Wilhelm Stenhammar - Symphony No.1 in F-major (1903)
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Wilhelm Stenhammar
Work: Symphony No.1 in F-major (1903)
Mov.I: Tempo molto tranquillo, Allegro 00:00
Mov.II: Andante con moto 17:59
Mov.III: Allegro amabile 31:59
Mov.IV: Allegro non troppo, ma con fuoco, Tranquillo 42:09
Orchestra: Sveriges Radios Symfoniorkester
Conductor: Yevgeny Svetlanov
So much music, so little time...Thank you KuhlauDilfeng2 for introducing me to more composers in a day than I've encountereed in years!
An extraterrestrial told me that on his planet Stenhammar's first symphony is generally regarded as the greatest work of art ever created by a human. I said I never even heard of Stenhammar. So this ET fellow takes out a gizmo and plays the symphony for me. I'm listening to it, and after about 10 minutes I say "C'mon, man. You've got to be kidding me. This is our greatest work of art ever?" He took the gizmo away and said "I'm not a man! Idiot! Stenhammar is wasted on you fools." He left, and that was that.
I highly concur! We are so Canon-centric on this planet.
r/thathappened
I believe it
This planet must not have Bruckner, Mahler, Nielsen, or Brahms 😂
Encore une belle découverte ! Merci d'avoir mis cette symphonie très mélodieuse en ligne !
Ce compositeur mériterait vraiment d'être plus connu ...
My god! The quasi-fugue section from the second movement! Beautiful! I admit that I am guilty of underestimating this man's work. What a delightful discovery. Absolutely amazing.
One of the most enchanting and amazing symphonies I've heard. I wish I could find more like this.
This symphony was rejected by Stennhammar as "too brucknerian". He found a new style leter on. Nevertheless, this symphony is quite intersting to discover, it is powerful and extremely well written. And the posterity kept it as "the first symphony of Stenhammar". Son, thank you for posting this intersting score.
It's really sad that composers feel the need to change their music based on the fact that is shares a similar style to another composer. Even though it shares similarities to Bruckner, the second movement has its own personality that I prefer over many of Bruckner's movements. Just think of what would have been lost if Ravel abandoned impressionist harmony early on if his peers told him it sounded too much like Debussy. There's way too much pressure in western art music to sound original and I think that stifles creativity. Originality is good, but if a composer can be expressive using an existing style then let them utilize it.
All this mumbling about Bruckner, this isn't a winetasting; " fruity notes and hints of oak". Maybe it's just people that should drink more wine, chill the analysis and just groove to the presentation. I think I'll just do my likes at the beginning, and not read the comments. For you listeners that appreciate this music and its presentation bless you for good taste and kindness. The rest of you should get together and create a society of mutual admiration so as to leave the rest of the civilized world alone. Maybe get a bunch, huge bunch of LEGOs to occupy your hands and mind so you can contain you vitriol through manual activity. This is beautiful music that sounds like the passion and talent of Stehammer put together to treat us to for a short period of sweetness and harmony.
„Stenhammar himself described the style of his First Symphony in F major as "idyllic Bruckner.””
This is probably due to a certain lack of impulse control, that some people believe they have to stick a label on the work for every spontaneous association and auditory memory. This simply turns it into a jigsaw puzzle that makes no sense.
Can't get enough of this symphony, especially the last movement!
Thanks, really getting into his symphonies and piano concertos. Can see why people mention Bruckner here but with a lighter touch. So much Kuhlau and so little time!
If I could right anything as half as good as this....! Amazing symphony. Thanks for posting
A bit like Bruckner, but it moves along with an entertaining style, rather than Bruckner, who stays still for an hour-and-a-half not saying anything.
34:48 fantastic!!
Interesting symphony, supressed by the composer as being not important yet although it might be a bit uneven, containing moments equal to any of the great composers of the late Romantic period. Deserves to be played more often! What a bonus to have the great Svetlanov conducting!
Svetlanov was outstanding, always.
@@gregorypalmer5403 Please look up his own compositions.
@@slothostpUL You are absolutely right. Genius !
I hear memories of Bruckner, Hans Rott, Brahms and Schumann throughout this. It definitely has some amazingly beautiful patches. I'd have to listen to it enough to know if it is of the caliber of the well known greats, but so far, even in the first movement, I have come across some very memorable passages.
