For an obscure, underrated symphony I find myself turning to this piece repeatedly with great pleasure in the same way I turn to Charles Villiers Stanford's 5th symphony, another underrated masterpiece.
So this is not actually the 2nd movement of Bruch's Symphony No. 3,and is something else that the people who put this performance together put in by mistake you're saying?Interesting-maybe the actual 2nd movement has spent all these years thinking it was the 3rd movement of his 2nd Symphony or something-ha ha ha?!!
There is no need to apologize for liking this symphony. In those who like it, some of Bruch's wonderful spirit reverberates regardless of the official status of this work in the 'Canon of Classical Music'.
Die Grundlage der Bruchische Symphonien erzählt mit der Sprache der Melodien, was sollte das Leben der Menscheit sein. Dies werden getan durch häufige Crescendo, kraftvolle Trommeln und überhaupt dank brillianten Durchführung. Der Zuhörer wird von tiefem Glauben durchdrungen, dass Licht die Dunkelheit überwinden wird !!! Tepper Michael.
Ich bin damit einverstanden....Tut mir Leid...Ich meinte 'Schuldaufdeckungsangst…..Ebenmäißgkeitsentzückung Aktionismus Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz! Herzlich, Mexikaner Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitän !
Some musicologists show a bit reluctant with respect to these symphonies of Bruch. I must confess that I do not share their vision. Probably there are "better" romantic symphonies. But these of Bruch seem me sincere, well written, of a solid achitecture, with a simple and discrete but appropriate orchestration. I must confess that I love this symphony, - perhaps less than some others, but I love it.
I like the word "sincere" you used. It sums this symphony up in one word. To compare Bruch to Brahms like so many do is tedious at least and annoying at most. Bruch was Bruch, Brahms was Brahms. end of story.
A masterful symphony, but one I have never heard in concert, or heard on classical music radio stations. Thank you for your work in uploading treasures like this.
I'm sorry, are you suggesting that one would not be able to tell the difference between the music of Brahms and this? That one might hear this without knowing the composer and think that it was a work of Brahms? You're joking, right? Or perhaps you're saying that if people saw the name "Brahms", they would immediately deem it a great work, even though it is so mediocre. There you may have a point, but that of course has to do with the listener, not the work. This is a turgid, faceless, almost completely unmemorable attempt at a symphonic essay by an intermittently memorable second-rate composer. The works of Brahms are some of the greatest, most visionary, most powerful music that has ever been composed.
@@nicholasfox966 -- No, rather it's like when I listen to Rakhmaninov, I hear occasional echoes of Glière and Tschaikowsky....same with Dvořák/Brahms and Brahms/Schubert/Beethoven. Is it all in the mind of the Listener? Or might there not have been hereditary influences? Greetings from San Agustinillo!
@@steveegallo3384 I was responding to the original post. Of course there is such a thing as influence, but that isn't what I think the original poster meant. Again, if he means to imply that this is somehow either similar to or somehow in the same universe of quality as the music of Brahms, I have to assume he's either joking or is very unfamiliar with the music of Brahms. If he's making a comment about the often shallow way people listen to music ("Oh, this is by Brahms? Then it's great!"), then of course he makes a valid point.
Very pleasant and light to the ears, to some degree reminiscent of Wagner and Schubert. Thank you for sharing this music conducive to working and reading.
Maks Bruh je bio jedan od najvecih i najboljih kompozitora odmah posle Baha,Betovena i Mendelsona. Ova, njegova simfonija br.3, je pravo maestralno remek djelo. Inace, prije no sto se poceo bavit' komponovanjem, Maks Bruh je bio vrhunski dirigent. Iako vise nisi medju zivima, zauvijek ces ostat' upamcen i cijenjen, zahvaljujuc' svojijem vrhunskijem muzickim djel'ma. Bravo, jarane!
Finde ich ebenfalls schön. Wir haben hier in Fortaleza mal das Violinkonzert gespielt. übrigens ganz grosse Klasse dei Postings von KuhlauDilfeng. Obwohl ich Musik studiert habe, tachen gerade hier immer mehr unbekannt und qualitativ hervorragende Komponisten auf, die den bekannteren um nichts nachstehen.
along with these Bruch symphonies (which I'm loving...), I only recently played a symphony of Raff (he has seven, I think). I had never heard of him, but the symphony was wonderful. To my friends, I describe both Bruch and Raff "well, they are not Brahms, but they are a step or so above Schumann."
