Mr Talagiri has contributed a great deal to our knowledge of Vedic scriptures and civilization. He did with his time and money . We must support such gems like Mr Talagiri.
Dasrajadnya was essentially out of tussle for the supremacy between Bharat and other 10 aryan clans fuelled by professional rivalry between sages Vishwamitra & Vasishta.
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Excellent talk. We need this to be woven along with Indus Valley Civilization and how there is an unbroken continuum of Bharat Varsha from times immemorial.
I'm extremely impressed with the vast knowledge that Shrikant Talageri has on Indian languages. He is a scholar in Rig Veda and has a treasure of knowledge on Indian languages, collected over a lifetime, that he should be honored with a Padma Bhushan in my opinion.
In this vedio Westren Opponent of Rigvedic BHARATRaja Sudas Simyus-Sarmatian Sarmate Sairma Simyu ua-cam.com/video/5baHyKGnI2A/v-deo.html in Ukrainian Russian Stepe
Just moments ago, I finished reading your riveting blogpost on the “Identity of the Enemies of Sudas...” Quite the page-turner and also quite plausible. Not that I’m a scholar, just a Hindu (and retired nurse) who avidly reads on these subjects. Also, I happen to be one of those “lefty liberal types” persuaded to Aryan migration. No matter. Credit where credit is due! And a boatload of credit is due to you, sir! Thank you so much for the hard work of producing such an informative and memorable article. Believe me, I’ll be respecting that perspective going forward. Best regards and best wishes.
I wanted to know about the story about the 10 king's battle for ages also because it's mentioned in the Northern Gods Saga too i read the other day from a European FB friend when we were discussing the roots of the Northern Gods! Thank you Sir very much! This should be a good researched video! ❤🙏
Good crucial points on the migration evidence from the rigveda... unfortunately we have lost so many of our scriptures we have derived so much out of those pieces of evidence is truly commendable.
Important and informative subject so well explained Always the lectures you arrange for your channel are such. If it can be managed to dub it in hindi the important information will reach to more people
I was so keen to listen to the speaker in this video, unfortunately the audio is so poor with constant cracking sound that it makes this serious talk almost impossible to hear with ease. Why do you even upload such remarkable subject with poor audio ? I request you to ask the speaker to make another video with better audio please.
dasrajdnya is earliest record of first ever all state vaidic time war between 10 kings under sage Vishvamitra against Divodasa king of dominant Bhararat clan under sage Vashista.
I'm really disappointed that he didn't talk about Trikshi (Ikshvaku) Druhyu War which resulted in Druhyus completely leaving the Subcontinent and went beyond Afghanistan.
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I’m amazed at the revelations made in this video by learned scholars. 🙏🏻 I have a question though, if Arabic people worshiped Shiva in Kaaba, and even used to visit Somnath ji , why then their later generations turned rouge and plundered the same temples until they were absolutely destroyed.
Thank you Mr Talageri! Would you please share which articles from your blog or which book deals with the migrations you referred to here around minute 57? I would greatly appreciate it. I am studying your work closely. Thank you for the earnest work! Peace
The fire rituals are very important of people migrating as the iceage declines. The prefix A' or Suffix 'A also denotes direction of travel / worship A'sura goes West and the Sura'a go east. This would be beacause the general diraction of travel will follow the Sun as the ice declines. so it follows A'brahm goes west and Brahm'A remains east. Like wise the written scripts right to left for those going west, left to right for those going East. Out of India also means that the coastal areas of the Peninsular (Drav'ida) would be populated and moving upwards and and outwards.
Why do people say Sanskrit is an ancient but not a living language? The epic RAAMAYANA has the KAALACHAKRA date 12209 BCE and the SAMSKRTA language follows all PAANINI’s rules. Unless PAANINI could travel in time to RAAMAYANA days his grammar rules of ASTAADHAAYI were known before RAAMAYANA and SAMSKRTA was frozen to be changeless. It looks strange that a language couldn’t change over such a long period of time but there it is. RAAMAYANA is fully understandable today by anyone. As for as living language is concerned, commentaries of Vedic texts were done in the near past ,say before Islamic raids in about 1000 CE. MAHAABHAARATA is similarly dated to 5561BCE with a huge gap of about 12,000 years. Rg Veda was already known by RAAMAYANA and if these dates are correctly derived, where would the DASHARAAGNA war fit in this timeline?
We all know the truth. But the western judeo-christian scholars find it difficult to accept the truth. They find it very uncomfortable that a civilisation could've existed so far beyond and far before their biblical fantasies.
