I love how you do everything right for what a viewer wants to know instead of what the algorithms wants you to do to get views... I love every video how you give a summary at the start. Thank you again.
Another great and honest review, calm collected, to the point. Always look forward to your review with regards to sound devices and sound related. Like a benchmark for sound review. Thanks Curtis. Keep up the great work. Really appreciate it. Btw been watching your reviews for years now !
Issues I've come across: 1. The record button on transmitter can be too easily activated. This could mean recordings stop (if they are set to manual) or will split (if set to Always Record) if your client accidentally touches it. There really needs to be a way to disable the button 2. The units automatically turn on when taken out of the charging case. This is annoying if set to "Always Record" as it'll create a file when you might just be taking them out to use later (or just checking them). If you don't spot that recording has started and return it to the case, it'll just keep recording. 3. Nasty popping sound at the beginning of every recording 4. Rode Central doesn't keep any renamed files on export, it will revert to the original name
If you were livestreaming an event in a room anywhere from 10 to say 500 people, using Hollyland Cosmo C1s as the video transmitters, how likely would the chances of the audio dropping or being choppy be on a scale of 1-10 do you think? Is there a better microphone option?
Hi Curtis, great video, as usual. Is this kind of mic ever worth plugging into a recorder, like a Zoom F4? I usually work with a shotgun boom in addition to lavs, but apart from getting a consolidated output, would a recorder improve the lavs' preamps in any way?
Loved this video. Im struggling to find more information in regards to the latest firmware update that includes High Pass Filter. Is there any information you could provide with that?! Thank you!
Curtis, is it just me or does the Rode Wireless Pro....sound inferior to the Hollyland Lark Max? I say this because I am listening to the samples on my Sennheiser HD 560S, a fairly neutral headphone itself, and Hollyland Lark Max seems to have more of the high end coming through, feels more lively. Rode wireless pro in comparison, uh, feels suppressed on the high end. Yes I know EQ can fix it, but Hollyland Lark Max is bafflingly good out of the box for a lesser price than this.
I’m gonna pick it up, 32bit will help with save my vlog audio when it clips. I often record in noisy environments, so I have to raise my voice a lot. I did have to return my Wireless GO II twice because of bad battery, and then buttons not working on the next unit. Hope this one is a bit better made. Thanks for the great review.
I had a bad battery on the original Wireless Go and they repaired it for me free of charge even though I already had the device for several years and was out of warranty. At least they have good customer service.
Timecode pro tipp: you can’t jam from another timecode device into the rode. But you can jam from the rode to tentacle sync and then using the tentacle sync app you can sync other tentacle sync suits including the track e. Most reviewers are missing this part when talking about timecode. A multicam with timecode workflow needs multiple cameras with an actual timecode generators attached. So rode jamming into a tentacle sync will be the solution. My work is weddings
This is true and a great way to do it for a shoot that only needs 2 mics. Would be great to have the Rode units accept time code in so you can do more microphones. Alternatively, if they can use the app to sync multiple receivers together (similar to how tentacle can sync their devices via the app). This would allow 4 or even 6 mics with sync. Another thing that people don't talk about is that the timecode on the internal recordings is in the Metadata of the files. With the Sony cameras that accept timecode, that is also in the Metadata which make it incredibly easy to sync. When you record the timecode via audio it goes into an audio channel and then it gets handled differently. Getting the audio timecode into Metadata timecode involves more steps.
Great review, as always. I pre-ordered mine a few weeks ago and just got it yesterday. What amazes me most is what you get for the price. I paid over $230 for a single 32-bit float lav mic recorder (a Zoom F2 with Bluetooth), and it wasn't even wireless. But this includes TWO 32-bit recorders and TWO high end mics, for less than half the price. Everything else is a major bonus.
@@rAustinBall Let's do the math. Yes, I paid $230 for ONE Zoom F2. You get TWO 32-Bit recorders with this, so that's worth $460. A RODE Lavalier II costs $99 each. They give you TWO of those in this kit. That's another $200 of value in the box. So far, we're at $660 of value. They magnetic mounts which cost about $30 or so each, not to mention the two cases, etc.. Remember, I only mentioned comparing the TWO 32-bit recorders to another 32-bit recorder. My Zoom F2 isn't wireless. So, as you may guess, I won't be using my Zoom as a body pack any longer.
My guy, great review. If it wasn't for the UX / UI being so damn unfriendly I would upgrade all my kits immediately. Rode went too pro and a lot of these combinations go way over peoples heads to the point of memorizing button sequences just to do normal stuff, stuff that takes time away from focusing at the job at hand. While I admit they delivered everything i wanted, they did not fix the biggest flaw, the menu. Will wait a few months for the Chinese brands to follow suit with better way to navigate the tools. Though doubtful they will nail the low noise floor and the accuracy of the timecode as well.
This right here is exactly why I won't upgrade to these either. DJI mic is just so much more intuitive with the simple touch screen menu for everything, no app needed! So I'll just wait for the inevitable DJI mic V2 with 32 bit float.
Outstanding job as usual. I cannot imagine laying down hard earned money on audio gear without seeing your review first. I don't know why I'm even watching this one tho, I'm happy enough with my Hollyland Lark 150 and I can't afford these.
I know the video has been uploaded since 3 months but I hope there will be an answer, Today I use the lav mic sennheiser me2 + rode wireless go ME I am thinking about upgrading all this system to Rode wireless PRO, my main question is: is the the rode wireless lav mic pro better or equivalent to senneheiser me2? The main reason of my change is : - My voice is not rich on the wireless go + a lot of time I had issues with the transmitter (shutting down without any notice) etc … Have a good day
I didn’t specifically compare the ME2 and Wireless PRO mics. But my sense is that I prefer the Wireless PRO’s mic. HOWEVER, neither of them sound great without some EQ in post to my ear.
Hello, Thanks for the answer. I have made the switch and the Wireless Pro Lav mic sounds awesome (with EQ in post) and the 32 bit is heaven @@curtisjudd
For luck from next Year it’s no more allowed in EU, because the laws say for any of such devices it must be easy to change rechargeable standard batteries without service. So I guess next year comes a very new design with improvements of the cons. Next year means end of next your this device is very old…
I've enjoyed your channel for the reviews of the lavalier microphones, so this video left me a little dissapointed as you reviewed this lavalier system with barely a comment on the quality of the sound of these mics. You say at the end that they were surprisingly good, and then you spent a lot of time talking about the build quality. Where does that put someone like me who really cares about sound? How do these compare to some of your favorite lavs - say the Sennheiser MKE2 for instance?
You have influenced so many of my decisions. Might as well ask you more questions Should I by a house? Should we have children? What are the lotto numbers? Paper or plastic? 😂😂Haha
Help!!!! When I record for some reason it sounds really low and I have to adjust when editing. So when I go live it’s so low others almost can’t help me. Common problem with this system. Please help thx
Great video Curtis, thanks for sharing. I was excited to see you using DaVinci Resolve, nice choice. 😜. While all of the smaller microphone systems are pretty nice, I do run into interference issues at very random times with the systems I’ve tried. For me, I feel like it makes them a little unreliable If I really need to make sure I capture the audio. It’s nice that this device will capture the audio on the device itself just in case the signal drops. Thanks again for a great video! 👍
Terrific review Curtis - thank you for doing it. They seem like a solid product. I'm curious about using them with better lavalier mics - COS-11D and Countryman B6? Do you think the audio quality would improve? Is that something you're planning to test out? Many thanks again.
@@curtisjudd Oh my! Just the comment I was looking for. A video on this sound quality comparison would get a lot of attention. Add in another couple lavs and wo! I mean it surprises me that the only sound comparisons you ever see of the Rode Wireless Pro are with other things like the DJI. And everyone is so obsessed with transmission range, when for most of us, that is such a minor (if ever used) feature. We shoot in bars or large rooms with a number of people and booming is impossible in wide cuts etc. So sound quality is a very very big deal.
