im not even a bills fan and im excited for the stadium to open, i mean having and keeping all the memories that you have in the old building and you move it over to the new site, and you have the fan experience of seeing all the memories and pictures of 50 years of games that is awesome. the future of NFL stadiums are in full force with this one and the titans, the chargers and the rams opened last year with the raiders. the bears have new concepts of what they wanna do, i live in Jacksonville and the jags are about to start building their overhead look in 2 years. The people, the concepts and the builders and just i love these videos idc who the team is,
Simply epic .... watching the stadium emerge from a design and a shovel in the ground makes you appreciate the work and efforts that go into such a project. Often overlooked with such a mammoth undertaking.
Torontonian here. Really excited about this project for our southern neighbours and western New Yorkers. It's going to be epic. Beautiful design! Can't wait to see the finished product. Go Bills!
The new Stadium looks and sounds amazing from the models. It makes sense too, how the IT buildings and facilities are all laid out. The video really gives the Bills Fans a real good explanation of the design and details without dumbing it down or inflating it's sense of urgency. Terry Pegula is the right owner who came along when the organization needed him.
I'm from Brazil and the Bills are my favorite football team. I hope one day to see the Bills playing at Highmark Stadium, remembering the great moments of the 90s, when Jim Kelly almost won the Super Bowl. It's Josh Allen's time to bring that trophy. Go Bills
I'm a Steelers fan, but I have always admired the Bills mafia for their passion, and the Bills are an exciting team to watch, and I feel for the fans that have been waiting for the Bills to win a super bowl. But, since the Steelers are still in the thick of it I will still be rooting for them, but hopefully the Bills can eventually get over the hump sometime soon. And, it's good to see that the new stadium isn't a dome, since the weather is such a factor in home games late in the season, unlike Cleveland who's building a dome, lol.
Those of us who've been a party to multiple 10 million square feet casinos in Macau can still appreciate the professionalism employed in developing this 1.3 million square feet stadium.
This is going to be the coolest, most high tech stadium in the NFL! I'm blown away at the technology involved in the roof and field. Its always amazing to see the continued progress on this. Can't wait to watch a game from there when its complete! Go Bills! ❤💙❤💙
Oh, or maybe the house where Allen loses in the AFC championship for the rest of his career! A little long-winded, but you Bills fans don't mind running your mouths.
As a Chiefs fan. This will be a very high standard and quality stadium. This stadium has some things I have never thought of in terms of little quality of life touches.
I love seeing this. Especially since I have to work with my BIM team when managing pharma construction projects and seeing how an arena AEC project is similar and different from pharma construction.
I’m from Florida and went to my first bills game last year vs the cowboys and let me tell you . Traffic was insane. I hope something gets don’t about that wow. Other then that had a GREAT TIME AND GO BILLS
This will be an amazing stadium 🏟️ and the pride of the Buffalo 🦬 Bills.Great insight into what goes into building such an amazing venue and the pride that everyone working on it has!!!🏈🏈🏈
As a40 year long Raiders fan, I'd love to see the Bills win a Superbowl in their current stadium and close it out that way. Those fans deserve it. They are as loyal as there are fans in the NFL. Would have been cool to see Jim Kelly win at least one. They just got done beating the Ravens. So we'll see. God bless.
I was saying the same thing this year they had to hire people in the neighborhood to help clean the snow with a roof. You can use it all year long. Some owners don't have any common sense.
@@antoinesmith3499 especially when half of the project is paid by taxpayers. You would think they would want more use out of it besides 8 or 9 home games that take place a year. That alone can not bring much to the city to make it worth it.
@@seajaemusicdj3815 eh.. in the end it's just another case of the taxpayer subsidizing the rich. The NFL has more than enough money to build their stadiums. They have money coming in at so many different angles.
What does BILLS Mafia want for Christmas? a 3D holographic Buffalo herd similar to the Panther in Carolina. Fine, this is a wish list. You've got to admit they're not bad ideas.
