LET'S ARGUE: Stop Getting Political
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
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"in order to write poetry that isnt political, i must listen to the birds. and in order to listen to the birds, the warplanes must be silent." marwan makhoul
Black Eyed Peas were almost like Tribe Called Quest vibes in their first single then they consciously and very publicly sold out as hard as they possibly could
Yea they are the ultimate example of selling out..they booted their black singer for fergie..stopped having actual lyrical rap..and went from backpack hip hop to straight pop. Truly one of the corniest groups of all time
Where is the love?
Remember when 311 gave them praise in a single? That was the BEP they were praising. I wonder how they think of that lyric now.
You have no soul if you dont think "i gotta Feeling" (2009) is an absolute Classic and one of the most iconic Anthems of the 21st Century
@@no-vk2qe I Gotta Feeling is one of the worst songs to get popular, and the Black Eyed Peas have much better party anthems anyway.
"Stop getting political" to me is always from people who think politics isn't a real force that affects them. They think it's a separate genre of entertainment for people who like arguing statistics.
That's why I don't get when people praise people, often celebs they like but sometimes just associates, for being "apolitical". Like damn, so they don't care about the world they live in? Cool, pretty shitty.
It can also be the opposite, meaning that politics should not be approached like slogans through art, but rather seriously, with well-structured debates and based on facts. Politics ≠ Propaganda
@@Francesco.vToo bad that’s not how it works. You can thank DJT for that, facts and debates mean nothing when one side of the political aisle just calls everything they don’t like fake news or whatever.
And you don’t have to be a debate bro and have all the facts to see how politics can affect you in the day to day. That’s a weird, elitist assumption that assumes people are too stupid to acknowledge how the world works.
@@EJFF. Been happening much longer than DJT. But you're right, the other guy assuming that politics can only be referenced through 300 page books or "well-structured debates" is completely missing how most people consume and form their political ideology and turns it into solely something that elites are allowed to comment on. Braindead take. Does he think that he only came to his political ideology by engaging in well-structured debates? haha
Adorno said that art can be a powerful vehicle to spread class consciousness and I 100% agree. If I hadn't listened to system of a down, watched anti-war movies, and wasn''t exposed to the comedy I was exposed to, I wouldn't have the same politics that I do now.
I will never get another chance to learn about the Dave Matthews tour bus incident for the first time. That was a singular experience that can never be recreated, and I didn't even know it was coming.
As soon as i saw him smirking i knew it was gonna be in there
Imagine learning about it from a jacksfilms video
Knew about it but I've never seen that picture before, good god
@@ianfullerton1800 pounds of human poo is a hell of a lot of poo. As funny as this story is, I'd be fucking traumatized if I was on that boat.
Funny the boat didn't see it coming either! 😉🙃
"Stop getting political" comments always, and I do mean ALWAYS come from the same side of the political spectrum.
Could it not be argued that it’s because one side dominates the culture so it makes sense that it’s the other side always complaining?
@@lordmcawesomeville5628No
@@lordmcawesomeville5628Well, it's because right wingers can't create, because they don't have souls.
It's the same people who only see two genders: "Male" and "Political"
Which side?
"Stop getting political" always reads to me as "Keep your politics out of art! You should be putting MY politics in art!"
It is truly people just performatively pissing their pants every time.
But they’re not complaining about artists being political, they’re complaining about Fantano who isn’t an artist, it’s not the same thing
I have never cared when music artists get political. I just think it’s in complete bad taste how political Fantano gets.
It’s always there with movies - always Tyrone Magnus or someone yelling that seeing a gay couple appear for 30 seconds in a movie or show is “woke”
@@MM-jc7uvIt's still stupid. If a song/album has a political message, Fantano can talk about politics all he wants lol
My favorite apolitical bands and artists are rage against the machine, Bruce Springsteen and System of a Down. It’s a shame that they allowed themselves to fall for the woke mind virus. I remember a time when I could listen to bulls on parade without ever thinking about leftist politics. Smh my head.
I miss apolitical songs like Prison Song and Killing in the Name Of...
