power and good health to you!
So I got a Gen5 G34, SRO, Apex trigger, bar and connector. TTI +6 magazine extensions. It has a real issue with 147’s at 950fps. I am sure mass, upward magazine pressure and powder puff loads are the issue. What # recoil spring should I replace the factory 17# spring with to make it run?
I overly moddified my glock to be a competition gen3 34 its honestly probably the heaviest sexiest glock you can lay your eyes on or hold :) reworked frame weights flared mag tungsten iron sights polished internals modded trigger with modded trigger shoe for the modded trigger its gorgeous 😇 i still have yet to see how heavy it is on a scale but definetly a monster
You don't need a $4000 gun to beat another $4000 gun, I outshoot $4000 guns all day long with my stock guns. Spend your money on some good classes, more ammo, and buy Ben's dry fire books!
Ask robert voguel all he does it put a grip slug weight with flared back scoop some griptape an reworks his internals to his tolerances an hes a beast works for him but he holds his glock like a silver back ape on crack cocain so his gun is super accurate with his grip thats probably more important then what hes shooting an id say ben would say the same thing its your technique understanding and skills that will allow them both to shoot whatever gun it is efficiently
@chefmatt6299 i get the impression that is the USPSA / IDPA concealed carry optic go to optic. Though he did have a quick video about a different optic the otherday that claims no glare. Hevis going to try it and do another video.
Before you mod with something as dubiously effective as a comp-do you have good sights, enough mags, enough texture in the grip, and a trigger that you like?
I carry a souped up glock. G45, Kkm barrel and comp, Triji RMR, stippled, nice trigger, surefire X300. If I have to lose one of those mods, the comp is going first. It is the last last thing on the list when it comes to vital mods. I cannot express to you strongly enough that you should prioritize your money elsewhere.
@@John.VanSwearingen I still need to get a slide cut and red dot. I like the stock trigger. Could use more mags and need an owb holster and owb mag holders.
I've gone with Dawson. I love them. They will rust if you touch them with sweaty hands and don't clean them. I just took off the rust with a brash brush and spray painted it with matte black enamel paint. Never rusted again
I think flat face shoes are overrated. Using overwatch's falx trigger with the curved rounded face shoe and knuckle-ing the trigger at the first joint rather than pulling with the pad makes the trigger feel lighter, and makes a stable shot even easier for me. Only other modifications is an NP3'ed OEM minus connector, apex rounded safety plunger, and a reduced strength safety plunger spring. Smooth, predictable, repeatable.
That's the deal, flat for finger pad and curve for joint crook. G47 w/ GPT, flat blade too far out. Awkward even on pad. GPT w/ Johnny Glock Vex curved shoe, perfect in joint hinge. Even okay on finger pad.
Can we somehow make this video a required watch for all people who have or are starting a public UA-cam channel? Step 1. Build credibility by being highly successful at the topic you are running your mouth about. 2. Keep is short and trim the fat. Get to the point, acknowledge it’s only your opinion, and move on. Thank you, Ben.
I dont know why people do this. Why compete with a duty gun. Usain bolt would probably still win alot of races in sneakers but he would be faster in race shoes. Buy a comp gun. Shadow 2 stock 2 rival-s pdp-s etc.
Because some of us carry duty guns for a living and lots of civilians carry duty guns as part of their EDC. It makes perfect sense for the armed American to train & compete with the gun (or a similar gun) they carry every day.
I took a Glock course in Smyrna, GA where Shane Coley, Glock's shooting team captain was doing a demo. One of the guys in the class made a comment about all of the modifications Shane had on his comp guns. Shane proceeded to pull a brand new stock G17 out of its box (with the polymer iron sights) and then dumped a full mag into the 10 ring at 25 yards haha.
Mods make shooting easier for good shooters, but they arent going to make you better just by installing them.
Indian not the arrow
I'm really liking my Glock performance trigger with the Johnny Glock VEX trigger shoe. Best one I've used, but I do have to keep it clean and lubricated for best results. When it is clean and lubricated, I've never felt a better trigger in a Glock, and I do have a drawer full of other ones for what it's worth.
Going to second this guy on this, phenomenal combo but every 1K rounds or so it’s need a spray of break free into trigger housing or the reset will get a little iffy.
