I Go Easy on Pop Music
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2023
- Why Anthony is such a filthy poptimist now.
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Melon, can you say "PK FIRE" really loud for me?
And then say it 7 more times til 120%
@@BlooBoi23lmaooo
@@BlooBoi23and then say it another 7 times just cause you hate fun
These comments get more and more random
Usually I loathe when people comment shit that has nothing to do with the topic at hand, but this one particular comment is SO strange and random that I might just have to let it slide
"music is getting better" is an honestly amazing take to have as you get older, that I can personally attest is hard to have with nostalgia being what it is. I'm proud of Anthony for not succumbing to it and raving about "the good old days."
@CircusMaximus3500 hip hop might be one of the genres that has had a demonstrable decline in the past few years, at least in the mainstream. Mid 2000s hip hop was mostly trash but hit it's high point in the mid 2010s, then fell off as everyone decided to bite Travis Scott
Nostalgia isn't the issue...it's a mixture of nostalgia and ignorance.
@CircusMaximus3500lyrically, Travis and Carti are shit but beat wise, it's gotten more futuristic but I wouldn't say better. Style just changed
@CircusMaximus3500 my favorite artist said something similar. He said lyrics come last . For me, the older I get the more the lyrics make sense to me because of experience
I mean he was being very specific comparing current pop to 2000s pop and 2000s pop was average at best. Most people would tell you that ( British 90s and 2000s pop was awesome though)
Pop music has really embraced the album format in a way they weren't in the 2000s and that's what has really gotten me on board
I think streaming changed that. Back then CDs were selling like hot cakes and singles were cheaper than albums. Many kids in the 2000s didn't have that many albums in their bedroom but they had an insane amount of singles and labels understood that. It was all about the first single and the video for it even when the album dropped it was always "This song on the album will be the next single" they never talked about the other songs on it
Now with streaming people don't really care about singles they listen to the album and chooses the songs they like from it. Sometimes the whole album drops on the artist's UA-cam channel so you can even listen to it for free. So artists now have better crafted albums all around
What about Justin Timberlake and micheal Jackson and prince and Justin Bieber Beyoncé Taylor swift Katy perry
@@joshentertainment2man tried to sneak in Justin Bieber and Katy Perry like we wouldn’t notice
@@mhead4376 you say album format
@@mhead4376😂😂😂
I think the fact hip-hop surpassed pop as the most accessible commercial genre also played a role in pushing many pop artists toward creativity. Making simple & catchy tunes won't fly anymore. Experimentation with genres is risky, yet the best way to refresh and improve artists' music.
The more recent idea of each album being an "Era" of an artists' career has done wonders, imo, in pretty much forcing many artists to continually push themselves to do different things and experiment with their sound.
Many fans today EXPECT their favorite artists and pop stars to do different stuff from album to album. People wouldn't stand for something like what AC/DC did with making pretty much the same shit their entire careers (don't get me wrong, I love those guys, but there wouldn't be an AC/DC in that way today because of fan expectations being so different).
For me, this has made all genres, but especially Pop, more varied than ever before.
What pop artists have been "pushed toward creativity"? Billie Eilish hasn't. Olivia Rodrigo certaintly hasn't.
@@kramersilver8331 You clearly haven't listened to them if you think they're not creative as far as Pop goes.
I have. They're make the most basic common denominator pop music that you can. The fact that you guys and Fantano thinks otherwise ruins his credibility@@TheGeorgeD13
@@kramersilver8331 Nah, it makes you in the minority. Even the biggest music nerds that like really weird and original stuff see the creativity in Eilish and Rodgrido's music.
You’re not “going easy” on it, just appreciating it without dismissing it. That’s what some people don’t like. I could easily say you go too easy on rap, but I know how ridiculous that would sound.
Genuinely I think some people who don't listen to pop music becuase they think it sucks by virtue of it being pop music, were annoyed that a music critic who they look to for validation that their music tastes are cool and interesting, thinks some pop music is good.
Pop fans need validation all the time that the music they like is great despite being a great pile of garbage most of the times.
