Dumbs: Guess what I have here Nicky? Nick: What is it Dumbs? Dumbs: I installed another Lilia mod Nick: Dubs no! She's an animal you can't! Dumb: There's no law against the dream deers, Nicky!!
I think it'd be pretty neat if Nocturne's lore rework turned him into a twin sibling for her, dreams and nightmares! Reworking him not to be evil exactly, but simply the other half of dreams--people naturally have fears, it could be his job to keep them in check, or otherwise force you to face them! I think it'd be neat to help separate him from Fiddlesticks in that way, too.
If they really wanted to keep him evil they could just say that the Order of Shadow (under Kusho) corrupted him or whatever, and now part of what Zed is doing is trying to figure out a way to return him to what he once was. I think that'd be neato.
My favorite of her lines is when she says an actually-panicked "eeeyeeep!" and then corrects herself with the usual cute little "eep." She's Fluttershy as a LoL champ
NO THE GUY WHO WROTE YONE'S DIALOGUE (YICHAO) SAID YONE AND LILLIA'S DYNAMIC WAS MEANT TO BE PLATONIC- LIKE BIG BROTHER-LITTLE SISTER VIBES - I AM DYING ON THIS HILL!!!!!!!
they're called cervitaurs i believe! also i think your design is in every way an improvement. i especially ADORE the detail of her legs being made of wood! what a creative was of demonstrating her origins! If i HAD to think of something to critique or add, i might suggest... an EXTRA pair of legs? just to make her look **even more** fantastical and to break away a little from the Classic Known Creatures. the intention here being to echo a bit of that verrrry slightly unsettled feeling you might have during a very nice dream where you realise, 'ohh... this isnt real.'
i can't wait for pantheon to eventually appear on casual champion review, you HAVE to include his theme, easily the best theme in the entire game (behind lewis the gator)
TL:DR Panth generic, theme not the worst but not the best. Pantheon and his theme are extremely overrated. He's an inexorably generic and boring "Manly man" who, while definitely inspiring, covers no new ground. His theme is a motivational chant, and that is all it is. Compared to the themes of champions such as Fiddlesticks, who's theme is a horror twist in a children's song about how dangerous he is, Jhin, who's theme should need to introduction in how it's a total masterpiece, and Tahm Kench, who's theme uses sound design to truly immerse yourself as if you're speaking to him. There are plenty other themes which are on a similar level of excellence to these, and while pantheon's theme is also excellent, I also think it's a middling excellence compared to the rest of the cast.
I think Lillia gameplay design is very good Damaging enemies and running away like a shy deer is pretty accurate for her and it fits perfectly when she approaches sleeping enemies
@@mariasidor6672 eh, worth to say either way. Either find a joke or i can try to find a conversation with someone ya know? Have a pleasent day my good gent.
As a fellow aroace, i can see Lillia being one but like me, adores platonic relationships! Like she has a hard time Warming up to people, even though she really want to. And when it finally happens, she’ll cherish and love those people but in a wholesome, platonic way😂
Damn, I don't know if this is mentioned already or if this was already in mind when designing your redesign but I absolutely ADORE the idea of making Lilia a chimera as a call back to a Japanese mythological creature called a baku! Given that a baku is a spirit of good luck and drives away nightmares by eating them, as well as originally being portrayed as a chimera, its perfect to have Lilia be inspired by that! (given that Ionia is more inspired by East Asian cultures)
I get where you're coming from Nicky, and I always love the idea of more GRSM characters in LoL, but coding Lillia as Ace on the grounds that she's shy feels a little pigeonhole-y. Not all aspec folk are introverts. 😕 And while it doesn't bother me all the time (nor does it hinder me from taking on the headcanon of Lillia specifically being ace), it occasionally bothers me when it is insinuated that the concept of "wholesome" and the concept of "horny" are necessarily antithetical to each other. It kind of feeds a negative stereotype about sex as "shameful" or "sinful". I get that it came up as a reaction to someone else putting you off, but still, come on, dude. That's a little beneath you to let it get to you, isn't it? If you don't like it so much, why don't you just ignore it?
Agreed on some points! It's something that can be seen quite a bit with, say, the discussions of the open presence of kink as relating to queer communities. It's all frequently tinged with this almost puritan sex-negative attitude that views any overt and unabashed display of sexuality as "gross". The presence of specific sections of sex-averse AroAce people in the community also certainly complicates things, not to mention children who are just as valid in discovering their identities in appropriate spaces. While this is very presumptuous of me to say, from the way Nicholas J. Boi presents himself in his videos, I get the impression he's generally just rather uncomfortable with sexuality in a way that reads as being defensive.