Brother your realize the johny glocks vex trigger shoe was made for the alpha competition timney trigger thats my trigger set up so yes i third this set up an agree buuuuuuuut it was meant for a alpha competition timney trigger i built my gen3 34 based off johny glocks knowledge regarding internal functions and tolerances so good on ya to seek information from credible sources like johny hes a glock wizard but yes vex trigger shoe was made for the timney trigger system so getcha a timney trigger struggle with the shoe pins get it off an slap that vex trigger SHOE on it an also 25 cent polish the brand new timney trigger system right out the box polish it get it nice an chrome once you get that shoe off an then slap on that vex trigger adjust it right to the brink of its adjustability an bam there ya go.
@@zelevenzelevenz9823 Johnny tested it with the GPT with excellent results and sells it specifically for the GPT now too. I tried a Timney first, but I had too many reliability problems with it and stuck it in a draw until the GPT came out. I do a little polishing, but otherwise leave it stock and that is the set up for me. I shoot tens of thousands of rounds per year and want full reliability without tinkering. I've found that keeping it clean and lubed and replacing springs at the appropriate intervals is working perfectly for the last 18,000 rounds, so I'm reluctant to change anything at this point.
Your so right the detail difference sure is the tinkering aspect and potential reliability issues and or frequented maintenance check ups. I guess I just enjoy having to pile on more things to check on an maintain haha. How I love to suffer 😂
i dont really like the timny havnt shot it but know how it works, spring tension works against each other, and its a no go for carry. Steel city arsenal have a great shaped shoe on a polished OEM bar, so you can pair with whatever springs (I went all oem, with a 6lb striker spring) for 1/3 the price. Put whatever connector in.. get what works not the hype
I bought a Holosun 507 comp from the pro shop and have well pleased, good price quick shipping Thanks
Ben, I genuinely appreciate your videos. Part of my morning coffee routine. What type Optic mounting plate are you running or have you directly milled the slide? Best.
I shoot a 47 in CO and the best thing I have had done was a really good stipple package with a mild undercut and I use the Glock 34 minus connector. Two secondary mods I like is the TTI slide release and the LWS grip plug ramp. I leave everything else alone.
Best Glock trigger is the Timney Alpha trigger. Best pull and you use the stock striker spring so no issues with light strikes. Glock Performance Trigger is meh because it's not as nice and you have to lube it.
I confirm that. I use the stock striker pin too. I am really surprised only few people seems to even try them out.
I heard, read Overwatch Precision, OP has great triggers, parts. I like the FALX design.
I have the timney and after a while the reset sticks. I put Johnny Glock vex shoe and it’s great. One on my favs. Right now I am running a fully polished and filed the stamp imperfections off the Glock performance trigger. I will say it’s so nice as well. I am ordering the vex shoe fit it too just to try out.
@@HKGunPlay I had one in a Gen 4 for about 2 years maybe 10k rounds. I used the heavier spring and didn't have an issue. Just to be preventative I replaced the the trigger spring. At the time I couldn't buy a couple to have on hand from Timney - not sure if you can now - but when I emailed them about it they just sent me 2 at no charge. I also bought a couple Johnny GLock Timney sprinngs because they're available and I like the idea of having a few spares on hand. I'll have to take a look at his vex shoe.
Well said Chris. I dropped a Vogel comp trigger set in mine, $150 I can live with, that and I put in fiber optics. I dont compete but I love the G34, I dont even bring it out much cause if I do I wont shoot nothing else and I need time with my carry guns. BTW I wish these top guys would talk about the 10mm a little for self defense.
Glock performance trigger, tungsten guide rod, optic, light, and that’s it. No further mods necessary.
Ben took his performance triggers out.
What does the guide rod do?
@@nickallen8333 adds weight
@@nickallen8333nothing
@@Matthew-zb3iw But did the added weight equal better shooting?
Nice! Except for the springs basically what I have now! I am keeping mine GSSF legal at the moment so GPT and factory springs. I do like the grip tape! I focus all my mental effort into practice as best I can with the limitations from professional and family commitments.
I too am a big fan of talon grips and I use the cheaper Vickers flat faced shoe. I prefer the flat faced trigger to the stock glock. Other than sights and I don't change anything else on my Glocks.
I shoot USPSA with a Glock in Carry Optics. It’s hard to bring myself to mod it at all because it’s going to just be a Glock no matter what you do to it. Mine is factory except for the dot, of course.
I have been using the TTI springs for the last 10ish years. I have had the same experience. Solid piece of kit.
What springs are in the kit?
@@J.Young808 The basic package includes a striker, plunger and trigger return spring.
I just picked up a couple sets to try out,
Usually shooting federal
124 and going to try 147
Any issues with federal and the lighter strike spring? Appreciate your time.