Definitely seems like a great value in this space. I'm wondering if it provides plug-in power and can be used with a COS-11D or Countryman B6 or similar with the right adapter?
I read somewhere that the audio captured on the transmitter is better quality or has some feature the transmitter to camera lacks? Also, it's a pity the only option is the entire pack because I would like to be able to buy a Rode Wireless Pro transmitter only and just use the buttons to set it off then upload the voice audio to my video editor to sync with my video. That way I could spend £100 here in the UK instead of £370.
So why would anyone ever bother with the receiver? I don't get it. Using a receiver gives a danger of losing signal and having broken audio and you lose the 32-bit float Surely it's just better to use the audio from the transmitters and sync it up in editing? What benefit does the receiver confer other than splicing the audio with the video in real time and saving the sync job in the video editing software? I emailed Rode yesterday to ask if I could just by one single Pro transmitter as that's all I need and they got back to me saying they don't offer than but they offer the Rode II one as a stand alone transmitter for that purpose. The only thing I would really need other than one transmitter would be some attachments and maybe a lav. Pity they don't have an a la carte system. @@curtisjudd
@@NR-rv8rz One MASSIVE benefit of transmitting the sound to the receiver is that the camera operator or sound person can monitor the sound in real-time. This allows you to identify any issues with the sound - clothing rustle or perhaps the transmitter battery has run out or something else has happened. This is a HUGE advantage so that you don't lose an entire shoot because the audio was not good. If you hear there's a problem WHILE recording, you can often stop and fix the issue and then start the recording again.
Thanks, it makes sense in general. However, I'm gonna be a lone wolf so I'll be using a shotgun mic at home for filming stationary with a Sony ZV-1, but when I do some talks walking around my apartment, cooking in the kitchen and going hill walked and talking to the camera, I'll be using my phone on a hand held gimble/tripod. I'll address the phones 4k camera while I walk and sometimes set the gimble down and be stationary and talk. In that scenario, I'll always use the phones audio capture as a backup and as I've decided to by the whole Rode Wireless Pro kit, I'll probably have both transmitters recording for redundancy. I mean, now I think of that, I might as well plug the receiver into the phone instead of using the phone mic. Also, I'm planning to get either the Hohem iSteady M6 or the DJI Osmo Mobile 6 gimble. I think I prefer the Hohem one but it doesn't telescope out like the DJI. The DJI has a weight limit almost identicle to the weight of my Sony ZV-1 so I'm wondering if I can get away with using that with the DJI gimble. The Hohem gimble has a far higher weight limit at 400g so could easily bear the ZV-1 weight. If neither can then I'll have to just use my phone when I'm out and about. To be honest, I'm currently doing tests with my old Pixel 3XL 4k capture in outside daylight and the ZV-1 and I don't have that great an eye because I can't see a massive advantage to the ZV-1 footage. Thought it was very overcast and dark in Yorkshire, UK today so will be sunny tomorrow and I'll try again. I will also do the capture in portrait mode on both so that I can display the video side by side on the same monitor because my three monitor setup isn't colour calibrated so I can't use different monitors simultaneously to compare. Thanks for engaging. @@curtisjudd
When mine arrives. Still waiting. That's the thing about DEITY, they often announce WAY ahead of when they actually ship the product. I don't want to review a pre-production product so I put in a pre-order and am waiting for that.
Wonderful review, as always! Shoutout to Rode for putting locking connectors for their lavs on the Wireless Pro, I didn't catch if that was mentioned. Pretty sure the Wireless GO 2 doesn't have them. For what they are, they seem pretty great. I think the biggest design shortcoming is not having any kind way of bringing in multiple sets to the same timecode. I'd love to use these for very casual round-tables without even breaking out a Rodecaster, but without being able to jam them to a common timecode, that would be a bit of a pain to sync. Granted, with the accurate clock I'd probably just have to sync the recordings once and not have to correct for drift. Maybe. But it just feels like _so close_ to ideal, it's a pity. Edit: Yeah, I know I could probably run Time of Day. But even if you sync it to the same PC with the app, you're probably not going to get frame-accurate syncs for several sets.
Thank you Curtis. I've learned so much from your videos through the years-and continue to. I wonder if the definition of "Pro" is changing/evolving. When I started in video production 13ish years ago, Pro meant something that feels very different from what it means today. Today i think of Pro gear as being something that will give me an extra competitive edge in terms of being able to make money from video production. As someone who owns the Wireless Go, Wireless Go II, and now the Wireless Pro, I do feel it offers a feature set and level of quality that the other two didn’t-even though I liked them as well. But I never felt confident with either of those first two iterations as my only audio on a shoot, whereas I would with the Pro (not that I would prefer it, but I would feel confident enough).
Curtis, great video. Where did you have your lav mounted for this video? Was it on the front of your shirt (lower and out of frame), or did you have it under your shirt?
New to the channel. I really like that you review and talk about so many different types of equipment and price ranges. I also like that you keep your opinions professional and courteous and place emphasis on using what you have access to and going out and recording sound. Thanks for taking the time to share with us!
I've come across your channel in the past and always had a great experience. Today you earned a sub (or rather, I was bothered to click it!). Fantastic review. you have a wonderful tone and very relaxing disposition. Thank you for this review. Extremely professional. Surgical precision with your edits. A true pro.
Great review, as always👍👍👍 I understood very well one thing after two wireless go 2 sets died on me (3,5 mm. jack on receiver after 1 year of medium use, 1 transmitter after 1 year and two months and transmitter from another pair - after 6 months during software update): these things are just useful toys. Some my colleagues have the same problems.
Hi Curtis, great breakdown. I'm currently looking to upgrade from my zoom H1n and rode mic recorder. I do a lot of documentary talking head videos, and I'm in between the Sennheiser AVX MKE2 Mic setup and the Rode Pro. The 32 bit float seems pretty huge, not to mention the price difference of 600 USD between them. Is the Sennheiser worth the extra money? If you didn't have either of them, all things considered for documentary work which one would you go with? Thanks again!
@@curtisjudd aren't they both susceptible to dropouts since they both rely on line of sight with their wifi based signals? Is 1.9ghz that much more reliable than 2.4ghz? Would love your thoughts. I guess I'm hesitant to pay 1000 USD for the Sennheiser and still have reliability issues. Thanks so much Curtis love your content!
@@Videosbyme278 Wireless systems are always susceptible to dropouts, even high-end UHF systems where you can tune to different frequencies. If you must have one that is simple to setup and doesn't require finding a frequency and you'll be working primarily indoors, I found the AVX to be very good. 1.9GHz generally has less competing traffic from devices in 2023 so that's part of my thinking. Then the audio quality of the AVX system was excellent in my tests.
@@curtisjudd Thanks for the info Curtis, however, majority of my interview work is outdoors in the field. I don't typically get too far away from my subjects, think the AVX is still the way to go or something more like the g4s/Sony UWP? I definitely love the form factor of the AVX the most
Which device has the best recorded sound quality, the Tascam DR-10 L Pro or the Rode Wireless Pro (with the included lavalier mics)? Which device has the best recorded sound quality, the Tascam DR-10 L Pro or the Zoom F2 (with the included lavalier mics)? Thank you…
Thank you Curtis for the very good review. When I look at the graph at 4:20 and 16:48 I think that despite 32 bit, the audio is still clipped. Was the maximum SPL of the microphone exceeded or was there some other reason?
I’m sure there were a very small portion of some clipped waveforms but still would be far better than 24bit. Given the massive dynamic range of 32 bit float (I’m sure I recall seeing 700+dB) the mic is inevitably the limiting factor.
It's funny how this kit is 100EUR cheaper than the combination Wireless Go II + 2x Lavalier Go II + charging case. The main photo on most websites does not show these extra's, so it might be confusing for some. Going for Wireless Pro is a no-brainer!