Dude said a construction site is the closest thing to war? You've got to be kidding me! No sir it sure didn't sound cool like you thought it would. Lol it sounded pretty dumb
It's like they've never seen a stadium being built before. As long as the fans don't have to show up with their own shovels in order to sit that will be an improvement
Steelers fan here! The Bills Mafia definitely deserve this place! It’s gonna be a gem of a stadium! A job well done by the designers and construction workers!
wish they had a roof on it, could maybe have had AMA supercross come to town. retractable so then could have it open when want. The cold temps screwed us from getting that 30+ points to have had 9 games 30+.... but hey that's Buffalo
Being a Pittsburgher, I can’t speak to the transition from Three Rivers to Acrisure Stadium as I was too young to understand it. I was 8, but I can speak to the transition from Mellon Arena to PPG Paints Arena. PPG is nice and was long overdue, but games at Mellon Arena felt like a hockey game and not an entertainment center. You felt closer to the ice and everything. Yeah it was crammed, but it felt gritty at times. So I’m sure some Buffalo fans will feel the same way going from Ralph Wilson to the new stadium.
As a kid, my father and brother used to enjoy freezing our asses off in the old War Memorial Stadium. That's how it's done in Buffalo (and Green Bay too!). GO BILLS !
I am hoping the Bills will have something special at the new stadium that Bills Mafia from everywhere can be part of....a fan brick walkway, a fan "name" wall inside the stadium, our names in a digital directory, or a data disk with our names included for a stadium time capsule.
MOST IMPORTANT! WE NEED TO BREAK THE CURSE OF THE VERY FIRST PLAY IN RICH STADIUM IN 1973 it was made by the Washington Redskins. That cursed 102 yard kickoff return against the Bills. It was preseason, but it was the very first play. I was there live, I would love to attend the first play at the new stadium and see the curse removed with a Bills kickoff return for a TD! At least OJ ran for 2k in 1973! Last home game of the season in the snow he ran for 219 against the Patriots which setup his 200 yard game against the Jets for his 2 k season. Only player ever to do it in 14 games. He was the 1st RB ever to run for 200+ yards a game two games in a row. No cheer was ever louder than 80,020 screaming JUUUUIIIICCCEEEEEEE!!! This new stadium with way less fans looks like it will be ever louder! Great work all this place is looking amazing. Go Bills!
I can’t wait for Thee, best owner in the Shiela Ford Hemp to bring the bots and some Detroit Ball to Buffalo. 😎👍 When she brings them we’ll come with them to check out the new house of The Bills Mafia. You got us last week. We’re happy to come return the favor. Seriously looks like a great new home. 🤔 Maybe the NFL will give us Lions at Bills for the first Monday night game 😛. One Pride.
I hope people realize, they are building this stadium for and because of Josh Allen! I don’t think this gets done without him. At least not as soon as it has. Thank God for sending us Josh Allen 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Buffalo is a strange place, lmao. Thank you for a tax bill, Josh Allen. What do you think a stadium will do for your city or team?? Some short term jobs. That's it. There will never be an SB in Buffalo, you ensured that with the open air stadium. It doesn't make the Bills any better, and it doesn't make the chiefs worse. God gave you a good QB who can't get past the best QB and a taxpayer funded stadium? I'd say God isn't very fond of Buffalo.
@@stormageddon248do you remember the Viking stadium roof collapse? A region with that much snow can’t handle a roof with that much of a span with a high snow load without a couple more billions
@@stormageddon248 the tax dollars New York makes form the players alone will pay for the stadium in 20 years. All this nonsense you're spewing is purely based in ignorance and your emotional ineptitude.
@@xbreachedthetosx7591 I agree. People claim having an NFL helps the city's economy but how much does just the 8 or 9 home games a year bring in. Books could be written on better ways to spend 800 million dollars of taxpayer money. Just another story of the little guys subsidizing the rich. They have money to pay for it on their own. The NFL and their teams have money coming in on so many different angles. I don't know but imagine what a school or whatever could do with 800 million. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it is a good investment but I haven't been convinced yet.
Nice stadium for fans. Does it bother you that we all get to hit potholes on the way to every game? This new stadium is like putting new carpet in a house with a leaking roof. NY needs to get its act together
very well team thats much better it only took 9 times to get the scene right this time much better now go to your trailers and sleep it off well pick up were we left off tomorrow
were on to your eye contacts,body language and movements, reading us like a book, its time we started playing your games back to u with a slight twist to it
Will there be a "final" tour time for the "Ralph" / Rich stadium & new tours of the new HIGH MARK stadium. Please allow all kinds of selfie sticks for videos. The BILLS have to make a little money if they open up tours to the old & new stadium. GO BILLS
Can't wait for the new stadium! Allen has changed this team around.. Pegula gotta learn to stop trading away sabres elite.. So maybe hockey can evolve as well....