Sir what about the story behind fish eating practice of saraswat community? Is it a special specie of fish which does not die even cutting in to 2 parts like earthworm?
Dr. Shrikant Talgeri has contributed a lot to indology. His works are particularly very interesting in areas of liguistics and study of Avesta. His deliberations on ancient tribes is really great. However his deduced chronology of rigved isn't correct. With work of Nilesh Oak, Rupa Bhaty, time of rigveda goes many milleniums back. Thanx.
It would be a better listening experience if the videos were split into shorter part 1, 2 etc. Also the speaker while extremely knowledgeable on the topic needs to have a calmer more relaxed style of talking. It would help us understand better rather than have facts hurled at us. What could have been an absorbing and informative episode has become exhausting instead.
Can somebody please explain me if Sudas was a Puru King why waged war against his own people, the Purus? Bharata dynasty could be the descendants of Bharata the grand son of Sagara who is mentioned in Ramayana, Buddhist text like Dipavamsa and Jain text. This Solar dynasty Bharata has gone into oblivion and Dushmanti Bharata of Lunar dynasty has come into prominence in the puranas written by the sages who served the Lunar dynasty kings But in Buddhist and the Jain text the Solar dynasty Bharata has lived a long time before Dushmanti Bharata.So if he was an emperor the Bharata might has got the name from him rather than the Lunar dynasty Bharata who lived after him. I personally believe there is some confusion in identification of Bharata in the battle of ten kings. In Puranas as well as Jain text we hear about Surya Vamsi Kings Sagara and Bharata having wars with Chandra vamsi tribes as well as minor branches of Suriya Vamis tribes living in the West. So could this King who won the Battle of Ten Kings be the Solar Dyasty King Sudas, or Sudarshana in the Buddhist text, Ramayana and Puranas (especially in Bhavishya Purana?) Few reasons I can show for this, 1. Sages of Vashista line were the family priests of Solar Dynasty Kings from the earliest times. They have served Kings like Sagara as well as Dasaratha. So how come this sage in the Battle of Ten Kings serve a Lunar King Saudas? 2. If we consider Sudas In the battle of Ten kings there is no representative from the very powerful Solar Dynasty, which is very strange. 3. A similar war fought by Emperor Sagara with the help of Sage Vashista is mentioned in the puranas with the Mleccha tribes. A similar description comes in Jain text as well. So is it possible for his descendant (Saudas) to have a similar war with the same tribes with the help and guidance of a sage Vashista?
Read all the books of Talageri. Or watch all his episodes then you will understand. Btw Purus were not fighting with purus. Their conflict was with other tribes like yadus, ilchakus, druhyus, etc. Puranas contain stories and should not be compared with Veda. All the references you made are known to Talageri. Initially, Talageri had started studying the puranas with Vedas which caused more confusion. I'll cite one example. In puranas, we know of vashisth as a brahmin and vishwamitra as a kshtriya turned brahmin. But if you read Rigveda, there is mention of vishwamitra coming to help sudas with yagnas, mantras, rituals,etc. Whereas vashisth helps sudas with not only the yagnas, rituals but also in the battles. Although not explicitly mentioned but the little descriptions of the 2 sages in Rigveda tell a slightly different story. Vashisth seems like a kshatriya-brahmin while vishwamitra a ritualistic brahmin.
@@mridulamishra9737 He was an emperor and his name appears in Ramayana and Mahawamsa.This was not Prince Ramachandra's brother but an ancestor who has ruled in Satya yuga
Sangama talks with due respect can I get the answer from SHRI SHRIKANT TALAGERI JI about a tribe mentioned in RIGVEDA ..... The KIKATA ..... Who were they .... What was there origin .... Were they of lunar race or solar race .....
i have read this battle of 10 kings ..there no mention anywhere who king sudas was .Maybe he was not even a tutsi...It seems he was placed there by rishi vashist and lord indra to lead the tutsis against the mainly chandervansi linage ...of Bhartias..puru..anu ..Yadu and others
Indian people migrated to Europe called Plytomy people or Gangani people, having knowledge of Maths and Astronomy. Came from bank of Ganga. The word gang comes from this. Ancient Ireland river names are Gangani and Kavery. Ancient arab king kingdom Assyrian put title Asura before their names. Country names end with Stan is purely Sanskri word means place
He said in the video that South Indian temples and worship were in vogue, similar to the philosophical undercurrents of the Bihar region. Moreover, the Dravidian correspondence with Vedic Sanskrit is evident in some Vedic words like käNa ( kaN = eye), nîra (nîr = water) having Dravidian borrowings. It is also well known that Indus Valley part of the civilisation obtained gold from Kolar’s gold mines. Keezhadi excavations have revealed that South India had similar urban settlements. I am sure that with further archaeological research, more light will be thrown on the on-goings elsewhere. Whole of India is a veritable gold mine as far as archaeology is concerned. It’s only that our ASI is a lazy, old, rickety organization that needs to be revamped with fresh, young people.
