Retro Review & Tutorial - Music 2000 on PS1 MTV Music Generator
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Music 2000 (known at MTV Music Generator in some parts of the world ) is a great bit of music making software that launched in 1999. It's well worth a go nowadays if you fancy trying something quite lofi to make beats with. This video will show you how it all works.
Update: Someone has kindly ripped and uploaded the sample library from this and made them available on the Internet Archive:
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THERE'S A LINK IN THE DESCRIPTION. Thanks for watching 😄
I still have MTV Music Generator complete for PS1 up to this day since early 2000s. I use to love this when I was a kid. I never knew they released it on PC too. So I download the PC version from abandonware website because I don't want to destroy the original PS1 disc. I did remembered I made 10 minute song and saved it to a memory card but it’s long gone in the past. I never knew they made MTV MG 2 and 3. I think this was one of the coolest thing existed on consoles. I did had a radio and blank cassettes back in 2000s. I used a microphone and laid it at the crt tv speakers to record demo disc songs to my cassettes because I didn't have studio materials at the time. I think this software still hold up pretty good.
Man so much nostalgia playing this for hours and crash, crazy taxi, tony hawk, oddworld...the 90's were super chill !!!
Eric Portillo Ha yeah it was 😄 Played a huge amount of Tomb Raider and Wipeout my self. Good times
@@ChrisLodyMusic Nice!!
@@ChrisLodyMusic although, crazy taxi mightve been early 2000s.
Those games you named were among my favorite! I mostly had them on the computer but Crazy Taxi was the best for DC.
Just picked up a PS1 myself for some Wipeout and old school wrestling fun, totally forgot about Music 2000 until I ordered it last night. Imagine my surprise when I looked for a video to refresh my memory and find none other than Chris Lody delivering the goods! I'd have loved to see more in-depth coverage of the video track though, that's what I'll be using it for to start with...
Oh nice one, Wipeout for the win 😁 Hope you have fun with Music 2000 when it turns up. I honestly never spent much time with the video mode. It looks like fun but I was just completely obsessed with experimenting with audio in it so it never got a look in really
Great video, and very helpful! I've been playing with this recently and I was wondering how to use a sample once I've recorded it from a CD, and now I know thanks to you! It's really very impressive how much power this program gives you, considering it's on the PS1
Thank you. Yes they did a great job, especially considering the hardware restrictions!
Jester Interactive has released a PC version of Music2000 which does not have the annoying memory limitations of the PlayStation version. You are given 99 additional tracks to work with. Also, they made Music2002 Slinky Club Edition, however as far as I know, it was exclusively made for the PC. I have uploaded all the demo songs on my channel and made an archive of the program with instructions on how to run it on Windows10. Thanks for creating this video btw.
Oh I didn't know about the Slinky Club edition, very interesting. Thanks for watching
Can u sample on it
ChrisLody very well done my friend!!! Your tutorial along with Coordman's tutorial are the only two I've found which actually provide any real substance in showing the viewer how to use and apply these advanced editing features in their Music 2000/ MTVMG creations. This is a great help to anyone who really wants to go deep into using these advanced features since the ingame instructions don't really explain in detail how to use them...Thanks for sharing your invaluable knowledge on how to use this program my friend. I have subscribed since I'll need to refer back to this often.
Thanks very much. If there’s anything you need to know about it or anything music tech related I might be able to help so let me know
After I’ve trimmed a 1 bar break I always add a loop point at the start of the break, then create an 8 bar riff with a note lasting the whole 8 bars playing the looped break. Then paste a copy of that riff right at the end of the first one. Play it from the start and if you can get the timing to sound pretty good at the point where the 8 bar riff ends and the next one starts then you know that you’re sample trimming and bpm match are tight af!
Oh nice tip 😁
I made the best song I ever heard on a generic memory card…the card died….but I still have it, waiting for the day in the near future where I can bring it back to life and recover that epic track I made back in 2000. Soon
This is sooooo much wonderful childhood memory material. Thank you. Also those clicks and beeps when selecting stuff on the options. This would be fun to work on it aftet making music for over 15 years now.
It changed my life!
