Borussia Dortmund's season makes zero sense...
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Borussia Dortmund are having a strange season. In a year where they looked weaker domestically than the last season, they have managed to make the Champions League final. It wasn’t all a fluke either, as they had to go through the likes of Atletico Madrid and PSG - not to mention their group wasn’t easy either. But in the Bundesliga, they are completely deserving of their 5th placed finish, as they have had difficulty beating the teams above them, and drop points too often against teams lower in the table.
It’s hard to make a clear judgement on Edin Terzic’s time at Dortmund: fumbling the league last season, begin to struggle in the league in the next season, but make a Champions League final?
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European excellence: 06:46
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Huge Dortmund fan here since 2009. Year in year out we, as a true BVB fan are immune to disappointments. It’s been a ritual but we stayed strong and stayed loyal to the club. Tears of pain and disappointments have always been part of supporting this beautiful club. I’ve cried on ucl final lost 2013, 2021 dfb pokal win and the bottle up last season against Mainz. It’s never easy supporting Dortmund. And rn we are in the ucl final. Being in the semis was alrdy a huge achievement and gg into final is almost surreal. One last dance for Marco. Let’s go, HEJA BVB💛🖤
🎉🎉 agreed
Heja BVB
Yeah man, fellow Dortmund fan here. Even during the Klopp day's we had a few inconsistencies but with Rose and Terzic it's really been a roller coaster.
@@FIGBVB yea bro. After Klopp it has been one hell of a ride. We are still on that same ride tbh😅
@@hrbf And that ride looks like it is going towards a cliff edge man
We suffer through the tough losses to make the wins that much sweeter, I was too young to remember Dortmund winning the league in 2012 so last season was really tough. Hopefully they can win this one for Reus and the fans 💪
Dortmund winning the final would become one of my greatest sports memories but I don't think they have as much poise and winning mentality as madrid to see off this final.
Anything can happen. There are a lot of similarities between this final and Istanbul. Miracle in Wembley maybe?
@@akwilson1676what are the similarities?
Nah man real winning is more important got to make those UCL's symmetrical. And match fede's kit number
@@jordanford9320how is the big team winningg it more important than the underdog?
@@Master_TheplannerWell it's a Ancelotti led team that has already won the champions league once, joined by a young attacking midfielder, against a team that hasn't won the champions league since forever.
I have to give Terzic applause for being able to use dark magic in the UCL but currently, as a manager, he is not him
Whatever happens, I will be forever grateful to Terzic for the cup win 2021 and our ucl run this season, irrespective of whether we win it or not. The guy's a cult hero and a legend
Only kind of, yes he won the DFB Pokal, but that was because of prime sancho and haaland. They literally carried. Was really happy to see Reus win a trophy. And the UCL run is very impressive but again, it's our players who have been scrapping in the UCL. Whenever our backs have been against the wall, Bundesliga 22-23 season before November, after the 1st 2 games of CL group stages etc., the team has suddenly started playing well. I think Terzic really needs the players to have extreme work rate every game. But he can't seem to get them on his side unless there is a do or die situation. But as a tactician he is literally shit. There is no two ways about it. Tactics are supposed make the team work smarter not harder, without them the team runs like headless chickens but can't get any results. I think terzic can be a good assistant coach who motivates players but we need a better tactician
Terzic is the reason Reus is leaving Dortmund after a decade, are you sure he's a cult hero/legend?
@@Gioosebif he wins CL, he most definitely is no matter what other things he may have caused
Now imagine if he had won the League last season.
Honestly as a Dortmund this season has been so frustrating, domestically the football has been terrible to watch but the ok European nights it’s like a whole different team is playing. If I’m being honest, I love Terzic and I want it to succeed but I just can’t see the team progressing under him especially out attacking talents like moukoko and JBG
Ur literally describing Liverpool in the Stevie G era
Perfect definition of Jekyll and Hyde 😭
Maybe I'm being harsh but this reminds me of Tottenham in the UCL final in 2019. Their run was great too, they beat Man City and a great Ajax team too, but struggled domestically and nobody payed attention to it due to the European success. It caught up with them the next season though and they've never been the same since really. I worry it's going to be the same for Dortmund
Difference is Tottenham are losers, Dortmund tries to at least be winners
I feel bad for Spurs because 2 seasons prior to that UCL final they seemed in prime position to make a title challenge or at least win some trophies. 16/17 they got 86 points in the league, were unbeaten at home and had an incredible starting 11. Just lacked squad depth. But from this position they bought no players for two transfer windows in a row, Walker left and crucially they lost Dembele too. Rose, Alli, Vertongen, Alderweireld were all declining, and they bought in minimal reinforcements. Spurs were in trouble by the time the CL final :( But long term it might've been for the best because they've now built their stadium
That final was ruined because Poch played politics after Harry Kane miraculously healed from his injury in time for the final after Lucas Mora scored a hat trick in Amsterdam.