I find comments here to be far more honest than usual. Then again, there aren't many comment sections with a specific vernacular even somewhat like this either. Regardless, I enjoy this music for what it is and find most of the comments to be similar to Lord Denethor from the Return of the King in that they take themselves far more seriously than they should (and this then relates to this character's involvement with folly as well). *Although,* I did see one trolling comment. Always nice(?) to see that the internet never changes. If you read this far, God bless.👍❤
I think musically speaking, we are solidly in the austro/German romantic sector here. I can hear "bits of" a lot of different composers, including Schumann, Wagner and Mendelssohn, but Max attained very much his own style. Great orchestrator and melodist.
The painting looks like in "Godly repose" and I bet it looks better than if you saw the scene for real. It seems divinely illuminated as if it was accented or highlighted by God or God was mysteriously in its presence.
Christine Martin It IS an enchanting movement, though the entire symphony is impressive. The hymn tune at the outset of the finale moves me very deeply.
Certains musicologues se montrent un peu réticents à l'égard de ces symphonies de Max Bruch. Je ne partage pas leur vision. Il existe probablement de meilleures symphonies romantiques. Mais celles de Bruch me semblent sincères, bien écrites, d'une architecture solide, avec une orchestration simple et discrète mais appropriée¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@aragornthebrave I mean, have you heard Mozart's Requiem, or his last few symphonies, or his Piano Sonata in A minor, or some of the piano concerti, or his operas, or... Sure, Mozart wrote a lot of lighthearted stuff, but there's no reason to bring him down - he also wrote some very serious stuff.. Bruch can be fantastic even if Mozart is (which he really is).
Och, wusste ich gar nicht dass Bruch Kölner war. Ich habe dort 15 Jahre lang gewohnt, und ein Teil meiner Familie ist von dort. Übrigens viele davon auch aus Bergisch Gladbach, wo er ja auch viel war. Beziehungen zum Fabrikant Zanders usw. (Habe bei Wikipedia nachgelesen).
Good to put the pictures. Who is the painter? What is the title? When it was painted. Or it has and I did't seen it. Sometimes it was written here. For exemple this here I did'nt seen it.
Sibelius was 22 when this symphony was composed, Wagner influenced Bruch and Sibelius which is one of the reasons why you hear strains of this symphony in Sibelius. Especially in the motives & melodies !
I needed some new, old classical music.
Couldn’t have said it any better.
The opening to the adagio is as beautiful as anything that's ever been written. Max Bruch deserves so much more recognition, much more.
I have yet to hear anything by Bruch that isn't wonderfully listenable.
His real name was Max Steele
For an obscure, underrated symphony I find myself turning to this piece repeatedly with great pleasure in the same way I turn to Charles Villiers Stanford's 5th symphony, another underrated masterpiece.
You're right... Charles was a different type of nighah, the type you didn't want to find on a rainy night, which made his music so... baroquesque.
Yes, Bruch is more than just his famous 1st violin concerto. I will check out Stanford's 5th. Thanks for the tip.
Thanks. I will give CVS's 5th a listen (I like his 3rd, though it almost comes into the category of light music).
The second movement of this is something else.
Certainly one of the best slow movements in a symphony of the second half of the nineteenth century!
So this is not actually the 2nd movement of Bruch's Symphony No. 3,and is something else that the people who put this performance together put in by mistake you're saying?Interesting-maybe the actual 2nd movement has spent all these years thinking it was the 3rd movement of his 2nd Symphony or something-ha ha ha?!!
Bruch must have been a cheerful person. This symphony, especially the last movement, helps me to experience that feeling as well!
He was apparently quite a difficult person to deal with, which limited his works' popularity with performers during his lifetime.
There is no need to apologize for liking this symphony. In those who like it, some of Bruch's wonderful spirit reverberates regardless of the official status of this work in the 'Canon of Classical Music'.
Die Grundlage der Bruchische Symphonien erzählt mit der Sprache der Melodien, was sollte das Leben der Menscheit sein. Dies werden getan durch häufige Crescendo, kraftvolle Trommeln und überhaupt dank brillianten Durchführung. Der Zuhörer wird von tiefem Glauben durchdrungen, dass Licht die Dunkelheit überwinden wird !!! Tepper Michael.
Ich bin damit einverstanden....Tut mir Leid...Ich meinte 'Schuldaufdeckungsangst…..Ebenmäißgkeitsentzückung Aktionismus Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz!
Herzlich, Mexikaner Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitän !
Some musicologists show a bit reluctant with respect to these symphonies of Bruch. I must confess that I do not share their vision. Probably there are "better" romantic symphonies. But these of Bruch seem me sincere, well written, of a solid achitecture, with a simple and discrete but appropriate orchestration. I must confess that I love this symphony, - perhaps less than some others, but I love it.