Makes me sad that poor Rott only composed one symphony- and a magnificent one it was!
+Mister B, yes, it's true.
I agree. Rott's only symphony is amazing!!
Franz Schmidt too.
A totally unknown composer and here is one of the most beautiful symphonies of all time!!!
Pretty sure Stenhammar wasn't influenced by Hans Rott, as the latter's symphony was first performed in 1989, and Stenhammar did not study in Vienna where he might have been able to come across the unpublished score.
Marvelous!
This is almost like a Bruckner symphony!
Each listen provides a deeper understanding. The beauty which can be found is worth my time. Wish he had written more symphonies.
A truly great symphony. I love it more, each time I hear it. The Symphony #2 is just as excellent. I'm going to have to rate those two as soon of my favorites.
A truly great symphony with a memorable Scherzo.
Yes in 4 time!
No one has done so much for Stenhammar as Neeme Järvi.
Just discovered Stenhammar when I heard his Excelsior! Symphonic Overture on classical 91.7 in Houston. Just beautiful music!
One of my favorite Scandinavian symphonies!
Superb symphony!
Sound disappears at 14:52 and is back at 15:00.
Magnifique merci Kulhau . Carl Wilhelm Eugen Stenhammar est un compositeur, pianiste et chef d'orchestre suédois, né le 7 février 1871 à Stockholm et mort le 20 novembre 1927 à Jonsered dans la province historique de Västergötland.
Biographie
Il commence à apprendre le piano, entre à l'école de musique de Richard Andersson, travaille la théorie avec Joseph Dente et l'orgue avec Heintze et Lagerren. Puis il suit les cours de théorie avec Emil Sjörgren et Andreas Hallén. Après avoir étudié la musique à Stockholm, il part pour Berlin afin de perfectionner sa technique pianistique avec Karl Heinrich Barth (1892-93). Il fait alors des tournées de pianiste.
Il fait ses débuts de chef d'orchestre en 1897 en dirigeant son ouverture Excelsior !.
Il était dans sa jeunesse un fervent admirateur de la musique allemande, et particulièrement de celle de Richard Wagner et Anton Bruckner. Il s'est ensuite émancipé pour adopter un style « nordique », influencé par Carl Nielsen et Jean Sibelius. La symphonie nº 2 de Sibelius a été très importante pour Stenhammar.
De 1907 à 1922, il fut directeur artistique et chef d'orchestre de l'orchestre symphonique de Göteborg, le premier orchestre complètement professionnel de Suède. Il a également officié pendant une courte période en 1909 à l'Université d'Uppsala. Il eut parmi ses élèves le compositeur Hilding Rosenberg, l'un des précurseurs du modernisme en Suède.
L'œuvre
Liste des compositions
Œuvres pour orchestre
Symphonie no 1 en fa majeur (1902/03, créée à Stockholm en décembre en 1903, elle fut rejetée par son compositeur qui ne lui donna pas de numéro d'opus, la jugeant trop brücknerienne, surtout après qu'il découvre la même année la deuxième symphonie de Sibelius. Stenhammar ne l'a jamais plus fait rejouer de son vivant[1])
Symphonie no 2 en sol mineur, opus 34 (1911-15, création à Göteborg 22 avril 1915 sous la direction du musicien. De fait, la seule symphonie achevée reconnue par son auteur)
Symphonie no 3 en do majeur (1918/19, fragments)
Sérénade en fa majeur, opus 31 (1908-13, revu 1919)
Excelsior !, ouverture de concert, opus 13 (1896)*
Concerto pour piano no 1 en si bémol mineur, opus 1 (1893, création à Stockholm 17 mars 1894, avec le compositeur au piano qui le joua, par la suite, à Berlin, à Munich, à Manchester puis cessa de l’interpréter, à tel point que l'on crût que la partition fut perdue. Une copie n'en a été retrouvée qu'en 1990[1] )
Concerto pour piano no 2 en ré mineur, opus 23 (1904-07, création à Göteborg 15 avril 1908)
Deux romances sentimentales pour violon et orchestre, opus 28 (1910) (il existe également une version pour violon et piano et une autre pour flûte et orchestre[1])
Lodolezzi Sjunger, suite pour orchestre, opus 39 (1919)
Œuvres pour la scène
Gildet på Solhaug («La Fête de Solhaug»), opéra d'après Ibsen, Opus 6 (1893), créé en allemand sous le titre Das Fest auf Solhaug, Stuttgart, 12 avril 1899
Tirfing (opéra), opus 15 (Stockholm, 9 décembre 1898)
Bravo à vous pour toutes ces précisions . Un compositeur manifestement très honnête avec lui-même, puisqu'ayant refusé de répertorier cette oeuvre ! Une très belle symphonie , malgré tout !