So just to be clear ( very big newbie here ) I run Rode Go2's and run my receiver into iphone14pro. Im having clipping issues so considering the PRO's but with pros when i record directly into iphone i only get 24 bit UNLESS i export and separately add 32 bit audio file ? Cheers for you videos btw, well laid out 👌
Hi Curtis, I've recently picked up a rode wireless pro and tried to use my Sennheiser MKE2 with it. For some reason the MKE2 requires an enormous amount of gain from the camera and\or TX to function at a reasonable level and is therefore suffering from having a lot more signal noise. Not sure if the output voltage from the TX is enough to get the best out of the mic. Even when pulling the 32 bit float audio using the Sennheiser MKE2 I can still notice a lot of hiss. Your videos are the best, Keep it up! I always come to you first for audio advice and product reviews.
This is a BUY for me now. I were on the fence but timecode clensed it. I'm on DSLR and using Resolve Studio so it's a nice fit. I have good expirences with Røde gear and live in a country where we actually have that funky vowel in our language. :-)
Hi Curtis..... Tell me please, does it have support for sound input (HIGH GAIN) other than the lavalier microphone. I would need to transmit sound from a audiomixer via the headphone jack of the mixer to reciever In the old Wirelles go model (which I own), the input must be controlled and supports only very very low gain. There is a change in the new model, it supports sound input ??..... PS: I also have a DJI MIC, I can enter with sound, high gain, it automatically recognizes and does not distort, I do not use it because it interferes with the bluetooth of the camera.. Thank you.
Fantastic review as always! 💚 Wondering, since I have not been able to tell from the spec sheet, does this pro model support port pro lavalier mics that require more voltage? Such as the DPA 4060 which needs a plug-in operating voltage of 5v to 10v 🤔🎙️
I take it Rode either licensed this tech or simply doesn't care about the patent troll? Based on previous videos, I understood that someone somewhere held a patent that kept most of these manufacturers from adventuring into recording/wireless combo territory.
The Patents are held by Zaxcom and my understanding is that the patent specifically covers recording to removable media. That MIGHT be why Zaxcom hasn’t sued RODE. Another possibility is that since the Wireless Pro is not used by the same people who use Zaxcom wireless, Zaxcom hasn’t bothered to sue RODE. But these are just guesses.
Sounds a bit muffled to me - is that the lav? Are you recording with lav under shirt? Can you adjust for that in post? Could you use a different mic with this that has adjustment for under clothing? I’ve heard that some lavs have interference issues with the rose
I've never used a lavalier on my voice that didn't sound somewhat colored like this. The question is whether it can be EQed and the answer is that the include RODE lavalier does EQ pretty nicely.
Thank you, Curtis. I second that with the battery situation. I work a lot outdoors and in Norway in winter … I’ve gone through 2 sets already in the last 2 years and it annoys me a lot that I don’t have an alternative, bar from plugging in small travel banks or direct on the camera ext pwr. I was also confused , and excited, when I saw that the wireless 2 could export float … when my sound guy told me it wasn’t … I was confused. Also the buttons Menu system is also all over the place. I would like to see a wireless or Bluetooth connection to adjust on an app on the go when out on the field. Having to pull out the laptop isn’t convenient to adjust settings. So I would agree to have a more streamlined adjustment process would be better. However, this is nit picking when you get decent value for money here. Love you rode. Cheers, Curtis! 🎉
Great review; I'm also asking RODE to allow configuration via the software for a "God mode" ability to disable the buttons on the transmitters from stopping recordings, which would function like the lock switch (that by now, can't be added as hardware) on other 32-bit float lav recorders. Agree completely about the mirror finish, though at least the logo receded a bit from stark white into subtlety.
Pico Mics are way more functional and have wireless monitoring so no need for 32bit although I do like it. No one reviews Pico due to Rode and large companies sending hundred of theses to UA-cam reviewers, they are great mics but for run&gun there are better options for the same price
I reviewed the original PicoMic and it was pretty good except the microphones sounded pretty awful to my ears. Perhaps the newer version sounds better.
Purchased the Rode Wireless Pro, turned it on & the audio levels are low. It's usually fine when I play it back on my Iphone 14 pro max but, when I try to use Davinci Resolve to play it back, it's so low it's comical. I shoot primarily on my Iphone 14 pro max using the Filmic Pro app(not planning on using mirrorless cams anytime soon)but, when monitoring audio, I can barely get the audio bar in Filmic to yellow, let alone red. It usually peaks around green no matter how loud I'm talking, I've heard ideally I want it around -10/-6db. I've downloaded the Rode Capture & Reporter to increase the TXs gains, didn't help. What exactly could I be missing here. Firmware on all devices are up to date. I've tried gain assist on or manual (30db/max) & when I record, it's a bit louder but, audio still extremely low in in my DResolve timeline. The TXs High pass in Rode Central is off by default then, there's still option to set it at 75 or 100, what do you advice? Secondly, I heard to increase the gain if I try recording internally using that 32-bit float, all I have to do is just raise it in any editing program, is this enough or one still needs to do some other magic? like messing with EQs, compression, limiter etc in audacity?
Sounds like you need to increase the input gain (separate from the RX output gain). I’d set the high pass to 75Hz in most cases, only to 100 if there’s a lot of wind and I’m willing to sacrifice some bass response to avoid wind distortion.
@@curtisjudd Thanks Judd, that was exactly what I did(input gains). I watched your audacity video a century ago where you showed EQ, noise reduction, compression, normalize, limiter, filter etc settings that I still use till this day. Do you still recommend using EQ or you just leave the Wireless Pro's audio the way it is? if no, what would it look like for the Wireless Pro? Do you still do it in Audacity or you just do it in Davinci Resolve anyways, whichever one you use, what exactly do you tweak to get even cleaner audio?
@@Sir-Kay No Audacity for me these days. I'm in DaVinci Resolve and iZotope RX most of the time these days. Here's how I use EQ: ua-cam.com/video/Jn6iB1SNvRQ/v-deo.html The biggest thing is to get rid of any noise in the space where I record first and only use noise reduction in post if I absolutely must.
Same thing happened to me recording a Pod Cast. I had one subject with no audio, same issue with the mic connector, I thought it was securely locked but it came off and the audio wasn’t captured:
lovely but once bitten twice shy - wireless iis - batteries - charging - longevity - reset bricking - and the waste bin..... an expensive lesson - but once bitten twice shy.........
Hey Chris ! Thanks a ton for the review ! Any idea whether it works with pro mics that require a bit of phantom power ? I was particularly thinking of DPA 4088 (as well as their other mics). I love the idea of "everything in a little box" but I find it hard to switch mics from DPA sound (for my voice).
Thanks for the review. But what if the battery dies after some years of use? can spares by ordered from Rode or would that be the RIP of the Wireless pro?
Inability to receive time code, transmission distance, lav quality, lack of battery replacement, I’ve decided: tentacle syncs it is. Thank you kindly for all the detailed information Curtis.
Isn't it great to see DJI and Rode 'encouraging' each other to raise the bar? There are weaknesses to capitalism, but consumers end up being the real winners.
The Audio Time Code looks something like this: 00:00:00:00000 - 6.3 Milliseconds would be 00:00:00:00630 ??? Thank you for your fantastic tutorials and reviews.
Hello. I have found this channel by luck and love it. Can you please advise if you can 'recover' audio in 32bit within Premier Pro? I have just been doing some tests and I'm still clipping massively and can't seem to get the results other people and yourself have. I would appreciate your help. Thanks.
Less “Pro” than the Sony system. 2.4GHz systems are convenient and generally really easy to use, but 2.4GHz systems sometimes simply cannot compete with other wireless activity in the area and cannot penetrate walls and doors as well as UHF systems like the Sony.
Am i able to record separetly from the trasnmitters and not needing to use the reciever so kinda use it like 2 tascam dr-10L? Just record into transmitter without using any reciver or connecting it to anything?