@@NoName......fax bro and my favorite apolitical patriot anthem, born in the USA. Bruce used to be a patriot and now he’s a wokie
I remember when I could rock out to punk music like Dead Kennedys or The Clash without a care in the world. Yet another part of our culture that's been taken over by those disgusting cultural Marxists...
I can’t believe Pink Floyd added a rainbow flag to their album cover. 🥺😤
I remember when Refused would just scream about new noise but then started spewing that liberal filth
“The black eyed peas were corporate but never tried to act like they weren’t.”
They literally made a song called Gone Going in which they criticized the very idea of musicians selling out
Same thing with BEP Empire.
Love that song. The Jack Johnson sample absolutely makes that album.
Remember when BEP shot a promo for NBA on ESPN using "Let's Get It Started"? I wonder... I wonder if that's selling out or not...
Or when "Hey Mama" was used in Garfield the Movie...
Or when they did ads for Pepsi...
Or when they did ads for Dr. Pepper...
Or when they did ads for Target...
@@th3mdt doing ads isn’t really selling out. Unless you’re playing the “I’m a true artist” angle and you change your sound to fit a mold to get a check doing an ad isn’t selling out
And after that very album, they started to make the most bland, plastic shit that could graze any ears around the world. So, yeah.
my favorite genre of "art enjoyers" who never realize that the majority of art throughout history (especially in mediums or genres like hip-hop, punk, avant-garde, expressionism, etc.) was inherently political, or born as a result of political strife.
The only people complaining about politics in art are on the political side that has consistently produced the worst art.
Nice
That is true but most artists spend so much time making art they sound like idiots from the causes they support because they never read actual stats
It’s really sad that Tom Macdonald and Forgiatto Blow are sincerely the front runners of a political ideology
Is this aiming at the right?
most artists are on the left though. having a conservative mindset is the antithesis to creativity @@suru_media
I was really hoping you were going to mention the Dave Matthews Band poop bus incident. It's a traumatizing moment in our city's history.
I was a victim
@@Kanyewestbiggestfan123No shit?
@@gdawgs101a lot of it, apparently
@@Kanyewestbiggestfan123seems the stain left a lasting effect on your musical taste.
@@gdawgs101 a lot of shit
I've noticed that the people who tell artists to stop being political will openly praise art and in some cases, dedicate entire videos to songs, movies or books when they have politics that they actually agree with.
EVERYTHING is political. Doesn't matter if you write a song about dog turds on the sidewalk, you can make a political statement out of it. The error a lot of the people complaining make is thinking politics = partisan politics, or they have a very narrow view of what politics is.
@@digidice "Everything is political" position is almost as bad as "art shouldn't be political"
Both basically devalue any actual political art, intentionally or not
@@sanny8716they are not equivalent positions, and "everything is political" in no way devalues "actual political art". You can recognize the unintentional politics present in a film like Transformers and still understand how it's different from Come and See or They Live in form and function.
@@fernandomoras9160 I didn't say they were equivalent, and I stand by my point. It devalues importance of a political message in art, and robs political art of its place in culture.
@@sanny8716 why does it? How? Unless you think "political" is some higher aspiration that art can have, and you're worried about the riffraff incidentally political art mixing with the superior true political art, the point makes no sense.
honestly i dont even know what a “political” is, I just watch these because of how cute Anthony is 😍
same i have no idea what this “music” nonsense is 😍😍😍
@@user-yl8zp9mn1w i have no idea what "words" are 😍
Samesies
This but unironically
"Political" is when you're clumsily add some boring takes into your music and receive money for this from shady organisations.
Art is politics. Art has an impact on society and its people. Ignoring its impact on marginalized people is selfish and wrong.
Pretty much everything is political TBH. This idea that things can be removed from politics is naive AF.
that george orwell quote here
all you have to do is look at history and you'll know
@@laughingduck1000 LITERALLY 1984
@@skooch5769 how is Pac-Man political?
The intro was great 😂
You were great
You make good videos btw.
@@TOPOPPCHRIS_TWIN thanks man! Appreciate it
Especially because I’m a wrestling fan
@@Whybotherlifeismeaninglesslolhe wasnt talking to you..