@@andrepires7687 you are so angry its insane
please grow and change as a person
Hit the nail on the head. When will people understand, that much like any other genre, there's good pop music and bad pop music. The problem with the people complaining about Fantano's reviews is that they assume ALL pop music is bad by virtue of it being pop. Like, no, bestie. Yes, there's a bunch of shitty pop music being churned out every day (think David Guetta, Bebe Rexha, Imagine Dragons, Tones and I, etc.) but clearly Fantano is only praising the genuinely GOOD ones. Or at least the ones he enjoyed a lot or think is well-made.
Some people really do think if a song/artist is mainstream, it’s automatically garbage. It’s below them to give a chance or even recognize something casuals enjoy.
Not garbage, just artificial.
Pop music has 100% gotten better. I dread the day that the world is nostalgic for The Black Eyed peas “dirty bit”
So which pop album is great for you right now
Oh god please no
"Pop music has 100% gotten better. "🥴
dirty bit goes super hard
@@MainDrainStudiosdumbass 😂
The best take I've read is that mainstream music isn't as 'genre specific' anymore. With new artists and proyects experimenting with new sounds, songs aren't purely aren't "pop" or "r&b" anymore, instead you have them grouped by themes or emotions. Spotify playlists now have have some really weird names to group their music, like "making breakfast on your birthday" or "driving on a rainy day while remembering your childhood". This with the ability of social media apps like Tiktok to make otherwise unknown artists famous makes for what I think Anthony describes as "Better pop", new mainstream songs or albums now mix different sounds and makes if feel refreshing, even if not everything new is of high quality.
It never was a genre specific it was mostly a mix like most pop artist mix genres together for there albums it songs
Nah tiktok is destroying music
Yeah genres haven’t really been a thing for years now, some of the biggest song will incorporate rap/hip hop, pop Melodie’s, rnb, rock etc… something like 7 rings by Ariana grande would be considered traditionally pop but incorporates a trap style instrumental. Artists are no longer confined to genre labels anymore and I think it’s pretty sick.
@@Prodbyjah464 you need genres tho imo otherwise everything is gonna become too similar
Either that or you get another "gucci gang" (or *insert modern song you hate*)
It goes both ways honestly.
Music being good/bad will forever be entirely dependent on the ears of the listener.
You can say tiktok made songs refreshing or you can say it made music formulaic and too short.
There is no right answer, or rather, both are correct.
I think music streaming like Spotify influenced it a lot, because people pick what they want to listen to again, so the "one size fits all" strategy isn't as relevant.
That and also TikTok. So many old songs or indie songs blew up there
You better not touch my gal
He's dressed like he's about to go shopping for a giant swirly lollipop
cheers mate you fr made me LOL and clap my hands
I think the biggest difference between the pop music of today and say 15 years ago is that everything is niche now. The Internet has freed artists who still want to do pop music to allow them to almost make multiple sub genres of pop music, whereas 20 years ago there’s only one or two different types of pop music you could do you could do pop rock, or you could do pop R&B. But the Internet is democratized sounds.
No. It doesn't.
I was born in 1998 so I didn't live through eras of pop music before the 2000s, but even when living through it I always knew I liked older music way more than 2000s pop. But I distinctly remember hearing a number of pop songs I actually really liked in 2012 and saying "music is finally getting better because it couldn't possibly get worse" and while that was definitely hyperbolic, I am surprised that that line actually seems to have held true
As millennial and musician .. Billie Eilish changed pop music since 2019, creating the new pop era of this decade (2nd best selling female artist globally since 2019 after Taylor with only 3 albums, the impact she had it’s insane) and FINALLY it’s becoming more alt and there is something more interesting in the charts ! And deep!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 finally… I was waiting this moment for 10-15 years..
Love hearing you talk about pop like this Mr. Fantano!! 👍🏼
Heyy whay you doin here. Btw you should listen to lovejoy
I thought the years dominated by Maroon 5 and Katy Perry were terrible for pop music. But recently stuff by Dua Lipa and Olivia Rodrigo has a more mature sound to it that I really like.
Where every song had a shitty rap feature (I like rap, the features were just always out of place/cringe lol), and then a fist bump worthy shitty EDM drop 😂 pop has definitely evolved!
Love future nostalgia and sour/guts
I do feel like pop music that rules the charts nowadays has become more about quality than quantity (which is ironic, because of streaming). Like, I can picture that if we were in 2003, a bunch of Olivia Rodrigo wannabes would pop in the charts to catch up with her, and although I’m not denying that there may be some out there nowadays, they don’t get as much as exposure because music has become more about relatability than about what’s trending right now. The same goes for Dua Lipa or Billie Eilish.
