@@Jan_IedemaRell, Illaoi, Zeri, Renata ... So much exemple of great unique female characters from Riot, sometimes they just don't even try it seems like
How come we always get the "I want petite somewhat furry, cute aitistic anime girl" oc dev and never "I want giant flaming lizard with a greatsword" oc dev
Both do, Gwen took a bigger blow mostly bc due to her concept, genshin/generic rpg design was not in the top of preferred styles to work that concept on
They both fit, but Gwen is at least still somewhat believable for being a doll come to life, especially being the doll of a queen from a rich kingdom. If it weren't for this, her design would also be extremely immersion breaking. Its not like Gwen's design is that good, but its far better than Aurora's
I just find it baffling that, after being criticised for Sett not looking very Vastayan, and multiple times for Freijord champions not dressing like someone from the Freijord, they make a barely Vastayan champion from the Freijord who doesn't dress appropriately, with her vastayan features looking like they are just... stuck onto her outfit. She doesn't remind me of Xayah and Rakan, she reminds me of Battle Bunny Riven. Also I fully agree with you about the downfall of goonkind's reputation.
Criticized in comment sections of videos like this one? Sure, plenty of criticism. Criticism in the way that matters? That being what brings in money? Absolutely not. Sett sells skins like crazy.
The thing is tho … almost all Freljordian champs show skin and a lot of it too. Ashe? Wears a skirt with bare thighs and bear arms. Braum and tryndamere? Literally shirtless. Olaf? Thighs and Arms. Even Trundle is basically just a looncloth (I know hes a frost troll, but if we’re arguing semantics here why is she being a bunny with furr not a valid point then?). The lack of appropriate clothing for a winter region I think is the point of design for the Freljord, making it different than most other Ice/Snow Regions in other games.
@@zachtemoro2116 You fail to consider that multiple of these designs are incredibly old and outdated, specifically Tryndamere and Ashe. Look at Sejuani for comparison. You can also look at Runeterra, apart from Volibear's followers and the spiritwalkers, these people don't dress like that at all. Braum being shirtless is en explicit part of his design, his legend, what sets him apart from other people, he's like the one human for whom it makes sense. As for the Trundle/Aurora comparison and the point of her being a snow rabbit, that would work *_if she had thick fur._* The entire point of Vastayans is that they are humans enhanced by animal features. Aurora decidedly lacks the features of a rabbit that would help her against the cold, they've shown her wearing a cloak to protect herself from the weather. It's not believable for her to suddenly be frost-proof because she has a tail and ears. She still has 90% human physiology, compared to Trundle who is a fantasy being from top to bottom. I can believe Trundle doesn't get affected by the cold. I can't do the same for Aurora, especially when they show that she has clothes meant to fend it off.
@@GumshoeClassic what a cop out excuse. “They’re old designs so checkmate” is such a weird, non sensical answer bc clearly, Aurora, is following the EXACT same design philosophy as others there. Like why are you pretending that the designs of the earlier champs are exceptions to a new made up Design Choice for Freljord rather than the definition of what the designs are supposed to be like? To make the argument for you, Ashe in “Still Here” does get an updated look with more covering her … but Tryndamere doesn’t. Same with Olaf, still has a lot of skin showing in that cinematic. So clearly its not even an old aesthetic from a bygone era of league thing, its still actively a choice made for characters in that region. Removing all of that though I just don’t like the design, I just don’t see how it makes any sense to criticize it from a “Freljordian” angle when almost all their roster wears revealing clothing in a Tundra setting. To me thats what made the region different than most other Fantasy Winter regions in games
@@zachtemoro2116 Tryndamere is explicitly a man defying death at every turn, and Olaf is someone who *seeks* death. While I don't really agree, there is room to justify them not protecting themselves against the cold. But Sejuani doesn't run around like that, neither does Nunu, or the vast majority of the non-Volibear aligned Freijordians we have seen in the entire franchise. Being half-naked is not a core part of Freijord culture, and decade-old designs that Riot doesn't flip on their head due to needing to keep them recognizable as the established characters are not "the definition of what the designs are supposed to be like". And even if we were to accept that Freijord people just don't cover up (which again, is not the case for most of them, there are mountains of artwork showing it), *we have seen that Aurora does, literally the first look we ever had at her showed her wearing protective clothing.*
I stoped caring about Freljord champions not being clothed for low temprature. Exluding Demigods, and Gnar we have 7 champs not wearing right clothes for cold and only 3 who do: Nunu, Sejuani and Lissandra. At this point its just Freljord thing and I dont think Riot will ever fix, or even care about this issue.
@@evalyne1105not sure if you realise but fur needs to actaully exist across a surface to keep it warm, so having fur on your back doesnt warm exposed arms for example
@@evalyne1105ok so, why is she covering her whole torso if she doesn't need? Or you're telling me that only her thighs can produce enough heat as to not need any clothing there? Even then, that's very weak fur, you can even see her skin at places
I think the full voice shows it better than I know how to explain it but personality wise she isn't supposed to be shy I think. More of a straight foward person who is very passionate about the things she likes and has little energy/interest in social stuff. So like the cloak thingy is not that much about shyness but something else (maybe seclussion until she gets ornn's trust and "opens up" or maybe just promotional 'uuuu i wonder what will she look like' but idrk)
She isn't, I don't understand why he said she's shy either. Unlike Lillia, who went for a "shy but cute" girl stereotype for sex appeal, here Aurora is more of a "nerdy cute self-confident girl"
Nicky, the pause feature IS in live. But it's only available in customs. It's the worst grief you can run into when you get a pauser in your custom by allowing randoms in.
@@supremeheroism7524 dawg does NOT respect the art of storytelling. Exaggeration is like, one of the most frequently used story telling tools to exist, if this is your reaction to seeing someone use it then you are either miserably boring, or extraordinarily insufferable. Did they actually say it out loud? eh, 50/50, its possible, we weren't there, we can't prove either way, but dude this comment actually makes you look like a massive clown, or a redditor, which might be worse.
I love how of many OG Leaguetubers, only Darkmane has remained, still continuing with his wackass builds and loving league with his heart, like the dude was the game's only big defender during the 'Don't play league just because you liked Arcane' era.
@@crimsoneclipse0618 I always loved him, the videos that aren't league themed are my favourite, but I always enjoyed the glorious guides too. He's the one who got me into dark souls with the ds3 video and I've now sunken a total of 1000 hours in soulsborne , that one video really changed what games I play to this day. He's also just hilarious, I remember being really sick one night and I just binged his videos , shit made me feel so much better
@@savakirilov5263 yeah, he has such a disctincg voice and direction in his videos that makes him stand out no matter what game he plays. Him playing Civ and making an entire fanfic is my favorite of his.
@@crimsoneclipse0618 I love the ones where he is not even playing games, him cooking with a running home throughout the video or reacting to Indian shows he used to watch as a child for example
Imma be honest, besides the fact that the coat design and the art concepts of Aurora were absolute bangers in comparison of what we got in game what pisses me off is the fact that Aurora is able to see into the spirit realm. AND HAS ZERO INTERACTIONS WITH SHEN XD. Like, RIOT, stop trying to exploit league for money and give it some love ffs
I dunno what comic you read but she definitely wasn't shy. The whole reason she got Ornn's attention was that she stayed despite his grumpiness and kept asking about things.
She is, extremely obviously meant to be autistic tbh. Doesn’t like talking about things other than her interests isn’t a fan of social interactions doesn’t take hints had a unique sensory experience. Home girl has ASD
I literally said how her "fur" coloring being effectively the same as regular skin toning has the same reasonability as the whole "blood bag" excuse they gave for Briar and people said I was exaggerating.
Even though I'm a rather horny guy, who loves red-haired/ginger girls in anime and animation, I still think this design does not work well. The cloak design works so much better, it ramps up her adorableness so much.
As someone who is also a horny guy and loves red-hairs/gingers and thighs, I agree. Hell, the idea of her using her ears to make a scarf is adorable. Also, you can show them thighs in her cloak, or have her decloaked when she jumps in the spirit realm or when she ults, have her go all out to defeat that powerful enemy just this once. I still like her design, don't get me wrong, because dem thighs, but I think a cloak and witch hat would've been nice (hell, maybe not making her Freljordian would've been better, I can see her being Demacian, from the outskirts of the country, maybe Morgana's disciple
@@CrabKFP Ahh. I was about to ask how she'd even manage in Demacia to begin with, nevermind be able to do the research she does in a place that's very anti-magic. In the literal sense too.
To push the lilia sameness. little spirit goobers were introduced to revolve around lilia in LoR. Seeing the same little spirit goober around Aurora feels so redundant
aurora is very very unoriginal in her entire champ, she's lillia with legs but less shy and more dumb, she says yone shouldnt kill spirits without knowing what azakana are ... at least lillia minds her business
@@soroushkowsarian3364 she also just yoinked taliyah's origin story with the special powers no one around her has and the older, tortured mentor who helps her out but ultimately can't teach her what she really wants.
To me, she definitely looks better with a smaller bust. Makes her look more lithe and mousey. But the day Riot makes a properly dressed Freljordian champion is the day the world ends.
@@WholesomeVolibear Lissandra is not even wearing gloves. Nunu doesn't count. He's too young to understand how important it is to be sexy in a blizzard yet. Willump might forget to teach him. And by Sejuani, I see you mean "new" Sejuani. Look up pre-rework.