No problem. Ive enjoyed dipping back into it and pretty damn nostalgic for me too. I was in my late teens, clubbing loads and this was my first exposure to music tech. The rest is history 😄
yooooooooo Bukez Finezt omggggggggg what a nice surprise
it changed my life too hahaha, cant imagine music without you Bukez
Thanks for making this video. I’ve always wondered what it would be like to use this program.
No problem. Thanks for watching 😁
I got back into dabbling in DAWs and found out about this. I had no idea the PS2 and PSX had actual, competent music making programs outside of Rhythm games. Finding Music 2000 and 3000 is tough, but I learned those are the PAL versions and instead, the NTSC version is MTV Music Generator series, which you can still find a few copies of here and there (but not many).
Anyways, I went and head a bought a copy before it was too late. This is a cool find!
Cool I hope you enjoy it. It's still a really useable bit of software after all these years, really well designed 👌
So much lov for this my humble beginnings
I loved this it was my first experience with music, I miss the days 😢 I allways rember using this on one of them ting camping TVs that were black and white, I don't produce anymore haven't for years but one day I'll go back to it 💋❤
Thanks 😊 Yeah I have such fond memories of that era of gaming
Still got all my memory cards full of creations!
Nice one. I wish I still had all mine 😄
I would make some terrific Ambient and Drum & Bass tracks with this disc back in 2001. The software would occasionally freeze and all my work would be lost. Years later I purchased MTV Music Generator 3 for the PS2 - and although the riffs had a better sound quality, it never felt as intuitive as Music 2000.
Yes that was my experience of it at times. If I messed around with the sample editor too deeply that could cause some serious problems! Kind of thing that'd get patched now. But mostly I found it to be stable. I had 2 of them on the PS2 but I found them both a bit watered down compared to this
Maybe you can use it on an emulator and save state to not lose anything.
I loved this program!! Was one of my favorites! & was my 1st music making programs.
Yeah it’s still pretty good even now 😄
music 2000 still keeps me very happy :), i use my analog outputs from my ps1 into my mixer ;)
2021 still love this game and i made nice music from it 💖
This is the program I used as a kid. It's where I got my start in production. (Well, the American version anyway.)
From this I graduated to FL Studio, which is a very similar workflow. Btw, if you should happen to have memory card files from this game, they're compatible with either version. American saves will work on European copies, and vice versa.
Yes I did the same, from this to FL Studio and I agree they've got a lot in common.
I didn't know that about the compatibility, that's nice to know
Thanks.
got this program a few months ago, have genuinely been using it to make music for my upcoming sound design unit assessment for my film production uni course, pretty good for a 3 quid pick up from a boot sale.
Nice one 😁👌 Yeah can't be bad for 3 quid. I imagine it will make your sound design very unique compared to your fellow students 😄
YES! Woho!
Thanks for watching 😄
I used to make music on this ALL DAY when It came out , wish I could find my classic Instrumental beats I recorded.
Cool, wish I’d have stuck to it and made more with it at the time. But it’s still pretty damn powerful with some patience
Excellent tutorial, thanks for posting! Ps would did you use to capture the video? It looks way crisper than my PS1 looks on my screen. 😅
Thank you 😁 If you want an image that crisp your best bet is a scart cable. Get a decent one and it will deliver an RGB signal rather than composite video which is fuzzy looking, but the TV has to support RGB over scart for that to work. In theory an S-Video cable should also work but I never had much luck with that. I used a DVD recorder to capture the video then ripped the files from disc to PC mostly because that's the gear I had 😄
@@ChrisLodyMusic many thanks for the advice and I’ll try a scart cable. That was a clever workaround to use a dvd recorder in your case. 👌
i lov this ,,game,, .i create a lot of shitty music but it was fun :D
I have to try the PC version! In pc MS-DOS I use Impulse Tracker, love it.
I never used this program, I started making music right away with Magix Music Maker on PC back in 2001. I didn't even know how music making worked on Playstation until now. Very capable program!
I think I played around with Magix at about that time too. It was an interesting era 😁
130 bpms is perfect for making drill beats.
Forgot to mention, Music 2000 came out in 1999. Also running it on a PSP works apart from the delay and echo in the dsp row are glitched. It will load on a PS3 though the audio is completely broken, but runs well enough to rip samples from CD which you can then save to a virtual memory card to transfer over to PSP.
