Just remember, the marketing for Ahsoka insisted Zahn would be consulted, and then Filoni shut him out. I don't want someone that selfish in charge of Star Wars, when the life lessons of Star Wars are about promoting selflessness. It shows he just doesn't Get It.
For me it feels like Filoni has an overblown reputation because of The Clone Wars. Since then he failed every other project he was involved in and i don't like many ideas that he brought to SW canon.
@@ArtooDetourYES, PLEASE! I promise I will never cancel my Disney subscription if we get 5 Seasons of Andor! Take my money! (As long as Tony Gilroy is doing it)❣️
I do rate Kenobi and Boba harder than other shows because those were 2 that they shouldn’t have gotten wrong. And they did. But it’s Obi Wan and Boba Fett. Iconic! And they made them not iconic.
Disney Plus shows was the name of the video is the reason they weren't included. But yeah has there been any other shows besides these two that didn't premier on disney plus so why not just make it all disney star wars shows/seasons.
Kenobi definitely earned its low ranking. Though the writing is not significantly worse than the terrible BoB/Ahsoka/Acolyte/Mando3, it does MUCH more irreparable damage to canon than those others.
Of the live action shows I've watched: 1) Andor 2) Mando S2 3) Mando S1 4) Ahsoka 5) Kenobi 6) Mando S3 7) BOBF Dishonourable mention to the Acolyte. Not watched and never going near.
I think the thing I hated the most about The Book of Boba Fett was the "Disney" bike gang. They were supposed to be poor and on a desert planet, yet somehow they had shiny, brightly colored bikes that looked pristine when everything else around them looks old and run down. How does this make sense???
I really think your tier list is very accurate. It's just frustrating in the case of stuff like Visions or Tales of the Jedi because there's some great stuff there, but also bad stuff, so they end up averaging as mid. If I could separate the good parts from those shows, my tier list would be something like this: The Dooku arc from TotJ, the Siege of Mandalore from TCW, and the few best stories from both seasons of Visions, up there along with Andor in a "great" tier. Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, Mando S3, Acolyte, and Boba Fett, all in a "shit" tier. Everything else in "mid" tier.
1 Andor 2 Some Mandalirian episodes 3 probably Skeleton Crew, though I will only watch after it finishes. If I hear good things about it. Probably. Or not. 4 the rest of the lot.
Originally misread the question as to how you'd fix the sequel trilogy, but if I were going to do that. Make her Luke's daughter like they were probably originally planning on. Maybe she was thought dead for some reason, and Ben blames Luke and turns to the dark side because of it, instead of whatever was going on with in TLJ. Probably include Mara Jade, in at least a flashback. Meanwhile, Luke is rebuilding the Jedi on Achto, and has at least a few students. Have Finn become one of those students and finally lead a stormtrooper uprising in the FO. Have Snoke be an unhinged clone of Palps, similar to Joruus C'Baoth.
Give her a proper arc and make her less of a Mary Sue. In Episode VII TFA she doesn't have a single flaw, and that makes her an incredibly unrealistic and boring character. I can sense Rian Johnson tried to give a little more depth in TLJ but failed at making her more interesting.
S - Andor S1 A - The Mandalorian S1, The Mandalorian S2 B - Clone Wars S7, The Bad Batch S3, Visions S1 C - The Mandalorian S3, The Bad Batch S2, Visions S2, Tales of the Jedi D - Skeleton Crew, Ahsoka S1, The Bad Batch S1, The Book of Boba Fett, Kenobi, Tales of the Empire F - The Acolyte I'm tempted to give Boba Fett an I for incomplete as I feel like we never really got the 2nd half of that show.
I find it hilarious of you showed this tire list to somebody 5 years ago before All the shows and they see the 3 legacy characters Ahsoka, boba fett and kenobi were all lower then Andor and mandalorian 2 original Disney era characters they’d laugh but here we are, mando and Andor are the best handled so far imo
Hey Thor, will you please do a video comparing the Legends and canonical portrayals of Mandalorians, then share your preferred version and why? Thanks for all the work you and Naboo do for these videos.
No Rebels, Resistance or Young Jedi show... Andor was ok but not "S" more of an "A". Other than maybe moving Asoka to the back of C Tier I kinda agree with the choices. The Acolyte I would put in a Tier below "F" lol
Everyone loves Andor, but I was also blown away by The Mandalorian Season 2. I watched The Bad Batch series 4 times. The series as a whole is fantastic. I enjoyed Kenobi quite a bit. Even Ahsoka and The Book of Boba Fett were enjoyable, with a few flaws. All three are passable entertainment and underrated. I am very much in the minority thinking that The Acolyte was entertaining for the first six episodes, but the last couple of episodes were a big disappointment.