I still think your Soraka redesign is my favorite, but the Lilla redesign is so nice with how understated it is if I'm using that word right, it's simple and it tackles a few microcriticisms in a way I really enjoy
As weird as it sounds, I think the only thing I would criticize is that I don't think it pulls off the shyness as well as it could. I like the idea of Lillia wearing clothes made of leaves to almost feel like she's hiding herself, and in particular the leaves on her back legs feel a Lil out of place.
We are on the same page when talking about Lillia, totally agree with everything you said, I would kill for a lillia-ivern comic, a short story, even a couple more interactions
See, I like the take that she's asexual but the idea of this shy little bean of a character seeing romantic dreams and loving the idea of them while being too nervous to actually talk to people about it makes me very happy, romantic asexual, still shy as all hell, I kind of love that
Honestly the only thing i would like to see added to your redesign is her having more doe bambi eyes like she does in her actual model. I feel like it fits her character so well, her lashes in the in-game model look like flower petals which i just love. Other then that i really love the redesign you did, she is so adorable
Lillia was born from the fruit of a tree. This makes her a sentient fruit. If yone would want to sleep with her, it would be similar to f*cking a melon. Thanks for coming to my ted-talk
Hello, weird romantic with a bagage full of Nice and bad encounters with many people here: sex isn't inherently gross. Nor bad. Nor abhorrent. I mean some aspects of it might be depending on how sensitive you are (You in a general term here, not you specifically dear Nickolas) and also some people are just horrible, but as I've grown to see it, sex is (and should always be) an intimate moment of true connection, of openness with someone you trust and/or love. Also, furries are people, not animals nor zoophiles, they create/enjoy characters with certain bodies, shapes or forms, yet they make it a point to separate it from real animals, at least for all the ones I met. Having a passionate discourse about a character, and wishing to share an intimate moment with them... I don't see the problem ???? Even if the character isn't properly human, they are still a person, with a personnality and motives that make then endearing to watch. Fantasies are a way to alleviate the real, to escape from it. Or a way to experience something you couldn't or shouldn't do in real life. I mean, personnaly, my first ever fictional crush was the Dragon from Shrek. Does that mean I'm a weirdo? Maybe. Do the readers of wattpad and whatnot terrify me with their devouring passion for smut so horrible that I think it's the only form of art that should keep a trigger warning ? Yes. Does that make me or them horrible, bigots, less of human beings ? Nope. Let's indulge in fantasy. Let's accept one another as humans. Let's grow as people by understanding that attraction (and lack there of) is such a complex philosophical and psychological phenomenon that it's quite impossible to quantify or control it, as in the end of the day, we are animals with opposable thumbs and the unhinged power of imagination. I don't even like Lilia. I just don't like it when sex and attraction are painted as gross. Please, love wha you love, enjoy what you enjoy, how weird and deranged it might be. It's ok. When aren't machines. However, I would advise seeking professional help of you fantasize about IRL children or animal, or even some stuff associated with a past survivor trauma. Healing your wounds and avoiding harmful behaviors, for yourself and others around you. Thank you for reading me, I'll now resume the video, of this creator of which the works helped me tremendously to grow as a person and an artist, as well as providing me with many great laughs that made my darkest hours brighter. Thanks Nicky Boi.❤
i understand 100% that you get repulsed at her on a relationship but argumenting about the "business" is a failed one imo, people dont always need to do "business" for a relationship to be good
Here’s something that I think your redesign loses that tbskyen mentions in his short on spirit blossom lillia. Much of lillia’s character is about that pull towards humanity that is almost lost to her, it is alien and she is curious about it, but it also scares her. Think the original little mermaid story (the book). Removing lillia’s humanness removes some of that tension and makes it feel like she is just more curious in the same way that lulu is curious about tasting purple. The two things are fundamentally different and I really enjoy lillia for that tension about being scared of but also curious about humans. It is a core part of her shyness. I think trying to make her more dreamlike is not a bad idea, but you need to do so in such a way that does not diminish something good about her character as it is as I adore her character design as is.
Visual clarity is very important in league because of the zoomed out top down camera. That being said there’s plenty of ways to impart dreamlike qualities on a character without cluttering design too much. Asymmetry is always good, because most life is symmetrical. An asymmetrical color plate could work great at communicating asymmetry from a distance without making her fall into the uncanny valley. Playing with the asymmetry of her antlers could also be nice. Maybe she has one horn glow with blue and pink swirls while the other is black. Maybe you could have a large embroidered antler on one side of her head while the other is either a stub or not there at all. I do actually like what you did with the wooden legs and antlers, maybe we could involve more green in those areas so it more easily invokes the image of a tree. You could even bring back the bud and have it grow off of one of her antlers, again evoking asymmetry, but I understand visual clutter is an issue. I also don’t fully understand her lore, but from my relatively uninformed perspective, it seems a more humanlike form is more appropriate. I think if she’s a creature born of the dreams of humans, she’s going to look like one, regardless of what the vastayan precursor race looked like. I always enjoy that egyptian gods in media are depicted as much more animalistic than their ancient sources, which are basically just people with animals heads. It gives the impression that we, in our ego, morphed their appearance to more closely resemble our own, and there’s something so human about that.
