Californians look at the homeless with shock and horror. People from out of state look past the homelessness and at Californians with shock and horror. $3500 a month for a box? Thats the real problem. Homelessness is one thing. Paying insane prices for a box is completely looney.
Because there were already a ton of people in the state to begin with, kind of like those episodes of Hoarders where they clean out a lot of stuff in the home but there is still a lot of stuff to go.
When people reach their boiling point after living check to check, paying half if not more for rent/housing, working 2 jobs, and only see the hole they are in get deeper and deeper, they will make changes. Relocate even if it means leaving your home state. I worked 12-hour shifts 6 days a week for a year to save $$ to exit California and relocate on the amazing Oregon Coast in a small rural town where we are living in peace and our community respects one another and our environment. Peace Out California.
You gonna pay for my college? I never went to college because I was/am poor and have nobody to help with that. It’s either slave away or starve to death going to college??? Not everyone is as fortunate to have everything handed to them all while looking down on the less fortunate
I lived in the LA area decades ago. Geographically it's a wonderful place to live, so close to everything, weather is nice, ocean, etc. I was struggling back in the 1980s there. I had to move if I wanted to buy a home even back then. Nothing new about being priced out of the LA area. I'm glad I didn't wait. I could only afford rent in California, in Arizona I bought a house and multiple rental properties working as a hairdresser. Move to where you will grow.
The problem is that we have 49 other states homeless population here in California, they save up 50 bucks and greyhound there way west for the weather , then they end up never going east. A lot of people assume those people are from here when in fact they tell u themselves they came here
Not saying that doesn’t happen, but California, Oregon, and Washington all have lax policies towards the homeless. Those policies become a draw themselves.
Unfortunately the people leaving New York, California and the other places are in turn creating problems in the places they are moving to because they are pricing out the locals in those places. Eventually those places will face increases in the same problems (traffic, crime, homelessness, etc.), so it's only a temporary reprieve. One example is Florida--it's now the most unaffordable state to live in (low income, high cost of housing). Also happening in Idaho, Montana and elsewhere.
I left LA 20 years ago and have no regrets! I was born and raised in LA and saw the decline since the 90’s. Sad that my home town has turned into this.
@@MikeAruba69 you hit the nail right on the head. You got to have the funds to move. People talk about the politics as if, a politician is going to extend his/her hand and help finance...
Forget out front, theres a drug addict currently living IN my building a few doors down from me. They served him a 3 day eviction notice but he won't budge so we have to hear yelling, punching, slamming and stomping all day and all night long. Tenants are even scared to walk down the hallway, get in the elevator with him or even throw their trash out. He has broken doors and windows. The cops have been called multiple times yet when they show up, he puts on his docile voice and in great lying addict form, manipulates the cops. Yet when they leave the yelling continues. Clearly, he is more protected and has more rights than the law abiding tenants have.
@@lol_05.76 yes but I wouldn’t feel comfortable pointing my phone camera towards him, no telling what he’d do. I do have a camera over my front door that picks up him yelling in the hallway and can even pick up when he yells in his apartment. That’s how loud it gets.
@@lolacookie453 What a bad situation. I think I'd get the heck out of there, but it's so easy for me to sit here and type that out in a UA-cam comment than it is to logistically make that happen.
@@michaelb.8953 thank you! sadly we already lost a great tenant bc of him, she has been here for 17 years. I have considered leaving myself, but love my place so holding out hope he leaves or the sheriffs department escorts him out. He was supposed to leave four days ago, today I saw him bringing collapsed boxes and what looked like packing materials into his apartment. Praying it’s to pack up and go! 🙏
They cut our savings in half and doubled the price of everything, that’s why everyone needs to move out of the nice areas. And I’m sure Black Rock and the Chinese will buy up all the prime real estate. The price gouging going on in CA is the stuff of nightmares. I was talking to a friend in TX about the price of goods, she couldn’t believe how high they are here. The economic destruction is deliberate and I’m sick of it.