Pretty similar to my list I’d say, I was more generous on the C/Ds and the A/B decisions, I opted for the higher one every time. I didn’t have visions, I’ve watched a couple but it doesn’t register as Star Wars for me, so it gets lost when I feel the big to watch something in the Galaxy get far away.
1 Andor 2 Clone Wars final season 3 Tales of the Jedi season 1 4 Mando season 1 5 Bad Batch 6 Visions 7 Skeleton Crew 8 Mando Season 2 9 Tales of the Empire 10 Book of boba Fett 11 Mando Season 3 12 Kenobi 13 Ahsoka 14 Acolyte
@@theanonymouscritic1710 Ok so that’s an interesting opinion. Before anything else, can you tell me some other shows that you’ve watched that you also think are superb? Not Star Wars shows?
My 1c. -Andor S1: S -Skeleton Crew: Undecided, probably A -Mandalorian: B (Considering the last season was crap.) -Rebels: A -Bad Batch: C -All the rest: F ... -Acolyte: Absolute Crap Edit: Totally forgot clone wars: Except for the Martez sister drug mules arc: S
I wish you had included your thoughts overall on Rebels and Resistance, which are Canon shows produced by Disney. In my opinion early Rebels is B/C and later Rebels is A. Resistance is F and a black mark for Dave Filoni.
You erred by not including Rebels. It was not a Disney+ show, granted, but it was a Disney Star Wars show. Penance: do a tier list for every individual Rebels episode.
For me CLONE WARS ANDOR MANDALORIAN REBELS CLONE WARS 2003 TALES OF THE JEDI AHSOKA OBIWAN BOOK OF BOBA TALES OF THE EMPIRE Havent seen all of Bad Batch
Pretty much agree, although I would put Clone Wars season 7 in A simply for how amazing the siege of Mandalore is. I would also rank Mando season 3 in D because it fell off completely in my opinion.
I would put Boba Fett in B, since for the most part it's just fine. However the mishandling of Cad Bane makes me downgrade it to D. In the entier series he does almost nothing. He wins the duel against Cobb Vanth(and doesn't even kill him) then losses the duel to Boba and presumably dies. Additionally he starts making a villainous speech instead of just shooting Boba, which felt out of character and made him look like a fool. If you show this series to someone who doesn't know who Cad Bane is they will probably see him as some random old guy from Boba's past. Not the greatest bounty hunter in history that he is. Someone who killed jedi in single combat, held his own against Kenobi and Quinlan Vos in a 1v2, resisted a force enchanced interogation from three of the most powerful jedi on top of that managed to infiltrate and outsmart the whole order. Cad Bane had a potential to be the perfect villain for Boba's series if they managed to build him up as one. My pitch is: He is the one to kill the tuskens, Cobb Vanth actually dies and during the final battle he kills the vespa gang and gamorian guards and makes it look effortless. That way he is actually build up as a proper intimidating villain for the final showdown against Boba. Then Cad Bane wins the duel, however he can't finish Boba since Black Krrsantan comes to his rescue. He is no match for Bane, however Mando also gets there, and then the three of them manage to beat and kill Bane after his epic last stand. That way we give a proper sendoff to the greatest bounty hunters of all time and one of the best characters in SW history, while simultaneously enchancing the message of building friendships and alliances > being a lone wolf, that the show tried to make
The only shows that I accept to be canon from Disney plus are The Clone wars Rebels The Bad Batch Andor The first 2 seasons of the Mandalorian Whether Ashoka and season 3 of Mando redeem themselves with added lore is still left to be decided
@@evok993 Let’s see: Oh yeah, two qualities lacking from much of Disney/Star Wars. A solid story and an imaginative visual twist on George Lucas’s universe and Rosario Dawson rocks it.
@@evok993 Well it does. Stopping Grand Admiral Thrawn from returning from exile. If you felt that made the outcome a foregone conclusion like Thor did, we’ll fine but *make the argument like a mature adult!*
Other than Bad Batch order I'd agree with this list....... I was going to place Boba in F then I remembered the Acolyte existed, and it gets that one all to itself.