16:18 I absolutely adore this redesign, the fluffy humanoid animal hybrid combo is so delightful. If I am to give some sort of criticism, maybe line the top of her back with the glowy flowers? It looks a little strange with them being in a clump near the tail and I feel like it lining them up would help to give more mystical blue to her design. Granted, I'm no professional character designer either(not even close lol) so take this with a grain of salt
I love your Lillia redesign because you added traits that I personally love in character designs (branch antlers, glowing flowers and leaves all around). I genuinely wish we had gotten your design instead of the current Lillia (and don't get me wrong, I love her a lot! But that's NOT a monster champion 💀 also it would probably drive some of her simps away, all things considered)
Lillia definitely inside that "love everything about them besides of gameplay" for me. Much like Kindred though, that gameplay equals pretty much the fact that her main role is considered Jungle. But now Nicholas shows me another way just like with Kindred ...
Yeah, I gave a side eye to that section, too. The Yone ship is weird but there could be a relationship that's romantic but not sexual. Isn't Yone undead or something?
He has every right to say that. He didn't say "this ship should be eradicated because of my headcanon", he said "I don't like it because of my headcanon". That's called having preferences and opinions.
@@Hannahmiru It is still an opinion, and he has every right to use that word or any other words to express his dislike. And calling some "disgusting" is still not the equivalent of "I want this thing eradicated from existence".
@@kenyizsu the issue isnt having an opinion cause that's valid, completely shitting on a ship people make PURELY CAUSE OF YOUR HEADCANON, isn't valid tho, what he said was out of bias of his own thoughts, not a fact, it's very rude.
Honestly, I can see Yone's and Lillia's relationship being romantic, AT MOST, with no need for physical intimacy (i hope not at least). I can see both of them being on the ace spectrum, Lillia for the reasons mention by Nicky, and Yone because, well, dude has a demon stuck to his face, he was killed by his brother, and he's like not entirely alive? (I havent fully read into his lore so idk). I think romance and intimacy are one of his smallest priorities in the current lore LMAO
Where did it say the vastayashai'rei don't wear clothes? They weren't just animals, they can shapeshift into one yes but they were fully sentient beings just like minotaurs or orcs, they were enlightened mortals (presumably humans) who took the power of the spirit realm into themselves so they could defend Ionia from the sky titans. From Yi's short story, he even mistook them as humans at first.
I like the idea that the trees idea of a protector was a passive and nurturing animal like a deer. They heal nature just by living there, don’t (intentionally) hurt anything even though they’re born with weapons on their head, and add so much beauty and serenity that of course would inspire a magical tree to birth. The human aspects almost feel like Lilia’s input on what SHE wants to look like. She saw humans and wanted to meet them, inspire them, and BE inspired by them. That being said, I very much prefer her being more faye and whimsical. Most of the cute features you can point out on her aren’t really her human traits. Her huge eyelashes, her magical leafy hair, the way she patters around, her droopy dear ears, etc etc. She’s better off maximizing her creature features
To make lilia more dream or spiritual, I’d like her head and human torso to be more floral mixed with oceanic sea slug. Her head would just be a flower while her limbs would merge into tree roots.
Hey for what its worth i digged the extra animal bits of the first design. Dont get me wrong the revision is better but similar to elden rings concept of the crucible, life energy depicted as a mix of all things is very cool and im always happy to see it 🤙
Nicki has strong dad vibes when it comes to Lillia: "she is so wholesome and needs to be protected and I wont let my babygirl date with this HALF DEMON HALF STRIPPER and wont let anyone touch her with their dirty hands" So cute
Lillia Top is some of the most fun i have had in league because when you get matched against a less mobile champ it is just unfair. Skirmish Lillia as i like to call it with phase rush just makes it so that you cannot be hit
Kindred redesign so that you can feel a little bit more peaceful? I'm starting to realize that maybe the best designs just comes from people that don't care about sex at all.
Now that I think about it, the fact Nicky is incapable of bringing up Dumbs (a person I would assume he considers a friend, based on multiple videos with him), without mentioning the deer thing, seems more disgusting to me, to be honest.
