For me, the problem with Jade Mountain Acadamy is how little it matters after Book 6. Like, they're barely at the school at all, Tsunami even lampshades it at one point.
Something like this academy, in my opinion, was too early introduced. Firstly, war also ended pretty quickly, and then here is the idea of school where dragons learn to fet along. Secondly, DoD are still too young to have a whole school under control and work there. Again, too early introduced.
Yeah. Early in book six, Moonwatcher hears Kinkajou thinking about how unlucky she was to have been placed in the same cave as a NightWing, even though Moonwatcher had nothing to do with the mistreatment of the RainWings.
IF you add up some of the tribes histories, it was doomed to fail. They should've waited maybe a decade after the war to start the school, so no deep seeded grudges would be found in the dragonets.
Just imagine if tui decided to make arc 2 a decade in the future. We could've seen the older DoD, and other characters in the future. Moon could've been accepted by other moon born nightwings that hatched in the rainforest. Honestly things would've been better.
Or those deep seeded grudges would be passed on from their parents. JMA did what it set out to do; promote understanding and friendship between the tribes. Just look at the Jade Winglet. If it wasn't for JMA, Moon would have continued her life of isolation, afraid of her own powers; Winter would've gone on hating the NightWings and believing that IceWings were superior etc. Progress takes time and effort. If people dismissed everything as a failure at the first hurdle, we'd still be living in caves.
I feel like it was just way, way too soon. It might have worked if they waited a decade or so, but doing it almost immediately after? no wonder it failed. Imagine living in the middle of a war, with your people being slaughtered, put into literal fighting rings like wild animals, and just horribly mistreated and then suddenly you're sent to a school where you have to be in a classroom with people from the very same country that was doing all these atrocities. Of course it would cause conflict, the wounds were still fresh and it was just way too soon to start something like the Jade Mountain Academy.
I'd attend, but the second a blew up a whole library, killed 2 kid, and injured another, I'm gone. Then you see DarkStalker come out of the mountain and its like "Man, dodged a bullet"
it always struck me as a weird direction to take the plot after arc 1, but we got a lot of great characters out of the story arc and a neat legends book.
I’m pretty sure it was more a music ROOM like the art room where students go and just mess around with the stuff there and figure it out on their own. But yeah, the DoD were barely older than some of their students and didn’t know nearly enough about some of the subjects they were teaching.
I wouldn’t say destined to fail, I would say a series of back luck and and unpredictable ancient evil, ( as well as the last dragon you’d expect to pull such a violent revenge plan) I’d liken it more to like a educational summer camp but that’s just me
Most likely due to money due to the teachers wanting to be pay and the fact the DOD didn't have any other job and was not getting as much funding outside of normal stuff for the school
I think another reason is because while the DoD are famous they are not very knowledgeable in teaching so while they did try to recruit teachers they failed cause they couldn’t really get the other teachers views on how the school system should be as well which made them very selective of teachers that agreed with them wholeheartedly over teachers who would love to help these students then of course payment which was probably non-existent prior for the DoD.
"which sound nice and all, but this is wings of fire, not my little pony" if winter ever knew what my little pony was i bet he would binge watch in and the go and tell every one that this school is like my little pony with all the hugging and freindships
I don't know, but I have the feeling that if the jade mountain academy continues to exist, it will be more hybrid than many tribal dragons, and that might not be good.
It made me laugh since I have a very slim knowledge of the Academy, yet I did start a fanfic that takes place many years in future where the Academy had actual senior teachers (the dod work more like Principals and other higher statuses and aren't shown, just by name mentioned in the story). The academy accepts first ever Leafwing student but she freaks out about standing out so much. Won't spoil why or how but she gets an amulet that makes her become a Sky Wing for the time she is at school and she gets actually decent winglet class. Because again this is set many years later and I wrote it as a person who has no clue how the academy works lol
If Moon's vision at the end of Moon Rising is anything to go by; JMA could play a huge role in bringing the tribes of Pyrrhia together. Just because it didn't create world peace in the first few weeks, doesn't mean it failed. One of the lessons the characters learned in the second arc was that there's no shortcut to fixing the world. Real lasting change takes time and hard work. There're going to be failures along the way, but you have to keep trying. "If no one tries to make things better, then nothing will ever get better."