Remember: "Stop being political" is just codewords for "stop disagreeing with MY politics."
No it isn't. The same argument for people wanting to politicize everything is an equal neurosis then
@@greatcoldemptiness literally everything is politics
@@JohnDoe77099 Insufferable and terminally online people think this. There's nothing political about drinking with your boys on a Friday night or falling in love for the first time.
"um actually supply chain issues can prevent certain beers from appearing and um actually big domestic breweries exploit people and you shouldn't be drinking that b because of this" 🤓🤓🤓👆
@@greatcoldemptinessyou are seriously wrong.
@@greatcoldemptiness falling in love can be political if you're gay or trans or if you fall in love with a person with another skin colour or race. Drinking with the boys on a Friday night is escapism from your job and jobs are political. And if you live in Australia like me alcohol is taxed a fuck ton so we actually have to think more about what we buy. The drinking culture here is very big and the government is trying to make us drink less so lots of venues have government ads that support less drinking.
I'm not terminally online or insufferable, I just have a brain, it's not hard for things to be political. Mfs who say terminally online now are usually the most terminally online and insufferable
Completely agree with the "industry plant" take. People keep throwing that term around when someone only they don't know collabs with someone famous. I've heard people call Jean Dawson an industry plant because he's got songs with SZA, ASAP Rocky, and Mac DeMarco, but the thing about Jean is he got to those features through hard work, not by industry connections.
I don’t care if people are industry plants as long as they make good music for example: Olivia Rodrigo. But I do care if people are industry plants when they make shitty music for example: Taylor Swift.
Tbh that's the funniest thing I've seen today. Jean Dawson is probably the furthest thing away from an industry plant. People just like to squabble nonsense.
@@colvynharris9138 did you unironically call Taylor Swift an industry plant?
@@gtgtgtgtgt123456789exactly
Aren't technically most older artists industry plants because before the rise of music you had to have connections even if you were good, to have your music aired and played unlike today where you can be a mega star successful artist through the internet?
The people that say "keep politics out of music" are often fine with Tom McDonalds and everyone singing about the Vietnam War back in the day. They just don't want the other side's politics lmao
No we aren't lmao. Music can express politics, but when it becomes your entire personality and when literally everything becomes politicized, it gets objectively annoying.
inb4 the "um actually everything is political sweaty" cope.
@elblanco7741
What a total straw man argument.
But pats on the back, I guess, for memeing on conservatives. That’s the whole point isn’t it
Looks like I made the Tom Macdonald fans cry 🤣🥱
@@greatcoldemptiness And yet you can't share examples of popular music artists that "make politics their personality", nor can you give examples of moments that Fantano has done the same. Wonder why?
Some people need to listen to A Thousand Suns ;)
My mom once asked me listening to a song on the radio “is this an electric guitar?”
... Well was it?
Talking Heads had a great song with this name
Art as pure entertainment is a corporate trick designed to get the masses to pay up. Art has meaning. Artists like making meaning. The good ones have something to say.
The complaints are coming from those who prefer not to think about... y'know, life.
Nirvana, Rage Against the Machine, hell even Genesis have gotten "political". People are just mad because they couldn't understand messages of songs when they were younger but now understand the opposing politics of the music they hear
Bingo!@@nerdyneedsalife8315
@@nerdyneedsalife8315Bet the same was said for bands like The Beatles, Pink Floyd, and Rush.
@@nerdyneedsalife8315yeah, it's just being reactionary innit.
Many people find politics tacky. You can make meaningful art without touching on politics.
I would definitely listen to a Kendrick concept album about the societal benefits of paid maternity/parental leave.
That intro was oscar-worthy, Melon.
Congrats to Fantano for quite possibly the best youtube video intro of all time
idk the car one was pretty cool
Congrats on quite possibly the stupidest comment of all time!
congrats to @josedabigbrain3667 for quite possibly the best meat glazing performance of all time
Holy shit thatistheplan energy in that intro
"Music? Not anymore"
In the “moms have better taste than dads”, my experience is almost the opposite of Melon’s. In my household, my mother isn’t very fond of secular music, she’s very christian and pretty much only listens to gospel and christian music, the only exception to the rule being The Beatles and young Michael Jackson (his first two solo albuns and some Jackson 5 stuff). While my father is very knowledgeable of music, introduced me to various metal bands, pop artists and plenty of good music in general, and he never cared about what I would be listening as long as it wasn’t pagode or funk carioca (two brazilian styles of music very popular here in Brazil), while my mom complains about me blasting hip hop and death metal while I wash the dishes every time she comes to the kitchen while I’m at the sink.