Ceci étant, tout compositeur s'est inspiré , ici ou là, d'oeuvres de son époque ou antérieure à elle, non ?
Même Mozart ... Ce qui ne l'a pas empêché , comme d'autres, de se forger finalement son " style " caractéristique !
13:41 - lifted from first movement of Brahms 3.
Stenhammar died so relatively young (56). All his music is first rate. It is so unfortunate he did not get to compose more symphonies. As consolation there is, however, another great Swedish composer even more underperformed than Stenhammar: Kurt Atterberg. He composed some 9/10 symphonies and much other music, all first rate.
Not to forget Franz Berwald !
Sound the call!
@@olavtryggvason1194 Yes of course, but Berwald wrote much erlier and could be interestly compared for instance to Schubert or Mendelssohn. In addition, he spent a great part of his life serving medecine with much talent, which was obviouly good for his contemporaries ' health, but such a loss for music ! He avoided the heavy symphonic romantism of Schumann and his orchetration wad light and attractive. In Scandinavia outside Sweden, Gade (and after him Svendsen and of course Nielsen) seem to me quite important. In addition, I am not sos ure that Erkki Melartin was Swedish - I think so.
@@gerardbegni2806 Berwald left the music writing for orthopedy for one decade since he was disappointed.
Mozart died younger and composed much more... but he's Mozart.
The score is available through the publisher Swedish Musical Heritage
The part starting at 9:23 is one pure pleasure for my ears
Fantastic symphony! Some Bruckner by moment. I really love it!
This is a fantastic recording of Stenhammar's 1st Symphony. But one should be aware that the sound drops out after about 15 minutes in the 1st movement. This lasts about 8 seconds.
I owe so much to ALL CLASSICAL music 89.9 FM in Portland, Oregon for introducing to me so much wonderful music that I had never heard. This was one piece I heard around three years ago when COVID was appearing. I just love it for it's sublime moments of tranquility and well as the overall "subtle," for lack of a better word, energy the piece evokes. It reminds me of a magnificent sunrise.
another terrific classical surprise
I am grateful to you for the video!
The music - a source of joy, it can cause a good thought, it penetrates deep into our consciousness
Play music Soul.
Its melody is beautiful,
Sounds me incessantly
And pours quietly, slowly.
It sounds as if from the outside.
Me too.
How nice to meet people who share your feelings about the views
Лина Маркова You're a breathe of fresh air.
Thank you for words- so cute!
Thank you for your support and attention!
Thank you for your kindness and understanding!
I wish you joy, love and happiness to you
Лина Маркова A good symphony-yes. God bless you and keep you.
Hermosa composición.
Some really inspiring moments; what a great work!
Such a good piece to wallow in !!.
Um compositor totalmente desconhecido e compôs uma das mais belas sinfonias de todos os tempos!!!
Maybe unknown to you but in Scandinavia he is considered to be one of the great romantic nationalism composers.
A great symphony !!!!
Very enjoyable! Thanks for posting!
I am in agreement with other reviewers here; the fact that Stenhammar felt the symphony was too Bruchnerian does not detract from its positives. Sounding like someone doesn't mean you are someone else. Plaudits to Stenhammar for striving for a distinctive voice but to virtually disown this work is sad.
"Sounding like someone doesn't mean you--->aren't
And suddenly it ends like a scherzo from a Bruckner-symphony...the inner movements are the best ones.
The entire symphony is wonderful and the 2nd symphony even better.
This symphony is so good
on first time hearing it.
