So I just had 2 players completely level my base in like 2 mins. I had layers on layers of highest tiered walls and foundations. They had some sort of insane lightning attack that 1 shot my roof and walls. Any ideas what it was?
This happened to me when I took a short break, my base was well defended and they got in my base without breaking any walls or door but destroyed everything (loot boxes). Just simply grieved my loot as they couldn't take anything. They definitely phased through my doors as I did not know about this exploit. Weeks of hard work and grinding finished in minutes. Totally put me off this season and scenario... Wish they would have fixed this before launching the scenario.
If I were to want to play a supporting role like farmer to provide food buffs to faction would it be prudent to show I have nothing worth raiding or would people still wreck it just because it’s easy
I really really do appreciate these videos but note there seems to be equal parts theory crafting here vs actual experience. While the streamer sometimes does indicate they are theorycrafting, far more often they present as if the tactic is proven fact. Again, love the videos, but it will help us to know what worked (and still works) against dedicated and organized opponents. I will be watching for new videos on the topic! Thank you!
at the start I said you need to build around faction and have a heavy presence of ally bases, on my server we have a corner with 20+ faction mates, not really possible for a siege base even get close
That trick does NOT work on the automatic doors it seems. I use those with no power connected and I tried on my own base. You hit the door. The others I drive right through.
I build my base with quarter foundation and half walls, so my outside wall is triple and have double layered floors. I tried with triangles, but got annoyed with stair and door placement
Why do you spread the workbenches around? Since you can craft with mats in chest, why not just wall off chests all around the base and put alll your workbench together for ease of use?
There are two glitches at least (afaik) to force your character standing on a sea floor. And you are able to use any tactical item in that state. Underwater.
great video and base design ! , btw what if they use that deviation that can updraft them really high and then glide into your roof ? is that in option in this server or you can't take one with you there .
Bro trust me this game is a big flaw. This isn't rust. Theres so many things you can exploit for an advantage. You mentioned people cant raid from the roof but in this game you can just make it happen. First you can use mountains or other buildings, second 1 rocket makes a hole in the wall and can be used as boost and thirdly people are just gonna use alts to build or just teleport their base close by for raids. The games a flop for competitive play. As much as i like this game i know this will be another shit show.
Absolutely and the server itself is dogsh**.. not fit for competitive play for pvp to be exact.. they should remove pvp first and focus on lore and reintroduce it once its polished cus its useless af
Loved the video but I gotta come clean on the editing and walking through things haha I been doing that since the game dropped 😂 and somtimes (has happened twice so far) a patch breaks it and everytime you'll try to walk through your edit you'll lag right back as if there is still a wall there. Now it seems it was fixed each time with the following patch but you may end up getting screwed over if it happens again
As a rust player/clan builder this looks insane if i can use my friends bases as china walls and/or extra honeycomb The only question i have now is if the ppl raiding me can only destroy my base or also my friends bases?
How are YOU gonna get to deviant if you don't have any doors for you to get to it. You can't build while your base is being attacked. So on a very active pvp server where people hunt you down as soon as you get a deviant is not gonna work. You need doors for yourself
Same. Day 1 was a lot of feuding amongst each other in Faction chat. Day 2 though, we banded together and have united in a couple locations. If you get at least 10-20 people with multiple houses no matter how many come, they will lose that push. It takes so much damage to get in a well guarded house they just run out of time, energy, and mats. Mats go quickly when you get killed repeatedly. 😅 We're going to lose the clash, but we will win the fights we take. ✊️
This is the rason im staying on pve servers, i hope they think of ways to keep pve popular. Rust is a toxic pvp game and i feel this game could head in the same direction with pvp servers. Warframe is a good example of a successful pve game with a fairly positive community. Its only a matter of time before hacks start to show up for this game on pvp server. Esp, aimbots, and exploit abuse is just the kind of thing that comes with every popular pvp game. Hope to see this game survive the crap that is coming.
PvE is just boring if you dont add PvP in this type of game. Only thing that keep people playing are Deviants mostly cause they try to optimise their character as much as possible. The rest is just easy so i hope they change things, make the game really hard in PvE and make Deviants totally free to take with you for the next season instead of paying and being limited.
this, why bother with destroying 6 layers when i can just move my base next to the defender and use my sky high tower to glide over his base and roof raid him lol
because why would I let someone setup a siege base next to me, most importantly when I'm plotted around 10 faction mates its not possible for an opposing player to do so
@@MaleOreo I don't need to move my base next to you, I can have my base a bit far away and still use the very high tower I built in my base to glide to your roof and tp my team. Granted it will be harder if you are not alone.
@AlphaGreyy The house the deviation is in should have the hive on roof defending where as the others in the faction will be your ground troops or in their base next to yours. Also have to get through multiple invincible Nutcrackers. Turrets/ground troops help weed out the enemy ground troops. Nutcrackers/hive memebers/close base allies help clear out the internal threats. We are heavily outnumber by rosetta in my server and still have zero issues defending Deviations when the Faction is working together.
