I've never used the noise cancelling ones, but i have some retevis rt22 radios I used to use for suit and tie gigs. The range was a bit reduced but that wasn't an issue. They are so small, smaller than an old nokia cell phone, they fit great under a fitted suit jacket without being obvious or making a huge bulge in my suit. Definitely not made for hard duty use, but for that specific use case (suit and tie, low key in an event venue) they were perfect.
Tommy, I used a straight wired acoustic tube earpiece with a straight wired covert microphone for 5 years with great results on my Motorola XTS2500. So to makes this setup work the best I had a 1 inch slit placed in my uniform shirt right at the place where my radio set by my uniform shop and I passed the mic and earpiece through and up to my collar. I modified this setup by putting the wrist mic under my uniform shirt and clipped on my collar. I placed the earpiece clip on my badge support strap, and ran the acoustic tube up through my collar. Then I used a molded earpiece backwards on the opposite ear so I could still hear the radio, but also still be able to hear out of both ears. If you use the Motorola mic and earpiece they are still plenty loud enough to hear even with it not being in your ear canal. And because the mic is meant to be used from the wrist it is meant to be talked down at so it works well. I worked in traffic so road and vehicle noise were a constant, and rarely did dispatch have an issue with wind or noise.
I’ve found out that with my Motorola noise canceling mic, that if I wear it over my shoulder and use my hand to cup the mic, it works pretty good due to my hand covering around the mic to block noise and it keeps it more direct into the mic. Just some advice from experience
Thanks for the awesome field test. We use Retevis at our church cuz I inherited them from a previous team lead. Can’t hear a blessed thing during worship service.
Some of these overseas companies are really leaning hard into the GMRS/FRS/business markets. I've got a few models of RETEVIS radios and have really liked them. Some of the stuff out there is almost as thin and small as a smart phone and would be great for many low profile uses. That being said I still have a few Motorola Handhelds and my CJ5 currently sports a M1225 UHF radio.
So our organization bought some of the Revetis RB85's (different noise cancellation walkies) but they were under the impression they would still do noise cancellation with any headset / mic. Sounds like that isn't that case, right? From our testing it doesn't sound like they are all that much better than the old Baofengs we used to use, which didn't have noise cancellation, which makes sense if the mic ALSO needs noise cancellation if you don't intend on talking right into the walkie.
Great video. I have no reason to use NC mics as a ham, or for outdoor, but after so many different radios I still stick to Motorola GP300 handheld and Yaesu mobile. That sturdiness and design of old gp and ht is outstanding as well as audio quality. I have used a few Chinese Baofeng and Retevis, they are toys that can not withstand even moderate use or just quit on you for no obvious reason.
it gets rid of the noise cancelling microphone, so your voice going into the back of the mic doesn't register and cancel out your voice going into the front
To put this in perspective… that’s with the base model mic and built in software NC. The newer mics such as the XP, XE 500, and the XVP series all have multiple mics and built in noise cancellation. Motorola does some amazing stuff.
Honestly it really depends on the quality of the radio. Motorola digital radios have much better noise cancellation features and adjustable settings then that old analog HT1000. That being said, it’s impressive that it held its own as well as it did. I can’t condone covering up the back microphone of the remote speaker mic as it defeats the entire purpose of the noise cancellation feature, which is found in the more expensive models, and if your department or agency has spent that extra money then there’s a reason, and in my agency it’s something you can be written up for as “inhibiting the proper operation of departmental equipment”. I’m not even going to acknowledge the Retivis as it’s not even in the same ballpark as the Motorola.
Hey question can you try reviewing the Sepura Shoulder Mic it's what most europe police departments use interested to see if there is a difference between the motorola and sepura.
Hello, I need the name of the Motorola radio. Where can I order and what is the price? I would like to have the radio you review Motorola. please tell me
Way back when, a few years ago, you put a video out that was similar and advocated for cover the Noise Canceling feature with tape....I've been doing it ever since 👌
@@freefieldtraining Hey, can you comment on what type of radio comms the Brazilian police ops squad is using (type of radio, long-range antenna, ear mic...) in the opening scenes of the movie "Triple Frontier" when theyre taking down that drug cell on the 2nd story raid of that building. Theyve got the radios Molle strapped to the back of their vests. Thanks.