There is a headphone output on PSP so you can connect a splitter cable to that. Some PlayStation Ones have phono connectors on the back which you can connect to. The later models don’t but you can still get a phono connection from the video out D terminal with a standard PlayStation video cable or some scart cables. Hope that helps
I wish I had come across this before I re-purchased this game... tried to play just now and only some clips will demo but pretty much broken as you said. :'( Now I'm gonna have to buy a PS2, I guess.
Yeah it's a real shame it doesn't run on PS3 especially considering the amount of storage available. From memory it runs well on PS2 so that should be a good option. Don't know if you've owned one before but PS2 will only save PS1 games to PS1 memory cards so make sure you get some of those too
Yeah, I used to play it a lot back in the day on both PS1 and PS2. Right now I'm trying it out on PC... which I doubt will work but would rather that first than having to buy a whole console for it.
Hi Chris. I play a few instruments and I put together many tracks 20 years ago with music 2000. This thing was awesome! I found some old memory cards the other day but I couldn't find the game and I'm so curious to hear what I had composed back then so I just ordered the game and a ps1 :) I remember there was some really cool complex stuff I did on music 2000 as I'd generally build all from scratch, i.e bassline, chords, drumbeat, with my own original material. And after all these years I'm getting back into playing and would like to record things again.
Q: Do you think there'd be a way of converting/transferring the raw data/notes to PC to be used with a current DAW? I'm not even using a DAW, just looked at a few but transferring would be so much easier. If there isn't a way of transferring to pc then I'll just have to redo everything from scratch and it's a lot of work but at least I'm able to view the data/notes from music 2000 to see exactly what I did as opposed to listening to something I recorded to a cassette or disc.
Thanks
I'd imagine it's stored in some sort of proprietary format to be honest. I know there are devices that can transfer memory cards onto pc though I've never used one. If you managed to get the data onto pc that way you could always use an emulator, but I think the easiest solution would just be to get hold of a copy of the original game for original hardware
Memorex: Sweet Rapper Ain't Soft (debut album in early 2002) was made entirely using Music2000 and a tape deck.
I have the pc version running on Windows 10 atm... works great except for loading songs so far
Is this the software with the song that says "Lose yourself in a jungle of ambient sound"?
I'm not sure to be honest. It's packed in a box ready for a house move at the moment so I'll try to remember to look when we get moved
I wish I had bought the game back in the day but I did rent the game and found it somewhat enjoyable... years later a friend had been given a linux computer and he had Audacity on it and I was goofing off one day with a beat box I did into a cheap mic and had him rap on it... I got into making beats by accident.
codemiesterbeats I kind of tripped and fell into making music in a similar way. Took me by surprise how much I enjoyed it and I’ve never looked back 😁 Fun fact, this game was published by a company called ‘Codemasters’
I'd get this again for those times when I'm stuck in a rut creatively
Yeah always good to keep something handy to get the creative juices flowing
i just got one, and it helps a lot. ya go into it thinkin ohhh im just gonna tinker around.......6 hours later ya got a track
Awesome, glad you're having fun with it 😁
If you use modern memory card emulators with large sd cards, do you gain more sampling time? Thanks
Sadly not. It's setup to presume the maximum sample time is the same as a standard memory card
I love this soft, MTV Music Generator in my case. I also make several video, but sadly when saving corrupted my Memory Card back in the date, some work, and some I could transfer to my PC with an special reader for USB (use a parallel port technology), the only downside of MTV music gererator / Music 2000 is that don't let you change to ternary beats, only binary 4 by 4, this make veryy complex make some styles, apart from that is amazing!!! I still ot a lot of music composed with this soft, some in cassette digitalize, other CD audio quality recorded, other I can emulate! MTV Music Generator 2 was a let down to me on PS2. I don't remember if was developed alos by Jester
Yeah I bought MTV Music Generator 2 and even 3, they don't compare to this somehow, they were like a step backwards somehow 😄
Is there any music generators for the PC that are similar to this software?