Hope to god this don’t happen e bvb
Speaking as a lifelong Dortmund fan (since the 80’s) …
Yeah…I got nothing 😂 This club, man! We take the saying, “whatever doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger” waaaaay too seriously 😅
As far as Edin Terzic is concerned, I really like the guy. But I think we need a more experienced head coach if we want consistency in the league. If he stays, I can see a similar situation next season. We’ll have a good cup run in the Pokal or UCL but we’ll be stinking out the Bundesliga 😢
We also have A LOT of work to do in the transfer window this summer, and I’m not sure we have the funds to do it. Scary times.
But, as always…Heja BVB 🖤💛
did y'all just forget that he almost won ya the league last season?
@@ZafeirZ key word there…”almost”
@@chrisfraser5088 sure but
y'all were just unlucky that's all
@@ZafeirZ I hear what you’re saying. But that sentiment is usually in reference to the last day, drawing 2-2 to Mainz. There were many other games throughout the season where he made odd decisions or poor substitutions and we dropped points we shouldn’t have. Being 2-0 up in the 87th at home to Bremen, and end up losing 2-3. Or drawing 3-3 to Stuttgart (before they were good) when they had a player sent off in the first half! He gets tactically outdone by other managers too often imo. Another example would be losing 4-2 away to Gladbach. We had NO control in that game whatsoever and he simply couldn’t fix it. It just happens too often. Like I said, I like him, and I wish it could work out, but I just don’t see it happening 🤷♂️
@@chrisfraser5088 alright
y'all should emergency loan alexander sørloth for that ucl final😂
if ya know what he did today in 17 minutes
I started following club football consciously after the 2012 EURO. I was rooting for the germans, I loved how Götze and Reus played together. I can easily say that I started watching football because of Reus, this is his big chance and deserves the CL title. echte liebe.
We've seen plenty of examples of this. Chelsea in 2012 and 2021, Tottenham in 2019 and now Drortmund here. A common theme with those teams was that despite whatever they did in the CL, they didn't address the issues present the season long and then those ran into the following season and they had very poor domestic seasons and no CL success to compensate. Of course if a manager wins the CL, can't really sack them, but it is a double-edged sword. Having said that, waiting to see the outcome of a final before deciding whether you stick with a manager or sack them is not the way. You should look at the season and see if progress has been made and whether you feel confident with that guy going forward.
Its not always like that doe, Liverpool in 2018 went on to win the UCL the following season after their famous run
@@alej.5704 But the man in charge is Klopp. He's levels above Terzic, with all due respect.
Dude, Terzic won't be fired. We aren't that cruel!
If Terzic doesn’t drastically increase domestic form by winter next season and we don’t win CL, then he’s gone
Your video sounds like "Gen Z discovers football". Football was very much like that until the very recent rise of super-clubs: you had teams that underperformed in the league but dedicated themselves entirely to European competitions. Real Madrid in the late 1990s-early 2000s, AC Milan and Liverpool in the 2000s being the typical examples.
I was wondering when you'd post this video. Thanks Adrian for another banger. :)
5:38 BVB did beat Bayern at the Allianz in 2017 in the DFB-Pokal semifinal (I know not Bundesliga)
This is nothing new😂 Real Madrid was mid table i believe when they won their 9th UCL
In 97/98 their league performance was so bad that they fired Heynckes after the season. Although they've won the UCL!
Dortmund please win this final🫡
Madrid deserves it
@saifobaid6849 yes, but Dortmund more
@@saifobaid6849Madrid didn't even deserve to go past Leipzig lmaooo what are you talking about
@@namek2019 stop crying 🤣🤣🤣
Madrid doing good this season
Bottlemund is your last hope 🤣🤣🤣
@@namek2019yes Barcelona deserves it..