Odie Junior and Tommy - I have a Motorola APX8000 with a noise-canceling public safety mic. I also cover the noise-canceling mic on the back with electrical tape and it works noticeably better. I've pointed this hack out to Motorola vendors and radio techs who also agree that this is a good workaround for these noise-canceling PSMs for those of us who use it as Tommy demonstrated.
Try adjusting the noise cancellation settings in the radio itself. Sometimes the noise cancellation settings of the radio conflict with that of the remote speaker mic and adjustments are needed. 🫤
FRS with a removable antenna? I'm so confused. And a 800-900mhz public safety frequency is better for urban environment through walls ect. Power frequency and guts ofvthe radios are what make the difference, not the mic. Plug that Motorola mic into the ChiNa radio and hear the difference. If you can't do pinouts then you probably shouldn't be telling people about radios
I've never used the noise cancelling ones, but i have some retevis rt22 radios I used to use for suit and tie gigs. The range was a bit reduced but that wasn't an issue. They are so small, smaller than an old nokia cell phone, they fit great under a fitted suit jacket without being obvious or making a huge bulge in my suit. Definitely not made for hard duty use, but for that specific use case (suit and tie, low key in an event venue) they were perfect.
I've been impressed with noise cancelling microphones from Motorola, they really do a good job.
Tommy, I used a straight wired acoustic tube earpiece with a straight wired covert microphone for 5 years with great results on my Motorola XTS2500. So to makes this setup work the best I had a 1 inch slit placed in my uniform shirt right at the place where my radio set by my uniform shop and I passed the mic and earpiece through and up to my collar. I modified this setup by putting the wrist mic under my uniform shirt and clipped on my collar. I placed the earpiece clip on my badge support strap, and ran the acoustic tube up through my collar. Then I used a molded earpiece backwards on the opposite ear so I could still hear the radio, but also still be able to hear out of both ears. If you use the Motorola mic and earpiece they are still plenty loud enough to hear even with it not being in your ear canal. And because the mic is meant to be used from the wrist it is meant to be talked down at so it works well. I worked in traffic so road and vehicle noise were a constant, and rarely did dispatch have an issue with wind or noise.
I’ve found out that with my Motorola noise canceling mic, that if I wear it over my shoulder and use my hand to cup the mic, it works pretty good due to my hand covering around the mic to block noise and it keeps it more direct into the mic. Just some advice from experience
Thanks for the awesome content as usual! I turn 21 in June and I'm going to try and join the state police.
Good luck! 😊
Thanks for the awesome field test. We use Retevis at our church cuz I inherited them from a previous team lead. Can’t hear a blessed thing during worship service.
Why does your Motorola not have the key up tone
There’s reason I’ve been subscribed since 5k subs your amazing and extremely helpful
Keep up the good work and be safe
FYI, the link for ASP batons, handcuffs, zip cuffs, and accessories doesn't work...
Dude acts like the mic has a significant impact on TX vs the actual radio and frequency.
Some of these overseas companies are really leaning hard into the GMRS/FRS/business markets. I've got a few models of RETEVIS radios and have really liked them. Some of the stuff out there is almost as thin and small as a smart phone and would be great for many low profile uses.
That being said I still have a few Motorola Handhelds and my CJ5 currently sports a M1225 UHF radio.
So our organization bought some of the Revetis RB85's (different noise cancellation walkies) but they were under the impression they would still do noise cancellation with any headset / mic. Sounds like that isn't that case, right? From our testing it doesn't sound like they are all that much better than the old Baofengs we used to use, which didn't have noise cancellation, which makes sense if the mic ALSO needs noise cancellation if you don't intend on talking right into the walkie.
Great video. I have no reason to use NC mics as a ham, or for outdoor, but after so many different radios I still stick to Motorola GP300 handheld and Yaesu mobile. That sturdiness and design of old gp and ht is outstanding as well as audio quality. I have used a few Chinese Baofeng and Retevis, they are toys that can not withstand even moderate use or just quit on you for no obvious reason.