Mando S1 : B. Mando S2 : B. Mando S3 : D. Andor : S. Ahsoka : C. (Never read the Thrawn books, but he certainly don't come off as no military genius). Kenobi : F. Book of Boba : F. (It's nothing but a classic suit of armor). Acolyte : F. Skeleton Crew : Not watched no opinion. Clone Wars S7 : D. (I'd give the first story a C. second a F. and the last an S. Bad batch S1 : C. (Bad enough that i did not watch the rest of it. Tales of the Jedi : B. (Dooku stuff an S. Ahsoka a low C). Tales of the Empire : Did not watch, Bariss did not interest me enough, and Morgan not at all. Visions S1 : B. (Some where really good, some where quite bad, none of them reach S tier) Bisions S2 : Did not watch, as i said none of the S1's where superb, not enough to warrent a S2. Hearing Thor going maybe some of it is not that bad makes me think on my ratings, i stand by them.. You are too soft Thor ;)
I'd go lower on Mando season 3. I don't recall any quality parts of it, and it was just such a huge drop in quality in every way from the first two seasons. It was so disappointing. I'd also think about dropping Ahsoka down with The Acolyte. To me, it barely makes sense even knowing all of the characters, and it's got to be borderline incomprehensible to people who don't know the characters. I guess it does less damage to the lore and core themes than the Acolyte, but it's not like Ahsoka is a model Jedi in the show, plus the time travel to prevent death is a bad contraption for Star Wars to have. Let Sabine deal with the consequences of her mistake.
As a GenX fan I would love to have a list of my own but so many of these shows are for super fans of Anakin story which I am not. The past is fine but ultimately that road leads to Luke, so a lot of mystery is already gone. Skeleton Crew really is the first show since Rogue One to capture my attention. That alone to me makes it an ‘A’ tier show. At least it doesn’t involve a bounty hunter who Darth Vader had to tell to chill because a bureaucrat 🙄
It's funny how much I disliked ahsoka and everyone else loved it, or at least liked it, and now on the tier list it goes all the way down into d. I'm happy. Boba fet is such a weird show, I loved his time with the tuskens, the Mando episodes were pretty cool, and the ending had some cool action if I was to give it anything. But as a show itself it just does not work. This is a show that has some great parts, but just can't tie it together. Idk that's my rant about boba (damn it why couldn't he have shot some people like he did at the end of Mando season 2)
I'm guessing mine will be unpopular as I really dont like Andor, I found it slow and such a struggle to even make it to the end (and yes I have seen plenty of slower shows with great dialogue like sopranos, the wire etc but for me Andor is nowhere near those types of series S - The Mandalorian S1 A - The Mandalorian S2, Clone Wars S7 B - Skeleton Crew C - Ahsoka, The Mandalorian S3, Tales of the Jedi, D - Andor, The Bad Batch, The Book of Boba Fett, Kenobi, Tales of the Empire, Visions S1 F - The Acolyte
Things id change: Clone Wars season 7 in A, ending is just too good. Bad batch s2 in A, for Tech and Crosshair. Ashoka in C, didnt think it was as bad as Kenobi and Boba Fett, Baylan carried the whole show. Think thats more or less it
The Robert Rodriguez episodes of BOBF were so cheesy with laughably bad action scenes. They get an F; the rest of the episodes were solid C's, so overall a D is proper for the series.
@@theanonymouscritic1710 I wish I was as easily amused as you are man. But "Some of the best Starwars in years" is not a very high bar at all and if you weren't a bot you'd know that.
Andor is solid A but the 1st arc was lame so definitely not S tier. All over the place... I'd cut you some slack for an impromptu list but you'd better come back with a corrected list ASAP!
《Disney+ STAR WARS Series Ranked》 [S~tier] visionS [A~tier] Acolyte, Ahsoka, Andor [B~tier] Bad Batch, keno~B [C~tier] skeleton Crew [D~tier] manDalorian [F~tier] book of boba Fett 《JK~i give all of them a D+》 👽 🖖 🤖
I’m surprised you ranked Ahsoka without talking about Sabine. I’m a big Rebels fan, and to me, what they did to Sabine in Ahsoka was as bad character assassination as what they did with Luke in TLJ. It’s seriously that bad. I’m fine with whatever your opinion is on it obviously but I’d be curious to hear your own thoughts on it with hindsight
@@theanonymouscritic1710I’d argue it’s more hyperbolic to change your rules of critique depending on what character you are talking about. Luke Skywalker matters to me a lot more than Sabine as a character, which is why his character assassination stung more. But if you look more objectively at what exactly they got wrong, I don’t think it’s unfair to say it is in the same ballpark at least
@@officialmonarchmusic Hmm let’s see. Did anything she did in the Ahsoka show go against her character like with Luke in TLJ? No! It didn’t. Does her being force sensitive matter? No, it doesn’t. Is her giving the map to Baylan Skoll selfish? No, because she gave it under duress! Also, on some level, she realises that she messed up and Ahsoka recognises that and decides not to be judgemental on her. The only weird part was her being Ahsoka’s padawan which is never explained.
S- The Clone Wars A- Mando S1, Mando S2, Ahsoka, Bad Batch B- Visions, Tales, Mando S3, Obi-Wan, Skeleton Crew C- The Acolyte D- Andor, Book of Boba Fett F
You're in so much trouble, Thor! I am unsubscribing. I am withdrawing from Discord Headless Mando Cantina. I am canceling my Patreon support. You've gone too far this time, Viceroy! You are part of the Separatists and a traitor. Take him away!