I really love it ❤ ❤ 29:39
First time i listened to this in decades In some ways I can understand Stenhammar rejecting this symphony as the outer movements are at times a bit too both ponderous and Brucknerian, despite some lovely music. The inner movements have a quite different character - the 2nd has a number of beautiful moments although I (unlike another commentator) find the fugato for instance rather prosaic. For me, the crowning glory of this work is the instantly memorable scherzo and here, unlike in the more generally highly regarded and individual second symphony, this movement is at least on a par and strikes me as having an affinity to Dvorak. Overall, I enjoyed re-acquainting myself with this symphony which deserves the odd outing in the concert hall. Of course there is not a single Swedish symphony in the international repertoire which is pretty scandalous -- from this period, Stenhammar and Alfven's 2nd should certainly be there just for starters.
Thank you for this upload :)
Stenhammar is the greatest swedish composer and "experts" clasified him a stept over Sibelius, Grieg and Nilssen.
Don't miss his two piano concertos and his Fantasy i B minor for piano.
Sound totally cuts out at around 14:50 for me. Anyone else?
Not only for you...
Same here
yes same result
I just whistle the next bit.
@@darrylschultz6479 yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa budddddddddddddddddddddyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
The horn section seems a bit more assured than those on the live recording I have with Jeervi and the Gothenburg. Regrettably the nimble to-and-fro in the woodwind is just as imprecise here as there 5:10. Svetlanov's idea of andante in the second movement is more like lento or adagio. But this is a great romantic work and i can listen happily to any number of performances.
Just think of the luxiourous moment you have that you can compare recordings of which none is bad!!
There is a blip at: 14:50 which could maybe be looked into.
The bit at 17.21 is best for me! Cascading string figurations at the climax!
Thinking about comparisons to Bruckner, he was cosmic, but this is so warm, homely, hygge
It sure does sound like Bruckner, esp. about 10:00. What is the painting? Looks like the upper section of Niagara Falls, the place that few tourists get to see.
This was great.. :)
i'm guilty for all the tears I shed, hearing the opening of this symphony, I can't! I simply can't stop listening to this music!
Nice and of course a Brucknerian one.
Danke
Who is here in 2021? If you listen to this in 2021 you are a legend!
I’m here but sadly not a legend
@@alanlacey9437 I was just writing that because I see this comment everywhere, it does not make sense at all. I was joking, without quite knowing what the joke is.
I'm here. with 40+ years of listening to classical music. I've heard Stenhammar before, but not this wonderful symphony.
I am here too !
Me too!
30:22: Bruckner´s 7th.
And what's wrong with it sounding like Bruckner? Would that more did.
Well, you're in luck, Gary., because there's the German composer Richard Wetz (1875-1935), who wrote very fine works in a Brucknerian vein. Here's a link to his Second Symphony: ua-cam.com/video/ZmHFcySu82s/v-deo.html
I concour wholeheartedly
Skøn symfoni !
11:46..... lush. Cool.
Deligthtful.
I hear a lot of Bruckner 7 at around the 30:00 mark. Still, a lovely piece.
and I hear Brahms and Beethoven in Bruckner 7 - your point is what now?
Above all, Wagner.
Oh ya, that's Bruckner for sure!
Stenhammer had an abreaction to his own work here, to Stenhammer 2. Does that make this bad? No.
me encanta 30:00 a 31:59
Muy buena ya soy fans de stenhammar y primers vez que la escucho
I wonder why? People cannot live without music.
Catastrophique, la publicité.
Thanks for the upload! The first movement's the one that got me straight away!
This is going to cause an uproar (mentioning anything but the music; yes, how impertinent): what is the piece of art you've chosen as the background? I like it :)
Reminds me of Bruckner.
Bruckner and Brahms were his inspiration, though he went off in another direction soon after this wonderful work :-(
He was blast away by Sibelius!! The reason he withdrew the whole work!! He was sure that the new nationalism was the way to go!! Hence his second symphony. But wait!! His serenade isn't that much far out this musical language!
I can see why the composer thought this symphony trivial; non of the ideas have a real bite; although it's masterly composed. Thank our lucky stars he wrote his second!
The second is a real masterpiece! Have you heard Blomstedt's interpretation which you can listen to on the web?
Yes there is no doubt his 2nd symphony is his masterpiece but that is no reason to put down the 1st. I couldn't give a damn about it being a bit "Brucknerian", it's overall an enjoyable work and in the end that's the purpose of music anyway.