Personally for me on my G19, talon grips (granular), Agency trigger shoe, and Forward Controls Optic plate. It runs. 0 issues. Could I lighten the trigger? Sure, but the 5.5lb trigger isn't too bad once you get it broken in with dry/live fire. It's not for everyone, but it works for me and I get repeatable results.
I compete with a Glock 17 in both production and carry optics in USPSA. I prefer the feel of the factory shoe. TTI GM spring and connector kit for me works just fine with zero reliability issues.
I have a Glock45 gen5 that i put on glock performance trigger kit, swap out the shoe and the connector with the johnny glock and zev connector. Thats gives you a very nice trigger in my opinion.
I love my Glock 17 gen5 ive put the talon sand paper grip, with timney alpha trigger and the johnny glock trigger shoe, glock store pure tungsten guide rod with 11# recoil spring for my 147gn reloads, and a full brass plug for more weight in the grip, taran tactical innovations competition magwell and mag extensions,extended mag release and a holosun 507 comp in green to top it off its as close to the john wick 2 glock is can get without buying their slide and barrel.
I shot a glock 34, production for uspsa and stock service for idpa. I have a pair of vogel dynamic sites on mine and I've just really shinned up the trigger so it breaks nicely. I do also have the skate tap on my glocks definitely helps my grip.
Love Talon Granulate tape . I put that S#&t on everything. I leave all my striker triggers stock - I find they wear in after a few thousand rounds and all start to feel the same . Yes - striker springs wear out. Most folks don’t ever get there but if you shoot competition, once you start getting light strikes on good factory ammo - it’s time for a new striker assembly.
reducing the recoil spring by 2-3lbs cut my group sizes substantially.
Hi Ben, really appreciate your videos! I've got a fair amount of trigger time & competition experience with 1911s, but I'm tired of the high maintenance & tinkering that's part of the 1911 experience. I want an extremely low maintenance & reliable pistol and I'm thinking of running a bone stock G19 Gen 5 in USPSA Production 15 division (I've tested the G34, but I like how the G19 points & balances better). Do you think I'll be leaving too much HF on the table with the G19 and should get a Walther PDP / Canik SFX / Shadow 2 instead?
Thanks
I put a Zev slide and a kkm barrel with a Zev comp. Also put a SRO on it too. It's a lot of money but it's definitely worth it. The barrel and the comp is really not needed for me but it's just cool. The comp is aluminum and doesn't affect reliability with cheep range ammo.
I cut the medium backstrap just below the pin holes. I use the beavertail portion. Gives me less of a glock grip angle and I don't get slide bite. I can really get some good pressure leverage on the gun that way so it shoots really flat. I hate the ridged trigger like in a G19, I swap it with a smooth curve oem glock trigger. That is all I do
I like the Apex shoe but honestly, I don't think I shoot it any better than the OEM version. It IS more comfortable to shoot though. Add Proctor FO sights and I'm ready to go. I don't mess with the springs as I shoot a variety of primer brands and sometimes those can vary in cup hardness.
Are you just changing the shoe or the whole trigger assembly. Thx !
Joel Park mentions in another video that he installed the Apex "drop in" kit in Ben's G47. The Apex kit uses the standard Gen5 trigger bar. The kit does include an Apex connector but Joel doesn't mention using it.
Flat shoe & Flitz. This is the way.
I just dot to see the new Trigger tech Glock trigger best I have ever pressed!
What optic plates are you guys running? Just put a spare 507c on a MOS 19 and hand tightened the OEM plate and already stripped the OEM optic scews lol.
Hi Ben. Lately I have noticed you use Cz shadow 2s in a lot of your videos. You used to compete with tanfos. Any particular reason why you use shadows nowadays instead of tanfos? Thanks again for all that you share! More power and good health to you!
So I got a Gen5 G34, SRO, Apex trigger, bar and connector. TTI +6 magazine extensions. It has a real issue with 147’s at 950fps. I am sure mass, upward magazine pressure and powder puff loads are the issue. What # recoil spring should I replace the factory 17# spring with to make it run?
I overly moddified my glock to be a competition gen3 34 its honestly probably the heaviest sexiest glock you can lay your eyes on or hold :) reworked frame weights flared mag tungsten iron sights polished internals modded trigger with modded trigger shoe for the modded trigger its gorgeous 😇 i still have yet to see how heavy it is on a scale but definetly a monster
You don't need a $4000 gun to beat another $4000 gun, I outshoot $4000 guns all day long with my stock guns. Spend your money on some good classes, more ammo, and buy Ben's dry fire books!