Same here
Meanwhile my dad exclusively listens to weird al, while my mom listens to classic rock / soul / funk etc.
Nothing wrong with a bit of weird al but if it's 6am and ur blasting his music I tend to prefer my mom's music lmao
My parents both appease my music taste but are confused lmao. I got my mom into metallica a little bit but then she got a headache so ig I just left her traumatized 😶 hip hop just confuses her but she'll let me play it if I'm in town
My parents only listen to radio music 🫤
Esse preconceito com funk aqui é a mesma coisa que preconceito com rap lá fora. Acho que você tem sorte do seu pai não entender inglês, talvez.
@@sukitabrazil ele entende inglês. Rap e hip hop com ele é hit or miss, ele curte muito o To Pimp a Butterfly do Kendrick Lamar, que é um álbum que não tem muitas obscenidades e foca mais em aspectos políticos, sociais e pessoais do Kendrick, mas ele detesta Eminem, por exemplo, que xinga bastante e tem muitas letras que tocam em sexo
The Dave Matthew’s band tour bus poop story is one of the most iconic moments in history and needs to be studied more. I can’t believe it everytime I hear about it
Logan Paul, KSI, and now Anthony Fantano joining WWE. UA-cam is truly taking over.
The man just did a shoot about a match that isn't going to happen for another 11 months. He means business.
Even trump was "in" the wwe for a while. I'm surprised no one ever brings that up, or his feud with rosie o'donnell of all people
Been waiting on your Dave Matthews Band take for years, now I can finally listen to them!
he's mentioned before he likes crash. dont remember which vid. it was a lets argue. i was glad. huge fan. not a fan of the shit falling out of the bus tho
I guess what the "don't get political" person meant is "don't express what I disagree with". Something being political is much more than just "I'm a democrat Vs I'm republican". A woman talking about her experience in the world is political, a poc expressing their hardships in a song is political, etc. Art has also been a great medium of expressing your political views since forever. When there was a coup d'etat in Brazil, artists chose art to express how they felt.
Those are human rights issues, not political issues. A political issue is whether or not the state should adopt a single payer healthcare system, or whether a certain tax should be raised, or how much of the budget gets allotted to a specific thing.
@@mitchryan85 not really. Social issues are within politics. In order to implement social programs, one needs to understand how social issues are impacting people's lives.
@@mitchryan85 politics is a social science just as economy.
@@mitchryan85that is definitely political bud
@@mitchryan85Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan shat out a baby; you
"If you want to perform political analysis perform political analysis through something other than art", thats def the dumbest thing i've read today lol... man, art has been political since like always
The comment was about Fantano doing the analysis not the original artist.
@@Timmy2by4no way fantano did a political analysis about political subjects in the music hes reviewing 🤯
"Art must be shocking and controversial," said the jobless commie from his moms basement
@@Timmy2by4 yeah i know, but we are all political beings, we all do politics every day, even when someone says "don't put politics in art" or "i don't like politics" they're doing politcs, that's why comments like that are dumb
@@GameTimeNLLI would think there‘s a difference between an analysis of a song with political elements in it and a political analysis. One puts politics way more in the forefront than the other. And me personally, I cant stand the 63rd review of Tom McDonald‘s new song or the newest controversial country song analysis being labeled as ‚racist‘, which is why I refrain from anything on here that I even get the whiff of being overly political on here.
Jesus, the intro was majestic.
it would be okay for you to be political if you just agreed with me
You win.