I was a bit surprised at the thin sleeves at first too, but then I realized that her jacket actually is supposed to resemble an arctic hare, with the very fluffy chest/neck and the very thin limbs. After I noticed that I ended up falling in love with her design as a whole. Looks great from the overhead summoner POV too. I do mourn the complete loss of the cloak, though.
To me, Aroura feels like if the original champion idea had a skin and that skin was turned into the actual character. She has the boots, a witches hat, with these other clothes that look too high-fashion to be in the base Freljord region. I also don’t think the witch hat was a good idea not because it looks bad but it severely what skin aesthetics can be done with her. Bewitching is obviously going to happen, she would have made a good candy skin if it was not discontinued, and I guess faerie court but that’s all I can think of.
I kinda agree with the OC bit, I think all of the champions since Hwei (excluding the Skarner rework) have felt that way. I love the visuals of the spirit realm and finally getting some freljord lore, but yeah she does feel very shoehorned in for the sake of it
I don't know what's worse: that it's another (female) vastaya that looks like a regular human woman with animal ears, or that, after her teaser showed her in a mildly interesting cloak, she ended up looking like she's wearing a sexy Halloween costume. This is probably the worst character design for a new-ish champion I've seen, and that's really something in the Year of Our Lord Smolder 2024.
She's just an extremely heavily oversexualised character. Short curly hair, glasses, freckles, soft bunny ears and a tail, and even her clothing plays further into the "cute nerdy girl" concept, with her shoulders and thighs not being covered. She is factually the most oversexualised character in League, especially because her story doesn't focus on her attractiveness at all, unlike with Elise for example
@@tamas9554 I dunno, there's still LoL Janna and Nidalee. They at least have an "excuse" of being ancient, though. Aurora is not only too sexualized, she doesn't look like she belongs in the world at all. In case of Nidalee, I can at least imagine someone dressing in animal skins and living in a jungle. The only place that Aurora looks like she belongs to is a Piltovan costume party, and even then just barely.
@@ninjatoriumnova2483 Nidalee is perfeclty fine for a "wild jungle huntress" character, her outfit actually makes sense, criticising her for it would be like saying why is Tarzan shirtless :DD Janna is just severely outdated at this point, same with Syndra and many other character too. (LeBlanc) I agree though, Aurora is a modern character and she has none of those explanations of being outdated or her look actually fitting the narrative. She really only would make sense in Piltover or some other new region. Problem is her character doesn't give us worldbuilding about her tribe either, so its even less believable
@@tamas9554 Nidalee is wearing a fur bikini. It's another outfit that looks like a sexy cosplay. On the other hand, the armor that she's wearing on the picture for her flavor story is great.
I thought that after Ashe’s voice update they would have made themselves self aware of the lack of clothing in Freljord champs… So you’re telling me Aurora, who’s not even an iceborn or completely covered in fur is running around in shorts and exposed shoulders? AND she mocks Lewis’s outfit?
I disagree with this opinion. She is Freljordian Vastaya. It seems her race is just really adapted to cold climate of Freljord, just like Ice Trolls for example.
Aurora is FROM the Freljord, but she is not IN the Freljord. Aurora is a traveler. When she's in the Freljord, she wears her cloak for warmth and coverage. When she's elsewhere in the world (and therefore doesn't need the cloak), she wears her normal clothes, including her hat. It's not complicated.
personally i think Haestryr is the elk of bones, a demi-god of the freljord wich seems to have something to do with divination or death. the reason why he doesn't have many followers is explained by the legends of runeterra card: bone scryer wich has this description: Few scry the future as well as the shamans serving the Elk of Bones. Fewer still can stomach seeing the looming death of any who come seeking their foresight. Haestryr probably isn't him since we only know about the ellk from the bone scryer card and no other sources. but that's my theory.
I mean, technically every champ is someone's OC. Also, like it's seconds after this video uploaded, so this could show up as a topic he discusses, but since this was a pretty hot topic on her, I personally think Aurora being openly labelled as autistic is good and important actually. Labels are important, and sure sometimes it might seem pandery and for show, but it also allows people to easily identify with the character. People may say 'good representarion shouldn't be so overt and shpuld be read between the lines' but those same people only do that so that they can ignore those things and bully the people who interpret those characters as that identity. Aurora being labelled as autistic, played by an autistic voice actress, and written to be autistic is important so that the ignorant and hateful people who would want these things to be buried and quiey can't do so with her, and so that people who relate to her because of her autism can openly do so without anyone denying them that.
My problem is that they removed the actually interesting design of her being a vlosed off individual and just said make her hot instead. Like what about that conveys the character’s personality whatsoever? Not saying autistic people can’t be hot but come on. This is lazy design.
I think you care waay too much about what other people think, who cares if some random person on the internet says a fictional character is autistic or not?
@@atsukana1704Oh don't get me wrong, I agree with you on the character design. Mine is more on her identiyy, since I saw a lot of discourse on thay specifically. Like design wise, shr could be so much better.
@@erlandochoa8278 Autistic people may care, and if you don't, great! Then there is no reason at all to mind the fact that she is, just ignore it, people who care will be glad, just let'em.
One thing I genuinely love about Aurora, is that she's an autistic character who isn't stereotypical, like she has social competency! She's not emotionally stunted or child like! Also she's clearly an autistic character who isn't afraid to be pretty, it's nice to see an autistic character for once who ISN'T stereotypically ace, not that I dislike ace characters, just that I as an autistic person, almost never see, good, autistic characters who aren't ace. It just makes me a little sad that a large portion of us autistics, that y'know are straight and gay and bi and demi and pan and so on, are nearly never represented. But Aurora clearly has some sexuality as a person in their design, not sexualised, but that she wants to look good. It's a strange thing to notice, but it's one that was clear. And that she also just can speak to people, and speak her mind, while still having a hard time relating. I like that, and relate to it. Like just look at what she says to Voli, casually telling a Demigod to quit trying to get in her hand with extreme confidence, I love it!
A thing I've noticed about autistic characters. If the character is stated, in universe, to be autistic, then they're usually terrible representation. If a character is never stated to be autistic in the story (regardless of whether or not it's the intent), then they're usually great representation. There are exceptions of course, but I've noticed this a lot that they're generally a token autistic character when they're stated to be autistic in the story, because the writers just want the brownie points, while if they're not stated to be autistic in the story, then they want to let the audience figure that out for themselves, so they take more care to make them feel more real. Even if they say in dev blogs or interviews or whatever that they are autistic, they still need to push that in the story so that people who don't read those can figure it out.
The problem is that she is still kind of a Mary Sue, which makes her an extremely boring character. She has basically no real insecurities, grievances or other flaws. This is why I believe she is a self-insert from the writer. Also for Riot wanting her to be a representation for autism, that is completely and utterly unclear from reading her bio for example. I've only learned that she was meant to be this after reading it, and it was quite surprising because her story never includes or hints at it in any way. And this is not mentioning her backstory adding basically nothing to the world, while her design is also lore-breaking :/
While I understand what you mean, I feel that she's still rather stereotypic, just that instead of being the "Oblivious and unaware child autist", she's the "Hyperfixated autist", mainly from her in-game voicelines cuz they make it feel like all she cares about is Spirits and doesn nothing but talk about Spirits 24/7, there's also the "I hate social interaction" smidges of voicelines here and there that feel kinda forced imo, like they asked what was an introvert trait everyone knows and can relate to and slapped that into her character.
@@zetacomet5961 I mean some of the voice lines do feel forced, but you could say that for every champion. A lot of irelia's voice lines are just her constantly repeating something along the lines of "I miss my family" & "all noxians are rats". Some of samira's voice lines sound like a straight millenial trying a little too hard to use ballroom talk. Akali, kayn, zed, etc. all have a redundant amount of edgy lines. The forced "i hate social interaction" type of voice lines do feel like poor characterization for aurora, but it's kinda unfair to judge her for that when most champions have some kind of forced voice line to exaggerate their personality. Same could kinda be said about her hyperfixation being 90% of her personality and voice lines
@@Ren-jh3xb sure, but it’s not so much that “edgyness/exaggeration” is bad, but “how far can you push edge and exaggeration without falling in harmful stereotypes”, all characters you listed range from cool badass rouge to edgelord and their edge is an extension of their character, something you’d expect from them without putting their archetype under a bad light. Also just because a defect is shared among other characters doesn’t mean that it’s excusable, half of the freljord champs also don’t wear cold-appropriate clothing but you’re not gonna use that to excuse Aurora's clothing.
I'm not an artist but it makes me happy that the amount of fan arts are getting back in numbers now. You guys are part of this series as much as the lore and Nicky's gameplay
What I like about Aurora is that I think in the lore Ornn doesn’t like creating stuff with magic because he thinks magic erodes his things. And then he meets Aurora, and makes her wand and witch hat.
it may be he doesnt mind magic users and making gear that harnesses that magic but he does mind when magic users apply magic to his perfectly fine creations that werent made with magic in mind
I kinda agree with you when you say about Rakan and Xayah.I alway feel weird that a champion base on a very hyper active animal like rabbit is austistic and shy????