Thanks for the review Curtis! I have a question and would appreciate your advice. If we use the same good quality mic like Sanken cos11 on Rode wireless pro and Sennheiser G4, is the sound quality gonna be a really noticeable difference? I’ve been thinking about buying a wireless system and I’m just wondering if the price difference between these two worth it and should I buy G4 instead?
I don’t have a G4 on hand to test that, but my general experience has been that mics make a bigger impact on sound quality than pre-amps (unless using really cheap preamps/wireless systems)
I work for a call center, remote, from home, and my surroundings are very quiet usually. I would like a lapel style mic for my call center job and am considering this one. What do you thing? Will that work out well for this purpose?
@@curtisjudd Yes and yes. I plan to use TRN BT20S PRO wireless 5.3 bluetooth adapters with Truthear Hexa IEMs in my ears (in ear monitors). Then the Rode clipped to my shirt, possibly will use the wired directional microphone also. This system SHOULD work according to my thesis. I also plan to merge the audio from my work pc and my personal pc into one audio source which will go to the IEMs in my ears. But the Rode mic will only be attached to my work PC without mixed audio signal. Sounds complicated but it should work, I think.
Hi, fist of all thank you for the very nice in deep review! I just got my pair of wireless pro but honestly I'm kinda disappointed by the background noise. I tried to normalize my dialogue (on an internal recording) at -23 lufs too but i get a costant background noise of -35 dB during the silences (even when the microphone is covered, looks like it's electrical noise). Have you recorded this video with the rode wireless pro? Because on your test the noise was lower but in this whole video i can hear a background noise like mine that I'm note hearing on other creators review of this microphone🥲
This entire video was recorded with the Wireless PRO, yes. In the tests, I turned off all lights with fans, but during the rest, there was a light with a fan.
Hello Curtis, is worth the effort quality wise, to replace the audio from the video of the receiver, (profited there is no dropout or interference) with the internal 32bit recording in post?
Also, 32-bit float audio recordings do NOT sound better, they just potentially have more headroom in case things get louder than expected. So you're not getting more fidelity from the 32-bit float recording on the transmitter.
Already own a Zoom F3 (w/BT module) and two Shure MX185 lavs, which I use for an outdoor podcast recorded while walking. Since used F3s are going for about 250 these days, was wondering if you think I might be better off just picking up a second F3, having each podcast participant wear one (w/separate wired lav), and syncing the tracks in post, vs investing 400 bucks in the Rode Wireless Pro. Wondering which setup might be more reliable and produce better overall sound. Also wondering if the preamps on the RWP system are as good/quiet as the F3's. Thoughts? Thanks much for all the time you invest in your vids. Super helpful. Easily some of the best and most reliable info on the Web. Blessings.
@@curtisjudd Apparently it's this: "Pad stands for Passive Attenuation Device and is used in microphones to avoid loud audio causing distortion. Basically, a Pad reduces the gain by a set amount of dB. So, if you find that no matter how low you set the gain the audio is still going over 0dB, then switching on the Pad should fix it." And apparently it causes noise in lots of cases.
@@curtisjudd Thanks, was thiking the same for the Rf, but i seem to remember someone plugging their shotgun mic into a rode wireless go 2, where thei said the rf wasnt so bad, so im hoping its the same with the Pro
just sold my two sets of wireless go II...and finally got the first-round wireless go pro...thanks for the testing and now that's my turn to try them out.
hi there. well, I actually have no idea how could DJI mic2 perform since I dont have them. But when it comes to Rode Wireless Go Pro..yeah, I can be sure that they just work well with my projects mostly used by teachers. Besides, I think that DJI mic2 might fix those lag problems to work better than the previous version. You know what, the biggest reason for me to give up DJI mic is that the receiver can not be mounted well on cold shoes...no matter what kind of shoes...they just dont work...always slip away...never happen with rode...so...@@psysword
I love how you do everything right for what a viewer wants to know instead of what the algorithms wants you to do to get views... I love every video how you give a summary at the start. Thank you again.
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Thanks for the great work @curtisjudd
Did you happen to test how long the case takes to charge a receiver/transmitter back to full after it dies?
@@LudwickMa Sorry, no, I didn't specifically time it. 😔
The ultimate review! I've been waiting for this since this wireless system came out.
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Man, I've been waiting for you to review this! I didn't want to purchase until I heard what the G.O.A.T. had to say about it! Thanks, Curtis!
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Wonderful indepth review!! This is why I watch your videos! Keep going!
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Was not going to buy until you reviewed; looking forward to this review, thank you for all your work Sir!
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Another great and honest review, calm collected, to the point. Always look forward to your review with regards to sound devices and sound related. Like a benchmark for sound review. Thanks Curtis. Keep up the great work. Really appreciate it. Btw been watching your reviews for years now !
Thanks so much!
@@curtisjudd how do you manage to get such great sound for your video ? Do you have a video on that ? Tq
@@AT-js6py We have a bunch of videos covering that on the channel and several courses over at school.learnlightandsound.com
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I think you've answered every single question I had. Great video and thanks for sharing
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Issues I've come across:
1. The record button on transmitter can be too easily activated. This could mean recordings stop (if they are set to manual) or will split (if set to Always Record) if your client accidentally touches it. There really needs to be a way to disable the button
2. The units automatically turn on when taken out of the charging case. This is annoying if set to "Always Record" as it'll create a file when you might just be taking them out to use later (or just checking them). If you don't spot that recording has started and return it to the case, it'll just keep recording.
3. Nasty popping sound at the beginning of every recording
4. Rode Central doesn't keep any renamed files on export, it will revert to the original name
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Great job as always Curtis. Thank you.
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Excellent run down Curtis 😎
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Exellent review. Very helpful.
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Nice product. Great review as always.
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At bild expo I was told a firmware update will enable for these to be jam-synced to external timecode boxes
Cool. Excited to see that.
If you were livestreaming an event in a room anywhere from 10 to say 500 people, using Hollyland Cosmo C1s as the video transmitters, how likely would the chances of the audio dropping or being choppy be on a scale of 1-10 do you think? Is there a better microphone option?
I’d say there’s an 8/10 chance, mainly because of all the peoples phones and WiFi.
Hi Curtis, great video, as usual. Is this kind of mic ever worth plugging into a recorder, like a Zoom F4? I usually work with a shotgun boom in addition to lavs, but apart from getting a consolidated output, would a recorder improve the lavs' preamps in any way?
Only if your camera has particularly noisy preamps.
Loved this video. Im struggling to find more information in regards to the latest firmware update that includes High Pass Filter. Is there any information you could provide with that?! Thank you!
I have version 1.2.8 installed. What are you looking to learn?
can you split the audio at the reciever to go into different inputs on the camera?
Yes
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are the mics dynamic or condenser? do they pick up a lot of bg noise?
Condenser, Omni-directional like 99.9% of lavalier mics. Wearing it on the body helps eliminate some of the noise behind the person wearing it.
Thank you!! Good point!
Curtis, is it just me or does the Rode Wireless Pro....sound inferior to the Hollyland Lark Max? I say this because I am listening to the samples on my Sennheiser HD 560S, a fairly neutral headphone itself, and Hollyland Lark Max seems to have more of the high end coming through, feels more lively. Rode wireless pro in comparison, uh, feels suppressed on the high end. Yes I know EQ can fix it, but Hollyland Lark Max is bafflingly good out of the box for a lesser price than this.
If that’s what your ears tell you, then yes! Trust your ears.
I’m gonna pick it up, 32bit will help with save my vlog audio when it clips. I often record in noisy environments, so I have to raise my voice a lot. I did have to return my Wireless GO II twice because of bad battery, and then buttons not working on the next unit. Hope this one is a bit better made. Thanks for the great review.
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I had a bad battery on the original Wireless Go and they repaired it for me free of charge even though I already had the device for several years and was out of warranty. At least they have good customer service.