@CircusMaximus3500 Yeah I was not a fan of the dubstep trend. My friends that were into it only liked it when they were rolling at raves
yea lana sza clairo to etc
saying that the late 90s/early 2000s was a mid era for pop music is one of the craziest things you've ever said, like WOW
Janelle Monae's ArchAndroid was one of the early albums to break out of that 00's funk!
Iconic album and person. Janelle Monae is the type of artist who breaks barriers but doesn’t get the recognition for it
Wow yeah thanks for reminding me! I remember listening to it when it came out and telling everyone she just did something that broke and will break new waters into the future. And now I realize how true it really became. I feel like pop artists being more demanding of themselves or the details of their music had a clear uptick after that one
Pop music can be good when the artist has any integrity
What I don't think a lot of people realize about great pop music is that it's one of the hardest genres to get right. While its sad that it is, almost by definition, designed to sell and be easily digestable (I'm not including outliers like Kate Bush and Bjork), its still very very difficult to make a song that addictive and memorable and, let's face it, melodic. It's no coincidence that when an artist is called poppy (when said in both a negative and a positive sense), they're usually called so because they're very melodic. Kurt Cobain being a great example.
I honestly couldn't agree more with this take. People love to shit on pop music, and I was absolutely one of those people in my teen years. I'm 25 and I didn't really start coming around to enjoying what I consider to be "good" pop music until the last 4 or 5 years. And I understand some of the reasons why people shit on it. It's often formulaic, it's often lacking emotional depth, it's often overproduced, so on and so forth. There's a million generic pop songs made every year that will never really make an impact anywhere for those reasons among others. While it could be considered easy to crap out a pop song that follows all the conventions and standards of pop music, it is absolutely one of the most difficult genres to do right and do well. It's not easy to craft an earworm that people can't get out of their head whether they want it there or not. It's not easy to craft a melody that is immediately memorable. It's not easy to craft a song that can be genuinely enjoyed by almost anyone.
I remember reading an interview The Weeknd did back when he released Beauty Behind The Madness where he said something to the effect of how he could release 100 more albums like House Of Balloons without issue because it was easy for him and without challenge, but that making pop music was difficult. People definitely underestimate what it takes to make great pop.
so because it's melodic it's one of the hardest genres to get right? can't believe people are giving you likes lol. also, bjork is nowhere near being pop.
@@korndud This person was most likely talking about making it catchy. There are tons of songs I love that I can appreciate regarding artistry, but I wouldn't find myself singing along to or casually humming throughout my day.
writing a good melody is pretty hard. and bjork is pop@@korndud
Pop is really easy to do right. Loads of people love even bad pop
2000s pop was legendary
For anybody who likes a pop-y sound and digestability I would recommend listening to Tomoo, she’s a Japanese artist who makes songs that I think are a bit closer to western popular music than most jpop is. I thought of this because her new song super ball just released today (it’s only on yt as of right now for some reason) and it’s great imo, especially 2:23 onward in the song was just so good! I would highly recommend listening to it along with my other two favorite songs of hers, othello (Osero in Japanese) and yume wa sametemo. If you like those I would also recommend yoake no Kiki e, honey boy, and be what you want to. She also has live versions of her songs with just piano and vocals that are similarly great, and very emotional, you can tell how much heart she puts into her songs on those versions especially.
Oh and also her music vids are pretty great too! They all have a very strong sense of color scheme, a very deliberate one too to match the vibe of the song. Some of them also have some very creative shots, especially yoake no kimi e.
Gave super ball a listen, not bad. Japanese limits the audience, but I understand English is hard for Asians (just as Asiatic languages are hard for us).
Been following you since 2009 and this is the best vid you ever did. For the first time probably ever I agreed with 100% you said, it's like we lived the same life! And I'm know to be a pop hater also but nah, its just everything like you explained here. Bravo.
That's why you're the best music reviewer. Because whether you're really into a genre or an artist, you always give it a fair listen and you can hear something as being good even if it doesn't tickle your pickle. I also think you appreciate the work artists put in, so even if the outcome is trash, you still give credit for trying. Don't change.
Every video on this channel should be this much of an effort post. This is one of the best Fantano videos.
tru, i would love more music history vids. he did a good job making his point.