I feel like as a counterpoint: beauty has nothing to do with personality it is just how you were born, so I dont know why it should have something to do with powers or story. I know riot has a buch of sexualized characters, perhaps too much, but I also dont agree that characters have to be attractive if it fits in her lore or abilities like evelyn. I mean she can just be born pretty and thats she doesnt have to become a seductress or a narcisist
It's true that beauty doesn't have to say anything about the character, but their presentation does. She could be beautiful and wear clothes that prioritize her comfort or her being a traveler, so she wouldn't be emphasizing her body. But she wears a short dress that shows her shoulders and thighs with a fur collar and high boots. And the dress emphasizes her figure, so she is showing off to an extent. It's not about the beauty, is about what you decide to emphasize in the design.
But we’re not talking about real people, we’re talking about fictional characters. They do tend to fit personalities and body types together for a reason, it’s more coherent and recognizable
Cloack has to be one of earlier versions of design but then artist just got hypnotised by Wizzard's hat and you can't realisticly combine those , so cloak had to go bye bye.
The Haestryr problem's been addressed in the past from LoR's Kindred and other death gods popping out, trivializing their uniqueness as "Death, straight up" and instead fell back to the faith-powered existence for spirits we've come to know now like Janna's. Not to say it's not executed well, cause I do personally like how their personalities are portrayed, but more so there's really no need for them to exist in the first place and really watered down the lore just to "make them feel belonging to Runeterra" though more-so it's to provide wiggle-room for lore writers, that is if there's any still left. Still, the community ate up the "more death gods" statement and that brought us here to the world of twisting pre-existing constants for the sake of novelty; long gone is the era of fitting characters in Runeterra itself and no doubt Riot would do it again for future champs.
LoR had issues with this because they needed creature cards that fit with the champions, both gameplay wise and thematically. That's why they created other personnifications of death to fit with Kindred, or other anti-magic golems to fit with Galio. I feel like they should have been non canon.
Yeah, Zeri feels like a character that would exist after a big timeskip where the fashion and enviornment is made more similar to the modern era. Aurora is cute, I have a bias for the hybrid animal Vastaya like Xayah and Rakan.
I agree but it still feels like Zeri could definitely exist in League and was designed for league. Aurora feels like she designed as a mobile game gatcha character first and then a league character second
i think watching the chat in this video while nickyboi talks about champion designs sums up everything you need to know about the deep seeded toxicity of league players.
I don't really see what you mean by OC for it because I feel you could be that way about any new champion in league who wasn't teased before in lore (maybe even if they are or not). I sorta see being worried about a character being made from the thought of having a bunny mage in runeterra but I feel thats apart of just any design, like a concept and where it could or would fit in the pre-existing universe. The take with being friends with every Demi-god is felt and if she ends up being a friend to them all, I dont think I personally would enjoy that but with Ornn i think its an interesting decision that could add more depth to someone like Ornn who is kinda just the grumpy old shut in (for good reasons ofc). Honestly she will probably be like Seraphine on release and hopefully grow/show she is a character of runeterra but i think almost any new champion, not teased in lore, may come off as OC like because we never knew of them before so they seem placed in (which tbh they are but every champion is, Ksante's feels that way for me)
9:31 In defense of that, I used to work at a grocery store and I'd usually wear a skirt there, and whenever I had to do work inside the fridges, as long as I my torso and arms were decently covered, I didn't really feel much cold so I think it's plausible that a bunny girl who's lived her whole life in the cold would not be bothered by a little bit of her thighs and shoulders being exposed.
@@acatwithwiskers9273 Valid tbh hehe I probably should've clarified that it's like 30°C outside, so my point was that if I who's used to warm weather could wear a skirt in the cold and be fine, someone who's lived in extreme cold all their life would be fine exposing a little bit of their body, not to mention that it's not like she dresses like that all the time. She has her cloak :p
in the legend of runeterra card game, arhi have a follower that is just a bunny person with branch horns. also we have seen bunny looking yordles like in the pentakill video, so they could have go for a more cute / small build too
Her lore is literally just Yorick's but for a sexy magical girl. Sees and interacts with otherworldly entities, everyone around them thinks they're weird, they do their best to use this gift to help out said entities. Where the sexy magical girl twist comes in is the fact that "x" family member believes and supports her, and her call to action is to help a big mystical being instead of getting their home obliterated.
@@Oscar97o Thats true after the ruination but before the sentinels event. In his early days he spoke to the dead and helped them move onto the afterlife. Everyone thought he was crazy and he was shunned by all.
In terms of her design, personality, mannerisms... I think you're kinda just projecting what you think she should be like rather than really looking at who she is. You say she's shy and quiet, but I never got that from her. She has very specific interests and will talk with you about them all day if you let her. Even Ornn noted that, saying she was inquisitive but not annoying. That all being said, I think this perceived "reserved" nature you've tried to place on her and expected to reflect in her clothing.. isn't a thing. Her being cute/sexy doesn't take away from her character, if you ask me. This isn't a Kai'sa situation. As for her lack of bunny mannerisms... I mean, what did you expect? Constant, agile hopping around? She doesn't like rambunctious, loud people, why would she want to be jumping around all the time? It makes sense that she'd be walking around calmly like 99% of the time. The only time she hops is to make a quick escape into the spirit world, otherwise she's chillin.
this is 1000000% another kai’sa situation and mega detracts from her character hot sexy genshin anime girl number 2518 wow amazing i def care about this champ and her character yep mhm
@@Memyx sure just make every character conventionally hot and cute in the most uninspired way possible. why not? who needs diversity in character designs? why should anything make sense? enjoy thicc uwu cute anime girl no.7658... clearly there wasn't enough r34 material in the game.....
@@authenticbaguette6673 I do get the need for more diversity, but nobody has given me an actual answer as to how her being conventionally hot actually takes away from her character, so... just sounds like y'all're mad for the sake of being mad.
@@Memyx The burden of proof is on you. Why does she need to be hot? What does it serve beyond distracting from other elements of her character? The combination of her being "autistic and shy uwu" but also being "coincedentally" hot and thicc fills me with immense ickiness. I hate it to my very bone marrow.
Im getting tired of the new releases. They dont even count to the Runeterra universe for me, I just think of them as the in game additions and thats it
13:23 they did not look at your video about your Redsign of Cassiopia, or comments on Eveelyn. Like you love it when it fits and adds to the character, whether or not your into it yourself(or at all).
Yeah autism is a very modern word, but it's been around a long time. Modern science only identified it as a unique thing a few decades ago. The first person to be officially diagnosed is still alive and well. In the old days they used to call autistic people various forms of mental disorders, or in more superstitions times things such as "possessed", "spirit touched", and "changeling". It uh, it did not usually end well for them.
Fun fact about the pause: It was already in game for a long time and it just works in custom games, original purpose of pause is to be used in esport games
She feels like an Ionian character more than a Freljordian one. Like, don't get me wrong, she's got some decent lore, a pretty unique kit (minus Twitch's expunge) and stuff... But being in a snowy environment, like a normal winter hair, she should be a shade of white, and if they're pushing her to be an introverted autistic character, she should be a little more...you know, dressed like one. Long sleeves, baggy clothes (like Vex) and a hood. Yet I do like her hat that Orrn gave her. I agree with most of Nicky's points. Not going to play her much though. I'd rather play a bat character than a bunny one
I don’t like that she first looked like a very different champion than what we already have and now she’s just generic sexy girl n°58 but with bunny ears … also looks a lot like Mikaela Reid from Dead by Daylight (most commercial and skin selling survivor character)
I think her story is more or less a convenient self-insert which actually contributes very little to the story. We don't get to know anything about her tribe, how do they survive in the Freljord, what is their culture like, when and why did they come here, whats their technology level, etc. Like, this is important because Aurora's clothing (especially glasses), suggests that they are quite an advanced tribe despite living in the harshest natural region of Runeterra, yet we know nothing. How did Aurora even learn to use her magic for example? Thats also unanswered, despite LoL's story being clear that you can't just teach yourself magic, it doesn't work like that. (Lux) How can she survive outside of her village's safety, out in the cold, where plant life is basically absent and the only creatures she could hunt won't give up easily? And this isn't even the self-insert part, that happens with the Ornn stuff. Like, of course she just stumbles upon a dying and mad old spirit-god, who of course doesn't end up killing her like it did many others, and of course she finds Udyr and later Ornn's residence. After all of this, of course Ornn realises she is entirely different from everyone he's ever met and welcomes her in like a father figure. But Aurora is no simple innocent character either, she is charismatic, wise and seems extremely capable in all regards, despite her supposedly having no actual way to come into possession of the knowledge she has. She feels like if someone inserted their OC into the story, hence why her meeting with Udyr and Ornn feels so convenient. She needs these for her story to work, and unlike Nami for example, she easily finds the people important for her objective. And this is not even counting what the story says about her current goal, because thats somewhat unclear as well. She kinda is like a Mary Sue, though this isn't suprising from the writer who also created Milio :D
you made the best points about her. when i read the comic and played the interactive novel in the league client i was SOOOOOOO baffled by how conveniently she barged in on Ornn's life such a Mary Sue smh, and the problem with this story design is compared to an incomplete story like Nami's is that there is no more room for more lore and new short stories for Aurora? she seems like a one-and-done character whose character arc ended the moment it began
@@thechocowizard Basically. We know that in order to heal Hestrelk, she would somehow have to make the people of the Freljord believe in him again. But thats not what her story says, because it follows as this: "Believing these demigods hold the key to Hestrelk’s recovery, Aurora has left Hearth-Home and now traverses through the material and spirit realms of her frozen homeland in unwavering pursuit of their knowledge." So, does this mean she will search for other spirit-gods too? Will she ask them questions as well? What will happen after that? I mean if Ornn couldn't do anything to help them, why would the others? Its also such a convenient way of her getting to know about all of this, like these solutions are just offered up on a silver platter. The writer of Aurora's story actually also wrote Milio. In his background, he literally became the master of the fire axiom, basically the rule which ixtaly people use to manipulate fire, because he "studied nature himself". So not only did he master a discipline others would fail to do so WITH a master training them for years, but also discovered an ENTIRELY new way of using fire. Like, this is fanfiction levels, I'm not even sorry for saying that :DD
3:34 is it, well since it's a small dash not realy but with the addition of the Invisability I feel it might be, as certain assasins need to target something to damage their abilities in close range, so her just doing this is pretty pushy, I'd make a change: Upon Aroura becoming invisible she will slowly turn into camoflauge the longer she stays hidden, increasing the range of it overtime. This should be where while she can access the realm she can't stay in there for as long as she wants without consequences, this makes it to where she has to make use of the actually little time she has, like a 0.5 secs to avoid being seen or the camoflauge will quickly give her away, for agression it has the enemy be rewarded for keeping track of you.