Ig but i am clearly far superior like 1000000000000000 x 11000000000 times better im like Jesus if he was reborn like srsly
IT BE LIKE THAT FR
That’s what they’re really saying
@@vasilijepopovic2916who are you
Not a black eyed peas fan, but “Where is the Love?” Is forever gonna hold a special place in my heart. Such a fun and catchy song. No ones gonna stop me
That’s one of the few songs that they made that still sounds good today. Most everything else they made aged terribly
@@TheNadroj10 100% agree
I love how The Edge's style of dotted eighth delayed guitar is now the standard sound of cliched corporate background music.
Take a look at the Tantacrul video about corporate music if you want more corporate music slander. Can’t recommend it enough
I swear I just will not buy any product that was advertised to me via a song where the lyrics were "Oh oh ohohoh ohy oh"
Imagine being able to say you got covered in a waterfall of the Dave Matthews’s band poop while on a river boat.
Crash into me
There really is so much to say about it
ryan did excellent editing this jesus, the visual humor and whatnot here caught me off guard so much from what im used to with fantano's content lmao
Any time someone says this I remember the tweet or comment to Tom Morello. Except her actually studied politics and graduated from Harvard. He also worked in politics before realizing it was way too corrupt and it's mostly lies. It's not about the people at all.
So there you go. Pushed him to create Rage Against The Machine alongside the other members. Zach being the last piece to the puzzle. Fun fact, they almost went with Maynard James Keenan who instead became the vocalist of Tool and later A Perfect Circle and Puscifer.
And then went on to back the fash sash blue lives matter. MJK is scum
Can you imagine RAtM without Zach??? No, no one can. He's perfect for them
@@uniquechannelnamesRATM without Zach is just Audioslave
i'm a simple man, I see a comment from someone with an avatar of Laterallus, I give it a like.
LET'S ARGUE: I can't rage against the machine if you keep using it to wash the same two or three flannels you have, Antnee, we agreed to share this apartment equally and my mom isn't paying my rent this month, so I think you shou
best comment
great seeing you have fun with those siiick edits Fantanthony 🔥
Anthony, you need to use that "NOT GOOD" slam on your vids, it will really elevate those, at leats randomly using it
"Stop getting political!" (Read: "Only say political things I like" or "Ignore what people default to and don't mention it to give the illusion of being apolitical.")
Tell me ur a lib w o telling me ur a lib
@SmileAway21 I’m not
The dream of thatistheplan is alive in this video
Didn't see a lot of "keep politics out of my art" when Jason Aldean was glorifying sundown towns or with Oliver Anthony.
Conservatives are groomed from a very early age to not only cancel or erase but to COMPLETELY attack and destroy everything that does not agree with their agenda.
Liberals may call out the politics or ideas of someone like Aldean or Kid Rock..... but Conservatives will literally try to eradicate people who disagree with them.
They're a disease bro..... why do you think they accuse everyone else of doing the things they do? Including abusing children.....
*looking at Guernica*: "Man stop performing political analysis through the medium of art"
"DoNT bRinG pOliTik iNtO mY MuSic" it always was there, somehow like a gazillion people were completely blind to that fact
In art, for sure, but not in fantano’s videos. Most signed up to this channel cuz to stay to upto date with the music space not to hear his political views. 2016 article melted this man’s brain.
I have no issue with artists, musicians filmmakers whatever, getting political. What I find hilarious are the "you're paid to entertain us not lecture us" types that have a problem with it...until an artist comes along that says something they agree with. Then suddenly it's "you tell em, Hank" or "say it louder for people in the back"
There’s difference between being political and pandering tho. All these professions u mentioned solely belong to the entertainment sector so their first job is to entertain us.
Also it’s fine having political views but don’t force it down on ur audience instead make them come to their own decisions rather making them choosing the only political based option for them.
@@orange_penis you say that but I'll say again, barely anyone considers something pandering or forced when the statement being made is something they agree with. Or at the very least, their tolerance for it goes way WAY down. At that point to them, it's not lecturing it's just the truth making for a character or set of characters they can relate to all the more...whereas even a single scene from a minor subplot that goes against one's views can be the very thing that makes headlines and leads some people to scream bloody murder that they refuse to watch it.