Timecode pro tipp: you can’t jam from another timecode device into the rode. But you can jam from the rode to tentacle sync and then using the tentacle sync app you can sync other tentacle sync suits including the track e. Most reviewers are missing this part when talking about timecode. A multicam with timecode workflow needs multiple cameras with an actual timecode generators attached. So rode jamming into a tentacle sync will be the solution. My work is weddings
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This is true and a great way to do it for a shoot that only needs 2 mics. Would be great to have the Rode units accept time code in so you can do more microphones. Alternatively, if they can use the app to sync multiple receivers together (similar to how tentacle can sync their devices via the app). This would allow 4 or even 6 mics with sync.
Another thing that people don't talk about is that the timecode on the internal recordings is in the Metadata of the files. With the Sony cameras that accept timecode, that is also in the Metadata which make it incredibly easy to sync. When you record the timecode via audio it goes into an audio channel and then it gets handled differently. Getting the audio timecode into Metadata timecode involves more steps.
Would love it if multiple sets of rodes could at least sync to each other via the app
@@MechaUsagiA recent Rode video hinted that this is probably coming in a firmware update.
Finally, someone who knows what they are talking about and not just another commercial. Thanks!
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They did it again. This thing is big and clumsy
Big? I guess compared to DJI Mic and a few other consumer systems, but small compared to most pro wireless packs.
Great review, as always. I pre-ordered mine a few weeks ago and just got it yesterday. What amazes me most is what you get for the price. I paid over $230 for a single 32-bit float lav mic recorder (a Zoom F2 with Bluetooth), and it wasn't even wireless. But this includes TWO 32-bit recorders and TWO high end mics, for less than half the price. Everything else is a major bonus.
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$399 is not "less than half" $230. I'm not arguing the value proposition just your maths?
@@mondotv4216half of 400 is 200 which is, less than $230 😂
@@rAustinBall Let's do the math. Yes, I paid $230 for ONE Zoom F2. You get TWO 32-Bit recorders with this, so that's worth $460. A RODE Lavalier II costs $99 each. They give you TWO of those in this kit. That's another $200 of value in the box. So far, we're at $660 of value. They magnetic mounts which cost about $30 or so each, not to mention the two cases, etc.. Remember, I only mentioned comparing the TWO 32-bit recorders to another 32-bit recorder. My Zoom F2 isn't wireless. So, as you may guess, I won't be using my Zoom as a body pack any longer.
@@AskJoe I know dude. I was defending you.
My guy, great review. If it wasn't for the UX / UI being so damn unfriendly I would upgrade all my kits immediately. Rode went too pro and a lot of these combinations go way over peoples heads to the point of memorizing button sequences just to do normal stuff, stuff that takes time away from focusing at the job at hand. While I admit they delivered everything i wanted, they did not fix the biggest flaw, the menu. Will wait a few months for the Chinese brands to follow suit with better way to navigate the tools. Though doubtful they will nail the low noise floor and the accuracy of the timecode as well.
This right here is exactly why I won't upgrade to these either. DJI mic is just so much more intuitive with the simple touch screen menu for everything, no app needed! So I'll just wait for the inevitable DJI mic V2 with 32 bit float.
I know - so close... Thanks Josh.
Outstanding job as usual. I cannot imagine laying down hard earned money on audio gear without seeing your review first. I don't know why I'm even watching this one tho, I'm happy enough with my Hollyland Lark 150 and I can't afford these.
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I know the video has been uploaded since 3 months but I hope there will be an answer,
Today I use the lav mic sennheiser me2 + rode wireless go ME
I am thinking about upgrading all this system to Rode wireless PRO, my main question is: is the the rode wireless lav mic pro better or equivalent to senneheiser me2?
The main reason of my change is :
- My voice is not rich on the wireless go + a lot of time I had issues with the transmitter (shutting down without any notice) etc …
Have a good day
I didn’t specifically compare the ME2 and Wireless PRO mics. But my sense is that I prefer the Wireless PRO’s mic. HOWEVER, neither of them sound great without some EQ in post to my ear.
Hello, Thanks for the answer. I have made the switch and the Wireless Pro Lav mic sounds awesome (with EQ in post) and the 32 bit is heaven @@curtisjudd
@@Khormologia That's great news! Happy recording!
For luck from next Year it’s no more allowed in EU, because the laws say for any of such devices it must be easy to change rechargeable standard batteries without service. So I guess next year comes a very new design with improvements of the cons. Next year means end of next your this device is very old…
Good!
Wow I didn't know that. Great news.
I've enjoyed your channel for the reviews of the lavalier microphones, so this video left me a little dissapointed as you reviewed this lavalier system with barely a comment on the quality of the sound of these mics. You say at the end that they were surprisingly good, and then you spent a lot of time talking about the build quality. Where does that put someone like me who really cares about sound? How do these compare to some of your favorite lavs - say the Sennheiser MKE2 for instance?
Quality is one of the best for prosumer wireless.
You have influenced so many of my decisions. Might as well ask you more questions
Should I by a house?
Should we have children?
What are the lotto numbers?
Paper or plastic?
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Yes, up to you, no idea, bring your own bags. LOL!
I was waiting on your impressions before buying. Just placed my order. Thank you for putting in the time to test the new system. Looks great.
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I put like instantly because you don’t care about watch time and you just put all the informations the viewer needs at the beggining. You’re the best
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Help!!!! When I record for some reason it sounds really low and I have to adjust when editing. So when I go live it’s so low others almost can’t help me. Common problem with this system. Please help thx
Great video Curtis, thanks for sharing. I was excited to see you using DaVinci Resolve, nice choice. 😜.
While all of the smaller microphone systems are pretty nice, I do run into interference issues at very random times with the systems I’ve tried. For me, I feel like it makes them a little unreliable If I really need to make sure I capture the audio. It’s nice that this device will capture the audio on the device itself just in case the signal drops. Thanks again for a great video! 👍
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Curtis, thanks for this review. Are Sennheiser ME-2 lavalier's compatible with the Rode Wireless Pro?
I don’t try that but in theory it should work.
Terrific review Curtis - thank you for doing it. They seem like a solid product. I'm curious about using them with better lavalier mics - COS-11D and Countryman B6? Do you think the audio quality would improve? Is that something you're planning to test out? Many thanks again.
I actually found the included RODE Lavalier mic to sound better on my voice than the Sanken COS-11D.
Wow@@curtisjudd that is remarkable. I would never have guessed that.
@@curtisjudd Oh my! Just the comment I was looking for. A video on this sound quality comparison would get a lot of attention. Add in another couple lavs and wo!
I mean it surprises me that the only sound comparisons you ever see of the Rode Wireless Pro are with other things like the DJI. And everyone is so obsessed with transmission range, when for most of us, that is such a minor (if ever used) feature. We shoot in bars or large rooms with a number of people and booming is impossible in wide cuts etc. So sound quality is a very very big deal.
It‘s a shame, that these lavalier clips are so loose. I had to pay 15,90 € each + 6,25 € shipping for a replacement.
Did the new ones work well?
Definitely seems like a great value in this space. I'm wondering if it provides plug-in power and can be used with a COS-11D or Countryman B6 or similar with the right adapter?
Probably works for those that don’t need more than 5V, but I’d need to test.
I read somewhere that the audio captured on the transmitter is better quality or has some feature the transmitter to camera lacks?
Also, it's a pity the only option is the entire pack because I would like to be able to buy a Rode Wireless Pro transmitter only and just use the buttons to set it off then upload the voice audio to my video editor to sync with my video. That way I could spend £100 here in the UK instead of £370.
It is 32-bit float whereas the camera recording is not.
So why would anyone ever bother with the receiver? I don't get it.
Using a receiver gives a danger of losing signal and having broken audio and you lose the 32-bit float
Surely it's just better to use the audio from the transmitters and sync it up in editing?
What benefit does the receiver confer other than splicing the audio with the video in real time and saving the sync job in the video editing software?