I have absolutely unreasonable bias against her. I just feel like her final design and lore just ended up so disappointing, she doesn't seem special, her outfit seems generic and is way too flashy for her personality, her horned spirit friend isn't even anywhere around her in game? It just feels like everything about her innitial reveal in the minigame just doesn't translate to anything else and that sucks.
20:36 this little tangent perfectly describes how I felt about this character. I just wish at the very least the animations helped with her character. Sure make her hot with the thighs or whatever but at least make her animations feel nerdy or shy. Hop a little (you mentioned this a little after that timestamp too) or anything that makes her feel like her own character. The lack of those animations make the actual bunny ones, like when she hops in her portals, feel kinda off or 'cartoony' ig
From what I could tell a lot of her attack lines are "personal space please" I dont think she's meant to be shy i think its the autistic trait of "i dont like being near people" Which kinda works with her abilities- her big blast knocking her away and going invisible so people cant find/be close to you. Ig her ult could be odd if that were the case since she's literally locking herself and others into a space but eh
I found the Twitter discourse around her outfit funny since it's been well established that practical clothing is outlawed in Freljord. Body type and other criticism of her design is totally valid but I think the outfit should have been expected lol.
I think there's an interesting conversation to be had about what "fits" as a League of Legends character, because I feel like that's always changing. To me, every champion is very self contained. They all have their own quirks, rivalries, themes, and those don't always fit into the greater narrative. I think part of that is Riot's bad habit of never progressing anyone's story, always moving onto the next champ rather than fleshing out pre-existing ones, but that's been an issue since way before the "pretty people" era of champions that we are currently in, so when I see one of those out of place OC-ish champs (like Aurora, Gwen, or Sett), it doesn't necessarily feel like a betrayal of design to me, they almost feel like individual stories with their own pros and cons. Idk where I stand on it exactly, because when we do get cool interweaving narrative stuff like Arcane, and Ruined King, it's amazing and I want more of it, but at the same time League of Legends was born from a hodgepodge of random ideas and themes for champions. Like, I can't imagine a conversation between Kled and Akali, but both a very well designed characters who speak to a specific thematic and demographic, and it's awesome they can be in the same game. So even if a champ like Aurora isn't exactly for me and a lot of the people I know, idk if I feel comfortable saying she doesn't fit as an official champion, even if I agree with almost all your other points. All that said, Aurora's not being tied around her head is absolute cowardice on Riot's end. 0/10 dogwater champion. I'll be waiting for her VGU.
I really like how they did like the disassociation of what autism people do in a interesting way of like oh she can see spirits. I thought it was a good representation that way to add more to here and here autism
@@JinRupeeland I will say yes with how frightfully spot on you are on describing my image. The coat is wrong l, it was from that detective set I forgot the name. I see the Chase hasn't left you.
a freljord champ i came up with, i called Helga, the mountain rescuer, weapon was a ballista, all abilities healed, 4/5 had bonus effect. body big like illaoi,+bird vastaya to tie to rakan an xayah
Hmmm... I feel like you can do a lot of things the design already does, while also making her fit into the setting. It just takes a bit more thinking on how to get there. Also, I do think you can make any character's story sound like someone's oc.
I think the change to the splash art was to make her more "Fluffy" rather than more thicc, hard to dance around that line tho, so its easy to missrepresent it.
12:45 you know I too would've wished with the Briar scenario that the champion designer would've just been human in autheticity and just said "I love big thighs", though there was a valid reason like how briar could only use her legs so ofcourse they're going to be stronger, however they missed the memo of having her be a locked up torutured individual as she's treated as a tool, personality it's optimism or it should be but in design that isn't well shown. Anyway Auora could have the thigh thing actually make sense with that reason, she hops like a bunny with stronger legs, so it does give a well enough excuse for her to have big thighs.
Not gonna lie, the first time I saw her splash, it reminded me of all those generic "nerdy redhaired shy girls" that are everywhere in the prawn tanks of the 'hub. I still can't look at that emote version of her face.
To quote a person on twitter:
"Why does she get to have the power we all autistic introverts want: Invisible on command"
AND it refreshes upon killing someone
@@azurabbit12 not particularly useful about that part irl but better than not
@@laikhoabang not useful for YOU anyways
twitch shaco eve have been quite since that
Holy shit! Am I autistic?
Edit: "Walking on your toes is apparently an autism thing." SERIOUSLY, DO I HAVE AUTISM!!!?
i will never forgive them from taking the fluffy cloak from me
Like riot has the self control to not make a female champ like a league female champ…
The legs are for an IV bag shape
Absolutely HATE that they took her jacket off. Makes her design so much less unique!
@@Jan_IedemaRell, Illaoi, Zeri, Renata ... So much exemple of great unique female characters from Riot, sometimes they just don't even try it seems like
I am with you!
"Rabbits have blood in them so we decided to give her the shape of an IV bag"
How come we always get the "I want petite somewhat furry, cute aitistic anime girl" oc dev and never "I want giant flaming lizard with a greatsword" oc dev
That's for the Shyvanna rework
@@zetacomet5961 We can only hope
"Hey, we got a new dragon for ya!"
"That's awesome!"
*Presents rejected Skylander design*
"Nevermind!"
Because the industry is full of cowards who can't handle the sight of a monster woman who actually looks like a monster.
Preach!👐
>walking on your tip toes is an autism thing
>well I guess now I need to go see a doctor
Well shit
any update
fr now idk if i have to see a doctor too. that's how I learned to walk..
Yeah found that out last year... got a 186 on one of those online tests. Finally a high score, my parents can finally be proud of me.
I think people are misunderstanding what shes doing, shes not on her toes, she literally has rabbit feen and can only walk tall lol
@@joefamliyguy1551 its both. it was a design choice to represent that
Gwen gets the blame for being a genshin look a like but i can see aurora fitting in genshin more
On god, i agree
Both do, Gwen took a bigger blow mostly bc due to her concept, genshin/generic rpg design was not in the top of preferred styles to work that concept on
agree apart from that genshin characters use more shades of the same colours while Aurora has lot of different colours
They both fit, but Gwen is at least still somewhat believable for being a doll come to life, especially being the doll of a queen from a rich kingdom. If it weren't for this, her design would also be extremely immersion breaking.
Its not like Gwen's design is that good, but its far better than Aurora's
Aurora is very similar to a character from Granblue fantasy. They are both bunny women who can talk to light blue animal spirits
I really liked her better with the cloat (the "blurred" glasses like her icon were cool too)
I just find it baffling that, after being criticised for Sett not looking very Vastayan, and multiple times for Freijord champions not dressing like someone from the Freijord, they make a barely Vastayan champion from the Freijord who doesn't dress appropriately, with her vastayan features looking like they are just... stuck onto her outfit. She doesn't remind me of Xayah and Rakan, she reminds me of Battle Bunny Riven.
Also I fully agree with you about the downfall of goonkind's reputation.
Criticized in comment sections of videos like this one? Sure, plenty of criticism. Criticism in the way that matters? That being what brings in money? Absolutely not. Sett sells skins like crazy.
The thing is tho … almost all Freljordian champs show skin and a lot of it too. Ashe? Wears a skirt with bare thighs and bear arms. Braum and tryndamere? Literally shirtless. Olaf? Thighs and Arms. Even Trundle is basically just a looncloth (I know hes a frost troll, but if we’re arguing semantics here why is she being a bunny with furr not a valid point then?). The lack of appropriate clothing for a winter region I think is the point of design for the Freljord, making it different than most other Ice/Snow Regions in other games.
@@zachtemoro2116 You fail to consider that multiple of these designs are incredibly old and outdated, specifically Tryndamere and Ashe. Look at Sejuani for comparison.
You can also look at Runeterra, apart from Volibear's followers and the spiritwalkers, these people don't dress like that at all.
Braum being shirtless is en explicit part of his design, his legend, what sets him apart from other people, he's like the one human for whom it makes sense.
As for the Trundle/Aurora comparison and the point of her being a snow rabbit, that would work *_if she had thick fur._* The entire point of Vastayans is that they are humans enhanced by animal features. Aurora decidedly lacks the features of a rabbit that would help her against the cold, they've shown her wearing a cloak to protect herself from the weather. It's not believable for her to suddenly be frost-proof because she has a tail and ears. She still has 90% human physiology, compared to Trundle who is a fantasy being from top to bottom. I can believe Trundle doesn't get affected by the cold. I can't do the same for Aurora, especially when they show that she has clothes meant to fend it off.