If we recalled back to the European Cup periods, the worst teams winning the Champions League is nothing new. In 1975, Bayern Munich and Leeds United had a tumultuous season in their respective domestic football, only finishing mid-table (10th and 9th, respectively). In 1982, Aston Villa won the European Cup, despite finishing 11th in English 1st Division, at that time. Even Real Madrid did this multiple times; when the club won Champions League back in 2000, they were 5th in La Liga.
Also, even though it's not related to the Champions League, inter Milan winning the UEFA Cup in 1993/94 was also a great achievement, considering their disappointing domestic campaign. They finished 13th in Serie A, but at that time, the league still has 18 teams, and Inter Milan only narrowly avoided a relegation by only 1 point ahead of Piacenza.
In 98, Heynckes even got fired for the weak performance in La Liga. Although they won the UCL.
@@yannick245 A year before, Fabio Capello was sacked, despite winning the La Liga. He repeated this misery in 2007, when the club still had the likes of Raul, Beckham, Higuain, Van Nistelrooy, etc.
@@ezraezra2928 But they dropped out in the round-of-16 for eight seasons at the UCL in a row, during that era. Bernd Schuster did also win La Liga.
@@yannick245 Real Madrid crashed out in the Round of 16 between 2005 and 2010. They also did this twice in a row after that 3-peat era in 2019 and 2020.
@@ezraezra2928 F**k! My whole answer got lost! I'll it try again...
Okay, so it was only five seasons. But during the era of the s.c. "Los Galácticos" (00/01-06) they were rather unsuccessful. Given that it was an assembly of the world's top stars. Only winning the UCL once in 2002. With Zidane's iconic goal. Plus La Liga in 2001.
After the arrival of Ronaldo in 2002, they only managed to win La Liga once again. Their performance at the UCL was so poor that they were not being handled as potential title contesters for quite some time.
Florentino Pérez second time at Real was a lot more successful!
I grew up as a kid with Real winning the UCL in 98, 00 and 02. After a decades long drought! With their last title in 66.
My father married again and I have a half brother. He also grew up with Real winning one title after another (14,16-18).
It's "funny" that inbetween Real didn't really played a role when it comes to the European top flight!
It's not weird at all, when playing better teams as a underdog u play better not the same pressure
I guess Dortmund fall under pressure (cough cough... Mainz match 2023)
Great analysis. From a BVB fan.
As a veteran Bundesliga fan, watching every weekend, multiple games a week, for... almost 20 years now 😨🧓 it really really makes absolutely no sense they are in the final😆
Imo, Dortmund has failed because of the following:
1) Terzic lacks tactical identity. In the last 2 seasons, we have played a 3 back, tried target men as strikers, and also inverted wingers as strikers. There have been times we have tried to play possession football and also times where we have played counter-attacking football.
2) Terzic cannot develop young players. Under his tenure, he has been a primary cause for halting moukoko's development. He bought Fullkrug this summer which made moukoko a 3rd choice striker. Moukoko, even with such sporadic minutes has a goal every 100 min in the Bundesliga, I believe. Bynoe gittens has great dribbling ability, especially for somebody so tall. Good finsihing too. But those areas haven't seen much improvment, under Terzic. Karim Adeyemi, right now is playing well but is extremely inconsistent. Yes, he has attitude problems but as a manager you need to handle those things. Gio Reyna, he was very injury prone but in great form when he came on as a sub. Terzic was far too slow to make him a starter and now he left.
3) Poor recruitment. In the last few years Dortmund has lost a bit of it's philosophy. We now sign mid-table players to try and superglue a wound. Nmecha is exhibit A. Far too expensive for a player who wasn't seen as having outstanding potential. Exhibit B, Fulkrug, far too hasty of a signing, could have done with Moukoko. Exhibit C, Ozcan, not a bad backup for Can, but Can is not a good player. We needed to replace him with an actual DM.
4) Fallout of Terzic with the experienced players. It's been reported that there have been tensions between Reus and Terzic, Sule and Terzic, and Hummels and Terzic.
These are just some of the things I have observed as a Dortmund Fan, but this was also present in the brief Rose era, and in the Faivre era too
I was going to leave a similar comment.
Cutting Reyna's minutes, and signing Modeste rather than starting Malen, and using Moukoko as a backup last season stunted their development.
@@mainchannel1566 Yeah forgot to mention modeste too, good point
you didn’t mention that they sold Haaland in the summer 22 and Bellingham in the summer 23 - particularly when looking at their goals scored domestically. Replacing 2 players at this skill level would be a challenge for any club
And Sancho in 21.