Ahsoka was a terrible show. How can you have a map to Thrawn before Thrawn is even born ? and Sabine starting a war that will kill millions just to see a friend is the definition of selfishness
Actually, Ahsoka was an amazing show. I was more focused on the fact that the map storyline was similar to The Force Awakens but clearly that’s just me. Also, “Sabine starting a war that will kill millions just to see a friend is the definition of selfishness”. Wow, I have never heard that before. Clearly, you have nothing interesting to say.
@theanonymouscritic1710 That was not an interesting response. It ignores what she did in giving the map to Balen. Ahsoka was a boring show unless you count arm folding and long stares to be entertainment???
@@geraintthatcher3076 And I’m saying you’re ignoring the context behind *why* she did it and that you have nothing interesting to say and bring arm folding and long stares is indicative of that and you’re bring up something that just doesn’t matter!
Just remember, the marketing for Ahsoka insisted Zahn would be consulted, and then Filoni shut him out. I don't want someone that selfish in charge of Star Wars, when the life lessons of Star Wars are about promoting selflessness. It shows he just doesn't Get It.
Not to be rude about that But i really love The Canon thrawn books so Can you give a source
For me it feels like Filoni has an overblown reputation because of The Clone Wars. Since then he failed every other project he was involved in and i don't like many ideas that he brought to SW canon.
@@davidfrederiksen3185I love the canon Thrawn books as well. I don’t think Filoni has ever read them, because he has no idea who the character is
100% Forget consulting, Zahn should be in the writer’s room too. He’s a better writer than almost anyone at Lucasfilm
Damn straight, are they as petty as knowing it and keeping him in the dark?
Probably...
For every Andor, there's an Acolyte. Balance.
Perfectly balanced as all things should be.
Yeah?! But heck, that scale is heavily leaning with BoB/Kenobi/Mando3/Ahsoka. We’d need 5 seasons of Andor to set things right! 😂
@@ArtooDetourYES, PLEASE! I promise I will never cancel my Disney subscription if we get 5 Seasons of Andor! Take my money! (As long as Tony Gilroy is doing it)❣️
I do rate Kenobi and Boba harder than other shows because those were 2 that they shouldn’t have gotten wrong. And they did. But it’s Obi Wan and Boba Fett. Iconic! And they made them not iconic.
Exactly. A lot of my grades were influenced by how 'important' the shows were or the characters used are.
WE NEED NABOOS LIST! Also Marvel tv show list? 😂
I would say that's a pretty solid tier list and would mimic mine pretty closely.
Same but I think I enjoyed Ashoka more than Boba fett
Same but I’d knock some down a tier
Needed to have Rebels and Resistance on it as well.
Disney Plus shows was the name of the video is the reason they weren't included. But yeah has there been any other shows besides these two that didn't premier on disney plus so why not just make it all disney star wars shows/seasons.
Kenobi definitely earned its low ranking. Though the writing is not significantly worse than the terrible BoB/Ahsoka/Acolyte/Mando3, it does MUCH more irreparable damage to canon than those others.
Of the live action shows I've watched:
1) Andor
2) Mando S2
3) Mando S1
4) Ahsoka
5) Kenobi
6) Mando S3
7) BOBF
Dishonourable mention to the Acolyte. Not watched and never going near.
I think the thing I hated the most about The Book of Boba Fett was the "Disney" bike gang. They were supposed to be poor and on a desert planet, yet somehow they had shiny, brightly colored bikes that looked pristine when everything else around them looks old and run down. How does this make sense???
I really think your tier list is very accurate. It's just frustrating in the case of stuff like Visions or Tales of the Jedi because there's some great stuff there, but also bad stuff, so they end up averaging as mid. If I could separate the good parts from those shows, my tier list would be something like this:
The Dooku arc from TotJ, the Siege of Mandalore from TCW, and the few best stories from both seasons of Visions, up there along with Andor in a "great" tier.
Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, Mando S3, Acolyte, and Boba Fett, all in a "shit" tier.
Everything else in "mid" tier.
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You guys do well with longer form content
I think you did YOUR list perfectly !
Fun video
Kenobi definitely deserves an F for destroying 2 of the most important and fan favorite characters in all of Star Wars.
Kenobi felt like a fan film that somehow got an A list actor for it.
Watching Flea chase baby Leia was so ridiculous and not in a good way
@geraintthatcher3076 I almost forgot Flea was in that show show for some reason lol.
@@WumboJumbo96Leia tried to flee from Flea.