Well I went from this to FL Studio as it had a few things in common and comes with a whole load of samples too. It was a considerably simpler bit of software back then though it has to be said 😄
Man, i created a couple of BITCHIN songs in this generator back in the day, that even got played in the local club. But... everything was lost :(
Aleksandar Krstic Oh man that’s a shame
i had music 2000. i had no interest in music at all and i just randomly got it given to me...i got hooked. it was so easy to use and play around with
Nice one 😁 Did you keep up with making music after you got hooked on it?
nice
Thank you
Will this work on PS4
Sadly not. I'd love for Sony to add some backwards compatibility to the PS4 but it doesn't play anything other than PS4 games unfortunately. Fingers crossed that at least PS5 will get that some day 🤞
I still use this, is there a way to save directly to hdd
I think if you're running it on an emulator on pc you could use 'loop back' audio recording in something like audacity to capture a direct recording of the audio in real-time. Otherwise if that doesn't work or you're on PlayStation you need to record the audio from analog connection using an audio interface
How would go about exporting a track on the music 2000 and converting it to flac on to a macbook pro?
There is no export option on Music 2000 so you'd have to hook up an audio interface to your Mac and the audio output of the playstation. I'm not sure what software is available on Mac to export in flac but it's a common format so it should be possible with any audio editor
@@ChrisLodyMusic yeah I have a evermix box which works with the recording function on VDJ Pro on my mac. I'm looking for a ps1 for sale online at the moment.
Best music program ever made on PSX music 2000 definetry nr. 1 Not mater how MC is big or not as a kid i create full tape of music from that program coz i use microphone plus tape player and mini jack cable then record all directly to tape from speakers then i join all in 1 big music file on my win98 pc :) Now u can ez record that coz u need only program who can rip image and audio from psx directly to pc hdd and then other program to edit fiew smal parts to 1 music demo :) or step by step some cut and some join together :) or just use emulator and memory space will be unlimited i think :) Best in that program for me is women vocal sample :) Ah i remember that so well... Time to play again on my psx...
Sounds like you put it to good use then. Wish I’d recorded something like that with it. Thanks for watching
I love music 2000 i have use this software for many years. And its very good for make music style 90s original quality
Me and a hood mate of mine have a copy of this and have spent quite a bit of time making some track on it. Does anyone know how we would get this off of the game or memory card and into a PC or something so we could potentially mix it
The easiest way would be to boot up the songs in the original game and connect the audio from the console to a PC through an audio interface into a DAW like Reaper etc. If you want to be able to record things separately so it could be mixed you could selectively mute tracks and play them in one at once. Adding a click on each track at the start and\or end would enable you to line the parts up easily
You could try emulating the console and game alternatively and record the audio by setting up a loopback, but you'd have to get the save files onto the pc somehow and I'm not sure how to do that
I've been using it on my windows 10 PC.. all I did was mess with the compatibility settings..
How do u change the tempo?
There is a row at the bottom of the main screen that allows tempo changes including gradual changes. You insert blocks the same way as inserting pattern blocks
Shame the DIY sampling was based on CDs - a great trick to save memory with the hardware samplers of the era was to sample off vinyl at 45rpm, and then tune things down again in the sampler. I had a S2000 and a cracked copy of cubase so although I liked the idea of Music2000, it was a bit too limited (and clunky) in comparison - even though it’s sample editor was killer!
Don't know if I mentioned this in the video but on Music 2000 you could sample at 44.1k, 22k and 11k so it is the same trick but in the digital domain. Uses half or quarter of the memory and gives that lofi sound too. I'd love to have a play around with a proper sampler. I don't really count the Volca Sample as you can only add samples to that from a PC or mobile device
@@ChrisLodyMusic so i need an external cd player on my tv ? or how do I sample from CD, if the game's already inside?
You don't need an external cd player, you just remove the game disc and insert an audio cd before sampling
A lot of people dont realise this software is out for PC as well, the ps1 was terrible for running out of memory.
Yeah but the PC version crashes every 30 second or so and have even worse controls and sound quality
@@DJOmnimaga It will only work on windows 98 properly, windows 10 is pure garbage.
@@Synthematix Correct. I've got a WinME computer I keep around specifically for this game. Okay, I take it back. There are other games too. But MTVMG is the main one.
God, I need to fire this up on stream some day...