I emailed Rode yesterday to ask if I could just by one single Pro transmitter as that's all I need and they got back to me saying they don't offer than but they offer the Rode II one as a stand alone transmitter for that purpose.
The only thing I would really need other than one transmitter would be some attachments and maybe a lav. Pity they don't have an a la carte system.
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@@NR-rv8rz One MASSIVE benefit of transmitting the sound to the receiver is that the camera operator or sound person can monitor the sound in real-time. This allows you to identify any issues with the sound - clothing rustle or perhaps the transmitter battery has run out or something else has happened. This is a HUGE advantage so that you don't lose an entire shoot because the audio was not good. If you hear there's a problem WHILE recording, you can often stop and fix the issue and then start the recording again.
Thanks, it makes sense in general.
However, I'm gonna be a lone wolf so I'll be using a shotgun mic at home for filming stationary with a Sony ZV-1, but when I do some talks walking around my apartment, cooking in the kitchen and going hill walked and talking to the camera, I'll be using my phone on a hand held gimble/tripod.
I'll address the phones 4k camera while I walk and sometimes set the gimble down and be stationary and talk.
In that scenario, I'll always use the phones audio capture as a backup and as I've decided to by the whole Rode Wireless Pro kit, I'll probably have both transmitters recording for redundancy.
I mean, now I think of that, I might as well plug the receiver into the phone instead of using the phone mic.
Also, I'm planning to get either the Hohem iSteady M6 or the DJI Osmo Mobile 6 gimble. I think I prefer the Hohem one but it doesn't telescope out like the DJI.
The DJI has a weight limit almost identicle to the weight of my Sony ZV-1 so I'm wondering if I can get away with using that with the DJI gimble. The Hohem gimble has a far higher weight limit at 400g so could easily bear the ZV-1 weight.
If neither can then I'll have to just use my phone when I'm out and about. To be honest, I'm currently doing tests with my old Pixel 3XL 4k capture in outside daylight and the ZV-1 and I don't have that great an eye because I can't see a massive advantage to the ZV-1 footage. Thought it was very overcast and dark in Yorkshire, UK today so will be sunny tomorrow and I'll try again. I will also do the capture in portrait mode on both so that I can display the video side by side on the same monitor because my three monitor setup isn't colour calibrated so I can't use different monitors simultaneously to compare.
Thanks for engaging.
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When will you talk about Deity Theos??? thats the only device im waiting for.
When mine arrives. Still waiting. That's the thing about DEITY, they often announce WAY ahead of when they actually ship the product. I don't want to review a pre-production product so I put in a pre-order and am waiting for that.
@@curtisjudd thanks! i´ll wait for it, it would be greate if you could compare its floor noise against devices like the G3/4 or sony UWP-D
Wonderful review, as always! Shoutout to Rode for putting locking connectors for their lavs on the Wireless Pro, I didn't catch if that was mentioned. Pretty sure the Wireless GO 2 doesn't have them.
For what they are, they seem pretty great. I think the biggest design shortcoming is not having any kind way of bringing in multiple sets to the same timecode. I'd love to use these for very casual round-tables without even breaking out a Rodecaster, but without being able to jam them to a common timecode, that would be a bit of a pain to sync. Granted, with the accurate clock I'd probably just have to sync the recordings once and not have to correct for drift. Maybe. But it just feels like _so close_ to ideal, it's a pity.
Edit: Yeah, I know I could probably run Time of Day. But even if you sync it to the same PC with the app, you're probably not going to get frame-accurate syncs for several sets.
Yes, we showed the locking plugs and mentioned them. And also correct, Wireless GO II did not have those. 👍
Thank you Curtis. I've learned so much from your videos through the years-and continue to. I wonder if the definition of "Pro" is changing/evolving. When I started in video production 13ish years ago, Pro meant something that feels very different from what it means today. Today i think of Pro gear as being something that will give me an extra competitive edge in terms of being able to make money from video production. As someone who owns the Wireless Go, Wireless Go II, and now the Wireless Pro, I do feel it offers a feature set and level of quality that the other two didn’t-even though I liked them as well. But I never felt confident with either of those first two iterations as my only audio on a shoot, whereas I would with the Pro (not that I would prefer it, but I would feel confident enough).
Yes, if it fits what you need, it’s a great kit 👍
It sucks you need a wire for iPhone and smart phones
Curtis, great video. Where did you have your lav mounted for this video? Was it on the front of your shirt (lower and out of frame), or did you have it under your shirt?
Yes, front of my shirt just below the frame.
New to the channel. I really like that you review and talk about so many different types of equipment and price ranges. I also like that you keep your opinions professional and courteous and place emphasis on using what you have access to and going out and recording sound. Thanks for taking the time to share with us!
Thanks! 👍
Great video break down. For indoor talking head videos, would you stick with Sennheiser AVX-MKE2 or make a move to RODE Wireless Pros?
I’d stick with AVX if it’s working for you.
I've come across your channel in the past and always had a great experience. Today you earned a sub (or rather, I was bothered to click it!). Fantastic review. you have a wonderful tone and very relaxing disposition. Thank you for this review. Extremely professional. Surgical precision with your edits. A true pro.
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Great review, as always👍👍👍
I understood very well one thing after two wireless go 2 sets died on me (3,5 mm. jack on receiver after 1 year of medium use, 1 transmitter after 1 year and two months and transmitter from another pair - after 6 months during software update): these things are just useful toys. Some my colleagues have the same problems.
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Same brick-during-update issue happened to me. The good news is that Rode has upgraded the warranty to two years.
Hi Curtis, great breakdown. I'm currently looking to upgrade from my zoom H1n and rode mic recorder. I do a lot of documentary talking head videos, and I'm in between the Sennheiser AVX MKE2 Mic setup and the Rode Pro. The 32 bit float seems pretty huge, not to mention the price difference of 600 USD between them. Is the Sennheiser worth the extra money? If you didn't have either of them, all things considered for documentary work which one would you go with? Thanks again!
If I had the budget, I'd go with the Sennheiser.
@@curtisjudd aren't they both susceptible to dropouts since they both rely on line of sight with their wifi based signals? Is 1.9ghz that much more reliable than 2.4ghz? Would love your thoughts. I guess I'm hesitant to pay 1000 USD for the Sennheiser and still have reliability issues. Thanks so much Curtis love your content!
@@Videosbyme278 Wireless systems are always susceptible to dropouts, even high-end UHF systems where you can tune to different frequencies.
If you must have one that is simple to setup and doesn't require finding a frequency and you'll be working primarily indoors, I found the AVX to be very good. 1.9GHz generally has less competing traffic from devices in 2023 so that's part of my thinking. Then the audio quality of the AVX system was excellent in my tests.
@@curtisjudd Thanks for the info Curtis, however, majority of my interview work is outdoors in the field. I don't typically get too far away from my subjects, think the AVX is still the way to go or something more like the g4s/Sony UWP? I definitely love the form factor of the AVX the most
@@Videosbyme278 If you're within 3 or 4 meters, the AVX should be great.
Which device has the best recorded sound quality, the Tascam DR-10 L Pro or the Rode Wireless Pro (with the included lavalier mics)?
Which device has the best recorded sound quality, the Tascam DR-10 L Pro or the Zoom F2 (with the included lavalier mics)?
Thank you…
To my ears, the RODE.
Thank you Curtis for the very good review. When I look at the graph at 4:20 and 16:48 I think that despite 32 bit, the audio is still clipped. Was the maximum SPL of the microphone exceeded or was there some other reason?
I’m sure there were a very small portion of some clipped waveforms but still would be far better than 24bit. Given the massive dynamic range of 32 bit float (I’m sure I recall seeing 700+dB) the mic is inevitably the limiting factor.
That was a mistake - wrong clip shown. That clip had been heavily compressed in post. The 32-bit float is fine for spoken word audio.
@@curtisjudd Thanks Curtis. Nice that the cause is clear and that it is not in the wireless pro system.