Interesting that what the S and A tier shows have in common are shows/seasons that feature original characters and self-contained stories. 🤔
Acolyte should have its own category, I seriously doubt any bad series can share its tier
Acolyte IS in its own category 🤮. Or.. it should be lumped together with The Last Jedi.. like if AI wrote a Star Wars script.
I put Acolyte at like B or so
I actually think Ahsoka is even worse than the Acolyte
@@officialmonarchmusicNothing is worse than The Acolyte. Don’t be hypobolic.
@@theanonymouscritic1710Not to be rude, but you did just say “don’t be hyperbolic” immediately after saying “NOTHING IS WORSE THAN THE ACOLYTE”
10:30 crazy facts
I've never changed my ranking of anything so dramatically between the 1st and 2nd time experiencing it
1 Andor
2 Some Mandalirian episodes
3 probably Skeleton Crew, though I will only watch after it finishes. If I hear good things about it. Probably. Or not.
4 the rest of the lot.
Hey Thor, if you were in charge of making a Rey movie or Trilogy what would you do with it or how would you try to fix Rey's character?
Good question. Nearly impossible to answer! 🙂↔️
Originally misread the question as to how you'd fix the sequel trilogy, but if I were going to do that.
Make her Luke's daughter like they were probably originally planning on. Maybe she was thought dead for some reason, and Ben blames Luke and turns to the dark side because of it, instead of whatever was going on with in TLJ. Probably include Mara Jade, in at least a flashback. Meanwhile, Luke is rebuilding the Jedi on Achto, and has at least a few students. Have Finn become one of those students and finally lead a stormtrooper uprising in the FO. Have Snoke be an unhinged clone of Palps, similar to Joruus C'Baoth.
Give her a proper arc and make her less of a Mary Sue. In Episode VII TFA she doesn't have a single flaw, and that makes her an incredibly unrealistic and boring character. I can sense Rian Johnson tried to give a little more depth in TLJ but failed at making her more interesting.
S - Andor S1
A - The Mandalorian S1, The Mandalorian S2
B - Clone Wars S7, The Bad Batch S3, Visions S1
C - The Mandalorian S3, The Bad Batch S2, Visions S2, Tales of the Jedi
D - Skeleton Crew, Ahsoka S1, The Bad Batch S1, The Book of Boba Fett, Kenobi, Tales of the Empire
F - The Acolyte
I'm tempted to give Boba Fett an I for incomplete as I feel like we never really got the 2nd half of that show.
Where would Rebels and the Clone Wars fit? And resistence?
I find it hilarious of you showed this tire list to somebody 5 years ago before All the shows and they see the 3 legacy characters Ahsoka, boba fett and kenobi were all lower then Andor and mandalorian 2 original Disney era characters they’d laugh but here we are, mando and Andor are the best handled so far imo
Hey Thor, will you please do a video comparing the Legends and canonical portrayals of Mandalorians, then share your preferred version and why? Thanks for all the work you and Naboo do for these videos.
Solid tier list…but only disagreements….Kenobi was F tier and Mando 3 was D tier. Terrible shows, but Kenobi was an abomination.
No Rebels, Resistance or Young Jedi show...
Andor was ok but not "S" more of an "A". Other than maybe moving Asoka to the back of C Tier I kinda agree with the choices. The Acolyte I would put in a Tier below "F" lol
Everyone loves Andor, but I was also blown away by The Mandalorian Season 2.
I watched The Bad Batch series 4 times. The series as a whole is fantastic.
I enjoyed Kenobi quite a bit. Even Ahsoka and The Book of Boba Fett were enjoyable, with a few flaws. All three are passable entertainment and underrated.
I am very much in the minority thinking that The Acolyte was entertaining for the first six episodes, but the last couple of episodes were a big disappointment.
Crazy that I almost 100% agree with this list
Mine wouldn't be too far off. I would move some seasons up or down one tier at most.
Wasn't Resistance disney?
Yes, but it was originally aired on Disney XD (2018) rather than being exclusive to Disney+.
Pretty similar to my list I’d say, I was more generous on the C/Ds and the A/B decisions, I opted for the higher one every time. I didn’t have visions, I’ve watched a couple but it doesn’t register as Star Wars for me, so it gets lost when I feel the big to watch something in the Galaxy get far away.
1 Andor
2 Clone Wars final season
3 Tales of the Jedi season 1
4 Mando season 1
5 Bad Batch
6 Visions
7 Skeleton Crew
8 Mando Season 2
9 Tales of the Empire
10 Book of boba Fett
11 Mando Season 3
12 Kenobi
13 Ahsoka
14 Acolyte
Ahsoka should not be that low! 😡
@@theanonymouscritic1710nah that shows trash man, come on now.
@@theanonymouscritic1710everything I put below Mando season 2 is basically trash tier
@@jaxsonburch-eo1vz Um, no it wasn’t. It was superb.