Lilia is a lot like Briar to me, in one respect; I write a lot of shipping stuff but I just couldn't ship either of them with anybody. They just give off such strong aroace energy. Really strong 'this character is just curious and friendly and wants to make friends' vibes. It's a little more morbid with Briar because she's likely to chomp her friends but really all she wants is friends.
I know you mentioned this but my only real concern with your redesign (all of your redesigns really) is that I don’t think they’re radical enough, they’re way too conservative in relation to the original design. Still all much better than the originals tho.
I OTP Lillia, but seeing her laning looks cool. She was kind of gutted from top lane season 14. Jungling is so good for her tho. She wants to scale, and punish overextension, and i think she is the best at that over the course of a game than any other jungler.
Well hate to break it to ya Nicky but relationships like that have been said to be canon in runeterra.... How do you think vastaya's were made... BUT I doubt there is a relationship there cause... It's yone... Would be hilarious though considering what's going on with ahri and yasuo. But pretty sure it's just she trusts yone a lot which means a lot for someone like her, and he hunts demons, nocturne is (supposedly) hunting her and is a possible demon, she wants to stop him from spreading nightmares, you see were the pairing makes sense.
As an Ace man, I've never related to another UA-camr more. "Torso duct taped to a deer" was my exact response when she was released. You've hit every thought I've ever had with character designs in league. You're my favorite Nicky. You should redesign Nocturne as Lillia's antithesis. I'd kill to see how monstrous you could make Nocturne.
When you mean the “internet” you mean a particular streamer that rhymes with crumbs
Thumbs?
Plumbs
Who uploads like once a year
@@eriktheos6022more like … shit
Hums?
Dumbs: Guess what I have here Nicky?
Nick: What is it Dumbs?
Dumbs: I installed another Lilia mod
Nick: Dubs no! She's an animal you can't!
Dumb: There's no law against the dream deers, Nicky!!
The internet wears glasses...
And is bald-
and it has a car
the internet is Antony Fantano ?
And uploads like once a year
-Currently
Danny Devito?!
I would like to let people know that Lilia has two ribcages. You are now cursed with knowledge.
But what if its one, long, continous ribcage
@@St0nek oh my Gosh.
piratesoftware reference?
So does Hecarim, and if you think he doesn't have his fans, you are *grave*ly mistaken.
I like to believe she's made of pure magic
Lillia is such a silly lil guy I love her
NickyBoi when Dumbs:
Lillia is the shy “oh no people” to Aurora’s introvert “ew…people”
I think it'd be pretty neat if Nocturne's lore rework turned him into a twin sibling for her, dreams and nightmares! Reworking him not to be evil exactly, but simply the other half of dreams--people naturally have fears, it could be his job to keep them in check, or otherwise force you to face them!
I think it'd be neat to help separate him from Fiddlesticks in that way, too.
thats genuinely a great idea what the fuck.
thats a really cool idea!
how would that work in with the nocturne in mage seekers?
Some writer at lol is stealing this right now 100%
If they really wanted to keep him evil they could just say that the Order of Shadow (under Kusho) corrupted him or whatever, and now part of what Zed is doing is trying to figure out a way to return him to what he once was. I think that'd be neato.
My favorite of her lines is when she says an actually-panicked "eeeyeeep!" and then corrects herself with the usual cute little "eep."
She's Fluttershy as a LoL champ
Agreed! XD
Fun fact in some species of deers females do have antlers
Can confirm, female reindeer and caribou have antlers.
ANOTHER fun fact, for some reindeers in specific, all of them have antlers, the difference is when they need to shave them off!
NO THE GUY WHO WROTE YONE'S DIALOGUE (YICHAO) SAID YONE AND LILLIA'S DYNAMIC WAS MEANT TO BE PLATONIC- LIKE BIG BROTHER-LITTLE SISTER VIBES - I AM DYING ON THIS HILL!!!!!!!
I didn't know about that but that's also what I thought of too, who came up with romantic dynamic anyway?
@@poonpoon1604those who can't distinguish between headcanon and canon ig:/
@poonpoon1604 the shippers of the internet that have really poor taste of relationships in general
@@poonpoon1604 people see a character interact once and will ship it thats just how things be.
@@LozerLudo for a hoyo games player like me.. I've seen worst..
they're called cervitaurs i believe!
also i think your design is in every way an improvement. i especially ADORE the detail of her legs being made of wood! what a creative was of demonstrating her origins!
If i HAD to think of something to critique or add, i might suggest... an EXTRA pair of legs? just to make her look **even more** fantastical and to break away a little from the Classic Known Creatures. the intention here being to echo a bit of that verrrry slightly unsettled feeling you might have during a very nice dream where you realise, 'ohh... this isnt real.'
i can't wait for pantheon to eventually appear on casual champion review, you HAVE to include his theme, easily the best theme in the entire game (behind lewis the gator)
TL:DR Panth generic, theme not the worst but not the best.