Way better than the "Burning Man" video for sure
@@gardenboydon what issue did you take with that one? i don’t really care about burning man and thought it was funny that bad stuff was happening to silicon valley rich people.
I would go the opposite way and say you are way harsher on rock music in general than other genres
The only reviews I watch of yours are your metal/ noise reviews
born in ‘87….this video is valid. it was rewarding to keep the faith that pop would improve.
*The Needle Drop circa 1984*
"So I gave the new Prince album a 10. That doesn't mean I'm going soft on pop music. Just watch my review of the latest Wham! record, like come on guys."
Review the rise and fall of a Midwest princess.
What an interesting video. Thank you Antony Fantano!
As a lifelong pop girlie, I agree wholeheartedly. I grew up on 00s pop, and I'll always love it, but the pop music we're getting now is so engaging and fun and fluid. The indie pop scene in particular is such an incredible mix of influences, genre and collaboration. Anyone who continues to dismiss pop music is just missing out at this point.
Pop music is definitely better than it was in the 2000s and early 2010s. The only downside is I've noticed people don't dig deeper into indie music or lesser known older music as much as they used to because pop music is just good enough to not need to.
Not even close
Sorry we don’t listen to tame impala and boygenius and Alex g, bro
I grew up in the late 2000s/early 2010s, I love it, so I’m biased, but am 21 now, and I do see some merit in the landscape now even tho I think it’s ridiculously oversaturated. I do see, with streaming, more indie acts come up that I wouldn’t have known otherwise. Just have to look.
@CircusMaximus3500 they do!
@CircusMaximus3500 different taste I guess, I far far prefer lots of Billie Eilish and Olivia Rodrigo tracks to those songs. Bad Romance is the only song from those I like at all.
I do appreciate good pop music as making good music is hard, but making good music that also has a massive appeal is damn near impossible.
Great video. I agree with your point👍
🤣🤣🤣 the Charlie image in the lower right corner when you talk about being more critical....💀💀💀💀
Melon looks like he should have a propeller on the top of his hat. 😂
Anthony you said that you studied old media before setting up your platform here on YT, I would just like to say, I (and surely some others here) would be interested to hear what you did pre-TND
fantano should make a parody channel where he just destroys his favorite albums.
fantano wearing that south african flag hoodie drip
Lowkey one of the best videos on the fantano channel and I really agree. I think the radio in some respects has gotten worse but the production of alot of pop music is miles better than the best.
Melon, we aren’t upset that you like pop music. we’re mad you pissed in the pit at a death grips concert
in 2006 music wasn't even seen as a real form of art, it was just rubbish to be sold, and the same happened with Rock before that and Jazz before that. part of this was just pretension of people who thought they were better than others and a little racism/misogyny, another part is that Jazz, Rock and Pop artists started to take themselves seriously throughout the evolution of their respective musical genres. Olivia Rodrigo and Billie have much more creative freedom than any other mainstream teenage female singer in HISTORY, while Britney who sometimes managed to write and release good pop songs like Everytime was forced 99.9% of the time to record what others told her to.
Taylor only managed to write a more adult language on her albums when she was 27 years old (TWENTY SEVEN YEARS OLD), many don't know but she fought with her old record company to be able to release pop music in 2014 and she only had the freedom to do what she wanted 100% in his 7th album aged 28/29.
I appreciate that costs of production has dropped. Barrier to entry is much lower. Sure things like autotune and melodyne are ubiquitous the fact that people can record things with prosumer hardware.
"WOOOO YEAHH BABY! I'M IN FANTANO'S NEW VIDEO!" -Moist Critical (word for word)
This may be a good conversation topic with Beato. (I'm not a frequent viewer of that guy, but this topic would be cool)
I watch both channels
Problem is unfortunately Beato doesn’t know shit abt “good” modern pop music and doesn’t care to explore even a fraction of what Fantano does, so his perspective is extremely skewed based on top 10 charts.. although his reviews of those are fun and accurate. It just pains me that he thinks that those songs are the all there is to current pop music..