@@GumshoeClassic what a cop out excuse. “They’re old designs so checkmate” is such a weird, non sensical answer bc clearly, Aurora, is following the EXACT same design philosophy as others there. Like why are you pretending that the designs of the earlier champs are exceptions to a new made up Design Choice for Freljord rather than the definition of what the designs are supposed to be like?
To make the argument for you, Ashe in “Still Here” does get an updated look with more covering her … but Tryndamere doesn’t. Same with Olaf, still has a lot of skin showing in that cinematic. So clearly its not even an old aesthetic from a bygone era of league thing, its still actively a choice made for characters in that region.
Removing all of that though I just don’t like the design, I just don’t see how it makes any sense to criticize it from a “Freljordian” angle when almost all their roster wears revealing clothing in a Tundra setting. To me thats what made the region different than most other Fantasy Winter regions in games
@@zachtemoro2116 Tryndamere is explicitly a man defying death at every turn, and Olaf is someone who *seeks* death. While I don't really agree, there is room to justify them not protecting themselves against the cold. But Sejuani doesn't run around like that, neither does Nunu, or the vast majority of the non-Volibear aligned Freijordians we have seen in the entire franchise. Being half-naked is not a core part of Freijord culture, and decade-old designs that Riot doesn't flip on their head due to needing to keep them recognizable as the established characters are not "the definition of what the designs are supposed to be like".
And even if we were to accept that Freijord people just don't cover up (which again, is not the case for most of them, there are mountains of artwork showing it), *we have seen that Aurora does, literally the first look we ever had at her showed her wearing protective clothing.*
I stoped caring about Freljord champions not being clothed for low temprature. Exluding Demigods, and Gnar we have 7 champs not wearing right clothes for cold and only 3 who do: Nunu, Sejuani and Lissandra. At this point its just Freljord thing and I dont think Riot will ever fix, or even care about this issue.
AURORA IS A VASTAYAH
VA. STA. YAH.
SAY IT WITH ME
VA. STA. YAH
SHE HAS NATURAL FUR
@@evalyne1105not sure if you realise but fur needs to actaully exist across a surface to keep it warm, so having fur on your back doesnt warm exposed arms for example
@@evalyne1105 where's er fur? it's so unobvious even though it's there, and certainly not thick enough for the cold
@@evalyne1105ok so, why is she covering her whole torso if she doesn't need?
Or you're telling me that only her thighs can produce enough heat as to not need any clothing there?
Even then, that's very weak fur, you can even see her skin at places
@@evalyne1105 is this "fur" in the room with us right now?
I think the full voice shows it better than I know how to explain it but personality wise she isn't supposed to be shy I think. More of a straight foward person who is very passionate about the things she likes and has little energy/interest in social stuff. So like the cloak thingy is not that much about shyness but something else (maybe seclussion until she gets ornn's trust and "opens up" or maybe just promotional 'uuuu i wonder what will she look like' but idrk)
She isn't, I don't understand why he said she's shy either. Unlike Lillia, who went for a "shy but cute" girl stereotype for sex appeal, here Aurora is more of a "nerdy cute self-confident girl"
@@tamas9554 Nicky forgot the word introverted existed.
Nicky, the pause feature IS in live. But it's only available in customs. It's the worst grief you can run into when you get a pauser in your custom by allowing randoms in.
I remember looking her up when I first heard of her and as soon as I saw her splash art I said out loud "Are you shitting me"
She looked way better in the Ornn minigame.
Someone from higherups saw her and was like "not sexy enough, fix this". Shame.
@@aabeeek "We need money, money moves the world and we love the money"
@@supremeheroism7524um actually 🤓
@@supremeheroism7524 dawg does NOT respect the art of storytelling.
Exaggeration is like, one of the most frequently used story telling tools to exist, if this is your reaction to seeing someone use it then you are either miserably boring, or extraordinarily insufferable.
Did they actually say it out loud? eh, 50/50, its possible, we weren't there, we can't prove either way, but dude this comment actually makes you look like a massive clown, or a redditor, which might be worse.
@@supremeheroism7524 Bro neither are you, picking apart someone's comment like this, get a fucking life.
I think she would look better with the coat she had in the story with ornn
Nicky I stopped playing league 3 years ago and you're the only league youtuber I still watch excluding Nithin Darkmane
I love how of many OG Leaguetubers, only Darkmane has remained, still continuing with his wackass builds and loving league with his heart, like the dude was the game's only big defender during the 'Don't play league just because you liked Arcane' era.
@@crimsoneclipse0618 I always loved him, the videos that aren't league themed are my favourite, but I always enjoyed the glorious guides too. He's the one who got me into dark souls with the ds3 video and I've now sunken a total of 1000 hours in soulsborne , that one video really changed what games I play to this day. He's also just hilarious, I remember being really sick one night and I just binged his videos , shit made me feel so much better
@@savakirilov5263 yeah, he has such a disctincg voice and direction in his videos that makes him stand out no matter what game he plays. Him playing Civ and making an entire fanfic is my favorite of his.
@@crimsoneclipse0618 I love the ones where he is not even playing games, him cooking with a running home throughout the video or reacting to Indian shows he used to watch as a child for example
@@savakirilov5263 his cooking videos were so psychotic ahahaha
Riot try not to add a gooner bait hyper mobile burst mage challenge (impossible)
Imma be honest, besides the fact that the coat design and the art concepts of Aurora were absolute bangers in comparison of what we got in game what pisses me off is the fact that Aurora is able to see into the spirit realm. AND HAS ZERO INTERACTIONS WITH SHEN XD. Like, RIOT, stop trying to exploit league for money and give it some love ffs
Lost the cloak for her to get a genshin impact costume
I dunno what comic you read but she definitely wasn't shy. The whole reason she got Ornn's attention was that she stayed despite his grumpiness and kept asking about things.
She is, extremely obviously meant to be autistic tbh. Doesn’t like talking about things other than her interests isn’t a fan of social interactions doesn’t take hints had a unique sensory experience. Home girl has ASD
I literally said how her "fur" coloring being effectively the same as regular skin toning has the same reasonability as the whole "blood bag" excuse they gave for Briar and people said I was exaggerating.
Even though I'm a rather horny guy, who loves red-haired/ginger girls in anime and animation, I still think this design does not work well. The cloak design works so much better, it ramps up her adorableness so much.
As someone who is also a horny guy and loves red-hairs/gingers and thighs, I agree. Hell, the idea of her using her ears to make a scarf is adorable. Also, you can show them thighs in her cloak, or have her decloaked when she jumps in the spirit realm or when she ults, have her go all out to defeat that powerful enemy just this once. I still like her design, don't get me wrong, because dem thighs, but I think a cloak and witch hat would've been nice (hell, maybe not making her Freljordian would've been better, I can see her being Demacian, from the outskirts of the country, maybe Morgana's disciple
@@CrabKFP...Morgana can make portals?
@@greschenglin-dz7wj i'm saying that, because she is a magical creature in Demacia, the best option she has for protection is Morgana
@@CrabKFP Ahh. I was about to ask how she'd even manage in Demacia to begin with, nevermind be able to do the research she does in a place that's very anti-magic.
In the literal sense too.
People like you always say this as if saving face when in reality you are all just weird af
I kinda wish they made her chubby, like Mei from Overwatch could’ve be perfect. She’s should’ve been a fluffy bunny.
I think Nicky forgets he posted those pictures on Twitter where everyone is just mad and use it as an outlet
To push the lilia sameness. little spirit goobers were introduced to revolve around lilia in LoR. Seeing the same little spirit goober around Aurora feels so redundant
aurora is very very unoriginal in her entire champ, she's lillia with legs but less shy and more dumb, she says yone shouldnt kill spirits without knowing what azakana are ... at least lillia minds her business
@@soroushkowsarian3364 she also just yoinked taliyah's origin story with the special powers no one around her has and the older, tortured mentor who helps her out but ultimately can't teach her what she really wants.
To me, she definitely looks better with a smaller bust. Makes her look more lithe and mousey.
But the day Riot makes a properly dressed Freljordian champion is the day the world ends.
May i introduce to you nunu lissandra and sejuani?
@@WholesomeVolibear
Lissandra is not even wearing gloves. Nunu doesn't count. He's too young to understand how important it is to be sexy in a blizzard yet. Willump might forget to teach him. And by Sejuani, I see you mean "new" Sejuani. Look up pre-rework.
@@Tsuki0ni to be fair the new sejuani is the character now. The old one is gone
I was a bit surprised at the thin sleeves at first too, but then I realized that her jacket actually is supposed to resemble an arctic hare, with the very fluffy chest/neck and the very thin limbs. After I noticed that I ended up falling in love with her design as a whole. Looks great from the overhead summoner POV too. I do mourn the complete loss of the cloak, though.
To me, Aroura feels like if the original champion idea had a skin and that skin was turned into the actual character. She has the boots, a witches hat, with these other clothes that look too high-fashion to be in the base Freljord region. I also don’t think the witch hat was a good idea not because it looks bad but it severely what skin aesthetics can be done with her. Bewitching is obviously going to happen, she would have made a good candy skin if it was not discontinued, and I guess faerie court but that’s all I can think of.