The fourth movement sounds slightly Brucknerian to me
Er soll zwar die Symphonie zurückgezogen haben, jedoch hat er die Partitur gottlob nicht zerstört (im Gegensatz zu Sibelius, der seine Achte bekanntlich verbrannte).
Anderen Quellen zufolge hatte Sibelius seine achte Symphonie nicht fertiggestellt, sondern zerstörte nur die Entwürfe, welche aber schon relativ weit gediehen waren
Except in the finale - where he pulls all his stops out.
Quite interesting Symphony neglected by the same composer that would have been less brucknerian in the second, in a more scandinavian tune. He seems to be quite on the same level of Alfven as a Symphonist, but his best to me are the Piano concertos, really beautiful. Svetlanov is always a plus.
Tremendous stuff. Who cares if it's influenced by his musical heros? Wish he'd stuck to this style tbh.
Could you post the names of the images you use for your songs, please?
Agree
Edenic Christian -- This looks typically BIERSTADT. [Regards from San Agustinillo, Oaxaca]
Can anyone tell me any that are similar to this one other then the commonly well known symphonies? I'd like to hear more like it.
+Truthseeker R
the stenhammar first piano concerto is similar. also try the glazunov symphonies (no 1 & 5) , the korngold symphony are all beautiful romantic works.
Try the excellent symphonies nos. 3 and 4 by Alberic Magnard. They are different for sure but first class music in every way with amazing orchestration. Another unjustly neglected composer.
Elgar 1 and 2.
As far as the Swedish (or Nordic) composers, the symphonies of Kurt Atterberg are simply gorgeous, melodic and emotional works
I also found I like Hugo Alfven.
Stenhammear is a wonderful composer. But too seldom performed in concert halls. It is a great symphony but as he wrote himself: too Anton Bruckner like. He found a more personal path later on.
But to be too Bruckner... is the best of this...!
@@carlositurra4315 For me Bruckner is far too boring, I'd sooner listen to this symphony any time!
I prefer the 2nd symphony.
C’est comme si l’on entrait dans un de ces palaces d’Europe centrale à l’architecture pâtissière style religieuse au chocolat. Dans chaque pièce où l’on pénètre, les individus sont habillés en noir et blanc des pieds à la tête. Ils ont cette étrange absence dans les yeux tout en vous regardant fixement. Les plafonds sont peints, le mobilier d’un luxe indescriptible et le marbre veiné des tables reflète l’évanescente sérénité de l’endroit ! Tout y est rigide, jusqu’au temps qui s’écoule derrière les lambris, comme aux aguets 🕌
Quel est vraiment votre avis sur cette symphonie ? Trop empesée ..., conventionnelle ?
En tout cas, pour moi qui ne suis que mélomane, hélas, je la trouve très" symp...athique "
J'ai apprécié de " trouver " quelqu'un qui écrit ( encore ! ) un français sans fautes ...Ce fait méritait d'être souligné !
@@michelealba744 C'est une belle symphonie.. Le pouvoir expressif de l'architecture sonore rompt avec toute forme de transcription du réel pour s'attacher à l'expression d'un univers translucide & serein. 🤠🥳
@@MegaCirse De drôles de petites têtes...., qui expriment quoi , au juste ??
J'ai lu, ici ou là, quelques-unes de vos " analyses " ... Ne seriez- vous pas musicologue par hasard ?🤔🤔🤔
@@michelealba744 Euuu non, plutôt passionné de musique dans le sens le plus large du spectre et surtout musicien 🤠
@@MegaCirse Sie sind also Musiker ...Ich leider nur Musikliebhaber. Ich höre mir seit kurzer Zeit all diese wunderbaren Werke an, die on -line zu finden find .
Herrliche Entdeckungen von begabten Komponisten, die man heutzutage leider noch kaum kennt !
I still keep wondering why Svetlanov was able discover - and record - this magnificent symphony but other are simply unable. Are they all deaf? Must be, I have not other explanation. This is on par with almost all other symphonies on the regular repertoire. Why not this?? With all respect to Mahler or Bruckner but they are, in my humble opinion, quite inferior to this at least as far as understandability and satisfaction is concerned. I return to this time and time again and am sorry for most mainstream concert-goers who can't.
52.44 yummy.
Ein begabter Komponist mehr , der leider..................in Vergessenheit geraten ist !