@@micshazam842He really likes Olivia Rodrigo. I remember when he reviewed the top 10 and heard Driver's License. He was blown away. Maybe when he hears some new single from this new album he will praise her again.
nah beato is a boring, overly technical, nostalgic rock guy. pop is something he just doesnt vibe with at all, especially modern pop. and even if he does, he only appreciates it for the nerdy music theory shit that nobody cares about. too focused on showing off his music theory knowledge instead of just vibing with the bigger picture essence of the song.
@readyaimfire3454 overly technical? He's literally the opposite lmao. And you're saying nerdy theory shit like if your favorite artists don't use it to make the music you like
good point
yup
You killed Ariana Grande???
HOLY SHIT MELON NO
Grenade*
That was Eminem
i loved how offended ariana grande fans been over that line from unaccomodating when literally lines like those are nothing new from em lol despite em being the same guy who donated like 2 millions for the tragedy like lmao@@Tocinos
@@spiridonrobert16I mean yes but it was kind of tasteless. Just shock value for shock value’s sake. his offensive lyrics used to be boundary-pushing, now they’re just cringe. And I’m a huge Eminem fan
Yeah you and me are about the same age and honestly I grew up thinking that just maybe I don’t like music, music in the late 90s and 00s was so mid. I didn’t really start enjoying popular music until the late 00s into the 10s when things were getting more interesting and the conversations were actually about something. So yeah, I’m with you on this. Music now is way better than it was when I was growing up.
It wasn't. You just didn't listen to the right music.
I think media decentralization and globalization allowed different tastes and subcultures/genres to make their nests in different corners of our society's soundsphere, and that bleeds into the aggregate sentiment in mainstream music.
still have everything is love a 5 😢
I feel like Fantano only likes Olivia is because she can deliver her emotions really well with her vocals and that makes her music more likeable, I guess? (I like her music because it has emotions on it). Like most pop girlies today(Except Billie) has really generic vocal delivery.
Fantano stans try not to be pretentious about pop music challenge (impossible)
or just music in general
I’m no Fantano Stan but I’m definitely guilty for being pretentious over pop music in the past. No music taste or genre is superior but I still think charting music will always be quite bad overall with a few good songs once in a blue moon imo.
This.
how do you know if a person is pretentious or not?
@@RezkoMunyak when someone is ambitiously trying to impress someone with how clever they are but in a way that’s annoying, arrogant and a bit disrespectful. Sometimes, people who say something pretentious are overcompensating how clever they are.
not him recording this at the guts set
rod wave rod wave rod wave
I mostly agree with you. There was a reason for the underground hipster era that isn't as relevant today, and pop music is not as offensively bad as it used to be. However... I do see the striking similarity to the way you described MTV and the music industry to modern day UA-cam, where increasingly famous creators have to process and package digestible morsels of content down to algorithms in the precise, regurgitated format that maintains their level of success. And while I love your content, I think it's worth noting that while popular music has gotten better overall, UA-cam content has not.
Olivia Rodrigoes it goes it goes it goes it goes it goes it goes it-
Mellonteens
He come to me with money is hand
Y2K era pop was peak imo😅
you should review a chicks on speed album
Like he briefly mentioned too, as a UA-cam channel where it’s your livelihood, you gotta review what is expected to make in some money. Sadly amazing albums that are super obscure is not going to get very many click (unless the internet did some magic, like how famous Fishmans music got because of the internet, but that’s a later thing we can’t really predict). So, he would be making a slight sacrifice for the channel by reviewing something like a sprain album, because he feels it’s so good at least a few more people should listen to it. But if he did that all the time, the channel would likely be impacting his livelihood drastically in a negative way, and people who wanna see albums they are familiar with to some degree (a lot of peeps are like that, so he HAS to make a Drake album review, cuz dude, the guy doesn’t need the pos/neg exposure, we just want to react to Melon’s opinion) may even leave the channel when they see bands they have never seen before being reviewed constantly. This is also why we never get mid obscure albums reviews (not worth reviewing a mid obscure band with a brand big as this). It’s usually only very good or very bad (which also extremes play in viewership too). Lol
It’s harder when you have a business, can’t put 100% into it depending on your outlooks, but there is thankfully passion and good in what’s popular too. And it makes seeing those good (and sometimes bad lol) obscure things we should hear all the better.
2012 pop was better than current pop. So many bangers. Current pop is shit for me and I feel fantano is still a softie
That's called nostalgia.