We're used to losing our best players to the best teams in Europe. But we're also used to "grew" new talents, to become world-class. This isn't happening by now...
Its so weird that for the first time in a long time we dont have 1 or 2 superstars in the team that are sure to leave after the season, yet we’re in the CL finals.
Great coverage as always ❤
the CL Final might be the worst thing happening to Borussia Dortmund long term
Cause it means Terzic will stay in the Job 20+ Points behind Leverkusen is a Disaster!!!
He should have been sacked on Christmas. Only the CL and UEFA awarding a 5th UCL spot saved him
Solid analysis 👏🏽
I really dislike statements like this. It's not a miracle. It's professional sport. It's football. It's that simple.
I've read many biographies from team sports like football and individual sports like tennis, one thing for sure is you can never count anything out.
Dortmund going to the Champions League final did not surprise me (particularly once I saw that half of the draw). I've watched too many matches and football competitions to be surprised nowadays from epic comebacks, to Porto & Greece in 2004 European competitions, Montpellier in 2012 and Leicester City winning the premier league. Wigan won the FA Cup against Man City and then got relegated the same season. Sevilla won the Europa League last season having had a league season to forget. These things happen many times.
And about inconsistency. I hear people say this a lot. But it's very simple. Most teams are inconsistent. Only a handful of teams in the league are really consistent, hence they're at the top. Is any team in any league outside top 2 or 3 really consistent? It's impossible for majority of the teams to be very consistent because of the league format.
There is a different feeling between the Champions league and league for Dortmund. In the majority of games in the league they're favourites to win. In the majority of the games in the Champions league they're not favourites. Plus, the Champions league is not a guarantee every season. It's a spectacle. The elite competition. So you're more likely to always be up for it then not. A dream for many players and teams. Sport is about the performance on the night. Regardless of form, you can win on any given matchday. Dortmund has managed to do it... consistently this season. I wish Dortmund well in the final.
Apart from the victory of Leverkusen, the fact that Bundesliga teams have beaten Dortmund, but Dortmund has been great in Europe, it just proves that the Bundesliga is not actually a farmer's league
Copenhagen was never really called the easier draw often from the RO16, PSV was the scapegoat narrative in that round for whatever reason. In any case I’m happy BVB are in the final and we’ll go down swinging💛🖤
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Hello, last two st Pauli reports, last game of the season and we are playing for the championship, already promoted to Bundesliga, but we could come up with our first professional title under our arm. Exciting
I think the reason why dortmund is doing really well in the ucl is because of their teamplay. Everytime in that semifinal, each and everyone of them where putting their body on the line. The wingers adyemi and sancho actually compliment each other
Final at Wembley going to be amazing
Real Madrid are the favorite for the tie but i think luck favour the Dortmund
Luck always favor Mardid... unfortunately Madrid will win this one (I lovr Madrid, but want Dortmund to have this one).
Being a bvb fan is such a rollercoaster ride
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First off about the Mainz Game. Looking at the xP table, Mainz is actually 6th or 7th in it and is particularly good at home. Looking at the Bundesliga table tells you its an easy match but it really isn't. The actual problem isn't their points per game against the weaker teams. The issue is that they got 5 out of 24 points against the other champions league sides. Espeically against Leipzig and Stuttgart, where they are not the underdogs, Dortmund had a hard time. It might be related to pressure.
That said, the biggest issue the club is facing is financial in nature. Both their top wage earners aren't even regular starters for them. In general, the wage structure is awful. There's so many average players on 5-7 million € a year. Then there's the issue with the club not having money for transfers even tho the wage to earnings ratio is about 60%. Then there is the clubs refusal to spend over 30 million on players that could progress the club. As a result, players have to develop or they are simply not good enough for the clubs ambitions (winning the bundesliga & regular progresion to the Champions league business end).
Great addition.
I'd also like to point out that the season isn't really that awful. If they win the last game at home against the dead-last team of Darmstadt they'll end up with 63 points, only eight points fewer than last season, in which they had a certain potential Ballon d'Or winning english player worth more than a hundred million in their squad. There have been seasons in which a team could win the title with that amount of points and only once did it lead to a fifth place since the three-point-rule was implemented. In a normal season they would have likely finished in second or at least third place, not that terrible at all.