Can you explain what the tape on the back does?
it gets rid of the noise cancelling microphone, so your voice going into the back of the mic doesn't register and cancel out your voice going into the front
To put this in perspective… that’s with the base model mic and built in software NC. The newer mics such as the XP, XE 500, and the XVP series all have multiple mics and built in noise cancellation. Motorola does some amazing stuff.
Honestly it really depends on the quality of the radio. Motorola digital radios have much better noise cancellation features and adjustable settings then that old analog HT1000. That being said, it’s impressive that it held its own as well as it did. I can’t condone covering up the back microphone of the remote speaker mic as it defeats the entire purpose of the noise cancellation feature, which is found in the more expensive models, and if your department or agency has spent that extra money then there’s a reason, and in my agency it’s something you can be written up for as “inhibiting the proper operation of departmental equipment”.
I’m not even going to acknowledge the Retivis as it’s not even in the same ballpark as the Motorola.
How the hell did you get your department to let you use their apx7000 for a yt vid
this supports my decision for going with motorola radios and the RSM, what model do you have? we been using the RSM PMMN4025A
Hey question can you try reviewing the Sepura Shoulder Mic it's what most europe police departments use interested to see if there is a difference between the motorola and sepura.
Hello, I need the name of the Motorola radio. Where can I order and what is the price? I would like to have the radio you review Motorola. please tell me
Way back when, a few years ago, you put a video out that was similar and advocated for cover the Noise Canceling feature with tape....I've been doing it ever since 👌
I love your vids bro!! You are the best.
(I love radios heh)
Hey, be careful running the gas engine indoors for risk of CO poisoning! Otherwise, fascinating video.
The garage overhead door was open.
@@freefieldtraining I noticed lol, just wanted to make sure you were staying safe! Have a good one and thanks for your service!
@@freefieldtraining I lost a friend from CO poisoning and I would feel like I failed if I didn’t say something and something happened to you!
@@freefieldtraining Hey, can you comment on what type of radio comms the Brazilian police ops squad is using (type of radio, long-range antenna, ear mic...) in the opening scenes of the movie "Triple Frontier" when theyre taking down that drug cell on the 2nd story raid of that building. Theyve got the radios Molle strapped to the back of their vests. Thanks.
The retevis one is not noise canceling it is voice canceling 😂
Just got on at a department. Really nervous 😬 . Any advice. Oh and your videos are legit man!!!
Keep your mouth shut and your eyes open at work for at least a year.
@@freefieldtraining noted.
Be safe man. Congrats. Take good notes on all calls. Stay in shape. Be respectful even when having to go hand on.
does motorola not make the public service mic any more? why did you move away from those if they still do?
At the time I was issued the new radio this was all that was available.
Odie Junior and Tommy - I have a Motorola APX8000 with a noise-canceling public safety mic. I also cover the noise-canceling mic on the back with electrical tape and it works noticeably better. I've pointed this hack out to Motorola vendors and radio techs who also agree that this is a good workaround for these noise-canceling PSMs for those of us who use it as Tommy demonstrated.
Try adjusting the noise cancellation settings in the radio itself. Sometimes the noise cancellation settings of the radio conflict with that of the remote speaker mic and adjustments are needed. 🫤
This feels like more a sales pitch for Motorola because not testing the same way you do for either…
Love your pants Tommy 😅😅😅
I have an Otto speaker mic.
FRS with a removable antenna? I'm so confused. And a 800-900mhz public safety frequency is better for urban environment through walls ect. Power frequency and guts ofvthe radios are what make the difference, not the mic. Plug that Motorola mic into the ChiNa radio and hear the difference. If you can't do pinouts then you probably shouldn't be telling people about radios
Show A Deputy Sheriff walkie-talkie
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Well, it cancelled the noise lol
It sounds like you get what you pay for....🤔
I have FRS plugged in to my motorola HT 1250 so it works better than a off the shelf FRS I also have some VHF travel freqs I have access too
Congratulations, you’re violating federal regulations!
@@eymantia cry about it
𝓅𝓇𝑜𝓂𝑜𝓈𝓂 😎
Fake or real cop
This is just a fun radio of walkie-talkie
A radio a walkie-talkie please walkie-talkie is different
No thank you I'll stick to my xts2500 using just a plain old speaker mic
A radio a walkie-talkie please walkie-talkie is different