I kinda agree with the OC bit, I think all of the champions since Hwei (excluding the Skarner rework) have felt that way. I love the visuals of the spirit realm and finally getting some freljord lore, but yeah she does feel very shoehorned in for the sake of it
At least we'll be getting Ambessa soon, she won't feel out of place in the universe since she wasn't even designed for the game originally.
I don't know what's worse: that it's another (female) vastaya that looks like a regular human woman with animal ears, or that, after her teaser showed her in a mildly interesting cloak, she ended up looking like she's wearing a sexy Halloween costume. This is probably the worst character design for a new-ish champion I've seen, and that's really something in the Year of Our Lord Smolder 2024.
And they gave her the r34 proportions!
She's just an extremely heavily oversexualised character.
Short curly hair, glasses, freckles, soft bunny ears and a tail, and even her clothing plays further into the "cute nerdy girl" concept, with her shoulders and thighs not being covered. She is factually the most oversexualised character in League, especially because her story doesn't focus on her attractiveness at all, unlike with Elise for example
@@tamas9554 I dunno, there's still LoL Janna and Nidalee. They at least have an "excuse" of being ancient, though. Aurora is not only too sexualized, she doesn't look like she belongs in the world at all. In case of Nidalee, I can at least imagine someone dressing in animal skins and living in a jungle. The only place that Aurora looks like she belongs to is a Piltovan costume party, and even then just barely.
@@ninjatoriumnova2483 Nidalee is perfeclty fine for a "wild jungle huntress" character, her outfit actually makes sense, criticising her for it would be like saying why is Tarzan shirtless :DD
Janna is just severely outdated at this point, same with Syndra and many other character too. (LeBlanc)
I agree though, Aurora is a modern character and she has none of those explanations of being outdated or her look actually fitting the narrative. She really only would make sense in Piltover or some other new region.
Problem is her character doesn't give us worldbuilding about her tribe either, so its even less believable
@@tamas9554 Nidalee is wearing a fur bikini. It's another outfit that looks like a sexy cosplay. On the other hand, the armor that she's wearing on the picture for her flavor story is great.
"Looks like someone's OC"
Oh so we're ignoring all of August's abominations then? HEY VIEGO, LOOK WHO'S TIRED OF YOU
Man Viego could have looked so coooool......instead he's literally just a dude.
Ornn: What are you on?
Aurora: THE AUTISM SPECTRUM JACKASS!!!
Did not expect her to have this design, I really liked the cloak. Riot try not to give freljordian Champs exposed skin challenge: level impossible
I thought that after Ashe’s voice update they would have made themselves self aware of the lack of clothing in Freljord champs…
So you’re telling me Aurora, who’s not even an iceborn or completely covered in fur is running around in shorts and exposed shoulders? AND she mocks Lewis’s outfit?
I disagree with this opinion. She is Freljordian Vastaya. It seems her race is just really adapted to cold climate of Freljord, just like Ice Trolls for example.
She is completely covered in fur actually.
@@jeromevent4548 a tiny fur
Aurora is FROM the Freljord, but she is not IN the Freljord. Aurora is a traveler. When she's in the Freljord, she wears her cloak for warmth and coverage. When she's elsewhere in the world (and therefore doesn't need the cloak), she wears her normal clothes, including her hat.
It's not complicated.
@@jerryhook5906 She's traveling across Freljord though.
Volibear and Anivia didn't decide to take a summer vacation in Demacia from what I can tell.
personally i think Haestryr is the elk of bones, a demi-god of the freljord wich seems to have something to do with divination or death. the reason why he doesn't have many followers is explained by the legends of runeterra card: bone scryer wich has this description: Few scry the future as well as the shamans serving the Elk of Bones. Fewer still can stomach seeing the looming death of any who come seeking their foresight. Haestryr probably isn't him since we only know about the ellk from the bone scryer card and no other sources. but that's my theory.
I mean, technically every champ is someone's OC. Also, like it's seconds after this video uploaded, so this could show up as a topic he discusses, but since this was a pretty hot topic on her, I personally think Aurora being openly labelled as autistic is good and important actually.
Labels are important, and sure sometimes it might seem pandery and for show, but it also allows people to easily identify with the character. People may say 'good representarion shouldn't be so overt and shpuld be read between the lines' but those same people only do that so that they can ignore those things and bully the people who interpret those characters as that identity.
Aurora being labelled as autistic, played by an autistic voice actress, and written to be autistic is important so that the ignorant and hateful people who would want these things to be buried and quiey can't do so with her, and so that people who relate to her because of her autism can openly do so without anyone denying them that.
My problem is that they removed the actually interesting design of her being a vlosed off individual and just said make her hot instead. Like what about that conveys the character’s personality whatsoever? Not saying autistic people can’t be hot but come on. This is lazy design.
The fact that her voice lines make it so blatantly obvious that she's autistic makes the labeling all the more necessary, in my opinion.
I think you care waay too much about what other people think, who cares if some random person on the internet says a fictional character is autistic or not?
@@atsukana1704Oh don't get me wrong, I agree with you on the character design. Mine is more on her identiyy, since I saw a lot of discourse on thay specifically. Like design wise, shr could be so much better.
@@erlandochoa8278 Autistic people may care, and if you don't, great! Then there is no reason at all to mind the fact that she is, just ignore it, people who care will be glad, just let'em.
Have a safe flight nicky! Enjoy Twitchcon!
"Has the ability to see the spirit realm/see spirits"
One word: Yorick.
Aurora cloak sprite vs Aurora in game is a cyberpunk 2077 level lie 😭
One thing I genuinely love about Aurora, is that she's an autistic character who isn't stereotypical, like she has social competency! She's not emotionally stunted or child like! Also she's clearly an autistic character who isn't afraid to be pretty, it's nice to see an autistic character for once who ISN'T stereotypically ace, not that I dislike ace characters, just that I as an autistic person, almost never see, good, autistic characters who aren't ace. It just makes me a little sad that a large portion of us autistics, that y'know are straight and gay and bi and demi and pan and so on, are nearly never represented. But Aurora clearly has some sexuality as a person in their design, not sexualised, but that she wants to look good. It's a strange thing to notice, but it's one that was clear. And that she also just can speak to people, and speak her mind, while still having a hard time relating. I like that, and relate to it. Like just look at what she says to Voli, casually telling a Demigod to quit trying to get in her hand with extreme confidence, I love it!
A thing I've noticed about autistic characters. If the character is stated, in universe, to be autistic, then they're usually terrible representation. If a character is never stated to be autistic in the story (regardless of whether or not it's the intent), then they're usually great representation. There are exceptions of course, but I've noticed this a lot that they're generally a token autistic character when they're stated to be autistic in the story, because the writers just want the brownie points, while if they're not stated to be autistic in the story, then they want to let the audience figure that out for themselves, so they take more care to make them feel more real. Even if they say in dev blogs or interviews or whatever that they are autistic, they still need to push that in the story so that people who don't read those can figure it out.
The problem is that she is still kind of a Mary Sue, which makes her an extremely boring character. She has basically no real insecurities, grievances or other flaws. This is why I believe she is a self-insert from the writer.
Also for Riot wanting her to be a representation for autism, that is completely and utterly unclear from reading her bio for example. I've only learned that she was meant to be this after reading it, and it was quite surprising because her story never includes or hints at it in any way.
And this is not mentioning her backstory adding basically nothing to the world, while her design is also lore-breaking :/
While I understand what you mean, I feel that she's still rather stereotypic, just that instead of being the "Oblivious and unaware child autist", she's the "Hyperfixated autist", mainly from her in-game voicelines cuz they make it feel like all she cares about is Spirits and doesn nothing but talk about Spirits 24/7, there's also the "I hate social interaction" smidges of voicelines here and there that feel kinda forced imo, like they asked what was an introvert trait everyone knows and can relate to and slapped that into her character.
@@zetacomet5961 I mean some of the voice lines do feel forced, but you could say that for every champion. A lot of irelia's voice lines are just her constantly repeating something along the lines of "I miss my family" & "all noxians are rats". Some of samira's voice lines sound like a straight millenial trying a little too hard to use ballroom talk. Akali, kayn, zed, etc. all have a redundant amount of edgy lines. The forced "i hate social interaction" type of voice lines do feel like poor characterization for aurora, but it's kinda unfair to judge her for that when most champions have some kind of forced voice line to exaggerate their personality. Same could kinda be said about her hyperfixation being 90% of her personality and voice lines
@@Ren-jh3xb sure, but it’s not so much that “edgyness/exaggeration” is bad, but “how far can you push edge and exaggeration without falling in harmful stereotypes”, all characters you listed range from cool badass rouge to edgelord and their edge is an extension of their character, something you’d expect from them without putting their archetype under a bad light.
Also just because a defect is shared among other characters doesn’t mean that it’s excusable, half of the freljord champs also don’t wear cold-appropriate clothing but you’re not gonna use that to excuse Aurora's clothing.
I'm not an artist but it makes me happy that the amount of fan arts are getting back in numbers now. You guys are part of this series as much as the lore and Nicky's gameplay
What I like about Aurora is that I think in the lore Ornn doesn’t like creating stuff with magic because he thinks magic erodes his things.