@@theanonymouscritic1710 Ok so that’s an interesting opinion. Before anything else, can you tell me some other shows that you’ve watched that you also think are superb? Not Star Wars shows?
My 1c.
-Andor S1: S
-Skeleton Crew: Undecided, probably A
-Mandalorian: B (Considering the last season was crap.)
-Rebels: A
-Bad Batch: C
-All the rest: F
...
-Acolyte: Absolute Crap
Edit: Totally forgot clone wars: Except for the Martez sister drug mules arc: S
Ahsoka is not F tier. It’s at most B tier.
This is a pretty spot on tier list for me.
I wish you had included your thoughts overall on Rebels and Resistance, which are Canon shows produced by Disney. In my opinion early Rebels is B/C and later Rebels is A. Resistance is F and a black mark for Dave Filoni.
Going in to this video I was very interested to see where Thor would rank the Freemaker Adventures! Sadface...
You erred by not including Rebels. It was not a Disney+ show, granted, but it was a Disney Star Wars show.
Penance: do a tier list for every individual Rebels episode.
For me
CLONE WARS
ANDOR
MANDALORIAN
REBELS
CLONE WARS 2003
TALES OF THE JEDI
AHSOKA
OBIWAN
BOOK OF BOBA
TALES OF THE EMPIRE
Havent seen all of Bad Batch
Pretty much agree, although I would put Clone Wars season 7 in A simply for how amazing the siege of Mandalore is. I would also rank Mando season 3 in D because it fell off completely in my opinion.
Interesting list guys
Skeleton Crew in A is wild...
I agree with most of the rest except Andor
I would put Boba Fett in B, since for the most part it's just fine. However the mishandling of Cad Bane makes me downgrade it to D.
In the entier series he does almost nothing. He wins the duel against Cobb Vanth(and doesn't even kill him) then losses the duel to Boba and presumably dies. Additionally he starts making a villainous speech instead of just shooting Boba, which felt out of character and made him look like a fool. If you show this series to someone who doesn't know who Cad Bane is they will probably see him as some random old guy from Boba's past. Not the greatest bounty hunter in history that he is. Someone who killed jedi in single combat, held his own against Kenobi and Quinlan Vos in a 1v2, resisted a force enchanced interogation from three of the most powerful jedi on top of that managed to infiltrate and outsmart the whole order.
Cad Bane had a potential to be the perfect villain for Boba's series if they managed to build him up as one. My pitch is: He is the one to kill the tuskens, Cobb Vanth actually dies and during the final battle he kills the vespa gang and gamorian guards and makes it look effortless. That way he is actually build up as a proper intimidating villain for the final showdown against Boba.
Then Cad Bane wins the duel, however he can't finish Boba since Black Krrsantan comes to his rescue. He is no match for Bane, however Mando also gets there, and then the three of them manage to beat and kill Bane after his epic last stand. That way we give a proper sendoff to the greatest bounty hunters of all time and one of the best characters in SW history, while simultaneously enchancing the message of building friendships and alliances > being a lone wolf, that the show tried to make
The only shows that I accept to be canon from Disney plus are
The Clone wars
Rebels
The Bad Batch
Andor
The first 2 seasons of the Mandalorian
Whether Ashoka and season 3 of Mando redeem themselves with added lore is still left to be decided
Why? What’s wrong with Ahsoka?
@@theanonymouscritic1710the real question is " what is not wrong with Ahsoka ?" 😏
@@evok993 Let’s see: Oh yeah, two qualities lacking from much of Disney/Star Wars. A solid story and an imaginative visual twist on George Lucas’s universe and Rosario Dawson rocks it.
@@theanonymouscritic1710 you lost me at "solid story".
@@evok993 Well it does. Stopping Grand Admiral Thrawn from returning from exile. If you felt that made the outcome a foregone conclusion like Thor did, we’ll fine but *make the argument like a mature adult!*
New characters, new content, new stories and use the force sparingly at most.
You should do a canon comics tier list
Cough Darth Vader 2017 S tier cough
Other than Bad Batch order I'd agree with this list....... I was going to place Boba in F then I remembered the Acolyte existed, and it gets that one all to itself.
like your lists, I would watch the Young Jedi adventures as a kids show it is fun.
Sorry I’m 14 seconds late
the late guy has to bring the tacos. 🌮
I'd boost Mando S1, Mando S2, Bad Batch S1, Ahsoka S1 up 1 spot each. My tier list is otherwise pretty much like Thor's. Thanks, Thor and Naboo!
Mando S1 : B.
Mando S2 : B.
Mando S3 : D.
Andor : S.
Ahsoka : C. (Never read the Thrawn books, but he certainly don't come off as no military genius).