Controversial takes...exposing exploits certainly creates a lot of pressure to get them fixed, but it should always be only the last possible option. 4:05 Let's first define what an exploit is in a game, shall we? It's either the use of bugs (like the one you're warning about) or the use of game mechanics in an uninteded way that gives you an unfair advantage. So you can argue that using the building system to go through walls, which is only a mechanic in the game to make building easier (and to give you an easy way out if you accidentally trap yourself while building), is also exploiting. It's certainly not as bad as abusing bugs, but it surely is using a mechanic in an unintended way to gain an advantage, isn't it?
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Just a fyi if you use power doors even with no power you can not door bike though them.
i could just double jump with spring legs straight onto the ramps of your base and c4 raid. but cool design
its def not flawless for sure, just makes raiders require more gear etc
If you build teleport doors instead. Can enemies use those teleport doors?
Yep they can
So I just had 2 players completely level my base in like 2 mins. I had layers on layers of highest tiered walls and foundations. They had some sort of insane lightning attack that 1 shot my roof and walls. Any ideas what it was?
This happened to me when I took a short break, my base was well defended and they got in my base without breaking any walls or door but destroyed everything (loot boxes).
Just simply grieved my loot as they couldn't take anything.
They definitely phased through my doors as I did not know about this exploit.
Weeks of hard work and grinding finished in minutes.
Totally put me off this season and scenario...
Wish they would have fixed this before launching the scenario.
Good for you pvp guys, me as pve will do the gathering and stuff for the faction, can't imagine myself using triangle base😂
Trrruuueeeee I’m happy for you, the inside peek was something I’d never figure out mysekf
Forgot to mention the raised foundation corners are platforms intended for turrets, I just hadn't made them yet.
WOW, that is a strong base, great job!
If I were to want to play a supporting role like farmer to provide food buffs to faction would it be prudent to show I have nothing worth raiding or would people still wreck it just because it’s easy
I really really do appreciate these videos but note there seems to be equal parts theory crafting here vs actual experience. While the streamer sometimes does indicate they are theorycrafting, far more often they present as if the tactic is proven fact. Again, love the videos, but it will help us to know what worked (and still works) against dedicated and organized opponents. I will be watching for new videos on the topic! Thank you!
If thet destroy your terminal the whole base goes bye
Yep
just build a base next to the base you want to raid. make it taller and then roof raid.
correct me if I am wrong.
If it's anything like rust you'll be raided before your even get your TC (Territory) down.
at the start I said you need to build around faction and have a heavy presence of ally bases, on my server we have a corner with 20+ faction mates, not really possible for a siege base even get close
YES definitely not exploited ....😂😂😂
The bases in the water need to get fixed. It’s completely lame that you dodge the ability for people to c4 your structure
That trick does NOT work on the automatic doors it seems. I use those with no power connected and I tried on my own base. You hit the door. The others I drive right through.
I build my base with quarter foundation and half walls, so my outside wall is triple and have double layered floors. I tried with triangles, but got annoyed with stair and door placement
til they fix it there is a exploit to stand on ocean floor sooo they can throw c4.
How?
Diving, you can walk around on the floor
@@eli84360 yeah, how do we do it? we've had people do it to us
Why do you spread the workbenches around? Since you can craft with mats in chest, why not just wall off chests all around the base and put alll your workbench together for ease of use?
Workbenches are triple buffed and are also a big blowout if destroyed
@@MaleOreo true, didn't think of that
You can edit base while being raided?
If you put turrets 1x foundation away from your base, and move in water, will they shoot while being underwater?
Great vid!
I'm pretty sure by the wind deviant could be used to roof raid the base. It can fly above 3 story buildings.
free kill though
There are two glitches at least (afaik) to force your character standing on a sea floor. And you are able to use any tactical item in that state. Underwater.
I have grab traps overlapping, they will dye in seconds trying to dive
great video and base design ! , btw what if they use that deviation that can updraft them really high and then glide into your roof ? is that in option in this server or you can't take one with you there .
There is a drone where you don't lose altitude and replaces V as your parachute and the deviation is "by the wind" from prime wars
@@sunnydcf7775 easy target using that drone, super slow
@@MaleOreo yea it's overrated for sure
Hey man. What server you on? Can I connect with you after work to copy blueprint by chance?
I’ll pay!!
@ryguyr6 pretty sure me and you are on the same server. If you get it going id like to copy the print from you lmao
@@spencerbrown6880 same
@@spencerbrown6880I have it. Hit me up tomorrow
Bro trust me this game is a big flaw. This isn't rust. Theres so many things you can exploit for an advantage. You mentioned people cant raid from the roof but in this game you can just make it happen. First you can use mountains or other buildings, second 1 rocket makes a hole in the wall and can be used as boost and thirdly people are just gonna use alts to build or just teleport their base close by for raids. The games a flop for competitive play. As much as i like this game i know this will be another shit show.