Owner of the Bills is worth 7 BILLION DOLLARS yet the taxpayers of New York are funding the majority of this construction AND will be responsible for the maintenance. All to make the rich, richer.
I think they’re building the exact same stadium for Northwestern U. Similar canopy. Similar seating. Same club feel. Cheaper exterior, though. Same interior decor, just with purple accents instead of blue. Same stadium, different skin.
I don't live in the Buffalo Area. I live approximately 65 Miles NW of Philly. ONE Question: Is this going to be a Domed Stadium? Because if not; you guys royally messed up.
Not really. They want to keep their advantage. Playing teams like Miami in December at home is a huge advantage. I am a NE fan check out Payton Mannings numbers in NE in the cold. They are not good. I hate dome stadiums. You don’t have one and it’s for a good reason, advantage against warm weather and dome teams.
NO ROOF in Buffalo ?$ Cheap and Greet $$ Its a huge SNOWBELT area that gets tons of snow when 20 miles away is dry ! Not paying to freeze or get stuck in a snowstorm coming or going ! 😮
Hey! I have been welding and building some of the steel components for the stadium. It's really cool to see my work installed in the stadium
Thank you for real GRASS!
From a Western Manitoba fan from Canada. The Bill's have always been my NFL team since I was a kid. GO BILL'S!
You'll have to come out for a game or two or three when it's ready for football!! BTW...I love Canada! GO BILLS!!
im not even a bills fan and im excited for the stadium to open, i mean having and keeping all the memories that you have in the old building and you move it over to the new site, and you have the fan experience of seeing all the memories and pictures of 50 years of games that is awesome. the future of NFL stadiums are in full force with this one and the titans, the chargers and the rams opened last year with the raiders. the bears have new concepts of what they wanna do, i live in Jacksonville and the jags are about to start building their overhead look in 2 years. The people, the concepts and the builders and just i love these videos idc who the team is,
Simply epic .... watching the stadium emerge from a design and a shovel in the ground makes you appreciate the work and efforts that go into such a project. Often overlooked with such a mammoth undertaking.
Torontonian here. Really excited about this project for our southern neighbours and western New Yorkers. It's going to be epic. Beautiful design! Can't wait to see the finished product. Go Bills!
I love Toronto!! You'll have to watch some games in the new stadium! GO Argonauts! GO BILLS!
The new Stadium looks and sounds amazing from the models. It makes sense too, how the IT buildings and facilities are all laid out. The video really gives the Bills Fans a real good explanation of the design and details without dumbing it down or inflating it's sense of urgency. Terry Pegula is the right owner who came along when the organization needed him.
I'm from Brazil and the Bills are my favorite football team. I hope one day to see the Bills playing at Highmark Stadium, remembering the great moments of the 90s, when Jim Kelly almost won the Super Bowl. It's Josh Allen's time to bring that trophy. Go Bills
I'm a Steelers fan, but I have always admired the Bills mafia for their passion, and the Bills are an exciting team to watch, and I feel for the fans that have been waiting for the Bills to win a super bowl. But, since the Steelers are still in the thick of it I will still be rooting for them, but hopefully the Bills can eventually get over the hump sometime soon. And, it's good to see that the new stadium isn't a dome, since the weather is such a factor in home games late in the season, unlike Cleveland who's building a dome, lol.
I will be there with my son Day 1. Looking forward to cheering for our beloved bills in the house that Allen Built.
Yeah man! Go Buffs Go! 🦬🦬🦬🦬 🏈
You Bills fan’s definitely deserve a stadium of the caliber
You mean the house that taxpayers built.
I'm going the miss the Ralph so much, but I couldnt be more excited for the new stadium. Go Bills!
Those of us who've been a party to multiple 10 million square feet casinos in Macau can still appreciate the professionalism employed in developing this 1.3 million square feet stadium.
Patriots fan here. The whole wind thing is beyond cool
Yeah! When it's built, I think I'll drive out and see a game.
This is going to be the coolest, most high tech stadium in the NFL! I'm blown away at the technology involved in the roof and field. Its always amazing to see the continued progress on this. Can't wait to watch a game from there when its complete! Go Bills! ❤💙❤💙
its crazy i see this grow more and more everyday, go bills!