Jade Mountain was more of an "even more messed up russian roulette". You could be hated because of how you acted, what you had done, or what you looked like, and someone could want to kill you for it 😊
Interesting points, but I disagree that JMA was poorly-timed. While wounds were still fresh from the war, real history shows it is just as likely that the grudges and hatred between tribes would get worse and not better with time, especially as war-weariness faded. Meanwhile, the DOD had broad influence and public support, but this would fade the longer they waited. Even the backing of the queens (which seems tenuous as it is) was temporary; what if a queen changed their mind or got challenged by someone less sympathetic? If you look at it this way, immediately post-war was the only good time to found the academy; the DOD weren't sure if conditions would be favorable in the future, and the clock was ticking for the next big war to start. In these circumstances the DOD decided to take a big risk with the limited resources they had, and it looks like JMA pays off in the end. If they waited for the perfect timing, it might’ve never happened at all. (Of course the real reason for the timing is just so the story can happen)
also i was genuinely confused when i read book 14 because it read "Daffodil was tossing bumble bee up and down in the air" because i noticed how small a scavenger is compared to a fully grown dragon so im like wait isent bumble bee supposed to outweigh daffodil?!?!?!
It's still crazy to me that they put a bunch of unwilling child veterans in the same cave and ignored requests to move. Everything that went wrong is on the DOD here
Not me about to comment "Its My Little Pony season 7" Also, maybe don't put the school directly next to the depressed dragon who is literally turning to stone and can't leave
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The academy sounded good on paper, but it never ended up living up to its fullest potential imo
So true, though
Yeah, I thought it was going to be a major setting but the protagonists spend so little time there it feels like yet another dropped subplot.
For me, the problem with Jade Mountain Acadamy is how little it matters after Book 6. Like, they're barely at the school at all, Tsunami even lampshades it at one point.
Something like this academy, in my opinion, was too early introduced.
Firstly, war also ended pretty quickly, and then here is the idea of school where dragons learn to fet along.
Secondly, DoD are still too young to have a whole school under control and work there. Again, too early introduced.
Yeah. Early in book six, Moonwatcher hears Kinkajou thinking about how unlucky she was to have been placed in the same cave as a NightWing, even though Moonwatcher had nothing to do with the mistreatment of the RainWings.
to be fair the whole ancient evil business couldn't really have been predicted (besides by moonwatcher).
IF you add up some of the tribes histories, it was doomed to fail. They should've waited maybe a decade after the war to start the school, so no deep seeded grudges would be found in the dragonets.
Just imagine if tui decided to make arc 2 a decade in the future. We could've seen the older DoD, and other characters in the future. Moon could've been accepted by other moon born nightwings that hatched in the rainforest. Honestly things would've been better.
@@kiorakarma1292 Very true
Or those deep seeded grudges would be passed on from their parents. JMA did what it set out to do; promote understanding and friendship between the tribes. Just look at the Jade Winglet. If it wasn't for JMA, Moon would have continued her life of isolation, afraid of her own powers; Winter would've gone on hating the NightWings and believing that IceWings were superior etc.
Progress takes time and effort. If people dismissed everything as a failure at the first hurdle, we'd still be living in caves.
I feel like it was just way, way too soon.
It might have worked if they waited a decade or so, but doing it almost immediately after? no wonder it failed.
Imagine living in the middle of a war, with your people being slaughtered, put into literal fighting rings like wild animals, and just horribly mistreated and then suddenly you're sent to a school where you have to be in a classroom with people from the very same country that was doing all these atrocities. Of course it would cause conflict, the wounds were still fresh and it was just way too soon to start something like the Jade Mountain Academy.
I'd attend, but the second a blew up a whole library, killed 2 kid, and injured another, I'm gone. Then you see DarkStalker come out of the mountain and its like "Man, dodged a bullet"
their still better teachers than whirlpool.
All teachers are better then Whirlpool
@@Moka_kit_on_break even the one who rejected someone in art class?
@@bl4me_me Yes
@@bl4me_me did they commit pedophila? No I don't think so
A rock would be a better teacher than whirlpool
it always struck me as a weird direction to take the plot after arc 1, but we got a lot of great characters out of the story arc and a neat legends book.
They have a music class but the dod NEVER learnt music, I’m pretty sure Qibli could teach the other students better than the dod 😭
I’m pretty sure it was more a music ROOM like the art room where students go and just mess around with the stuff there and figure it out on their own. But yeah, the DoD were barely older than some of their students and didn’t know nearly enough about some of the subjects they were teaching.