Absolutely and the server itself is dogsh**.. not fit for competitive play for pvp to be exact.. they should remove pvp first and focus on lore and reintroduce it once its polished cus its useless af
Loved the video but I gotta come clean on the editing and walking through things haha I been doing that since the game dropped 😂 and somtimes (has happened twice so far) a patch breaks it and everytime you'll try to walk through your edit you'll lag right back as if there is still a wall there. Now it seems it was fixed each time with the following patch but you may end up getting screwed over if it happens again
wait till you see my base 😅 looks ugly but expensive if not going through the right way... Great video love the streams aswel ❤
this is perma ban now hahahaha
yeah, ill probably change the title or unlist the vid
That exploit 😂 thnx for letting us know rip doors
As a rust player/clan builder this looks insane if i can use my friends bases as china walls and/or extra honeycomb
The only question i have now is if the ppl raiding me can only destroy my base or also my friends bases?
they can destroy friends bases too
@@MaleOreo good to know thx man have a good day
bro show proof he using exploit lmao, thanks for the heads up but good luck man, new dev news says they will be ban user who doing this
Great video, but anyways nothing matters vs gunslight turret and biomasa missil… nice try tho…
But couldnt they not just place a higher base beneath urs and then jump from there to roof raid u?
Not when you are plotted around 20 faction mates
Wish you wouldve atleast showed how to make the base of the build
description is the full unedited building process on a twitch vod :)
u cant build when u base is attack, so base turns u cage when someone shoot to ur base
You shouldn't be fighting from inside the base anyways
why no compound?
people wont get banned for something they had time to fix. its devs own fault if people use this.
How are YOU gonna get to deviant if you don't have any doors for you to get to it. You can't build while your base is being attacked. So on a very active pvp server where people hunt you down as soon as you get a deviant is not gonna work. You need doors for yourself
you can drop the deviant for a teamate and edit them through for you or vice versa
the PVP is nobalanced. in my server there are 50 mayfly vs 200++ roseta. how can you win that.
it was rigged for rosetta from the start 😂
god dammit Mary....
Same. Day 1 was a lot of feuding amongst each other in Faction chat. Day 2 though, we banded together and have united in a couple locations. If you get at least 10-20 people with multiple houses no matter how many come, they will lose that push. It takes so much damage to get in a well guarded house they just run out of time, energy, and mats. Mats go quickly when you get killed repeatedly. 😅 We're going to lose the clash, but we will win the fights we take. ✊️
soo cant jump whit bythewind deviant?
Not when plotted around 20 faction mates
@@MaleOreo god point XD
This is the rason im staying on pve servers, i hope they think of ways to keep pve popular. Rust is a toxic pvp game and i feel this game could head in the same direction with pvp servers. Warframe is a good example of a successful pve game with a fairly positive community. Its only a matter of time before hacks start to show up for this game on pvp server. Esp, aimbots, and exploit abuse is just the kind of thing that comes with every popular pvp game. Hope to see this game survive the crap that is coming.
PvE is just boring if you dont add PvP in this type of game.
Only thing that keep people playing are Deviants mostly cause they try to optimise their character as much as possible.
The rest is just easy so i hope they change things, make the game really hard in PvE and make Deviants totally free to take with you for the next season instead of paying and being limited.
People already building tall towers to port over just to glide onto bases
this, why bother with destroying 6 layers when i can just move my base next to the defender and use my sky high tower to glide over his base and roof raid him lol
because why would I let someone setup a siege base next to me, most importantly when I'm plotted around 10 faction mates its not possible for an opposing player to do so
@@MaleOreo I don't need to move my base next to you, I can have my base a bit far away and still use the very high tower I built in my base to glide to your roof and tp my team. Granted it will be harder if you are not alone.
@AlphaGreyy The house the deviation is in should have the hive on roof defending where as the others in the faction will be your ground troops or in their base next to yours. Also have to get through multiple invincible Nutcrackers. Turrets/ground troops help weed out the enemy ground troops. Nutcrackers/hive memebers/close base allies help clear out the internal threats. We are heavily outnumber by rosetta in my server and still have zero issues defending Deviations when the Faction is working together.
Controversial takes...exposing exploits certainly creates a lot of pressure to get them fixed, but it should always be only the last possible option.
4:05 Let's first define what an exploit is in a game, shall we? It's either the use of bugs (like the one you're warning about) or the use of game mechanics in an uninteded way that gives you an unfair advantage.
So you can argue that using the building system to go through walls, which is only a mechanic in the game to make building easier (and to give you an easy way out if you accidentally trap yourself while building), is also exploiting.
It's certainly not as bad as abusing bugs, but it surely is using a mechanic in an unintended way to gain an advantage, isn't it?
Do people actually enjoy doing this kind of thing? It feels tedious to me rather than enjoyable.
lol wow
don't say "PvP" in once human.... this shit szenario is a shitfest to the whole real PvP games out here
This is a massive improvement over the previous scenario we had.