@@DarthG33k The pc version of music2000/mtv was far superior, supports midi, wav exporting and your own sound samples, was a beast of a sequencer and way ahead of its time, I made songs on this software years ago that sounded so so good, once you learn how it works you can make some really good music
@@Synthematix I made a really shitty album back in high school on the program. I remember it very, very fondly
Is there a way to apply the reverb to each track?
It's an on\off decision to send a note with in a track to the reverb or not that is set up with the note triggers in the per note effects. There's a set of 8 note retriggers that can be red, yellow or black. If they are yellow the note is sent to the reverb.
@@ChrisLodyMusic ah ok thanks for explaining! I've been trying to find an online version of the manual but it is impossible
Oh that's a shame. I've got an original manual so I can scan that in and stick it up on Dropbox
The channels are stereo and not monophonic, pan is on the bottom right of the fx area when you are inserting note data in the arranger grid. Sorry mate but Ive been working on it a lot longer and there is a huge bug when saving samples you made off CD too. If you are going to use samples off CD nd the samples all fir on the memory card, save the samples and just put a note of each sample and sound on a block/RIFF
and save it. Load it up and many samples will have changed places. Now it is safe to make a track, the places wont change again. Hope this helps many Music 2000 music makers
That's a good tip about DIY samples. I'd seen it do some pretty weird things and wondered why. Thanks for that.
I didn't misspeak about the tracks being monophonic though. They may be stereo but they can only play one note at once rather than chords which in music tech terms is called monophonic so as not to be confused with mono.
This was the first comment Ive came across where someone besides myself knew that you could sample from CDs. My favorite BPM to make beats was 170 because I could then make a more organic, non quantized beat sound just a slight off tempo. Another thing I discovered was that because the Playstation 2 was backwards compatible, the PS2 gave more space so you could make more CD sampled music.
@@ChrisLodyMusic oh that kind of monophonic yes I see now what you mean, each note cuts off the last note in that mode of course.
I have a SCPH1001 playstation ("hifi" with the stereo out) and the American version of this, MTV Music Generator. Did have Music 2000 but the disc got trashed.
This runs on a PS1 emulator on a relatively old android perfectly by the way, in case anyone is wondering.
Also, this was my first DAW when I was 7 :D
Ah good to know it runs well on emulation. After finding it didn’t run 100% even on Sony’s own emulation on PSP and PS3 I just thought I’d skip that completely. Plus I always regretted getting rid of my first PS1 😄 Thanks for watching
Reminds me of some ipad apps today.
Yeah there are some amazing apps about now that you could happily write a whole album on. Reckon to try to make a whole album on game consoles so this will feature for sure
You can samples on this game! I have it, still i have no clue how.
I show how to sample at about the 16m mark in this video. You just remove the game disc when prompted and insert an audio CD
Can any1 tell me I got ps1 and2 music generator I it's hook up to my new smart TV how do I transfer the beat to a cd or to my phone is that possible tbh I make sume dope asf beats still on ps1 generator it's also hook up to the ps2
If you'd like to do that you'd need a pc or Mac with a CD burner in it and CD writimg software. Or just hunt down some 90s sample CDs on eBay or something 😄
@ChrisLodyMusic I got a MacBook pro 2022
But the new Mac doesn't have a cd burner so I had to order a cd burner separate but I got that as well n I'm still trying to figure dis shit out lol
Anyone having trouble playing this on ps3? The game loads but the samples won’t play...
Yeah unfortunately it doesn't work properly on PS3 which is why I bought an old PS1 to make this video. Shame because it's be nice to have loads of space to store saves on the harddrive
This is awesome my psx is 20yo and i Never heard about this Game
Most of the sequencing from my Demo Album “ Blood and Feathers “ was done with this. Routed into a digital 8 track for overdubs. Great bit of kit :)
open.spotify.com/track/5yzBbNT38drMpuA89JW1JS?si=7WH0P8l_RmO7H39PbTaXoA
Nice I’ll have a listen. Yeah I find it a very flexible bit of software
Mtv 1 and 2 were awesome. 3 sucked ass because it had no samples. It was sequencing clips only like a DJ
Yes it was downhill from here unfortunately. I did like MTV Music Generator 2 on ps2 which did have samples etc, but everything I tried to do on it made my ps2 crash. After that they kept dumbing it down like you say. Shame.