Anus were a vast group.....some migrated to east while most of them migrated west.Its recorded in earliest puranas, even druhyus [druids] moved westward...
I have observed most of the speakers use very high pitch when they are taking. Ears hurt when listening to such long videos.. However, the topic is very interesting but unable to go at it in single sitting. Request the audio to go easy on the ears for old people like me.
It's absurd and contradictory when the Speaker says even now after 2000 years after puranas are aggregated and discussed we modern day humans remember puranic wars, context, characters etc but 2000 years back when puranas were compiled they did not remember the vedic wars, context and characters which must be another 2000 odd years older to puranic age?? They forgot all about it and fabricated stuff in puranas? This argument stands on flimsy ground! Does it mean the composers of puranas didn't have good memory but we in 20th century have better memory??
He doesn't says that puranas when composed were totally fabricated stories, but over time people have interpolated lot of stuff which no academician can take into account. Ya but we can studies it and takes idea but to established history hr cannot take into consideration.
Defeated kings left Bharat varsh and took refuge in various lands around India.Sage Vishvamitra left for Iran n influenced Zorastrian set up of their God's with that of vaidic Devas..
@@saiecorp5646 We do not have proper records about later days of sage Vishvamitra. But going by the dates, it can be said that he influenced Avestans to portray Vedic Devas in negative.
@@shekharb2981 Sir, why do you spread such misinformation. If you have seen video of Shrikant Talegari, he has clearly warned to talk without basis. Avestan gods are not vedic gods and there is not a shred of proof that Vishwamitra left India. Please watch carefully what Tageri says. Thanx a lot. 🙏
@@saiecorp5646 I never said Avestan and Vedic gods are same. This is a mix by you. you may be a newcomer to on subject . More study is reqd. Best Luck.
@@shekharb2981 You are a newcomer. Please stop this nonsense. First of all you made wrong statement without listening discourse and now talking utter nonsense. I respected but calling you sir but you don't deserve. You don't have right to call yourself student of vedic studies.
To put the most extreme case, the Hittites had plenty of time prior to coming OUT OF India (as per Talageris model, which I agree with) to have ENTERED India from the steppe region anytime after 3000bce, taking on board elements of IVC culture in the process. This is not simple mental gymnastics on my part but a very serious model I have been working on for over a decade now and that I have not seen any refutation of anywhere or by any evidence. This is probably because it is correct.
Sir if u can research u will find Iran (the burning flame .. n whr it came from within iran(now an isolated place) has a warm pool=kund too) is the actual place of Brahma (ofcourse as we know yadus disregarded not only Indra but brhma too) same fire is worshipped by zorastrians/jews(so jews r descendants of rishis ..as palestine is nothing but pulust region)
2ndly .. U find similarities betn Egypt stories and daksh story .. there is again an isolated ancient remains with a story of one of the daughter of a king jumping into fire(now fire place same as agnikund) same as Sati.. And if we analyze u will see traces of why Muslims sacrifice Goat(makar,bakra) as daksh was beheaded n placed with makar head .. n thn he worshipped Shiv &created a Shivling which was known as Makareshwar later distorted as Mecca
The pushkar was recreated in Western part bharat by vedic followers who had to migrate towards South due to onslaught of traditions/cults defying anything ancient of their times(which later turned into crusades/jihad) ..which was deemed n distorted by distorians as Aryan Invasion..
That is why till today many migrate to save thr faith towards southern part of continent namely Bharat .. While who seek wealth etc migrate upwards .. so buisness went from south to north while cultures came from north to south to save themselves
I like this guy and would like to understand him. He is too fast and his accent makes it hard to understand. Too bad, becoz of one state we do not have a common language and have to remain slaves to a foreign language. The trouble is that our higher education in all states is in English SO STUPID. We shud learn in our regional languages even in colleges. And we shud learn and communicate with different states in Sanskrit.
The puranas are important to understand Rigveda. There is no reason for our ancient Rishis to corrupt puranas. I don't agree with Shrikant Talageri on his interpretation.