And then he meets Aurora, and makes her wand and witch hat.
it may be he doesnt mind magic users and making gear that harnesses that magic but he does mind when magic users apply magic to his perfectly fine creations that werent made with magic in mind
Ornn likes using magic, just doesn't like to use it as a shortcut to make a tool easily. He wants it to be an actual ingredient
"I don't really like that (furry) stuff." Said the guy who made a big tiddy snake lady his channel mascot
Scaly =/= furry
@@Theo-ev6yu Eh, Scalies are a subsection of furries.
Correct it aint furry, its scaly
@@Theo-ev6yu Eh, scalies are a sub section of furries.
@@Theo-ev6yu Eh, scalies are a subsection of furries.
As someone who came to like bunny girls after being a Viera in FFXIV for more than 7 years, i do feel there's something wrong with Aurora.
I kinda agree with you when you say about Rakan and Xayah.I alway feel weird that a champion base on a very hyper active animal like rabbit is austistic and shy????
I really love the idea of a bunny with glasses and holding a magic wand in her mouth
I feel like as a counterpoint: beauty has nothing to do with personality it is just how you were born, so I dont know why it should have something to do with powers or story. I know riot has a buch of sexualized characters, perhaps too much, but I also dont agree that characters have to be attractive if it fits in her lore or abilities like evelyn. I mean she can just be born pretty and thats she doesnt have to become a seductress or a narcisist
It's true that beauty doesn't have to say anything about the character, but their presentation does. She could be beautiful and wear clothes that prioritize her comfort or her being a traveler, so she wouldn't be emphasizing her body.
But she wears a short dress that shows her shoulders and thighs with a fur collar and high boots. And the dress emphasizes her figure, so she is showing off to an extent.
It's not about the beauty, is about what you decide to emphasize in the design.
@@Broza-hp7ue maybe she is shy and prefers people look at her breasts rather than at her face
Like velma from scooby
But we’re not talking about real people, we’re talking about fictional characters. They do tend to fit personalities and body types together for a reason, it’s more coherent and recognizable
@@Notllamalord so another word for cliche? Games could use and ugly narcisist that loves herself and tries to seduce everyone and some shy bimbos
Cloack has to be one of earlier versions of design but then artist just got hypnotised by Wizzard's hat and you can't realisticly combine those , so cloak had to go bye bye.
welkom in amsterdam nicky. ik hoop dat jij het leuk gaat hebben hier!
The Haestryr problem's been addressed in the past from LoR's Kindred and other death gods popping out, trivializing their uniqueness as "Death, straight up" and instead fell back to the faith-powered existence for spirits we've come to know now like Janna's. Not to say it's not executed well, cause I do personally like how their personalities are portrayed, but more so there's really no need for them to exist in the first place and really watered down the lore just to "make them feel belonging to Runeterra" though more-so it's to provide wiggle-room for lore writers, that is if there's any still left.
Still, the community ate up the "more death gods" statement and that brought us here to the world of twisting pre-existing constants for the sake of novelty; long gone is the era of fitting characters in Runeterra itself and no doubt Riot would do it again for future champs.
LoR had issues with this because they needed creature cards that fit with the champions, both gameplay wise and thematically. That's why they created other personnifications of death to fit with Kindred, or other anti-magic golems to fit with Galio. I feel like they should have been non canon.
I still believe zeri feels more like an oc, specially after arcane. But this is a close second.
Yeah, Zeri feels like a character that would exist after a big timeskip where the fashion and enviornment is made more similar to the modern era. Aurora is cute, I have a bias for the hybrid animal Vastaya like Xayah and Rakan.
I agree but it still feels like Zeri could definitely exist in League and was designed for league.
Aurora feels like she designed as a mobile game gatcha character first and then a league character second
Seraphine's also kinda in that same boat, but her LoR depiction makes it worth IMO.
i think watching the chat in this video while nickyboi talks about champion designs sums up everything you need to know about the deep seeded toxicity of league players.
I love the idea of her just having a paolumu like neck bag
I agree with the whole OC thing, but Nicky is going to get set on fire by the Aurora community.
I don't really see what you mean by OC for it because I feel you could be that way about any new champion in league who wasn't teased before in lore (maybe even if they are or not). I sorta see being worried about a character being made from the thought of having a bunny mage in runeterra but I feel thats apart of just any design, like a concept and where it could or would fit in the pre-existing universe. The take with being friends with every Demi-god is felt and if she ends up being a friend to them all, I dont think I personally would enjoy that but with Ornn i think its an interesting decision that could add more depth to someone like Ornn who is kinda just the grumpy old shut in (for good reasons ofc). Honestly she will probably be like Seraphine on release and hopefully grow/show she is a character of runeterra but i think almost any new champion, not teased in lore, may come off as OC like because we never knew of them before so they seem placed in (which tbh they are but every champion is, Ksante's feels that way for me)
She’s got that Zyra walk
I have not even watched the video but the title really summed up the feeling I could not put my finger upon.
9:31 In defense of that, I used to work at a grocery store and I'd usually wear a skirt there, and whenever I had to do work inside the fridges, as long as I my torso and arms were decently covered, I didn't really feel much cold so I think it's plausible that a bunny girl who's lived her whole life in the cold would not be bothered by a little bit of her thighs and shoulders being exposed.
Counter argument, there's no wind chill in a freezer.
@@acatwithwiskers9273 Valid tbh hehe
I probably should've clarified that it's like 30°C outside, so my point was that if I who's used to warm weather could wear a skirt in the cold and be fine, someone who's lived in extreme cold all their life would be fine exposing a little bit of their body, not to mention that it's not like she dresses like that all the time. She has her cloak :p
in the legend of runeterra card game, arhi have a follower that is just a bunny person with branch horns. also we have seen bunny looking yordles like in the pentakill video, so they could have go for a more cute / small build too
Her lore is literally just Yorick's but for a sexy magical girl. Sees and interacts with otherworldly entities, everyone around them thinks they're weird, they do their best to use this gift to help out said entities. Where the sexy magical girl twist comes in is the fact that "x" family member believes and supports her, and her call to action is to help a big mystical being instead of getting their home obliterated.
Yorick doesn't help out his ghouls, he uses them to try and kill Viego/Thresh, and nobody thinks he's weird since everybody is dead save for him.
@@Oscar97o Thats true after the ruination but before the sentinels event. In his early days he spoke to the dead and helped them move onto the afterlife. Everyone thought he was crazy and he was shunned by all.
In terms of her design, personality, mannerisms... I think you're kinda just projecting what you think she should be like rather than really looking at who she is. You say she's shy and quiet, but I never got that from her. She has very specific interests and will talk with you about them all day if you let her. Even Ornn noted that, saying she was inquisitive but not annoying. That all being said, I think this perceived "reserved" nature you've tried to place on her and expected to reflect in her clothing.. isn't a thing. Her being cute/sexy doesn't take away from her character, if you ask me. This isn't a Kai'sa situation. As for her lack of bunny mannerisms... I mean, what did you expect? Constant, agile hopping around? She doesn't like rambunctious, loud people, why would she want to be jumping around all the time? It makes sense that she'd be walking around calmly like 99% of the time. The only time she hops is to make a quick escape into the spirit world, otherwise she's chillin.
this is 1000000% another kai’sa situation and mega detracts from her character
hot sexy genshin anime girl number 2518 wow amazing i def care about this champ and her character yep mhm
@inmanis2924 So why can't she be pretty? What's so wrong with this character being pretty? What's unrealistic about that aspect of her?
@@Memyx sure just make every character conventionally hot and cute in the most uninspired way possible. why not? who needs diversity in character designs? why should anything make sense?
enjoy thicc uwu cute anime girl no.7658... clearly there wasn't enough r34 material in the game.....
@@authenticbaguette6673 I do get the need for more diversity, but nobody has given me an actual answer as to how her being conventionally hot actually takes away from her character, so... just sounds like y'all're mad for the sake of being mad.
@@Memyx The burden of proof is on you. Why does she need to be hot? What does it serve beyond distracting from other elements of her character?
The combination of her being "autistic and shy uwu" but also being "coincedentally" hot and thicc fills me with immense ickiness. I hate it to my very bone marrow.
Im getting tired of the new releases. They dont even count to the Runeterra universe for me, I just think of them as the in game additions and thats it
13:23 they did not look at your video about your Redsign of Cassiopia, or comments on Eveelyn.
Like you love it when it fits and adds to the character, whether or not your into it yourself(or at all).
I really thought her splash art was really good fanart of Rei from Paladins at first
Yeah autism is a very modern word, but it's been around a long time. Modern science only identified it as a unique thing a few decades ago. The first person to be officially diagnosed is still alive and well.
In the old days they used to call autistic people various forms of mental disorders, or in more superstitions times things such as "possessed", "spirit touched", and "changeling". It uh, it did not usually end well for them.
First they promised us a dragon, and we got a cat with wings
Then they promised us a "bunny mage", and we got a quirky girl with some rabbit feature
The pause feature is already in the game it’s used in custom games it’s just a bug on the PBE that is accidentally allowing it in normal games
Fun fact about the pause: It was already in game for a long time and it just works in custom games, original purpose of pause is to be used in esport games
I LOVE the little goobers ! Pray and the others are WAY too cute ! They appear and disepear like dust particles and look so squishy !
She feels like an Ionian character more than a Freljordian one. Like, don't get me wrong, she's got some decent lore, a pretty unique kit (minus Twitch's expunge) and stuff...