Pantheon and his theme are extremely overrated. He's an inexorably generic and boring "Manly man" who, while definitely inspiring, covers no new ground. His theme is a motivational chant, and that is all it is. Compared to the themes of champions such as Fiddlesticks, who's theme is a horror twist in a children's song about how dangerous he is, Jhin, who's theme should need to introduction in how it's a total masterpiece, and Tahm Kench, who's theme uses sound design to truly immerse yourself as if you're speaking to him. There are plenty other themes which are on a similar level of excellence to these, and while pantheon's theme is also excellent, I also think it's a middling excellence compared to the rest of the cast.
@@Natoursofcourse🤓
@@Natoursofcourse🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
@@Natoursofcourseit’s one of the most hype themes tho so I understand why people prefer it, it’s less subtle and all in your face
Tbh he should ask Rossboomsocks about reusing his "version" of pantheon theme.
Imagining saying that Aurora doesn't incorporate bunny elements into her gameplay when her signature ability literally has her HOP INTO A HOLE.
Dumbs looking at his wanted poster saying "wonder who would taint the deer's image"
I think Lillia gameplay design is very good
Damaging enemies and running away like a shy deer is pretty accurate for her and it fits perfectly when she approaches sleeping enemies
In the internet we can't have wholesome things Nicky, it's the law that I hate with fiery passion
Ya say that, like wholesome and other categories can't coexist in a piece of media.
@@sz_b_zstechnix7523 it's a joke comment???
@@mariasidor6672 eh, worth to say either way. Either find a joke or i can try to find a conversation with someone ya know?
Have a pleasent day my good gent.
Haha Nicky I don’t think you noticed but you skipped Lewis. Lillia is cool and all but Lewis was meant to be before
Who is this Lewis, and why does he keeping coming up?
@@tehk16the gator
@@tehk16it’s a meme and he doesn’t actually
Aka dumbs, and the multitude of arts with the tag horseco-
As a fellow aroace, i can see Lillia being one but like me, adores platonic relationships! Like she has a hard time Warming up to people, even though she really want to. And when it finally happens, she’ll cherish and love those people but in a wholesome, platonic way😂
Damn, I don't know if this is mentioned already or if this was already in mind when designing your redesign but I absolutely ADORE the idea of making Lilia a chimera as a call back to a Japanese mythological creature called a baku! Given that a baku is a spirit of good luck and drives away nightmares by eating them, as well as originally being portrayed as a chimera, its perfect to have Lilia be inspired by that! (given that Ionia is more inspired by East Asian cultures)
I get where you're coming from Nicky, and I always love the idea of more GRSM characters in LoL, but coding Lillia as Ace on the grounds that she's shy feels a little pigeonhole-y. Not all aspec folk are introverts. 😕 And while it doesn't bother me all the time (nor does it hinder me from taking on the headcanon of Lillia specifically being ace), it occasionally bothers me when it is insinuated that the concept of "wholesome" and the concept of "horny" are necessarily antithetical to each other. It kind of feeds a negative stereotype about sex as "shameful" or "sinful". I get that it came up as a reaction to someone else putting you off, but still, come on, dude. That's a little beneath you to let it get to you, isn't it? If you don't like it so much, why don't you just ignore it?
Agreed on some points!
It's something that can be seen quite a bit with, say, the discussions of the open presence of kink as relating to queer communities. It's all frequently tinged with this almost puritan sex-negative attitude that views any overt and unabashed display of sexuality as "gross". The presence of specific sections of sex-averse AroAce people in the community also certainly complicates things, not to mention children who are just as valid in discovering their identities in appropriate spaces.
While this is very presumptuous of me to say, from the way Nicholas J. Boi presents himself in his videos, I get the impression he's generally just rather uncomfortable with sexuality in a way that reads as being defensive.
I still think your Soraka redesign is my favorite, but the Lilla redesign is so nice with how understated it is if I'm using that word right, it's simple and it tackles a few microcriticisms in a way I really enjoy
As weird as it sounds, I think the only thing I would criticize is that I don't think it pulls off the shyness as well as it could. I like the idea of Lillia wearing clothes made of leaves to almost feel like she's hiding herself, and in particular the leaves on her back legs feel a Lil out of place.
We are on the same page when talking about Lillia, totally agree with everything you said, I would kill for a lillia-ivern comic, a short story, even a couple more interactions
I’m so happy I saw my fan art in the beginning 😭, lol love wholesome lillia
See, I like the take that she's asexual but the idea of this shy little bean of a character seeing romantic dreams and loving the idea of them while being too nervous to actually talk to people about it makes me very happy, romantic asexual, still shy as all hell, I kind of love that
Honestly the only thing i would like to see added to your redesign is her having more doe bambi eyes like she does in her actual model. I feel like it fits her character so well, her lashes in the in-game model look like flower petals which i just love. Other then that i really love the redesign you did, she is so adorable
Lillia was born from the fruit of a tree. This makes her a sentient fruit.