It's funny how this kit is 100EUR cheaper than the combination Wireless Go II + 2x Lavalier Go II + charging case.
The main photo on most websites does not show these extra's, so it might be confusing for some.
Going for Wireless Pro is a no-brainer!
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So just to be clear ( very big newbie here )
I run Rode Go2's and run my receiver into iphone14pro.
Im having clipping issues so considering the PRO's but with pros when i record directly into iphone i only get 24 bit UNLESS i export and separately add 32 bit audio file ?
Cheers for you videos btw, well laid out 👌
That’s correct.
Does the distance change when you sync with the Rodecaster. Is it better or worse?
Hi Curtis,
I've recently picked up a rode wireless pro and tried to use my Sennheiser MKE2 with it. For some reason the MKE2 requires an enormous amount of gain from the camera and\or TX to function at a reasonable level and is therefore suffering from having a lot more signal noise. Not sure if the output voltage from the TX is enough to get the best out of the mic. Even when pulling the 32 bit float audio using the Sennheiser MKE2 I can still notice a lot of hiss.
Your videos are the best, Keep it up! I always come to you first for audio advice and product reviews.
Good to know, thanks!
MKE2 likely requires more than 5 volts of phantom power. The RODE doesn't go higher than 5.
This is a BUY for me now. I were on the fence but timecode clensed it. I'm on DSLR and using Resolve Studio so it's a nice fit. I have good expirences with Røde gear and live in a country where we actually have that funky vowel in our language. :-)
LOL! Happy recording!
Hi Curtis..... Tell me please, does it have support for sound input (HIGH GAIN) other than the lavalier microphone. I would need to transmit sound from a audiomixer via the headphone jack of the mixer to reciever
In the old Wirelles go model (which I own), the input must be controlled and supports only very very low gain. There is a change in the new model, it supports sound input ??.....
PS: I also have a DJI MIC, I can enter with sound, high gain, it automatically recognizes and does not distort, I do not use it because it interferes with the bluetooth of the camera..
Thank you.
It does NOT take line level audio, no.
Fantastic review as always! 💚 Wondering, since I have not been able to tell from the spec sheet, does this pro model support port pro lavalier mics that require more voltage? Such as the DPA 4060 which needs a plug-in operating voltage of 5v to 10v 🤔🎙️
Not sure.
I take it Rode either licensed this tech or simply doesn't care about the patent troll? Based on previous videos, I understood that someone somewhere held a patent that kept most of these manufacturers from adventuring into recording/wireless combo territory.
The Patents are held by Zaxcom and my understanding is that the patent specifically covers recording to removable media. That MIGHT be why Zaxcom hasn’t sued RODE. Another possibility is that since the Wireless Pro is not used by the same people who use Zaxcom wireless, Zaxcom hasn’t bothered to sue RODE. But these are just guesses.
Is it a step back from wg2 in terms of self noise, I checked your review of wg2 which is 70db
Not a substantial step back. The test is not perfectly scientific and strictly controlled, more of a practical sample.
Thanks for sharing. Would you say the Wireless Pro's sound quality and preamps are better than the Go II?
Slightly better, yes
Sounds a bit muffled to me - is that the lav? Are you recording with lav under shirt? Can you adjust for that in post? Could you use a different mic with this that has adjustment for under clothing? I’ve heard that some lavs have interference issues with the rose
I've never used a lavalier on my voice that didn't sound somewhat colored like this. The question is whether it can be EQed and the answer is that the include RODE lavalier does EQ pretty nicely.
Thank you, Curtis. I second that with the battery situation. I work a lot outdoors and in Norway in winter … I’ve gone through 2 sets already in the last 2 years and it annoys me a lot that I don’t have an alternative, bar from plugging in small travel banks or direct on the camera ext pwr.
I was also confused , and excited, when I saw that the wireless 2 could export float … when my sound guy told me it wasn’t … I was confused.
Also the buttons Menu system is also all over the place. I would like to see a wireless or Bluetooth connection to adjust on an app on the go when out on the field. Having to pull out the laptop isn’t convenient to adjust settings. So I would agree to have a more streamlined adjustment process would be better. However, this is nit picking when you get decent value for money here. Love you rode.
Cheers, Curtis! 🎉
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Great review; I'm also asking RODE to allow configuration via the software for a "God mode" ability to disable the buttons on the transmitters from stopping recordings, which would function like the lock switch (that by now, can't be added as hardware) on other 32-bit float lav recorders. Agree completely about the mirror finish, though at least the logo receded a bit from stark white into subtlety.
Hi, this is possible on the Rode Wireless 2 system (just route no function to the buttons) - hope/quiet sure that it is the same here
They should be able to make that assignable to the RX RODE logo button, I'd think.
If you leave the body pack on someone for 1-2hrs and then turn on your camera and record will it automatically connect or would you need to repair?
It should connect.
Pico Mics are way more functional and have wireless monitoring so no need for 32bit although I do like it. No one reviews Pico due to Rode and large companies sending hundred of theses to UA-cam reviewers, they are great mics but for run&gun there are better options for the same price
I reviewed the original PicoMic and it was pretty good except the microphones sounded pretty awful to my ears. Perhaps the newer version sounds better.
Purchased the Rode Wireless Pro, turned it on & the audio levels are low. It's usually fine when I play it back on my Iphone 14 pro max but, when I try to use Davinci Resolve to play it back, it's so low it's comical. I shoot primarily on my Iphone 14 pro max using the Filmic Pro app(not planning on using mirrorless cams anytime soon)but, when monitoring audio, I can barely get the audio bar in Filmic to yellow, let alone red. It usually peaks around green no matter how loud I'm talking, I've heard ideally I want it around -10/-6db. I've downloaded the Rode Capture & Reporter to increase the TXs gains, didn't help. What exactly could I be missing here. Firmware on all devices are up to date. I've tried gain assist on or manual (30db/max) & when I record, it's a bit louder but, audio still extremely low in in my DResolve timeline. The TXs High pass in Rode Central is off by default then, there's still option to set it at 75 or 100, what do you advice? Secondly, I heard to increase the gain if I try recording internally using that 32-bit float, all I have to do is just raise it in any editing program, is this enough or one still needs to do some other magic? like messing with EQs, compression, limiter etc in audacity?
Sounds like you need to increase the input gain (separate from the RX output gain). I’d set the high pass to 75Hz in most cases, only to 100 if there’s a lot of wind and I’m willing to sacrifice some bass response to avoid wind distortion.
@@curtisjudd Thanks Judd, that was exactly what I did(input gains). I watched your audacity video a century ago where you showed EQ, noise reduction, compression, normalize, limiter, filter etc settings that I still use till this day. Do you still recommend using EQ or you just leave the Wireless Pro's audio the way it is? if no, what would it look like for the Wireless Pro? Do you still do it in Audacity or you just do it in Davinci Resolve anyways, whichever one you use, what exactly do you tweak to get even cleaner audio?
@@Sir-Kay No Audacity for me these days. I'm in DaVinci Resolve and iZotope RX most of the time these days.
Here's how I use EQ: ua-cam.com/video/Jn6iB1SNvRQ/v-deo.html
The biggest thing is to get rid of any noise in the space where I record first and only use noise reduction in post if I absolutely must.
Same thing happened to me recording a Pod Cast. I had one subject with no audio, same issue with the mic connector, I thought it was securely locked but it came off and the audio wasn’t captured:
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lovely but once bitten twice shy - wireless iis - batteries - charging - longevity - reset bricking - and the waste bin..... an expensive lesson - but once bitten twice shy.........
Steer clear! 😉
Hey Chris ! Thanks a ton for the review ! Any idea whether it works with pro mics that require a bit of phantom power ? I was particularly thinking of DPA 4088 (as well as their other mics). I love the idea of "everything in a little box" but I find it hard to switch mics from DPA sound (for my voice).