Eagles fan here....this is great.
LETS GO BUFFALO, LETS GO BUFFALO, LETS GO BUFFALO
They’ll call this the House that Allen Built
More like the taxpayers of New York.
Nah, I'll be the house that Mahomes owns.
Oh, or maybe the house where Allen loses in the AFC championship for the rest of his career! A little long-winded, but you Bills fans don't mind running your mouths.
@@stormageddon248still coping after that loss huh? Your life must be miserable 😂
The House that Flutie built*
As a Chiefs fan. This will be a very high standard and quality stadium. This stadium has some things I have never thought of in terms of little quality of life touches.
This amazing. Worth the 24hours of travel time from Australia. The Ralph has been amazing the 7 times I have been there. This is going to be insane.
as a niner fan, yall got the best stadium ever
I'm not crying, you're crying.
I’m not a Bills fan but this is cool. Nice work! Epic!
I love seeing this. Especially since I have to work with my BIM team when managing pharma construction projects and seeing how an arena AEC project is similar and different from pharma construction.
Love the engineering!!!
I’m from Florida and went to my first bills game last year vs the cowboys and let me tell you . Traffic was insane. I hope something gets don’t about that wow. Other then that had a GREAT TIME AND GO BILLS
it’s the same thing at every NE game and it’s never been addressed. It comes with attending a game and we just except this.
Where's the mic'd up admin??
Let’s go Bills!!!! Terry is hell of a guy!! Buffalo needed him
This will be an amazing stadium 🏟️ and the pride of the Buffalo 🦬 Bills.Great insight into what goes into building such an amazing venue and the pride that everyone working on it has!!!🏈🏈🏈
Highmark Stadium, the future of my grandson after 2026, Wow & God bless!
As a40 year long Raiders fan, I'd love to see the Bills win a Superbowl in their current stadium and close it out that way. Those fans deserve it. They are as loyal as there are fans in the NFL. Would have been cool to see Jim Kelly win at least one. They just got done beating the Ravens. So we'll see. God bless.
What an owner, thats rare.
Building a new stadium in that area with no roof is crazy
I was saying the same thing this year they had to hire people in the neighborhood to help clean the snow with a roof. You can use it all year long. Some owners don't have any common sense.
@@antoinesmith3499 especially when half of the project is paid by taxpayers. You would think they would want more use out of it besides 8 or 9 home games that take place a year. That alone can not bring much to the city to make it worth it.
@@teddine7366I came here to make the same reply you did. There is no accountability When it comes to taxpayer funds
@@teddine7366 agree.. they could use it for many other events over the winter
@@seajaemusicdj3815 eh.. in the end it's just another case of the taxpayer subsidizing the rich. The NFL has more than enough money to build their stadiums. They have money coming in at so many different angles.
What does BILLS Mafia want for Christmas? a 3D holographic Buffalo herd similar to the Panther in Carolina.
Fine, this is a wish list. You've got to admit they're not bad ideas.
Pete Guelli, nice to see he is part of that team. Did not know he was still with the Bills as COO.
I So Excited For Episode 4
nice! Love watching inside looks like this
I saw the stadium it looks so good!
Dude said a construction site is the closest thing to war? You've got to be kidding me! No sir it sure didn't sound cool like you thought it would. Lol it sounded pretty dumb
i like it keep the foundacions of the current stadium but a more modern version of it especially the technology on melting the ice which is super cool
Phenomenal! Congratulations
I can't wait
Making a building just for IT, thats expandable is probably the greatest decision made during the design process.
It's like they've never seen a stadium being built before. As long as the fans don't have to show up with their own shovels in order to sit that will be an improvement
I can't wait to take my daughter to the first game played here.
love it
13:14 the Hawk Tuah ‘24 on the window of the excavator 🤣
Crane but still lol. That’s hilarious. Great catch.
Can't wait to see it. Wish it was on the waterfront.
If I had a wish,it wouldn’t be waterfront
Steelers fan here! The Bills Mafia definitely deserve this place! It’s gonna be a gem of a stadium! A job well done by the designers and construction workers!