Review Wolfpack by wolfy please ❤
Had no idea the Needle Drop started out as a podcast! You should reboot that shit considering how popular podcasts are now… it’d be great to hear you have guests and just good, insightful conversations with people about music, or spirited debates. Call it The Needle Pod.
Rodrigo is a lazy curation of the past 20 years of pop
UK pop, Xenomania, Richard X opened the door to poptimism back in the early 2000s.
A mix of UK garage and pop back in the day with hits like "Gotta Get Through This" kinda turned the page on pop for a bit. US only caught up with this later.
My favorite genre is 80s pop jazz and Soul
You've got an incredible taste. I'm all for Sade type of music.
@@shocksystem8675 sophista pop you mean
@@shocksystem8675 it’s very chill
@@joshentertainment2 Agreed
As someone who also grew up with Madonna, George Michael, Prince and the music of one of the best pop eras, I’ve actually discussed this with friends of mine. It’s always surprising that there aren’t more pop artists that showcase the influence of what I consider the beginning of the “art pop” era “Like A Prayer”, “Rhythm Nation”, “Sign O’ The Times”. The only modern pop artists really doing this are Lady Gaga, Miley Cyrus, and Beyoncé.
Honestly flowers was overplayed on the radio and tik tok but a 70s dance influenced single is way better than the old formulaic pop
Artpop started two decades before madonna
But for americans madonna is the standard for "art" in pop culture i guess
@@syntheticsilkwood2206 first doesn't mean best. Name one rapper before 2pac & biggie
@@rockypikmin4493Q-TIP
@@rockypikmin4493lol easy…Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap , KRS One
Slick Rick, Chuck D of Public Enemy , NWA , Melle Mel , Ice T , LL Cool J
I could go on but I’ll stop there cause I feel like those were the ones that were relevant
I remember in the 2000s feeling like is this all popular music can be. And then 2010s hit and fun. is playing after some emd song.
💯💯💯
Though it may not be possible to defend right now, I think that current pop is more "timeless" than what came out in the 2000's. There are so many musical tropes that have not aged well from that era: the all-mids radio-like vocal embellishments, the digital cymbal flourishes, the "sforzando" string synths (like in every NSYNC song), really the general overexcitement about new developments in synth technology, and of course the spoken word intro or bridge conversation / argument / affair discovery lol
"All the time
I'm grateful all the time
I'm sexy and I'm kind
I'm pretty when I cry"
You know fantano could relate when olivia sang that
Maybe he’s a woman you don’t know.
“Pretty when I cry” still fits the stereotypical GQ models who do the one tear cry and still look attractive lol
Your point he doesn’t need to relate to it himself to understand it’s relatable to people especially women who if you actually pay attention to what she’s say and the message then this is relatable
"I can't relate to it" --people who have obviously never read a book.
(I know the post I replied to was a shitpost. just building on the idea of taking it seriously)
“I can’t relate to it” - average hip-hop fan from the suburbs. It reminds of the Drake Stan who claimed Auntie Diaries was bad because he, again, “couldn’t relate to it”.
Cropping up
Review kylie tension
When you first started, you stated that you reviewed music of "The independent persuasion."
Don’t make money talking about people no one cares about.
Anthony changed the artists he reviews and his audience for the exact same reason pitchfork did… more clicks
Fantano tombstone: "I didn't become a friend of pop music. Pop music became a friend of me."
0:40 is that not already the case🤔
my pop makes awesome music
for the love of god can people please stop using the word objective when reviewing music it just gets on my nerves so bad
theres nothing objective in music review at all. nothing. its all just opinions and interpretations, there is no correct answer
Where is the Laufey review fantano
I'm sorry but I think the early 2000's boy band era was way better than theis current sad, soul crushing pop wave
that post really doesn't seem like it's open minded to anyone having a different opinion. not in very good faith at all
3 paragraphs to say "it's mid, I don't like it. why do people like this?". and it is not any more heady than the bullshit I used to say in high school about pop music.
@5:22 "Post Grunge Christian Rock". Lol definitely, would actually like to see you review Christian Contemporary Music and/or gospel music records. They may be niche genres, but you can argue that Christian music is the most popular niche genre. Would really like to see your takes on the music from to my knowledge, your Agnostic/Atheist perspective.
I def agree with you on pop feeling so much more experimental even if the charts can sometimes still be dominated by bland stuff, it's almost a testament to how good it's gotten when something as loud and raucous as GUTS can be considered just okay.