Yes entertainment comes first in a sense but there's tons of people out there that LOVE a good movie with a strong and clearly defined message/set of themes. There is a such thing as "too on the nose" but that's often a critique for even apolitical exposition. Films with a lot of ambiguity in their intent can be artful and worthy of spawning discussion, but many people find oftentimes such things confusing or pretentious - people enjoy being moved but they want to at least feel that they understand what the filmmaker is going for.
Me personally, most films that seem to have nothing to say at all can oftentimes feel rather empty. I'd rather see a message I disagree with than a movie that's just there to pass the time.
@@chrisjfox8715 “there’s tons of people out there that Love a good movie with a strong and clearly defined message” these ppl u mention are in the huge minority tho. More than 90 percent of the audience rather watch movie that gets them entertained than movie with a msg that is politically divisive. Most ppl go to the cinema hall and watch a movie to escape from the harsh realities and have a good time. Ppl would love to watch movies like top gun maverick rather than some politically divisive big budget movie.
Anyway, my point is movies shouldn’t decide to make a conclusive statement for its audience, It should make us think instead and come to ur own conclusions. Also not every msg has to political either. We saw how fight club covers some themes regarding men’s loneliness while appealing to both political sides.
@@chrisjfox8715 I don't know why, but I can't see @orange_penis comment, but I will lay out what I consider to be pandering.
Although art is subjective, if in the end, the art that is produced it's complete trash, and the only thing left is the political message, and the artist and his defenders start addressing every critic to it as an attack on that political message, then the only thing going on with it is pandering.
That's my critic with the "pandering situation". I completely understand that you could produce the best piece of art possible, with a strong political message, and it wouldn't matter for the base dwellers that you find online. Those people are idiots, and total scum, and listen to Kid Rock, their opinion doesn't matter. But for many other people, that really have good taste, if the art that is presented it's absolute garbage, am I forced to embrace it and promote it, just because I agree with that "political message"? That's pure laziness from an artistic point and total pandering, in my eyes.
the editing on the intro was amazing 😂
Obamna 😔
That intro was everything man 🤣🤣
My dad put me onto metallica in my youth (my middle name is Lars I had no fucking chance) and they remain beloved to me to this day and inspired me to take up music, which in turn keeps me looking for newer shit. Cheers dad.
Are you me?
@@lsdxm bröther?
The best part is when he's discussing Dave Matthews and there's like a PragerU educational music track playing in the background
You can tell a person just doesn't understand art or its purpose when they say it shouldn't be political.
I think hes say fantano shouldnt be so political
@@fourtyseven47572I don’t know how people are failing to understand this. They’re not complaining about politics in music, they’re complaining about Fantano being political. Can people not read anymore?
@@fourtyseven47572But how can you dive into and review political art without being political sometimes?
@@nou1186 he probably made that comment in reference to Fantanos Oliver Anthony video where Fantano was pretty off the mark
@@fourtyseven47572 You prompted me to watch both of Fantano's Oliver Anthony videos, and I think that he gave a very level assessment discussing where Rich Men North of Richmond lands in the current musical and political melee.
I fail to see where Fantano was off the mark, unless you mean that he pinned OA as a right wing artist based on his (perhaps naive) use of right wing tropes, instead of supposing (and eventually realizing) that he is instead a somewhat uninformed political agnostic who didn't quite grasp how his lyrics might be interpreted and appropriated.
I think that even OA, who appears to be a nice, genuine, well-intentioned guy has had to backtrack and explain some of his lyrics after discovering how they were interpreted and misrepresented his ideas, so it's hard to fault critics for originally critiquing those lyrics at face value.
I follow a country music news page and someone posted a comment saying that 99% of political songs are trash, and the examples given were “try that in a small town” by Jason Aldean and “cancel” by randy houser. And it’s like yeah, if all the political songs you listen to are made by 40 year old conservative millionaires, then obviously they’re gonna suck. Turn on some Woody Guthrie and it’s a different story. Some of the best songs of all time are political country songs.