If yone would want to sleep with her, it would be similar to f*cking a melon.
Thanks for coming to my ted-talk
Damn that’s creezy
I used to main Lillia top and mid. One of my favorite kits. I also found that no one really complains about having deer in a lane
Nicholas J. Boy you owe us an EEP!
Hello, weird romantic with a bagage full of Nice and bad encounters with many people here: sex isn't inherently gross. Nor bad. Nor abhorrent.
I mean some aspects of it might be depending on how sensitive you are (You in a general term here, not you specifically dear Nickolas) and also some people are just horrible, but as I've grown to see it, sex is (and should always be) an intimate moment of true connection, of openness with someone you trust and/or love.
Also, furries are people, not animals nor zoophiles, they create/enjoy characters with certain bodies, shapes or forms, yet they make it a point to separate it from real animals, at least for all the ones I met.
Having a passionate discourse about a character, and wishing to share an intimate moment with them... I don't see the problem ????
Even if the character isn't properly human, they are still a person, with a personnality and motives that make then endearing to watch.
Fantasies are a way to alleviate the real, to escape from it. Or a way to experience something you couldn't or shouldn't do in real life.
I mean, personnaly, my first ever fictional crush was the Dragon from Shrek.
Does that mean I'm a weirdo? Maybe.
Do the readers of wattpad and whatnot terrify me with their devouring passion for smut so horrible that I think it's the only form of art that should keep a trigger warning ?
Yes.
Does that make me or them horrible, bigots, less of human beings ?
Nope.
Let's indulge in fantasy. Let's accept one another as humans. Let's grow as people by understanding that attraction (and lack there of) is such a complex philosophical and psychological phenomenon that it's quite impossible to quantify or control it, as in the end of the day, we are animals with opposable thumbs and the unhinged power of imagination.
I don't even like Lilia. I just don't like it when sex and attraction are painted as gross.
Please, love wha you love, enjoy what you enjoy, how weird and deranged it might be. It's ok. When aren't machines.
However, I would advise seeking professional help of you fantasize about IRL children or animal, or even some stuff associated with a past survivor trauma. Healing your wounds and avoiding harmful behaviors, for yourself and others around you.
Thank you for reading me, I'll now resume the video, of this creator of which the works helped me tremendously to grow as a person and an artist, as well as providing me with many great laughs that made my darkest hours brighter.
Thanks Nicky Boi.❤
Maybe im just jaded, but that literally everything and everyone now. It'd be more weird if it didn't happen at this point.
Yea I don’t really understand being particularly irked about Lillia being done like that when its literally every league champ as well.
i understand 100% that you get repulsed at her on a relationship but argumenting about the "business" is a failed one imo, people dont always need to do "business" for a relationship to be good
Holy shit that concept aet for Lillian is so freaking cool, wouldve been awesome
i mean riot made lillia ask us to get naked... this is honestly riot's fault if anyone is at fault.
Here’s something that I think your redesign loses that tbskyen mentions in his short on spirit blossom lillia.
Much of lillia’s character is about that pull towards humanity that is almost lost to her, it is alien and she is curious about it, but it also scares her. Think the original little mermaid story (the book).
Removing lillia’s humanness removes some of that tension and makes it feel like she is just more curious in the same way that lulu is curious about tasting purple. The two things are fundamentally different and I really enjoy lillia for that tension about being scared of but also curious about humans. It is a core part of her shyness.
I think trying to make her more dreamlike is not a bad idea, but you need to do so in such a way that does not diminish something good about her character as it is as I adore her character design as is.
As we are on a topic of deer:
What do you think about SMOL DEER skin idea for Smolder ( as addition to christmass themed skinline)? :3
Reindeer smolder is definitely on its way
@@luckypeanut9943 those flame thingies would do nice as horns for a deer :3
Bro is cooking, much like smolders enemies
Visual clarity is very important in league because of the zoomed out top down camera. That being said there’s plenty of ways to impart dreamlike qualities on a character without cluttering design too much. Asymmetry is always good, because most life is symmetrical. An asymmetrical color plate could work great at communicating asymmetry from a distance without making her fall into the uncanny valley. Playing with the asymmetry of her antlers could also be nice. Maybe she has one horn glow with blue and pink swirls while the other is black. Maybe you could have a large embroidered antler on one side of her head while the other is either a stub or not there at all.