Stop fishing for praise, Steelgirls suqq
@@Steve-cm2ys he's fishing for praise because he's giving props to a good looking stadium? wow lmao
@@dajuanvariste4751 That's not the reason and if you can't see it, too bad.
No more snowy field? I love those games.
Gorgeous 😊
Allen Stadium. What can y'all do without him the legend and y'all hearing it from a falcons fan 😂
13:12 Did anyone else notice the Hawk Tuah 2024 Spit on That Thang Sticker on the crane?
wish they had a roof on it, could maybe have had AMA supercross come to town. retractable so then could have it open when want. The cold temps screwed us from getting that 30+ points to have had 9 games 30+.... but hey that's Buffalo
I think they want to keep their advantage, especially when playing warm weather teams.
Being a Pittsburgher, I can’t speak to the transition from Three Rivers to Acrisure Stadium as I was too young to understand it. I was 8, but I can speak to the transition from Mellon Arena to PPG Paints Arena. PPG is nice and was long overdue, but games at Mellon Arena felt like a hockey game and not an entertainment center. You felt closer to the ice and everything. Yeah it was crammed, but it felt gritty at times. So I’m sure some Buffalo fans will feel the same way going from Ralph Wilson to the new stadium.
Why is Terry not wearing a hard hat?!?
Wear your PPE, Terry. I promise every one of those workers noticed.
As a kid, my father and brother used to enjoy freezing our asses off in the old War Memorial Stadium. That's how it's done in Buffalo (and Green Bay too!). GO BILLS !
I somehow was able to watch this last night at the same time.
Thank you
Go Bills!
I am hoping the Bills will have something special at the new stadium that Bills Mafia from everywhere can be part of....a fan brick walkway, a fan "name" wall inside the stadium, our names in a digital directory, or a data disk with our names included for a stadium time capsule.
I still don't understand why they didn't put in 20K more seats. It just seems like a low capacity stadium for the most popular sport in North America.
The Main Talk is Keeping the Fans Warm when it’s Cold, How will the Stadium Dissipate heat when the weather is hot??
MOST IMPORTANT! WE NEED TO BREAK THE CURSE OF THE VERY FIRST PLAY IN RICH STADIUM IN 1973 it was made by the Washington Redskins. That cursed 102 yard kickoff return against the Bills. It was preseason, but it was the very first play. I was there live, I would love to attend the first play at the new stadium and see the curse removed with a Bills kickoff return for a TD! At least OJ ran for 2k in 1973! Last home game of the season in the snow he ran for 219 against the Patriots which setup his 200 yard game against the Jets for his 2 k season. Only player ever to do it in 14 games. He was the 1st RB ever to run for 200+ yards a game two games in a row. No cheer was ever louder than 80,020 screaming JUUUUIIIICCCEEEEEEE!!! This new stadium with way less fans looks like it will be ever louder! Great work all this place is looking amazing. Go Bills!
13:12 Hawk Tuah 2024 decal on the crane. hahahahaha
football is played outside, football is played on natural grass, thats right
Closest thing to war is a construction site. I never heard that before but after I think about it, it’s true
I can’t wait for Thee, best owner in the Shiela Ford Hemp to bring the bots and some Detroit Ball to Buffalo. 😎👍 When she brings them we’ll come with them to check out the new house of The Bills Mafia. You got us last week. We’re happy to come return the favor. Seriously looks like a great new home. 🤔 Maybe the NFL will give us Lions at Bills for the first Monday night game 😛. One Pride.
I hope people realize, they are building this stadium for and because of Josh Allen! I don’t think this gets done without him. At least not as soon as it has. Thank God for sending us Josh Allen 🙏🏻🙏🏻
No… it’s being built because you and I paid for it… not the BILLION dollar owner or league.
Buffalo is a strange place, lmao. Thank you for a tax bill, Josh Allen. What do you think a stadium will do for your city or team?? Some short term jobs. That's it. There will never be an SB in Buffalo, you ensured that with the open air stadium. It doesn't make the Bills any better, and it doesn't make the chiefs worse. God gave you a good QB who can't get past the best QB and a taxpayer funded stadium? I'd say God isn't very fond of Buffalo.
@@stormageddon248do you remember the Viking stadium roof collapse? A region with that much snow can’t handle a roof with that much of a span with a high snow load without a couple more billions
@@stormageddon248 the tax dollars New York makes form the players alone will pay for the stadium in 20 years. All this nonsense you're spewing is purely based in ignorance and your emotional ineptitude.