True !!!!!
I am very fond of this symphony too -- the slow movement is gorgeous and the attractive melody of the finale has a distinctive sound, perhaps English?
Perhaps, yes.
I like the word "sincere" you used. It sums this symphony up in one word. To compare Bruch to Brahms like so many do is tedious at least and annoying at most. Bruch was Bruch, Brahms was Brahms. end of story.
I fully agree with you, needless to say.
Been curious about the symphonies of Bruch.
Guess my journey starts here and now...thanks for posting 👍
My goal, to find a female friend, platonic, to attend as many classical music concerts with me as possible. My treat.
A masterful symphony, but one I have never heard in concert, or heard on classical music radio stations. Thank you for your work in uploading treasures like this.
I really enjoy this symphony as well. I actually discovered this piece on KDFC a while back, and even the host agreed that it is not often performed.
@@mzzyzx KDFC = Ken Ducky Fried Chicken?
I've listened to nothing but this Scherzo all afternoon.......
Aww, even my dog loves this and is dozing off to a peaceful slumber.
Tan hermosa música y que pena su poca difusión- Bella la obra de Max Bruch - Ricardo de Lanús,, Argentina
What a fabulous, vibrant and joyful symphony!
If Brahms had written this symphony everyone would tell: Oh, that 5th of Brahms, it is so marvelous...
I disagree. This is not just Brahmsian melancholia or heaviness. Much too cheerful for Brahms.
@@flanor7540 -- So....Dvořák?
I'm sorry, are you suggesting that one would not be able to tell the difference between the music of Brahms and this? That one might hear this without knowing the composer and think that it was a work of Brahms? You're joking, right? Or perhaps you're saying that if people saw the name "Brahms", they would immediately deem it a great work, even though it is so mediocre. There you may have a point, but that of course has to do with the listener, not the work. This is a turgid, faceless, almost completely unmemorable attempt at a symphonic essay by an intermittently memorable second-rate composer. The works of Brahms are some of the greatest, most visionary, most powerful music that has ever been composed.
@@nicholasfox966 -- No, rather it's like when I listen to Rakhmaninov, I hear occasional echoes of Glière and Tschaikowsky....same with Dvořák/Brahms and Brahms/Schubert/Beethoven. Is it all in the mind of the Listener? Or might there not have been hereditary influences? Greetings from San Agustinillo!
@@steveegallo3384 I was responding to the original post. Of course there is such a thing as influence, but that isn't what I think the original poster meant. Again, if he means to imply that this is somehow either similar to or somehow in the same universe of quality as the music of Brahms, I have to assume he's either joking or is very unfamiliar with the music of Brahms. If he's making a comment about the often shallow way people listen to music ("Oh, this is by Brahms? Then it's great!"), then of course he makes a valid point.
Very pleasant and light to the ears, to some degree reminiscent of Wagner and Schubert. Thank you for sharing this music conducive to working and reading.
Maks Bruh je bio jedan od najvecih i najboljih kompozitora odmah posle Baha,Betovena i Mendelsona. Ova, njegova
simfonija br.3, je pravo maestralno remek djelo. Inace, prije
no sto se poceo bavit' komponovanjem, Maks Bruh je bio
vrhunski dirigent. Iako vise nisi medju zivima, zauvijek ces
ostat' upamcen i cijenjen, zahvaljujuc' svojijem vrhunskijem muzickim djel'ma. Bravo, jarane!
Warm thanks and greetings from Sweden!
Überwältigen schön. Max Bruch ist in der Meisterklasse
Troels Varming - Dänemark
Finde ich ebenfalls schön. Wir haben hier in Fortaleza mal das Violinkonzert gespielt. übrigens ganz grosse Klasse dei Postings von KuhlauDilfeng. Obwohl ich Musik studiert habe, tachen gerade hier immer mehr unbekannt und qualitativ hervorragende Komponisten auf, die den bekannteren um nichts nachstehen.
Conlon is really getting the fire out of them. Had the pleasure of meeting and learning from him. Nice guy.
Просто очарование!Великолепие!
Maravilloso Más Bruch..!!!!
Mooi in balans en fijn om naar te luisteren
along with these Bruch symphonies (which I'm loving...), I only recently played a symphony of Raff (he has seven, I think). I had never heard of him, but the symphony was wonderful. To my friends, I describe both Bruch and Raff "well, they are not Brahms, but they are a step or so above Schumann."
Raff completed eleven symphonies., a piano concerto and a violin concerto
SIMPLY GREAT , ÜBERWÄLTIGEND
Good day!!!!! Orchestra!!!!! Like!!!!!