Was there an Aryan Invasion ? Yes there was. King Bharata moved to areas of UP and Bihar in around 1500 BC according to the Rig-Vedas. This is history and true. Before the Aryan Invasion, the various tribes had lived there from Africa about 50000 BC. Around 25000 to 15000 BC another Pre-Aryan tribe lived who came from Iran. The Aryan King Bharat was lighter skinned since they had migrated from Africa, Botswana about 200000 - 50000 BC as homo-sapiens. and lived in Iran for about 30000 years and then landed in UP and Bihar in 1500 BC. The other tribes. all of India had also came to India in 50000 BC from Africa were Dark Skinned because they migrated directly without staying in Iran, and first arrived at Tamil Nadu, Sri Lanka, Andaman Islands and were also fishermen living on the coastal regions of India. The pre-Aryans tribes around 15000 BC who settled in the North of India in UP and Bihar before the Indus Valley, where descendents of King Rama of Ayodhaya. The skin tones of Kashmiri's and Punjabis and because of mixture of migrations and invasions is have lighter skinned than UP's and Bihari's. The people who are Farmer's of UP/Bihar and who sell Bhel-puri and Pani-puri's (Gol-Gappa's) in various places in Mumbai and Delhi are referred at Bhaiya-ji's as well as a the higher class Agrawal's, Gupta's ... are pre-aryans and not the Vedic Aryans who migrated to India in 1500 BC according to the British
The part of the Aryan Invasion that most people are missing, is that many of them came by sea, and landed in the Punjab, what they called Five-Rivers. Read "The Oera Linda" and it will start to make more sense.
Indian Govt should give Mr Talageri Padma Award. How many of you support it?
Mr Talagiri has contributed a great deal to our knowledge of Vedic scriptures and civilization. He did with his time and money . We must support such gems like Mr Talagiri.
Agree. He has created foundation of cultural knowledge net placing them in chronology. We are great by standing on shoulders of giants.
@@112deeps Great part is Talagiri did himself . lone worrier. No Govt support etc.
Rbh/Lbh word produced in modern indo Aryan languages word like Lap( लप)- हथेली,lapad (लपड़)-थपड़,lapo (लपो)-हथेली etc chap( चप) - होंठ.
I support
Excellent. A totally a new picture of Ancient India and the world emerges from this.
Fascinating view one side Vedas, one side philosophy, one side tantaric, idol puranas
Sir in RigVedic Anu clan/ Aanavas king name Kavi Chayman Parthava ( Parthian)ua-cam.com/video/Xexi6JiRepk/v-deo.html
Iranian Kavian Dynasty King name Kavi Kubad &Kavi Kavat,Kavi Vistasp petronant of Jarathusthtra Joraster 8000BCEua-cam.com/video/Q7Jxb_ihRxE/v-deo.html Solid Evidence
Ishvar almighty aapko sada sukhi rakhe Talgeri saheb.
Vishvamitra, Vasishta, Krishna, Vasudev are names of clans..
Dasrajadnya was essentially out of tussle for the supremacy between Bharat and other 10 aryan clans fuelled by professional rivalry between sages Vishwamitra & Vasishta.
Is God Shiv represents male dominance & Is Apsara represents female dominance in society?
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Big daddy of Vedic linguistics 🤘
Excellent talk. We need this to be woven along with Indus Valley Civilization and how there is an unbroken continuum of Bharat Varsha from times immemorial.
I'm extremely impressed with the vast knowledge that Shrikant Talageri has on Indian languages. He is a scholar in Rig Veda and has a treasure of knowledge on Indian languages, collected over a lifetime, that he should be honored with a Padma Bhushan in my opinion.
Mr Talagiri is doing great work for our Vedic religion
Please re-record with good audio. Excellent content
The audio improves significantly after the first 20 minutes.
In this vedio Westren Opponent of Rigvedic BHARATRaja Sudas Simyus-Sarmatian Sarmate Sairma Simyu ua-cam.com/video/5baHyKGnI2A/v-deo.html in Ukrainian Russian Stepe
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I have heard his talk before, very logical and straightforward
Great knowledge great person
Talking real history without any problem
Just moments ago, I finished reading your riveting blogpost on the “Identity of the Enemies of Sudas...” Quite the page-turner and also quite plausible. Not that I’m a scholar, just a Hindu (and retired nurse) who avidly reads on these subjects.
Also, I happen to be one of those “lefty liberal types” persuaded to Aryan migration. No matter. Credit where credit is due! And a boatload of credit is due to you, sir! Thank you so much for the hard work of producing such an informative and memorable article. Believe me, I’ll be respecting that perspective going forward. Best regards and best wishes.
We now need role of archeologists as our emminent historians have almost carried out set up of true history.
Audio clipping a bit at beginning. Improves in latter part . Can it be post processed?
Very important talk. Please try.