Guts is just OK? Honestly, a lot of people, including myself, have given it lots of praise. I don't like it as much as, say, Renaissance, of course, but that record is from a highly skilled and experienced veteran that sort of sets an unfair standard for experimentalism in the pop sphere, which a 20 year old's second studio record is just not going to have. For what it is, Guts is quite excellent, actually.
@@TheZenomeProject It's just my take personally I feel like I like the kind of itches Olivia scratches on GUTS aren't the ones I really go for in that kind of realm. Maisie Peters' record from earlier in the year overshadowed it for me just cause it just hit a better balance of sound and writing for me.
Not the Swedish song writers
When I Hear Your Name por favor
I appreciate you are re-evaluating your opinions on Pop Smoke and Iggy Pop Music
Why does he still hate Icona Pop 😢
As someone who also lived through the '90s and '00s who found Fantano circa '14 at the peak of my obnoxious, insufferable, teen music snob phase where I only listened to the obtuse stuff that my groomer boyfriend of the time handed me? I can relate to a lot of this. I've personally grown up a lot since to the point I am now attending my first music festival this weekend at 27 years of age where 16yo me would have turned her nose up at 99% of the acts. I don't have to like all the acts but it feels good to have expanded my palette to the point I'm excited to float around between the acts I'm keen for and share this experience with my partner who likes music I never used to.
The beggining of the 2010's was plagued by some of the most generic and ungenuine music
Anthony Fantano
"The stars look very different today." - David Bowie
The truth of that line and the double meaning of "stars" makes me tear up every time.
you giving the new carly a 6 debunks this notion
roderick waverson
Yeah, I fully agree with this, actually. The 2020s are set to be the best decade of pop music since the 1980s, simply because the music industry has lost control of the zeitgeist.
One thing I cannot stand about the current generation's pop music is dear diary egocentric approach to songwriting that many of these young pop stars take. Rather than take that personal experience to make a broader point about something it's all look at me and pay attention to my personal life. I really don't care about how some pop star feels about their ex. The production can still be good though.
*whisper vocals* *guitar* well...I hate ... my boyfriend...shhhhhh
Why don’t you do more stuff like Kurt Vile as I feel your moving away from that. Why did you not review his album (watch my moves)? Just wondering thanks
fantanoooo rod waveeeee
What does yellow flannel mean?
When he wears a yellow flannel shirt the score will be 8 or higher
Good video Melon, hate when people start hating popular stuff for being popular. In a world of Ed Sheerans, Maroon 5s and Chainsmokers, people should celebrate Olivia, Billie, Lil Nas and Lizzo (musicaly I mean). However, instead of being happy about how popular music is getting more and more unique, I see a lot of people feeling like they “ruined” certain types of sounds. That makes me sad
there's always going to be haters. people are mostly just projecting their own feelings
I never understood this thing online-active pop fans do, where they act like its not ok to have certain types of artists you praise and certain types of artists you write off as terrible. Yet they’ll act like its an objective fact that certain pop artists should be praised (Dua lipa, T Swift, Weeknd) while others are terrible (Ed Sheeran, Maroon 5, Chainsmokers), and its always the exact same list of artists too. Seems like you guys also have a list of acceptable ‘cool’ artists vs non-acceptable ‘uncool’ artists yet you act like you’re above those concepts. One moment you guys go “omg just let people enjoy what they like” if someone shit talks an artist you guys like, but you’ll happily mention ‘uncool’ mainstream artists to juxtapose how much better your faves are?
@@8bitdiedie yeah, even the infamous modern Maroon 5 albums have fans (it's me, i'm the fans)
@@blarghblargh They also may just not like them
@@8bitdiedie while you're not entirely wrong, pop acts like the Chainsmokers, Ed Sheeran, Shawn Mendes, Bebe Rexha, Selene Gomez etc etc just make incredibly generic music with zero personality and originality compared to pop artists like Billie Eilish, Beyoncé, Rina Sawayama, Lana Del Rey, Charli XCX, Carly Rae Jepsen etc etc. I'm not claiming that these artists make the most unique and innovative music ever but I think that the difference between them and the "generic" ones is clear
I was in high school in the early 2010s and remember hating pretty much everything played at my prom but yeah pop is way better now than then