ALL true, but if you have the means, WHY NOT!? 😎 and hell yes I'll be the old guy driving a Corvette! 🤣
I think the question is are you going to shoot better with the 4k gun than you shoot with the stock gun???
doubt it
@@poidog22 well, according Ben... the answer is yes.
@@MrZola1234 speak for yourself brother. You’re a grown man.
My apex trigger kits in my daggers are single stage
Ben/Joel run stock guide rods, right?
I like Glock Store guide rods; stainless steel versions.
why not use a timney trigger why use the springs swap.
Does adding weight with guide rods and grip plugs feel worthwhile to you?
Ask robert voguel all he does it put a grip slug weight with flared back scoop some griptape an reworks his internals to his tolerances an hes a beast works for him but he holds his glock like a silver back ape on crack cocain so his gun is super accurate with his grip thats probably more important then what hes shooting an id say ben would say the same thing its your technique understanding and skills that will allow them both to shoot whatever gun it is efficiently
For competition the timney is hard to beat. Better than the apex
How about the optic, that's a huge Mod, what would you go with????
Check out his video with a title similar to “SRO Dead to Me”-he likes the Holosun 507 Comp.
@chefmatt6299 i get the impression that is the USPSA / IDPA concealed carry optic go to optic.
Though he did have a quick video about a different optic the otherday that claims no glare. Hevis going to try it and do another video.
Aimpoint ACRO2 or HoloSun solar powered green dot.
Where do you buy the taran springs
What about compensators on threaded barrels, for say a glock 19? That's what I currently have and the next (first) mod I'm looking at
Before you mod with something as dubiously effective as a comp-do you have good sights, enough mags, enough texture in the grip, and a trigger that you like?
I carry a souped up glock. G45, Kkm barrel and comp, Triji RMR, stippled, nice trigger, surefire X300.
If I have to lose one of those mods, the comp is going first. It is the last last thing on the list when it comes to vital mods.
I cannot express to you strongly enough that you should prioritize your money elsewhere.
counterpoint to the other replies: comps are cool, do what you want
Compensator, the guntubeshill hype of the past 18 mos or so.
It's not a rifle.
@@John.VanSwearingen I still need to get a slide cut and red dot. I like the stock trigger. Could use more mags and need an owb holster and owb mag holders.
What are the best or least problematic replacement metal sights to switch out the factory sights?
Competition or duty/carry use?
I installed a set of Ameriglo on my EDC. It was toss up between Ameriglo and Trijicon for me.
I've gone with Dawson. I love them. They will rust if you touch them with sweaty hands and don't clean them. I just took off the rust with a brash brush and spray painted it with matte black enamel paint. Never rusted again
Heinie Straight 8s are good.
@@John.VanSwearingen duty
0:02 port you Glocks, cause who doesn’t want return to zero sooner than later .
People who want to be competitive and stay out of open division
Not neccessary
@@boomee78of Cours it not necessary, but why not.
@@CA.0verview Because you'll be bumped into Open division if you're shooting USPSA and you won't be competitive there with a ported G34. Capisci?
Mill the gun for your red dot.
I think flat face shoes are overrated. Using overwatch's falx trigger with the curved rounded face shoe and knuckle-ing the trigger at the first joint rather than pulling with the pad makes the trigger feel lighter, and makes a stable shot even easier for me.
Only other modifications is an NP3'ed OEM minus connector, apex rounded safety plunger, and a reduced strength safety plunger spring. Smooth, predictable, repeatable.
That's the deal, flat for finger pad and curve for joint crook.
G47 w/ GPT, flat blade too far out. Awkward even on pad.
GPT w/ Johnny Glock Vex curved shoe, perfect in joint hinge. Even okay on finger pad.
I’ll do you one better dude I’m gonna post this on UA-cam and not email you back
Lmaoooooo
Can we somehow make this video a required watch for all people who have or are starting a public UA-cam channel? Step 1. Build credibility by being highly successful at the topic you are running your mouth about. 2. Keep is short and trim the fat. Get to the point, acknowledge it’s only your opinion, and move on.
Thank you, Ben.
I dont know why people do this. Why compete with a duty gun. Usain bolt would probably still win alot of races in sneakers but he would be faster in race shoes. Buy a comp gun. Shadow 2 stock 2 rival-s pdp-s etc.
Duty guns run fine for competition, not sure why you believe otherwise. Unless arguing a new gun buy to your wife, maybe.
Because some of us carry duty guns for a living and lots of civilians carry duty guns as part of their EDC. It makes perfect sense for the armed American to train & compete with the gun (or a similar gun) they carry every day.
@BenStoeger187 Thank you for answering my email questions! Very helpful!