I do actually like what you did with the wooden legs and antlers, maybe we could involve more green in those areas so it more easily invokes the image of a tree. You could even bring back the bud and have it grow off of one of her antlers, again evoking asymmetry, but I understand visual clutter is an issue.
I also don’t fully understand her lore, but from my relatively uninformed perspective, it seems a more humanlike form is more appropriate. I think if she’s a creature born of the dreams of humans, she’s going to look like one, regardless of what the vastayan precursor race looked like. I always enjoy that egyptian gods in media are depicted as much more animalistic than their ancient sources, which are basically just people with animals heads. It gives the impression that we, in our ego, morphed their appearance to more closely resemble our own, and there’s something so human about that.
"You can't do the business with-" ok first off, through God anything is possible, so remember that, and
16:18 I absolutely adore this redesign, the fluffy humanoid animal hybrid combo is so delightful.
If I am to give some sort of criticism, maybe line the top of her back with the glowy flowers? It looks a little strange with them being in a clump near the tail and I feel like it lining them up would help to give more mystical blue to her design.
Granted, I'm no professional character designer either(not even close lol) so take this with a grain of salt
That cut from 13:21 where Aurora was alive and then just laying there dead the next cut killed me HAHAHAHA
After having to suffer so many K champs, Nicky was granted the joy of finally playing Lillia, run deer run!!!!
I love your Lillia redesign because you added traits that I personally love in character designs (branch antlers, glowing flowers and leaves all around). I genuinely wish we had gotten your design instead of the current Lillia (and don't get me wrong, I love her a lot! But that's NOT a monster champion 💀 also it would probably drive some of her simps away, all things considered)
Lillia definitely inside that "love everything about them besides of gameplay" for me. Much like Kindred though, that gameplay equals pretty much the fact that her main role is considered Jungle. But now Nicholas shows me another way just like with Kindred ...
Super dope we get to see the buds and locations thanks to legends of runeterra!
Funny we got a yone teaser card as well
You can't blame a certain Finn for his interest in the deerussy, it's the Yone way
Lilia is an animal AND a child character in my eyes. You can presume what i think about people who lewd her
"i hate this ship/find it gross even if cannon because my headcannon is this" ...aight nicky.
Yeah, I gave a side eye to that section, too. The Yone ship is weird but there could be a relationship that's romantic but not sexual. Isn't Yone undead or something?
He has every right to say that. He didn't say "this ship should be eradicated because of my headcanon", he said "I don't like it because of my headcanon". That's called having preferences and opinions.
@@kenyizsu he literally called it disgusting, that's different from saying I don't like it
@@Hannahmiru It is still an opinion, and he has every right to use that word or any other words to express his dislike. And calling some "disgusting" is still not the equivalent of "I want this thing eradicated from existence".
@@kenyizsu the issue isnt having an opinion cause that's valid, completely shitting on a ship people make PURELY CAUSE OF YOUR HEADCANON, isn't valid tho, what he said was out of bias of his own thoughts, not a fact, it's very rude.
I find it a bit funny the idea that people shouldn't be sexualising Lillia because she is a deer from the waist down when mermaids exist
Honestly, I can see Yone's and Lillia's relationship being romantic, AT MOST, with no need for physical intimacy (i hope not at least). I can see both of them being on the ace spectrum, Lillia for the reasons mention by Nicky, and Yone because, well, dude has a demon stuck to his face, he was killed by his brother, and he's like not entirely alive? (I havent fully read into his lore so idk). I think romance and intimacy are one of his smallest priorities in the current lore LMAO
Reindeer /Caribou females have antlers.
I'm gonna fucking... you know maybe he's got a point...
im so glad you also view lilia as aroace. ive always seen her that way as a demi-aroace.
Where did it say the vastayashai'rei don't wear clothes? They weren't just animals, they can shapeshift into one yes but they were fully sentient beings just like minotaurs or orcs, they were enlightened mortals (presumably humans) who took the power of the spirit realm into themselves so they could defend Ionia from the sky titans.
From Yi's short story, he even mistook them as humans at first.
I only just realized...they are basically just the mink tribe.
Omg that redesign is so cute and pretty
I adore the Lilia resign so much
I'll just admitt it. Im part of the problem
I love you bud but crying about a character being lewded on the internet is like asking why League players why they hate their life lol
I like the idea that the trees idea of a protector was a passive and nurturing animal like a deer. They heal nature just by living there, don’t (intentionally) hurt anything even though they’re born with weapons on their head, and add so much beauty and serenity that of course would inspire a magical tree to birth.