It's just that they are sharing a league with one of the best teams of all time, Bayer Leverkusen, plus one of the biggest clubs in all of sports, Bayern Munich, which payed hundreds of millions in transfers before the season - including a certain potential Ballon d'Or winning english player worth more than a hundred million - and reached the semi-final of the Champions League. Also a Stuttgart with a freak season and Leipzig, which almost beat Real Madrid, if it wasn't for questionable decisions by the referees.
In other words: The Bundesliga might be the best league in the world this season and Dortmund only struggled against the absolute beasts within this monster league. Maybe Dortmund isn't that bad, maybe it's just that the rest of the league is really, really good.
At least I think the quality of the Bundesliga is a good signal to what's to come for the German national team this summer. But maybe I'm just too much of an optimist.
@@felixwinkler6450this just means that BvB has to seriously up their game to still be competitive. If Leverkusen and Stuttgart somehow continue this form into next season, its gonna be bad news for bvb
@@applepeel1662 Well, it actually kind of means the opposite.
Leverkusen will lose some of their players, not again score almost twenty times after the 90th minute and have way fewer points next season. Stuttgart will not have another record setting season (best season in club history, a points total that would have gotten them the title in 90% of all previous seasons since the 3-point-rule was implemented) and Leipzig was only barely better. If Dortmund repeats the season next year, in all likelyhood they will finish higher just because the other teams will not repeat a crazy season like this.
But yes, of course being better would be... better.
They've already worked on some problems, they will likely not repeat their Champions League run and will be able to focus on the Bundesliga and the squad will mostly be the same plus hopefully some recruits and a few talented players stepping up.
I'd predict them gaining a few points and the competition losing out by comparison next season. Bayern will get roughly 80 points, Leverkusen will similarly, but behind those two Dortmund will likely finish in third. The year after that Alonso will be gone and Dortmund will be back on second place - without having to risk too much by buying players they can't afford.
In other words: Of the five big teams this season, only Bayern and Dortmund will look better next year. So, there is no need to panic and create self-inflicted damage through high-risk actions. They just need to stay on course. And they will.
If they win the ucl its gonna be one of the biggest achievements and one of the biggest upsets in history
I am a fan and member of Dortmund for over 25 years now and although I fully appreciate the CL run and how close we got to be champions last year, I feel Terzic has to go. I don't have the feeling he has a bigger idea where to lead the club, how to develop the football we play and is more a hindrance to the work of others in the club, e.g. Kehl. It seems he thinks from game to game and that is why we cannot get any consistency. It feels all to much like the small time with Doll or Stöger, but it is just not ending...
Chelsea and Liverpool won the Champions League in 5th and 6th
Actually, it's not happening once for both clubs. Liverpool had almost achieved this in 2018, despite only barely finishing 4th in Premier League, but they lost because of the infamous Salah's injury and Karius' mistake.
Chelsea in 2021 also won, having so close to miss out the Champions League qualification through Premier League's finishes.
Every season Terzic has coached for dortmund he’s produced results in one competition or another. It’ll be interesting to see if he can actually win something eventually outside of the Pokal or even just perform in multiple competitions at once next season
Dortmund fan here. This is gonna sound illogical but hear me out.
We are currently in the best position we can be to pull off a miracle in beating a historic juggernaut like Real Madrid. Not saying that our chances are high but it’ll be higher than if we had a more consistent season which results in us sitting in a top 3 position. Our weird season will be the key. Real Madrid are known for taking out already strong teams, especially with its prestige in the UCL .
The extreme inconsistency is gonna give us the extra sprinkle to beat Real Madrid. The UCL final is a high stakes, high risk, high reward situation. If we were consistent there wouldn’t be much “wiggle room” for it to pull off miracles aka much lower chance of Terzic black magic. I’d much rather us adopt a high risk extreme attacking approach and risk losing 4-1 than us being conservative and losing 1-0. We’ve already exceeded all expectations and there is no shame in losing to Real Madrid. We also ironically get more money if Real Madrid wins so we literally have nothing to lose. The pressure to succeed will 150% be on them, we have absolutely nothing to lose.
Have you considered making a video about union berlin?
Remind me of the seasons Eintracht Frankfurt had when they won the Europaleague League. Absolutely 10/10 in Europe, quite shit in the League.