I too felt the same.
Elst & Talageri in one talk 🙏
I wanted to know about the story about the 10 king's battle for ages also because it's mentioned in the Northern Gods Saga too i read the other day from a European FB friend when we were discussing the roots of the Northern Gods! Thank you Sir very much! This should be a good researched video! ❤🙏
I love the logic and perspective that Srikanth sir brings to the Rigveda and vedic period history...
But the audio of this video is terrible...🤦🏻♂️
জয় রাধে, জয় শ্রীকৃষ্ণ🙏🙏🙏
Valuable information sir. 🙏
Good crucial points on the migration evidence from the rigveda... unfortunately we have lost so many of our scriptures we have derived so much out of those pieces of evidence is truly commendable.
Important and informative subject so well explained
Always the lectures you arrange for your channel are such.
If it can be managed to dub it in hindi the important information will reach to more people
Excellent work sir. Huge respect 🙌
I was so keen to listen to the speaker in this video, unfortunately the audio is so poor with constant cracking sound that it makes this serious talk almost impossible to hear with ease.
Why do you even upload such remarkable subject with poor audio ? I request you to ask the speaker to make another video with better audio please.
Big Fan of Shree Taligiri ji🙏🙏🙏🙏
dasrajdnya is earliest record of first ever all state vaidic time war between 10 kings under sage Vishvamitra against Divodasa king of dominant Bhararat clan under sage Vashista.
Finally
I'm really disappointed that he didn't talk about Trikshi (Ikshvaku) Druhyu War which resulted in Druhyus completely leaving the Subcontinent and went beyond Afghanistan.
Actually he talked about it in the Q&A my bad.
@@pakshirajan8585 correct me if I am wrong Is Sakuni was a descendant of King Druhyu(the third son of Yayati)
@@puneetsingh802 I think he was.
Could they have formed the Druids?
This was an excellent insight for us...im only disappointed by the poor audio...🙁...i wish he does proper podcast episodes or audio book
Thank you for the accurate subtitles. 🙌
Amazing information and great discourse.
Best analysis
very interesting
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I’m amazed at the revelations made in this video by learned scholars. 🙏🏻
I have a question though, if Arabic people worshiped Shiva in Kaaba, and even used to visit Somnath ji , why then their later generations turned rouge and plundered the same temples until they were absolutely destroyed.
Cz of mohmad asur...
@@bravenangeli sir, that asur real or just some random one whoes story has been used to creat and peddle own ideas by the ruling class of time.
Arabs were polytheists they were influenced by byazntine Christians to become monotheists.
Thanks
Thank you Mr Talageri! Would you please share which articles from your blog or which book deals with the migrations you referred to here around minute 57? I would greatly appreciate it. I am studying your work closely. Thank you for the earnest work! Peace
Write "shrikant talageri blogs" you will find all of them.
it is a gem🙏
Excellent content ❤worst sound quality 😢
The fire rituals are very important of people migrating as the iceage declines. The prefix A' or Suffix 'A also denotes direction of travel / worship A'sura goes West and the Sura'a go east. This would be beacause the general diraction of travel will follow the Sun as the ice declines. so it follows A'brahm goes west and Brahm'A remains east. Like wise the written scripts right to left for those going west, left to right for those going East. Out of India also means that the coastal areas of the Peninsular (Drav'ida) would be populated and moving upwards and and outwards.
Sir plz throw some light on Queen Vishpala mentioned in Vedas
Why do people say Sanskrit is an ancient but not a living language?
The epic RAAMAYANA has the KAALACHAKRA date 12209 BCE and the SAMSKRTA language follows all PAANINI’s rules.
Unless PAANINI could travel in time to RAAMAYANA days his grammar rules of ASTAADHAAYI were known before RAAMAYANA and SAMSKRTA was frozen to be changeless.
It looks strange that a language couldn’t change over such a long period of time but there it is. RAAMAYANA is fully understandable today by anyone.
As for as living language is concerned, commentaries of Vedic texts were done in the near past ,say before Islamic raids in about 1000 CE.
MAHAABHAARATA is similarly dated to 5561BCE with a huge gap of about 12,000 years. Rg Veda was already known by RAAMAYANA and if these dates are correctly derived, where would the DASHARAAGNA war fit in this timeline?
We all know the truth. But the western judeo-christian scholars find it difficult to accept the truth. They find it very uncomfortable that a civilisation could've existed so far beyond and far before their biblical fantasies.
Sangam talks needs to improve a lot on video and audio quality
Now genetics studies also strengthening the OIT theory given by Talgiri ji.
Please improve the sound quality.