That guy's comparison of the Black Eyed Peas to Carly Rae Jepsen is haunting me. Gotta be the sraightest man alive saying that lmao
I hate when artists get 'political'
>Black
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Anthony please make these let’s argue videos more often
The first person was talking about you personally. The New CALassic had a clear agenda
It's up there with Rage Against The Machine's debut and Gil Scott-Heron in terms of blistering social commentary. It was so controversial and shocking when it came out but some statements need to be made, and its themes of revolution and the need for social progress have only gotten more relevant.
Whenever the politics out of music comes out I can smell the Ben Shapiro UA-cam algo
Please don't encourage Ben shapiro.
Haha....remember when those weenbags like Shapiro were all like "Hyuck...conserativism is the new punk rock we so special".....
oh my gosh I almost forgot about the DMB poop bus and I'm so glad you reminded me!!
“Don’t put politics into music” is such a smoothbrain take to me. Like even ignoring the inherently political nature of all art, the idea that you can never directly address openly political topics in an entire medium of art is absurd, and a lot of the best music ever made is extremely openly political. This is the kind of take that comes from someone who lives very comfortably in a bubble and they don’t like when art they are exposed to challenges that bubble. It’s a very “feminism is ruining Hollywood” kind of thought process.
In my experience, my dad aligns more with my own tastes roughly, but he also has such a limited range whereas my mom has a much wider pallet, as wide as mine.
That final segment giving off thatistheplan energy, you unironically love to see it
That intro was truly a “holy moly” moment
Music is part of pop culture and therefore should reflect people’s experiences in a very political world
Politics is to complicated for people that dont understand the world! politics is life it's in everything we do from work to laws to rights people rather put head in the sand
this may be the single best video intro i have ever seen, holy molly
Loving these new cold opens
"Art shouldn't be political," the chud asserts. "That's why Bioshock was so great."
I have no issue with politics in music, some of the best bands out there have a lot of political themes. But there's a difference between politics with SOAD and politics with say Tom Macdonald. One is doing it in a creative medium and one makes me roll my eyes and just comes off as obnoxious
To each their own, there are genuinely people, though with good intentions embrace the messages, one you might call sauced up white boy.
But they are not one bit less relevant, even if its annoying to some
Tom Macdonald probably thinks he's the modern, edgier equivalent to Eminem, but really he just spits brain dead shock value takes we've all been sick of for years now
But that’s subjective tho. If u were a right winger(more of a far right prolly) then You would find Tom Macdonald to be entertaining and somewhat creative while roll off ur eyes when any song from noname came on the radio.
@@orange_penis that's because he panders to that audience. At this point he's such a meme that it's hard to say if he even believes his own words. I believe he does, but still, he panders to the far right for little more than shock value. He's like a really shitty Eminem, which is what I think he's going for
this video was flames from start to finish. as a chicago resident i just KNEW how this was gonna end as soon as i heard DMB
The Black Eyed Peas have one song I like its called "Anxiety" its a collab with Papa Roach and it came out in 2003, the only thing I know about this and how it relates to the group at the time is that it was before "Boom Boom Pow" and "I Gotta Feeling" the former seemed like baby's first hip hop at the time in my school, the latter seemed like the theme song for the most insufferable hockey jocks (this is in Canada btw).
All that aside I heard "Anxiety" on the soundtrack for MX vs ATV Unleashed, which features other dated though I don't know that I mean that in a bad way, hits such as "Cold" by Crossfade, "Becuase Of You" by Nickelback, "Stronger" by trustcompany, "Revolution" by Authority Zero, Papa Roach credited again with "Getting Away With Murder", "Give It All" Rise Against, "Fly From The Inside" Shinedown, "Let's Ride" Kottonmouth Kings, "Magnetic Mic Control" Phunk Junkeez. So kind of Nu-metal with some hip hop sprinkled in.
Anyways, all that said its a song I've listened to a good bit ripping fake dirt bikes around fake stadiums but I think its a good one. One of those drum grooves that leans on the space between hits, I like the flow, Papa Roach does just enough to make their presence known but not completely take it over.
Monkey Business and Elephunk by BEP will hold a special place in my heart forever; doesn't need to be super high brow stuff to be enjoyable
I agree but monkey business didn't need to be over an hour long
Both of my parents have excellent taste in music, but listen to totally different things. My mom loves hip hop and metal and my dad is into prog rock etc. They introduced me to so much good shit.