Department of Defensive? What does the army have to do with this
In the beginning that’s the most metal yet true descriptions of jma that I’ve ever heard 😭😭
I wouldn’t say destined to fail, I would say a series of back luck and and unpredictable ancient evil, ( as well as the last dragon you’d expect to pull such a violent revenge plan) I’d liken it more to like a educational summer camp but that’s just me
theirs no way that the different tribes didn't already have plenty of teachers that could be recruited so i don't know why they didn't just do that.
Most likely due to money due to the teachers wanting to be pay and the fact the DOD didn't have any other job and was not getting as much funding outside of normal stuff for the school
I think another reason is because while the DoD are famous they are not very knowledgeable in teaching so while they did try to recruit teachers they failed cause they couldn’t really get the other teachers views on how the school system should be as well which made them very selective of teachers that agreed with them wholeheartedly over teachers who would love to help these students then of course payment which was probably non-existent prior for the DoD.
"which sound nice and all, but this is wings of fire, not my little pony" if winter ever knew what my little pony was i bet he would binge watch in and the go and tell every one that this school is like my little pony with all the hugging and freindships
I don't know, but I have the feeling that if the jade mountain academy continues to exist, it will be more hybrid than many tribal dragons, and that might not be good.
It made me laugh since I have a very slim knowledge of the Academy, yet I did start a fanfic that takes place many years in future where the Academy had actual senior teachers (the dod work more like Principals and other higher statuses and aren't shown, just by name mentioned in the story). The academy accepts first ever Leafwing student but she freaks out about standing out so much. Won't spoil why or how but she gets an amulet that makes her become a Sky Wing for the time she is at school and she gets actually decent winglet class. Because again this is set many years later and I wrote it as a person who has no clue how the academy works lol
If Moon's vision at the end of Moon Rising is anything to go by; JMA could play a huge role in bringing the tribes of Pyrrhia together.
Just because it didn't create world peace in the first few weeks, doesn't mean it failed. One of the lessons the characters learned in the second arc was that there's no shortcut to fixing the world. Real lasting change takes time and hard work. There're going to be failures along the way, but you have to keep trying.
"If no one tries to make things better, then nothing will ever get better."
Jade Mountain was more of an "even more messed up russian roulette". You could be hated because of how you acted, what you had done, or what you looked like, and someone could want to kill you for it 😊
We don't talk about the WoF sizeing no NO!!!
Interesting points, but I disagree that JMA was poorly-timed. While wounds were still fresh from the war, real history shows it is just as likely that the grudges and hatred between tribes would get worse and not better with time, especially as war-weariness faded. Meanwhile, the DOD had broad influence and public support, but this would fade the longer they waited. Even the backing of the queens (which seems tenuous as it is) was temporary; what if a queen changed their mind or got challenged by someone less sympathetic?
If you look at it this way, immediately post-war was the only good time to found the academy; the DOD weren't sure if conditions would be favorable in the future, and the clock was ticking for the next big war to start. In these circumstances the DOD decided to take a big risk with the limited resources they had, and it looks like JMA pays off in the end. If they waited for the perfect timing, it might’ve never happened at all.
(Of course the real reason for the timing is just so the story can happen)
also i was genuinely confused when i read book 14 because it read
"Daffodil was tossing bumble bee up and down in the air"
because i noticed how small a scavenger is compared to a fully grown dragon so im like wait isent bumble bee supposed to outweigh daffodil?!?!?!
GIRL HOW DID YOU GET SO GOOD AT ART ALL OF A SUDDEN-
The biggest problem is Onyx being a 20 year old in school with middleschoolers lol
It's still crazy to me that they put a bunch of unwilling child veterans in the same cave and ignored requests to move. Everything that went wrong is on the DOD here
Not me about to comment "Its My Little Pony season 7"
Also, maybe don't put the school directly next to the depressed dragon who is literally turning to stone and can't leave
I thunk the drawing's Stonemover Sunny's father
Hi 4rcane (Rogan? idk)
It's just someone who voice acted for your production of Runaway. (CCC: Clearsight)
What platform was the private casting thing sent on? I've been very confused the past couple days!
Thanks
Moon (Clearsight)
It's been sent out on discord, still trying to find out how to close the Casting Call with Casting Announcements. Sorry for not replying!
Ok, sure :) IF *IF* I got a role, please resend (itsclearsight) because I haven’t gotten anything yet (also if i got a role, AUTOMATIC CONFIRM)
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Its pretty much Nepotism the Academy
0:20 not one. 2 or 3.
I can see what you mean
"this is wings of fire not my little pony"