Are the Anu related to the sumerian god Anu ? Thank you sir. I support Mr Talageri's Padma Award.
@@mahipalcharan6690 thank you brother.
Anunaki and Anunaga seems similar!
Sir what about the story behind fish eating practice of saraswat community? Is it a special specie of fish which does not die even cutting in to 2 parts like earthworm?
Dr. Shrikant Talgeri has contributed a lot to indology. His works are particularly very interesting in areas of liguistics and study of Avesta. His deliberations on ancient tribes is really great. However his deduced chronology of rigved isn't correct. With work of Nilesh Oak, Rupa Bhaty, time of rigveda goes many milleniums back. Thanx.
It would be a better listening experience if the videos were split into shorter part 1, 2 etc. Also the speaker while extremely knowledgeable on the topic needs to have a calmer more relaxed style of talking. It would help us understand better rather than have facts hurled at us. What could have been an absorbing and informative episode has become exhausting instead.
Great
we all should read our puranas shiva puran vishnu puran brahma puran kalika puran kurma puran etc..
can sound track be corrected ... a humble request
Good job.Namaskar
Only complaint is Audio is not clear.
Can somebody please explain me if Sudas was a Puru King why waged war against his own people, the Purus? Bharata dynasty could be the descendants of Bharata the grand son of Sagara who is mentioned in Ramayana, Buddhist text like Dipavamsa and Jain text.
This Solar dynasty Bharata has gone into oblivion and Dushmanti Bharata of Lunar dynasty has come into prominence in the puranas written by the sages who served the Lunar dynasty kings But in Buddhist and the Jain text the Solar dynasty Bharata has lived a long time before Dushmanti Bharata.So if he was an emperor the Bharata might has got the name from him rather than the Lunar dynasty Bharata who lived after him.
I personally believe there is some confusion in identification of Bharata in the battle of ten kings. In Puranas as well as Jain text we hear about Surya Vamsi Kings Sagara and Bharata having wars with Chandra vamsi tribes as well as minor branches of Suriya Vamis tribes living in the West. So could this King who won the Battle of Ten Kings be the Solar Dyasty King Sudas, or Sudarshana in the Buddhist text, Ramayana and Puranas (especially in Bhavishya Purana?)
Few reasons I can show for this,
1. Sages of Vashista line were the family priests of Solar Dynasty Kings from the earliest times. They have served Kings like Sagara as well as Dasaratha. So how come this sage in the Battle of Ten Kings serve a Lunar King Saudas?
2. If we consider Sudas In the battle of Ten kings there is no representative from the very powerful Solar Dynasty, which is very strange.
3. A similar war fought by Emperor Sagara with the help of Sage Vashista is mentioned in the puranas with the Mleccha tribes. A similar description comes in Jain text as well.
So is it possible for his descendant (Saudas) to have a similar war with the same tribes with the help and guidance of a sage Vashista?
Read all the books of Talageri. Or watch all his episodes then you will understand.
Btw Purus were not fighting with purus. Their conflict was with other tribes like yadus, ilchakus, druhyus, etc.
Puranas contain stories and should not be compared with Veda. All the references you made are known to Talageri. Initially, Talageri had started studying the puranas with Vedas which caused more confusion.
I'll cite one example.
In puranas, we know of vashisth as a brahmin and vishwamitra as a kshtriya turned brahmin.
But if you read Rigveda, there is mention of vishwamitra coming to help sudas with yagnas, mantras, rituals,etc. Whereas vashisth helps sudas with not only the yagnas, rituals but also in the battles.
Although not explicitly mentioned but the little descriptions of the 2 sages in Rigveda tell a slightly different story. Vashisth seems like a kshatriya-brahmin while vishwamitra a ritualistic brahmin.
@@mridulamishra9737 Yes, I realized that I was wrong after making the comment
@@mridulamishra9737 But there has been a bharata in ikshwaku dynasty before devi Sakuntala's son.
@@mridulamishra9737 He was an emperor and his name appears in Ramayana and Mahawamsa.This was not Prince Ramachandra's brother but an ancestor who has ruled in Satya yuga
@@maddagedonroshan970 ok 🙂
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Vandemataram
Sangama talks with due respect can I get the answer from SHRI SHRIKANT TALAGERI JI about a tribe mentioned in RIGVEDA .....
The KIKATA .....
Who were they ....
What was there origin ....
Were they of lunar race or solar race .....
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i have read this battle of 10 kings ..there no mention anywhere who king sudas was .Maybe he was not even a tutsi...It seems he was placed there by rishi vashist and lord indra to lead the tutsis against the mainly chandervansi linage ...of Bhartias..puru..anu ..Yadu and others
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What is the major stumbling block in deciphering Indus script, which along with genome study can elaborate history.