My dad loves country music and seems to think Chester Bennington's suicide is something to laugh about. Needless to say, I blast Linkin Park in the house as loud as I can so he can appreciate good music. And to shut him up.
Amazing editing on this video.
Melon out here cutting promos.
Love it!
Now I wanna see Anthony ad a wrestling manager
Saddest thing about the Black Eyed Peas is they always have a good beat and never choose to showcase Will.I.Am’s talent. Their song Street Livin’ is a perfect example of what they could’ve been without all the corporatization
I liked the BEP's album with Joints N Jams. I first heard it in like the 2nd grade, so must have been like 1997 or 1998, but it kinda stuck with me. Then when I got a little more conscious of what I was consuming, I noticed a real detour in their sound once they brought Fergie into the group. Not my favorite group, but the music was serviceable and I could turn my brain off and just enjoy it wherever I heard it.
I only know about the David Matthews Band tour bus thing because it was brought up in a Funhaus video.
Isn’t all pop music about “trends and aesthetics” of its time?
I agree
That last Zakk Wylde pinch harmonic was Chef's 💋
That Dave Matthews band fact at the end was interesting, i didn’t see that coming… like the tour boat…
Hot take: if Pearl Jam is responsible for Creed, then Rage Against The Machine is responsible for Limp Bizkit. You don’t get to blame one and not the other - and I like RATM.
I mean, as crude and vulgar as they were, Limp Bizkit nowhere near as terrible as Creed lbr
the whole "all art is political" thing is 1., not true (if you want to tell me what the politics of yello's "oh yeah" are then go ahead lol) and 2., insists that politics is the *only* thing that matters or is worth discussing when it comes to art. innovation, technique, rhythm, melody, music theory, tone, timbre, etc all get shoved to the side to focus on the lyrics and what the artist may or may not mean. viewing all art as Political Praxis™ is just as reductive as saying that "all art is religious." I mean, sure, some art is religious but, again, you're ignoring technique, form, theory, etc etc. it's a completely reductive way to look at art.
hmmm, I think you're sorta inventing a position to argue against with your point 2. On the whole I'd say most people who believe that "all art is political" can also discuss those other elements too (like technique, form, etc). You're acting like you can't do both. Nobody is out here saying that because there's a political element to all art you're not allowed to discuss the other elements involved.
I'm not saying you need to agree with the statement "all art is political". Your mileage may vary. But your second point doesn't really make much sense and seems made in bad faith.
Smart guy. Much respect to you! You clearly think for yourself
Oh Yeah's politics are about how the sun is more beautiful than the moon
That was a great argue session 😂
Kaho matsui is an artist I personally discovered organically, one of my 3 fav electronic musicians
Gdamn that tangent on the politial take was long af
Stay mad
he got cocky af. every video i watched recently has a section where he provides some half assed argumention for why he thinks something that he thinks and then he flauntingly says that "no one cares". he provides roasts and memes, not thoughtful analysis (like he used to).
kinda agree
On the industry plant thing, i think some people are ultra obsessed with”organic music” in part because of how music is marketed on tiktok. The way manufactured realness has fucked with our brains.
this intro reminds me of that one legendary macinima webseries someone made in a wwe game about fantano fighting tyler the creator
lmao dave matthews band be wildin
Does the first person even understand what art even is?
Where do you submit let's argue hot takes?
I tried Spellling but I'm not sure I get it. I remember liking awakening, and the wheel from the last album of hers not too long aho. Is that enough to get interested? I dont know. I'm not sure if I'll check out more of her albums; but they're not bad.
Anthony dislikes Tom McDonald and modern Muse so that means he must be a radical centrist.
I can dig political songs as long as they're not blatantly expressing bigotry and the song sounds good.
@@Thelemonlicorice Why would you want to live like an hateful idiot?
Thank you Melon for bringing to my attention that politics exist. I am sure going to have an in depth conversation about this at the dinner table tonight!
Ryan went crazy with this editing 🔥
Both my parents had great taste in music, i was always surprised how much i liked the stuff that they would play