It does provide plugin power, yes, so should be able to power most lavaliers. It does not supply 48V phantom power so will not power XLR mics.
Thanks for the review.
But what if the battery dies after some years of use? can spares by ordered from Rode or would that be the RIP of the Wireless pro?
Not sure. That’s why I view the internal batteries as a con.
Inability to receive time code, transmission distance, lav quality, lack of battery replacement, I’ve decided: tentacle syncs it is. Thank you kindly for all the detailed information Curtis.
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Isn't it great to see DJI and Rode 'encouraging' each other to raise the bar? There are weaknesses to capitalism, but consumers end up being the real winners.
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The Audio Time Code looks something like this: 00:00:00:00000 - 6.3 Milliseconds would be 00:00:00:00630 ??? Thank you for your fantastic tutorials and reviews.
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Out. Standing! As usual Curtis. Thank you for an extremely helpful, thorough review.
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I don't care for the Rode Lavs II. I use a Tascam model. Tascam TM-10LB
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What is your favorite talking head microphone ?
Indoor boom: Sennheiser MKH50
Hello. I have found this channel by luck and love it. Can you please advise if you can 'recover' audio in 32bit within Premier Pro? I have just been doing some tests and I'm still clipping massively and can't seem to get the results other people and yourself have. I would appreciate your help. Thanks.
Yes, I understand that Premiere Pro is capable of 32-bit float processing. You’ll need to adjust the clip gain down, not the track fader.
@@curtisjudd thanks 🫵🏻🤛🏼
Thanks for the review, Curtis. I've been holding out on an order until your (anticipated) review came out.
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How might this compare to something like the Sony UWP-D system?
Less “Pro” than the Sony system. 2.4GHz systems are convenient and generally really easy to use, but 2.4GHz systems sometimes simply cannot compete with other wireless activity in the area and cannot penetrate walls and doors as well as UHF systems like the Sony.
Am i able to record separetly from the trasnmitters and not needing to use the reciever so kinda use it like 2 tascam dr-10L? Just record into transmitter without using any reciver or connecting it to anything?
Yes, you can do this.
@@curtisjudd thx
the one thing is that in rode mics you cant change batteries. you have to buy new unit
That’s what we said, too. 👍
Thanks for the review Curtis! I have a question and would appreciate your advice. If we use the same good quality mic like Sanken cos11 on Rode wireless pro and Sennheiser G4, is the sound quality gonna be a really noticeable difference? I’ve been thinking about buying a wireless system and I’m just wondering if the price difference between these two worth it and should I buy G4 instead?
I don’t have a G4 on hand to test that, but my general experience has been that mics make a bigger impact on sound quality than pre-amps (unless using really cheap preamps/wireless systems)
@@curtisjudd Thanks so much!
What's the storage space on the internal drive? Or does it accept micro SD cards?
I don’t remember the exact amount but supports something like 15 hours of recording.
@@curtisjudd Was able to track it down - 32GB.
I don’t understand why I can’t fix the TX on the cold shoe of the suspension of the videomic ntg. Engineer or manufacturing error?
I don’t know. Maybe try RODE support?
@@curtisjudd yes i tried it. Waiting for the answer.
I work for a call center, remote, from home, and my surroundings are very quiet usually. I would like a lapel style mic for my call center job and am considering this one. What do you thing? Will that work out well for this purpose?
You’ll still have to wear headphones of some sort and does your computer have a mic input that is separate from headphone output? You’ll need that too
@@curtisjudd Yes and yes. I plan to use TRN BT20S PRO wireless 5.3 bluetooth adapters with Truthear Hexa IEMs in my ears (in ear monitors). Then the Rode clipped to my shirt, possibly will use the wired directional microphone also. This system SHOULD work according to my thesis. I also plan to merge the audio from my work pc and my personal pc into one audio source which will go to the IEMs in my ears. But the Rode mic will only be attached to my work PC without mixed audio signal. Sounds complicated but it should work, I think.
It has been out of stock for 3 weeks. Any clue when it will be back in stock?
I’m sorry, I don’t know. Maybe give B&H a call?
@@curtisjuddThey just came back in stock! B&H just shipped mine, will be here in a few days
Hi, fist of all thank you for the very nice in deep review! I just got my pair of wireless pro but honestly I'm kinda disappointed by the background noise. I tried to normalize my dialogue (on an internal recording) at -23 lufs too but i get a costant background noise of -35 dB during the silences (even when the microphone is covered, looks like it's electrical noise). Have you recorded this video with the rode wireless pro? Because on your test the noise was lower but in this whole video i can hear a background noise like mine that I'm note hearing on other creators review of this microphone🥲
This entire video was recorded with the Wireless PRO, yes. In the tests, I turned off all lights with fans, but during the rest, there was a light with a fan.
Hello Curtis, is worth the effort quality wise, to replace the audio from the video of the receiver, (profited there is no dropout or interference) with the internal 32bit recording in post?
Use your ears to make that judgement. If you can't tell a difference, your audience most likely cannot.
Also, 32-bit float audio recordings do NOT sound better, they just potentially have more headroom in case things get louder than expected. So you're not getting more fidelity from the 32-bit float recording on the transmitter.
Can i use 3 transmitters?
thanks
Has the Firmware update adding in Low Cut made any significant difference?
Question does the lav mics rustle if you try to hide them and tape them under clothes by the mic capsule being on the front?
Yes, just like any other lavalier mic. You have to experiment and find the best spot/tape/material.
Already own a Zoom F3 (w/BT module) and two Shure MX185 lavs, which I use for an outdoor podcast recorded while walking. Since used F3s are going for about 250 these days, was wondering if you think I might be better off just picking up a second F3, having each podcast participant wear one (w/separate wired lav), and syncing the tracks in post, vs investing 400 bucks in the Rode Wireless Pro. Wondering which setup might be more reliable and produce better overall sound. Also wondering if the preamps on the RWP system are as good/quiet as the F3's. Thoughts? Thanks much for all the time you invest in your vids. Super helpful. Easily some of the best and most reliable info on the Web. Blessings.
Have they finally fixed the pad causing electronic noise? I reported it and mad a video about it. Rode admitted it but never fixed it on the Go IIs.
The pad?
@@curtisjudd Apparently it's this: "Pad stands for Passive Attenuation Device and is used in microphones to avoid loud audio causing distortion. Basically, a Pad reduces the gain by a set amount of dB. So, if you find that no matter how low you set the gain the audio is still going over 0dB, then switching on the Pad should fix it." And apparently it causes noise in lots of cases.
@@avtoportret Oh, got it, yes, I know about pads. I didn't know the Wireless PRO even had a pad.
Can i plug my Sennheiser Mke 600 into one of the 2 transmitter and that way have a wireless shotgun mic system
Yes, but may need to keep the transmitter a little distance from the microphone to avoid picking up RF interference.
@@curtisjudd Thanks, was thiking the same for the Rf, but i seem to remember someone plugging their shotgun mic into a rode wireless go 2, where thei said the rf wasnt so bad, so im hoping its the same with the Pro
@@JebrilKessler 👍
6.3 ms latency is actually a really good value.
Yes, pretty good 👍
Excellent review - as always. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it👍
just sold my two sets of wireless go II...and finally got the first-round wireless go pro...thanks for the testing and now that's my turn to try them out.
Happy recording!
How is it? Do you recommend them over the DJI mic2?
hi there. well, I actually have no idea how could DJI mic2 perform since I dont have them. But when it comes to Rode Wireless Go Pro..yeah, I can be sure that they just work well with my projects mostly used by teachers. Besides, I think that DJI mic2 might fix those lag problems to work better than the previous version. You know what, the biggest reason for me to give up DJI mic is that the receiver can not be mounted well on cold shoes...no matter what kind of shoes...they just dont work...always slip away...never happen with rode...so...@@psysword
Are the preamps better than on the Wireless Go 2 or they are the same?
Seem very similar.
Can you connect this to record direct to a Mac?
Yes