The human aspects almost feel like Lilia’s input on what SHE wants to look like. She saw humans and wanted to meet them, inspire them, and BE inspired by them. That being said, I very much prefer her being more faye and whimsical. Most of the cute features you can point out on her aren’t really her human traits. Her huge eyelashes, her magical leafy hair, the way she patters around, her droopy dear ears, etc etc. She’s better off maximizing her creature features
To make lilia more dream or spiritual, I’d like her head and human torso to be more floral mixed with oceanic sea slug. Her head would just be a flower while her limbs would merge into tree roots.
Dumbs truly is your personal Griffith
If she tends to all dreams... Don't wet dreams count?2
Stinky dream boi.
GAH! BOOBAH
-Necrit
DAMMIT NICHOLAS! RIGHT AS I ARRIVE AT A PLACE WITH NO WIFI!
Holy shit nicky boi sorry to say that but DEER god i just realised its been 2 months of rapid fire skin reviews and casual champion reviews
10:02 you were thinking of a *cervitaur!*
Aero-ace?
hmmm, never heard of that kind of plane before.
I love how we all agree on who's said individual.
Hey for what its worth i digged the extra animal bits of the first design. Dont get me wrong the revision is better but similar to elden rings concept of the crucible, life energy depicted as a mix of all things is very cool and im always happy to see it 🤙
Nicki has strong dad vibes when it comes to Lillia: "she is so wholesome and needs to be protected and I wont let my babygirl date with this HALF DEMON HALF STRIPPER and wont let anyone touch her with their dirty hands"
So cute
7:18 i can definitely see lillia being aroace, but i dont quite understand how shyness is a great metaphor for being aroace
Shikanoko Nokonoko Koshitantan
Take a shot everytime Nicky says "wholesome"
Lillia Top is some of the most fun i have had in league because when you get matched against a less mobile champ it is just unfair. Skirmish Lillia as i like to call it with phase rush just makes it so that you cannot be hit
the rioter having to add "not balance" is so sad lmao
Man, for an asexual you never fail to mention the sex stuff of each character :/
It is curious
oh no the "my drawing is bad"
Dont be the pick me girl.
Yours is fine. cartoony is perfectly fine
Kindred redesign so that you can feel a little bit more peaceful? I'm starting to realize that maybe the best designs just comes from people that don't care about sex at all.
My favorite redesign you've done is 100% the snake but I agree that Lilia would be second lol
WHOLESOME DEER WINS!
0:42 i recognize so many of these memes xD
Now that I think about it, the fact Nicky is incapable of bringing up Dumbs (a person I would assume he considers a friend, based on multiple videos with him), without mentioning the deer thing, seems more disgusting to me, to be honest.
Yone and Lillia are besties and should hold hands
Oh i can see there 22:32 about dumbs commission fan art
She became a pokemon
Aw there was only *one* fanart of bodily harm on Dumbs. Im dissapointed.
Lilia is a lot like Briar to me, in one respect; I write a lot of shipping stuff but I just couldn't ship either of them with anybody. They just give off such strong aroace energy. Really strong 'this character is just curious and friendly and wants to make friends' vibes.
It's a little more morbid with Briar because she's likely to chomp her friends but really all she wants is friends.
Bunnies don't do a lot, Nicky. Just be scared, make babies, go next. Hopping is all they got.
Lillia is my main character in league. I love her sillyness, and im really sad of what happened to her :(
I'm just gonna say something and leave... YES, YOU CAN!!!! owo
I know you mentioned this but my only real concern with your redesign (all of your redesigns really) is that I don’t think they’re radical enough, they’re way too conservative in relation to the original design. Still all much better than the originals tho.
I OTP Lillia, but seeing her laning looks cool. She was kind of gutted from top lane season 14. Jungling is so good for her tho. She wants to scale, and punish overextension, and i think she is the best at that over the course of a game than any other jungler.
I love your lillia redesign ❤️ but... Hear me out, Lillia with shorter hair👀✨ i think that would slap
Well hate to break it to ya Nicky but relationships like that have been said to be canon in runeterra.... How do you think vastaya's were made... BUT I doubt there is a relationship there cause... It's yone... Would be hilarious though considering what's going on with ahri and yasuo. But pretty sure it's just she trusts yone a lot which means a lot for someone like her, and he hunts demons, nocturne is (supposedly) hunting her and is a possible demon, she wants to stop him from spreading nightmares, you see were the pairing makes sense.
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So NickyBoi is a furry lover!
By a certain someone you mean the target of 7th category 500?
As an Ace man, I've never related to another UA-camr more. "Torso duct taped to a deer" was my exact response when she was released. You've hit every thought I've ever had with character designs in league. You're my favorite Nicky.
You should redesign Nocturne as Lillia's antithesis. I'd kill to see how monstrous you could make Nocturne.
Wait till you guys discover what a centaur is...