But being in a snowy environment, like a normal winter hair, she should be a shade of white, and if they're pushing her to be an introverted autistic character, she should be a little more...you know, dressed like one. Long sleeves, baggy clothes (like Vex) and a hood. Yet I do like her hat that Orrn gave her.
I agree with most of Nicky's points.
Not going to play her much though. I'd rather play a bat character than a bunny one
Aurora gives me "would wear a binder" energy
When I first saw her, I said out loud to myself "I can't even begin to pretend to care about this character."
Hipster bunny isn't your style?
wow ghostcitynight ur so edgy
@@ennasy7997 How is it edgy to not like something, lol
What does that even mean
If you don't care that much, why are you even here? Why are you giving your opinion? Why are you wasting time on something you don't care?
i love making league of legends ocs. the runeterra us a great setting for that
i love how more spirits follow her out of base as the game goes on
now we need a warlock with a black cat theme
I don’t like that she first looked like a very different champion than what we already have and now she’s just generic sexy girl n°58 but with bunny ears … also looks a lot like Mikaela Reid from Dead by Daylight (most commercial and skin selling survivor character)
Head Canon : she forced a bunny character for the Chinese new year of the bunny, it's this year.
Aurora was able to transport to the spirit realm even without the wand, that's how she transported Haestyr there.
I think her story is more or less a convenient self-insert which actually contributes very little to the story. We don't get to know anything about her tribe, how do they survive in the Freljord, what is their culture like, when and why did they come here, whats their technology level, etc.
Like, this is important because Aurora's clothing (especially glasses), suggests that they are quite an advanced tribe despite living in the harshest natural region of Runeterra, yet we know nothing.
How did Aurora even learn to use her magic for example? Thats also unanswered, despite LoL's story being clear that you can't just teach yourself magic, it doesn't work like that. (Lux)
How can she survive outside of her village's safety, out in the cold, where plant life is basically absent and the only creatures she could hunt won't give up easily?
And this isn't even the self-insert part, that happens with the Ornn stuff. Like, of course she just stumbles upon a dying and mad old spirit-god, who of course doesn't end up killing her like it did many others, and of course she finds Udyr and later Ornn's residence. After all of this, of course Ornn realises she is entirely different from everyone he's ever met and welcomes her in like a father figure.
But Aurora is no simple innocent character either, she is charismatic, wise and seems extremely capable in all regards, despite her supposedly having no actual way to come into possession of the knowledge she has.
She feels like if someone inserted their OC into the story, hence why her meeting with Udyr and Ornn feels so convenient. She needs these for her story to work, and unlike Nami for example, she easily finds the people important for her objective. And this is not even counting what the story says about her current goal, because thats somewhat unclear as well.
She kinda is like a Mary Sue, though this isn't suprising from the writer who also created Milio :D
you made the best points about her. when i read the comic and played the interactive novel in the league client i was SOOOOOOO baffled by how conveniently she barged in on Ornn's life
such a Mary Sue smh, and the problem with this story design is compared to an incomplete story like Nami's is that there is no more room for more lore and new short stories for Aurora? she seems like a one-and-done character whose character arc ended the moment it began
@@thechocowizard Basically. We know that in order to heal Hestrelk, she would somehow have to make the people of the Freljord believe in him again.
But thats not what her story says, because it follows as this:
"Believing these demigods hold the key to Hestrelk’s recovery, Aurora has left Hearth-Home and now traverses through the material and spirit realms of her frozen homeland in unwavering pursuit of their knowledge."
So, does this mean she will search for other spirit-gods too? Will she ask them questions as well? What will happen after that? I mean if Ornn couldn't do anything to help them, why would the others?
Its also such a convenient way of her getting to know about all of this, like these solutions are just offered up on a silver platter.
The writer of Aurora's story actually also wrote Milio. In his background, he literally became the master of the fire axiom, basically the rule which ixtaly people use to manipulate fire, because he "studied nature himself".
So not only did he master a discipline others would fail to do so WITH a master training them for years, but also discovered an ENTIRELY new way of using fire.
Like, this is fanfiction levels, I'm not even sorry for saying that :DD
3:34 is it, well since it's a small dash not realy but with the addition of the Invisability I feel it might be, as certain assasins need to target something to damage their abilities in close range, so her just doing this is pretty pushy, I'd make a change:
Upon Aroura becoming invisible she will slowly turn into camoflauge the longer she stays hidden, increasing the range of it overtime.
This should be where while she can access the realm she can't stay in there for as long as she wants without consequences, this makes it to where she has to make use of the actually little time she has, like a 0.5 secs to avoid being seen or the camoflauge will quickly give her away, for agression it has the enemy be rewarded for keeping track of you.
I have absolutely unreasonable bias against her. I just feel like her final design and lore just ended up so disappointing, she doesn't seem special, her outfit seems generic and is way too flashy for her personality, her horned spirit friend isn't even anywhere around her in game? It just feels like everything about her innitial reveal in the minigame just doesn't translate to anything else and that sucks.
20:36 this little tangent perfectly describes how I felt about this character. I just wish at the very least the animations helped with her character. Sure make her hot with the thighs or whatever but at least make her animations feel nerdy or shy. Hop a little (you mentioned this a little after that timestamp too) or anything that makes her feel like her own character. The lack of those animations make the actual bunny ones, like when she hops in her portals, feel kinda off or 'cartoony' ig
I cant get over that she looks just like a character straight out of Genshin Impact
The pause feature has been a thing for years, but only in customs
From what I could tell a lot of her attack lines are "personal space please" I dont think she's meant to be shy i think its the autistic trait of "i dont like being near people"
Which kinda works with her abilities- her big blast knocking her away and going invisible so people cant find/be close to you. Ig her ult could be odd if that were the case since she's literally locking herself and others into a space but eh
There were already vastayas mentioned in the freljord before from Sejuani's story
12:52 when it was about funny little underling of villian, instead of human lossing control of it's monster.
I found the Twitter discourse around her outfit funny since it's been well established that practical clothing is outlawed in Freljord. Body type and other criticism of her design is totally valid but I think the outfit should have been expected lol.
I think there's an interesting conversation to be had about what "fits" as a League of Legends character, because I feel like that's always changing. To me, every champion is very self contained. They all have their own quirks, rivalries, themes, and those don't always fit into the greater narrative.
I think part of that is Riot's bad habit of never progressing anyone's story, always moving onto the next champ rather than fleshing out pre-existing ones, but that's been an issue since way before the "pretty people" era of champions that we are currently in, so when I see one of those out of place OC-ish champs (like Aurora, Gwen, or Sett), it doesn't necessarily feel like a betrayal of design to me, they almost feel like individual stories with their own pros and cons.
Idk where I stand on it exactly, because when we do get cool interweaving narrative stuff like Arcane, and Ruined King, it's amazing and I want more of it, but at the same time League of Legends was born from a hodgepodge of random ideas and themes for champions. Like, I can't imagine a conversation between Kled and Akali, but both a very well designed characters who speak to a specific thematic and demographic, and it's awesome they can be in the same game.
So even if a champ like Aurora isn't exactly for me and a lot of the people I know, idk if I feel comfortable saying she doesn't fit as an official champion, even if I agree with almost all your other points.
All that said, Aurora's not being tied around her head is absolute cowardice on Riot's end. 0/10 dogwater champion. I'll be waiting for her VGU.
One of the spirits kinda looks like
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the one who takes the godfather tree tier a lot
Kitrint?
I really like how they did like the disassociation of what autism people do in a interesting way of like oh she can see spirits. I thought it was a good representation that way to add more to here and here autism
This is awesome sauce
How dare you assume i wouldn’t wear a cloak like that at home!
Aurora is just some Viera who attuned into the wrong Aetheryte and now is stuck in League.
Is that Zero bowing down with Hell train shoes, a neo-Kumi lower and phantom-phoenix cloak (maybe?) on your profile pic.
@@JinRupeeland I will say yes with how frightfully spot on you are on describing my image. The coat is wrong l, it was from that detective set I forgot the name.
I see the Chase hasn't left you.
"This pause feature cannot make it to live servers" wait until he finds out its been on the live servers for a while now (only in custom games)
a freljord champ i came up with, i called Helga, the mountain rescuer, weapon was a ballista, all abilities healed, 4/5 had bonus effect. body big like illaoi,+bird vastaya to tie to rakan an xayah
Hmmm... I feel like you can do a lot of things the design already does, while also making her fit into the setting. It just takes a bit more thinking on how to get there.
Also, I do think you can make any character's story sound like someone's oc.
Thank the lords she ain't a Hearthblood cause if she was then we would have another riot in the lore department
Idk but if there’s one thing I took from this video, it’s that I could get behind Battle Fish Fizz
I think the change to the splash art was to make her more "Fluffy" rather than more thicc, hard to dance around that line tho, so its easy to missrepresent it.
12:45 you know I too would've wished with the Briar scenario that the champion designer would've just been human in autheticity and just said "I love big thighs", though there was a valid reason like how briar could only use her legs so ofcourse they're going to be stronger, however they missed the memo of having her be a locked up torutured individual as she's treated as a tool, personality it's optimism or it should be but in design that isn't well shown.
Anyway Auora could have the thigh thing actually make sense with that reason, she hops like a bunny with stronger legs, so it does give a well enough excuse for her to have big thighs.
Not gonna lie, the first time I saw her splash, it reminded me of all those generic "nerdy redhaired shy girls" that are everywhere in the prawn tanks of the 'hub. I still can't look at that emote version of her face.