I find comments here to be far more honest than usual. Then again, there aren't many comment sections with a specific vernacular even somewhat like this either. Regardless, I enjoy this music for what it is and find most of the comments to be similar to Lord Denethor from the Return of the King in that they take themselves far more seriously than they should (and this then relates to this character's involvement with folly as well). *Although,* I did see one trolling comment. Always nice(?) to see that the internet never changes. If you read this far, God bless.👍❤
This is fantastic
I think musically speaking, we are solidly in the austro/German romantic sector here. I can hear "bits of" a lot of different composers, including Schumann, Wagner and Mendelssohn, but Max attained very much his own style. Great orchestrator and melodist.
The painting looks like in "Godly repose" and I bet it looks better than if you saw the scene for real. It seems divinely illuminated as if it was accented or highlighted by God or God was mysteriously in its presence.
The Scherzo is my favorite out of all 4 movements!
Christine Martin It IS an enchanting movement, though the entire symphony is impressive. The hymn tune at the outset of the finale moves me very deeply.
I know right?! I played it last year in the Waltham Philharmonic!
gotcha
Great....
Bruch is also great as a symphony composer.
33:00 love this melody
Very nice! It's funny that only a few pieces get most of the play time...
Agreed; I've been digging deeper and deeper this Covid season and finding wonderful treasures like this one!
@@davidjared3402 - Indeed! I guess there is a silver lining to the COVID cloud... 😅
7:30 Don't mind me just putting down my fave part
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I want to be wherever Max was when he composed this. In his own mind or in IRL.
Certains musicologues se montrent un peu réticents à l'égard de ces symphonies de Max Bruch. Je ne partage pas leur vision. Il existe probablement de meilleures symphonies romantiques. Mais celles de Bruch me semblent sincères, bien écrites, d'une architecture solide, avec une orchestration simple et discrète mais appropriée¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Does the Scherzo anticipate Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker or is it me? Tchaikovsky wrote the ballet some three years later.
Total überholt aber so genial !
Why only 3 symphonies from this talented man?
try to write music (never hear before) takes a lot of dedication.
Because he was trying to write music that touched our deepest feelings, not just tafelmusik like Mozart wrote.
@@aragornthebrave I mean, have you heard Mozart's Requiem, or his last few symphonies, or his Piano Sonata in A minor, or some of the piano concerti, or his operas, or...
Sure, Mozart wrote a lot of lighthearted stuff, but there's no reason to bring him down - he also wrote some very serious stuff.. Bruch can be fantastic even if Mozart is (which he really is).
@@klop4228 I do like the Requiem actually, but I do think Mozart is hugely overrated. Beethoven should have the top spot.
was that the banger of 87
How can the composer of the g minor violin concerto and Scottish Fantasy let you down? It can't, never.
il s'agit - peut-être- de Albert Bierstadt ou un peintre de "l'Hudson River school ". Merci de le faire savoir. C'est spendide
Il s´agit d´un oeuvre de Frederic Edwin Church: La Coeur des Andes
blessings
Der Kölsche Brahms!
Och, wusste ich gar nicht dass Bruch Kölner war. Ich habe dort 15 Jahre lang gewohnt, und ein Teil meiner Familie ist von dort. Übrigens viele davon auch aus Bergisch Gladbach, wo er ja auch viel war. Beziehungen zum Fabrikant Zanders usw. (Habe bei Wikipedia nachgelesen).
What's the name of the painter? Thanks!
The first movement reminds me of Tom Sawyer for some reason
Is it me or do I detect some Wagnerian Ring influences in the orchestration of this symphony?
What is the artwork in the background? I love it!
+James Budzinski The painting is called The Heart of the Andes by Frederic Edwin Church
Yeah! Credit the artist!
@@LeStove thank you. That was my question, too, more on the top.
Not famous work. But Beautiful sound.
2:47
Good to put the pictures. Who is the painter? What is the title? When it was painted. Or it has and I did't seen it. Sometimes it was written here. For exemple this here I did'nt seen it.
The Heart of the Andes by Frederic Edwin Church
I hear strains of this in Sibelius.
I sense Wagnerian influence in at least some of the orchestral writing style of this symphony, to be honest.
Sibelius was 22 when this symphony was composed, Wagner influenced Bruch and Sibelius which is one of the reasons why you hear strains of this symphony in Sibelius. Especially in the motives & melodies !
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ブルッフの交響曲はもっと評価されるべき素晴らしい作品であるのにもかかわらず知名度が低い気がする。
Bruch s. 3
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Lil wayne is much better...youtube lil wayne
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Of course he is. Lil is as Lil as he can be.
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