Kenobi : F.
Book of Boba : F. (It's nothing but a classic suit of armor).
Acolyte : F.
Skeleton Crew : Not watched no opinion.
Clone Wars S7 : D. (I'd give the first story a C. second a F. and the last an S.
Bad batch S1 : C. (Bad enough that i did not watch the rest of it.
Tales of the Jedi : B. (Dooku stuff an S. Ahsoka a low C).
Tales of the Empire : Did not watch, Bariss did not interest me enough, and Morgan not at all.
Visions S1 : B. (Some where really good, some where quite bad, none of them reach S tier)
Bisions S2 : Did not watch, as i said none of the S1's where superb, not enough to warrent a S2.
Hearing Thor going maybe some of it is not that bad makes me think on my ratings, i stand by them.. You are too soft Thor ;)
s7 cw in a B is actually crazy work
Love you two, but this felt a little slow. When I get off work, the last thing I wanna hear is banter. You guys both rock, this just didn’t hit for me
100% agree. Solid list
The martez sister arch isnt great but it gets a bad wrap, its not my favorite story but at least it all works for what it is
My changes
Boba: F
Mando all seasons: A
Clone wars: D
Tales: C/D
I'd go lower on Mando season 3. I don't recall any quality parts of it, and it was just such a huge drop in quality in every way from the first two seasons. It was so disappointing. I'd also think about dropping Ahsoka down with The Acolyte. To me, it barely makes sense even knowing all of the characters, and it's got to be borderline incomprehensible to people who don't know the characters. I guess it does less damage to the lore and core themes than the Acolyte, but it's not like Ahsoka is a model Jedi in the show, plus the time travel to prevent death is a bad contraption for Star Wars to have. Let Sabine deal with the consequences of her mistake.
Clone Wars is the one and only S tier.
I feel like Acolyte shouldn't be F tier. It should be something like Z tier.
I agree for the most part, I’d personally put Kenobi in F, sadly
As a GenX fan I would love to have a list of my own but so many of these shows are for super fans of Anakin story which I am not. The past is fine but ultimately that road leads to Luke, so a lot of mystery is already gone. Skeleton Crew really is the first show since Rogue One to capture my attention. That alone to me makes it an ‘A’ tier show. At least it doesn’t involve a bounty hunter who Darth Vader had to tell to chill because a bureaucrat 🙄
My hottest take is that I didn't mind the Acolyte and think it's far better than Kenobi, Boba, Mando 3, and Ahsoka.
I agree. Other than Ahsoka.
I would put The Mandalorian Seasons 1 & 2 in "A", Skeleton Crew in C. Tales of the Empire in D. Both Visions in B. Everything else agree.
waow Ahsoka below Mando s3... But I kinda agree it shouldn't have gone that wrong. But on that scale Obi Wan is an F for me.
It's funny how much I disliked ahsoka and everyone else loved it, or at least liked it, and now on the tier list it goes all the way down into d. I'm happy.
Boba fet is such a weird show, I loved his time with the tuskens, the Mando episodes were pretty cool, and the ending had some cool action if I was to give it anything. But as a show itself it just does not work. This is a show that has some great parts, but just can't tie it together. Idk that's my rant about boba (damn it why couldn't he have shot some people like he did at the end of Mando season 2)
I'm guessing mine will be unpopular as I really dont like Andor, I found it slow and such a struggle to even make it to the end (and yes I have seen plenty of slower shows with great dialogue like sopranos, the wire etc but for me Andor is nowhere near those types of series
S - The Mandalorian S1
A - The Mandalorian S2, Clone Wars S7
B - Skeleton Crew
C - Ahsoka, The Mandalorian S3, Tales of the Jedi,
D - Andor, The Bad Batch, The Book of Boba Fett, Kenobi, Tales of the Empire, Visions S1
F - The Acolyte
S: Andor
A: Mano S1, Mando S2, Clone Wars S7
B: Obi-Wan, BB1, BB2
C: Mando S3, BOBF
D: BB3, Ashoka
F: Acolyte
I didn’t grade stuff that I haven’t watched.
Why are BB3 & Ahsoka in the D teir?
Top 5 1. ANDOR 2.THE MANDALORIAN 3.ASHOKA 4. SKELETON CREW(SO FAR) 5.OBI- WAN
Things id change: Clone Wars season 7 in A, ending is just too good.
Bad batch s2 in A, for Tech and Crosshair.
Ashoka in C, didnt think it was as bad as Kenobi and Boba Fett, Baylan carried the whole show.
Think thats more or less it
Star wars rebels has entered the chat
It's not a Disney+ show to be fair
You guys forgot Rebels.....