The result was a freak season with 11th in the Bundesliga, but undefeated Europaleague champions 😂
As a BVB fan , I have the answer,
Terzić made a deal with the devil, we wont win the Bundesliga for like 10 years but we are going to win the Champions League
Statistically speaking, Madrid are more likely to win having won 14 of their 17 UCL/Euro cup 17 finals. Dortmund won one and lost one. All that aside, this is football where anything can happen, and nobody expected Lyon to beat City a few years back either, or for Ajax to stomp Madrid.
Real Madrid are going to feast on Dortmund in the final.
7:25 refs pulling the strings
As a BVB fan who doesn't want Terzic long term. It makes more sense to keep him for at least a year. This will be Lars Rickens first summer as the head honcho with Watzke stepping down. I would rather keep some stability in the club until Lars gets used to the new job. I think as much as I think Terzic needs to go to a 2nd league team or a smaller 1st league team with less pressure to gain more experience and his own tactical style and then return to BVB. We need to think long term and give Lars the time to decide what he thinks is best for the future without worrying about a new manager getting used to the club short term.
I fully agree with everything but also point out that this squad is not the best and definitely lacks depth. Especially lack the quality on attack and consistency...something Bellingham gives them
I think Terzic is a black mage
Bro I neeeeeedddddd that jersey. Do they deliver to 🇨🇦
Was waiting for my 'chao' :(
If they can win against Real they’ll have similar story of Liverpool’s miracle in Istanbul in 2005 as at that time they are also finished 5th in the league and they won against the formidable Ancelotti’s AC Milan. However to win against Ancelotti’s Madrid will needs a higher power intervention but of course anything is possible.
If we win the UCL dealing with another year of Terzic is fine....but if not it is gonna be an awful year next year
I'm not a huge Dortmund man but I support them because they remind me of my team Pumas UNAM. We both suffer and struggle to win championships. Dortmund can do it! For Reus!
Donyell Malen hasn't played well this season leading to the attack changing often. After we lost to bayern Edin Terzić started playing with the lineups in the domestic league making us inconsistent and we're playing good international ball so the domestic league lost focus.
Bvb 💛🖤
Bayern on track to scoring 100 goals yet aren't dangerous😂😂
He learnt from the best 3rd, 2nd place coach. Bilic he was his assistant during Beşiktaş. As you can see Beşiktaş comes out of everything. Come on do a Beşiktaş history video
Mainz is a really good team!!
Dortmund fan here. If it wasn’t for this ucl run, Terzic would be gone. He’s made some terrible decisions and the football has been a mess. Also, he’s really stifled Moukoko’s development too. I would be over the moon if they win this final, but I can’t see them beating Madrid. Luck has been a huge part of how we got this far but against a team like Madrid that are mentality monsters I just can’t see it happening.
Dortmund needs Mourinho
Would be the best thing tbh
Hell nah
Players simply play to win the Champions league, they give it their all that's how Di Mateo mysteriously won it in 2012.
But they used their C team...
wait Liverpool ‘05 is 3rd??😅 but Chelsea’2012 is waaaay better than Liverpool’05!! how??!
This is just like tuechel at chelsea in 21 the only way this season will be a success is if they win the UCL if not he should be sacked because thwy followed up making the final with a 3-0 defeat to a relegation mainz meanwhile Madrid spanked grenada
Mainz is a lot more difficult to beat than Grenada. But I see your point.
There's no making sense of Dortmund. This season just stands out from the pile. The switch keeps flicking on and off from one week to the next domestically. They don't look like they're going to win the league for quite some time
They want to win titles but to stay an underdog forever.
no way Macau 🇲🇴 got mentioned
"you get a terrible group, you're likely to get an easier rival..."
(laughs in Real Sociedad)
Dortmund is doing liverpool 05 run, if they win it.
I would give Dortmund if it wasn't for Real Madrid as they have that winners mentality
Borussia Dortmund are getting FM'd in the league. Just a mid season slump
Kinda like Liverpool in 2005
Viva dortmund
The greatest upset laoding
Imagine if Madrid loses to a Dortmund team which lost 3-0 against a relegated team mainz.
From the team that played PSG only Schlotterbeck started against Mainz and Mainz were not relegated, winning saved them from relegation. In contrast Real beat an already relegated Granada team that had nothing to play for.
Please stop vadrid, Dortmund i will buy 20 kits and donate them
shut up small finished oil club 🤣🤣🤣
Can understand ur frustration clown, mbappe is coming 😂boom boom 😂😂
Easy draw tax
Preeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet...
Why support a club you don’t get to see. And why support a club if you’re not from that city?