@@xbreachedthetosx7591 I agree. People claim having an NFL helps the city's economy but how much does just the 8 or 9 home games a year bring in. Books could be written on better ways to spend 800 million dollars of taxpayer money. Just another story of the little guys subsidizing the rich. They have money to pay for it on their own. The NFL and their teams have money coming in on so many different angles. I don't know but imagine what a school or whatever could do with 800 million. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it is a good investment but I haven't been convinced yet.
This video gave me goosebumps! Where I can apply to help build this stadium? I just live across the lake in Toronto.
it's amazing that buffalo is building their new home, meanwhile the jets have no foreseeable way out of metlife.
Someone send this video to the Browns, so they go natural grass with their new stadium.
Let's call them Orchard Park Bills ?!!!
Why not build a dome/roof?
Nice stadium for fans. Does it bother you that we all get to hit potholes on the way to every game? This new stadium is like putting new carpet in a house with a leaking roof. NY needs to get its act together
very well team thats much better it only took 9 times to get the scene right this time much better now go to your trailers and sleep it off well pick up were we left off tomorrow
were on to your eye contacts,body language and movements, reading us like a book, its time we started playing your games back to u with a slight twist to it
Will there be a "final" tour time for the "Ralph" / Rich stadium & new tours of the new HIGH MARK stadium. Please allow all kinds of selfie sticks for videos. The BILLS have to make a little money if they open up tours to the old & new stadium. GO BILLS
2b for an outdoor stadium with no outstanding or unique attributes is wild.
Can't wait for the new stadium! Allen has changed this team around.. Pegula gotta learn to stop trading away sabres elite.. So maybe hockey can evolve as well....
Is there going to be a Bill's museum to mach other teams??
Fans: Bring back red helmets
Bills: Here's a new arena
Fans: uhh
"I was a part of the best tarp crew in Stadium History(Dave the Bookie/Tony)...I have a ton of Memory's at THE RALPH"
No Dome, No Super Bowl.
That area can’t handle the volume of people for a Super Bowl anyway plus the crazy amount of snow they get up there
Beautiful I hope I Can Make it to a game
Same
you won’t be able to afford it
Owner of the Bills is worth 7 BILLION DOLLARS yet the taxpayers of New York are funding the majority of this construction AND will be responsible for the maintenance. All to make the rich, richer.
That's capitalism and the American Way - Steal from the poor to give to the rich, It's what your servicemen give their lives for
Net worth and ready available cash are two vastly different things bud
Just like most franchises in most sports.
@@kendrickswartz4318he is one of those guys who loses his mind first and asks questions later 🤦🏻♂️
@@matthewhowe3727 That's the American Way so many suckers fought and died for and continue to
I'm a life long Bills fan and right near the stadium. And some genius said let's build a smaller stadium and just charge more. 🤦
They are building what will be, the smallest seating capacity in the NFL with a scant 62000 seats. 😮
I think they’re building the exact same stadium for Northwestern U.
Similar canopy. Similar seating. Same club feel. Cheaper exterior, though.
Same interior decor, just with purple accents instead of blue.
Same stadium, different skin.
Calling OSHA for the hard hat violation 😂
I don't live in the Buffalo Area. I live approximately 65 Miles NW of Philly. ONE Question: Is this going to be a Domed Stadium? Because if not; you guys royally messed up.
Not really. They want to keep their advantage. Playing teams like Miami in December at home is a huge advantage. I am a NE fan check out Payton Mannings numbers in NE in the cold. They are not good. I hate dome stadiums. You don’t have one and it’s for a good reason, advantage against warm weather and dome teams.
how much will the tickets cost
NO ROOF in Buffalo ?$ Cheap and Greet $$ Its a huge SNOWBELT area that gets tons of snow when 20 miles away is dry ! Not paying to freeze or get stuck in a snowstorm coming or going ! 😮
Go bills
This stadium will save Tyler bass from the wind
howd u make that bed roll like that tia, oh my hubby was hitting it from behind my back last night. lol
I think they’re building the exact same stadium for Northwestern U.
Same interior decor, just with purple accents instead of blue.
i called starlink theyre gonna help watch ace also
Thanks for pricing normal fans out terry
Thanks, Bills :).