Indian people migrated to Europe called Plytomy people or Gangani people, having knowledge of Maths and Astronomy. Came from bank of Ganga. The word gang comes from this. Ancient Ireland river names are Gangani and Kavery. Ancient arab king kingdom Assyrian put title Asura before their names. Country names end with Stan is purely Sanskri word means place
After Dasarajdnya wars,earlier land areas called Aryavart was changed into Bharatvarsh.
Sapta sindhu. Name of bharat tribe in seventh book. In third book name of Rama. In Ramayan also find name of India as bharat
Aryavarta was used during the Maurya periods too , for example by Chanakya in Arthashastra
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Around 21:00, it mentions 'ANU',
Does it have any relation to the followers of Anunakis
Sound quality is horrible.
Uttar Kuru - Uyi Gur - Uigur (Chin occupied Turkistan)
Good talk spoiled by poor audio 😢
wish the audio quality was not so poor! what a waste! he is explaining such amazing facts
Better present in Hindi for more eloquence
Isn't there a similarity betn Asita Rishi father of Shandilya Rishi and Avesta 🙏 another jew hindu/vedic connection or jew rishi lineage
Can anyone explain what was going on this time in southern part of India?
We do not have any evidence of what is going on in the south
He said in the video that South Indian temples and worship were in vogue, similar to the philosophical undercurrents of the Bihar region. Moreover, the Dravidian correspondence with Vedic Sanskrit is evident in some Vedic words like käNa ( kaN = eye), nîra (nîr = water) having Dravidian borrowings. It is also well known that Indus Valley part of the civilisation obtained gold from Kolar’s gold mines. Keezhadi excavations have revealed that South India had similar urban settlements. I am sure that with further archaeological research, more light will be thrown on the on-goings elsewhere. Whole of India is a veritable gold mine as far as archaeology is concerned. It’s only that our ASI is a lazy, old, rickety organization that needs to be revamped with fresh, young people.
@@rmohan3240 not lazy it's only work on the basis of season and money
Use CC, they are pretty clear
Going beyond this, we have some relations with Devlok & Rakshasas assumed to be located around present Babylonia.
Anu was sent to present ganga Brahmaputra delta by yayati? If yes the how can we explain anu dynasty being near pakistan during dasarajna battle?
Anus were a vast group.....some migrated to east while most of them migrated west.Its recorded in earliest puranas, even druhyus [druids] moved westward...
Good talk that could have been sans ad hominem and ascribing intentions to people with different viewpoints.
This is mantioned in Rugved.Land thereafter started calling itself as Bharatvarsh.
Without doing hindi translation you can't spread these messages to everyone
I believe Vrittasur/ Vritra is used for Tornado moving in circular motion and Thunder were seen as attack on it by Indra....
Exactly
Read Main Aryaputra hoon by Manoj Singh too. Corroborates this
Good research done, however little bit of open mind towards other's point of view will help Mr. Shrikant!!
I have observed most of the speakers use very high pitch when they are taking. Ears hurt when listening to such long videos.. However, the topic is very interesting but unable to go at it in single sitting. Request the audio to go easy on the ears for old people like me.
It's absurd and contradictory when the Speaker says even now after 2000 years after puranas are aggregated and discussed we modern day humans remember puranic wars, context, characters etc but 2000 years back when puranas were compiled they did not remember the vedic wars, context and characters which must be another 2000 odd years older to puranic age?? They forgot all about it and fabricated stuff in puranas? This argument stands on flimsy ground! Does it mean the composers of puranas didn't have good memory but we in 20th century have better memory??
He doesn't says that puranas when composed were totally fabricated stories, but over time people have interpolated lot of stuff which no academician can take into account. Ya but we can studies it and takes idea but to established history hr cannot take into consideration.
Defeated kings left Bharat varsh and took refuge in various lands around India.Sage Vishvamitra left for Iran n influenced Zorastrian set up of their God's with that of vaidic Devas..
@Shekhar, from where do you this information? There is no mention of rhishi Vishwamitra leaving India and going somewhere.
@@saiecorp5646 We do not have proper records about later days of sage Vishvamitra. But going by the dates, it can be said that he influenced Avestans to portray Vedic Devas in negative.
@@shekharb2981 Sir, why do you spread such misinformation. If you have seen video of Shrikant Talegari, he has clearly warned to talk without basis. Avestan gods are not vedic gods and there is not a shred of proof that Vishwamitra left India. Please watch carefully what Tageri says. Thanx a lot. 🙏
@@saiecorp5646 I never said Avestan and Vedic gods are same. This is a mix by you. you may be a newcomer to on subject . More study is reqd. Best Luck.