I hated the Dr. Episode. It was so stupid the way people acted like everyone was drinking spiked kool-aid.
The Robert Rodriguez episodes of BOBF were so cheesy with laughably bad action scenes. They get an F; the rest of the episodes were solid C's, so overall a D is proper for the series.
Kenobi F all day. Bob F because it's best episodes were not about boba
Still not over how disappointed I was with Ahsoka
Get over it. Ahsoka was some of the best Star Wars in recent years.
@@theanonymouscritic1710 I wish I was as easily amused as you are man.
But "Some of the best Starwars in years" is not a very high bar at all and if you weren't a bot you'd know that.
@@sofaking1627 What kind of a stupid response is that?
@@theanonymouscritic1710 One befitting your station for sure
@@sofaking1627 Ok, since you’re not actually countering my arguments, we might as well not be having this “discussion”.
I only disagree about TofE. The show did not live up to the name. I was disappointed.
Pew pew.... pew pew pew
Is Disney dead? Are movies dead?
Andor is solid A but the 1st arc was lame so definitely not S tier. All over the place... I'd cut you some slack for an impromptu list but you'd better come back with a corrected list ASAP!
S: -
A: Bad Batch, Clone Wars
B: Ahsoka
C: Mandalorian, Acolyte, Tales of Jedi, Skeleton Crew
D: Kenobi, Boba Fett
F: Andor
《Disney+ STAR WARS Series Ranked》
[S~tier] visionS
[A~tier] Acolyte, Ahsoka, Andor
[B~tier] Bad Batch, keno~B
[C~tier] skeleton Crew
[D~tier] manDalorian
[F~tier] book of boba Fett
《JK~i give all of them a D+》
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I’m surprised you ranked Ahsoka without talking about Sabine. I’m a big Rebels fan, and to me, what they did to Sabine in Ahsoka was as bad character assassination as what they did with Luke in TLJ. It’s seriously that bad. I’m fine with whatever your opinion is on it obviously but I’d be curious to hear your own thoughts on it with hindsight
No what they did with Sabine was not as bad as Luke in TLJ. You are being hypobolic.
@@theanonymouscritic1710I’d argue it’s more hyperbolic to change your rules of critique depending on what character you are talking about. Luke Skywalker matters to me a lot more than Sabine as a character, which is why his character assassination stung more. But if you look more objectively at what exactly they got wrong, I don’t think it’s unfair to say it is in the same ballpark at least
@@officialmonarchmusic That’s the thing. It isn’t “character assassination” in Sabine’s case! 🤦♂️
@@theanonymouscritic1710How so?
@@officialmonarchmusic Hmm let’s see. Did anything she did in the Ahsoka show go against her character like with Luke in TLJ? No! It didn’t. Does her being force sensitive matter? No, it doesn’t. Is her giving the map to Baylan Skoll selfish? No, because she gave it under duress! Also, on some level, she realises that she messed up and Ahsoka recognises that and decides not to be judgemental on her. The only weird part was her being Ahsoka’s padawan which is never explained.
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List includes Andor - A tier
Then meh to garbage to cartoons i never watched
I personally put Andor at C or D
Ahsoka is an easy A in my opinion.
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Kenobi is undoubtedly F tier, for me. The writing and directing for that show is amateurish, at best.
Am I the only one who doesn't like Andor?
Andor S
Clone wars s7 A
Everything else is F (yes I include Mandalorian)
Acolyte Z
Done.
S- The Clone Wars
A- Mando S1, Mando S2, Ahsoka, Bad Batch
B- Visions, Tales, Mando S3, Obi-Wan, Skeleton Crew
C- The Acolyte
D- Andor, Book of Boba Fett
F
You're in so much trouble, Thor! I am unsubscribing. I am withdrawing from Discord Headless Mando Cantina. I am canceling my Patreon support. You've gone too far this time, Viceroy! You are part of the Separatists and a traitor. Take him away!
Ahsoka was a terrible show. How can you have a map to Thrawn before Thrawn is even born ? and Sabine starting a war that will kill millions just to see a friend is the definition of selfishness
Actually, Ahsoka was an amazing show. I was more focused on the fact that the map storyline was similar to The Force Awakens but clearly that’s just me. Also, “Sabine starting a war that will kill millions just to see a friend is the definition of selfishness”. Wow, I have never heard that before. Clearly, you have nothing interesting to say.
@theanonymouscritic1710 That was not an interesting response. It ignores what she did in giving the map to Balen.
Ahsoka was a boring show unless you count arm folding and long stares to be entertainment???
@@geraintthatcher3076 And I’m saying you’re ignoring the context behind *why* she did it and that you have nothing interesting to say and bring arm folding and long stares is indicative of that and you’re bring up something that just doesn’t matter!
1 show in s the rest in f