@@shekharb2981 You are a newcomer. Please stop this nonsense. First of all you made wrong statement without listening discourse and now talking utter nonsense. I respected but calling you sir but you don't deserve. You don't have right to call yourself student of vedic studies.
To put the most extreme case, the Hittites had plenty of time prior to coming OUT OF India (as per Talageris model, which I agree with) to have ENTERED India from the steppe region anytime after 3000bce, taking on board elements of IVC culture in the process.
This is not simple mental gymnastics on my part but a very serious model I have been working on for over a decade now and that I have not seen any refutation of anywhere or by any evidence. This is probably because it is correct.
You did not find a refutation because you didn't look for it. Shrikant's book talks about all of this bs in detail.
Sir if u can research u will find Iran (the burning flame .. n whr it came from within iran(now an isolated place) has a warm pool=kund too) is the actual place of Brahma (ofcourse as we know yadus disregarded not only Indra but brhma too) same fire is worshipped by zorastrians/jews(so jews r descendants of rishis ..as palestine is nothing but pulust region)
2ndly .. U find similarities betn Egypt stories and daksh story .. there is again an isolated ancient remains with a story of one of the daughter of a king jumping into fire(now fire place same as agnikund) same as Sati..
And if we analyze u will see traces of why Muslims sacrifice Goat(makar,bakra) as daksh was beheaded n placed with makar head .. n thn he worshipped Shiv &created a Shivling which was known as Makareshwar later distorted as Mecca
The pushkar was recreated in Western part bharat by vedic followers who had to migrate towards South due to onslaught of traditions/cults defying anything ancient of their times(which later turned into crusades/jihad) ..which was deemed n distorted by distorians as Aryan Invasion..
That is why till today many migrate to save thr faith towards southern part of continent namely Bharat ..
While who seek wealth etc migrate upwards .. so buisness went from south to north while cultures came from north to south to save themselves
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Sab ko English Nehi pata. Hindi me programme Kijiye. Bharat Ko Janne ke liye Foreign Language Nehi. Bhartiya
Bhasa Me Baat Kare.
why call our ancestors tribes? The english translation used is so colonial , not appealing
Please read parigter
next time tell this man to use headphone
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I like this guy and would like to understand him. He is too fast and his accent makes it hard to understand.
Too bad, becoz of one state we do not have a common language and have to remain slaves to a foreign language.
The trouble is that our higher education in all states is in English SO STUPID.
We shud learn in our regional languages even in colleges.
And we shud learn and communicate with different states in Sanskrit.
And audio just makes it worse
The puranas are important to understand Rigveda. There is no reason for our ancient Rishis to corrupt puranas. I don't agree with Shrikant Talageri on his interpretation.
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216But he did a phenomenal job on Rigveda.
Was there an Aryan Invasion ? Yes there was. King Bharata moved to areas of UP and Bihar in around 1500 BC according to the Rig-Vedas. This is history and true. Before the Aryan Invasion, the various tribes had lived there from Africa about 50000 BC. Around 25000 to 15000 BC another Pre-Aryan tribe lived who came from Iran. The Aryan King Bharat was lighter skinned since they had migrated from Africa, Botswana about 200000 - 50000 BC as homo-sapiens. and lived in Iran for about 30000 years and then landed in UP and Bihar in 1500 BC. The other tribes. all of India had also came to India in 50000 BC from Africa were Dark Skinned because they migrated directly without staying in Iran, and first arrived at Tamil Nadu, Sri Lanka, Andaman Islands and were also fishermen living on the coastal regions of India. The pre-Aryans tribes around 15000 BC who settled in the North of India in UP and Bihar before the Indus Valley, where descendents of King Rama of Ayodhaya. The skin tones of Kashmiri's and Punjabis and because of mixture of migrations and invasions is have lighter skinned than UP's and Bihari's. The people who are Farmer's of UP/Bihar and who sell Bhel-puri and Pani-puri's (Gol-Gappa's) in various places in Mumbai and Delhi are referred at Bhaiya-ji's as well as a the higher class Agrawal's, Gupta's ... are pre-aryans and not the Vedic Aryans who migrated to India in 1500 BC according to the British
The part of the Aryan Invasion that most people are missing, is that many of them came by sea, and landed in the Punjab, what they called Five-Rivers. Read "The Oera Linda" and it will start to make more sense.
Where it's mentioned he is lighter skinned
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