@@thefox47545if you own property, life isn't so bad. I'm one of those who moved out of north county SD because I didn't own property. I can admit I couldn't afford living there anymore. Being realistic, I purchased a home in another state and live a comfortable life now.
They are also moving in huge numbers to the So Cal Deserts (where I've lived most of my life) and many people are being pushed out by the skyrocketing prices HERE now and/or the lack of available housing. It really sucks for longtime residents. There's a lot of pushback: Go Back to L.A. bumper stickers, t-shirts and all.
This is what I don't understand. If people are moving because of high cost, they should look at the usual numbers and NOT give into the new higher rates albeit it's less than L.A. Not only are they still getting screwed but they ruin it for everyone else already in that area.
Working remotely is what's making us move to the inland empire and buying houses it's only going to get worse so the local people need to stay up their game the cost of living is never going back down .
Same in central CA. The cities are building houses by the miles. They're building nice- luxury homes, not affordable housing, apartments etc. They're making the affordable parts of CA unaffordable and pushing for the lower middle class to be eliminated. Houses with no space, like LA, no backyards.
What will probably happen is the overstock of office real estate would be converted into affordable housing. It will be weird, but achievable. Low earners as a whole don’t care for upkeep and maintenance as they shouldn’t since they rent. Landlords do a horrible job filling in the gaps. Communal housing in office spaces should offer a good solution. Just don’t know exactly how it will look.
There is no money to entice builders to build affordable homes when the same land can produce a higher priced home for sale. I don't blame them, why do the work for nothing when you can make some profit for your investment? Maybe give builders an incentive by the state to make it affordable for them to build less pricy homes AND only sell them to owner occupied buyers.
@@eckankar7756 when the homes are built in cities that are notorious for having a low income population or working class it is not a matter of profit but a matter of phasing out people. Everyone wants profits but morally you are kicking out the same people who have lived in your city for 20-40 years. Which becomes a moral quandary. But business capitalism has no morals. Perfect example of what we dont need.
@@Eoj24 Poor people don't pay the bills. It's a fact of business. Companies are not charities. Everyone moving from one location to another is dislocating someone there. People selling out in California and buying cheaper in Las Vegas displace people in Vegas. People from the USA living abroad for the economics of that country displace people from that country. If you don't do what you need to do to earn more money so you can afford more there are few willing to lower their product to provide for low income. Instead of shaking your fist and demanding for something to be cheaper, step up as an adult and learn to become more in your life so you can afford more and provide for your family more. Such a massive lack of willingness to participate in one's own well being.
Who's leaving? I haven't seen or even heard of anyone moving out of State. I take that back. Alot of homeless people who lived elsewhere are going back to their home state
@@Mrh3rpd3rps I never mentioned L.A. I'm not from L.A. But since you mentioned it, Los Angeles ain't nothing compared to what it was in the 80s and 90s.
Police chases. Horrific traffic fatalities. Rapes. Murders. Kidnappings. LA is rife with all the things that make it a friendly, happy, wonderful place to raise a family with a future.
Leaving in less than 1 year 🙌. CA will only get worse, losing a lot of high earners, crime will keep rising as well as rent. No point in staying here for the average Joe like myself. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a new tax on something to compensate the loss.
Blame all the people selling to californians. They can simply say "wont sell to californians!" But hey guess what? Arizonans want money just like everybody else! So thats why they sell to Californians offering money 💰
I'm about to dip too. Everything is way too expensive. My SoCalGas bill alone is now 200% more expensive then it was 2 months ago. I'm so done with the expenses.
I moved out of Ca soon after retiring. Now I'm in Vegas and loving life. The reasons are from cost of living, rising crime and politics. Although Vegas is still considered a 'blue' state, we are turning it red. However, and I say this to other Californians moving here, don't run away from your problem just to create same problems here.
the real reason isnt rising crime and politics.... It was cost of living. You just couldnt afford a gated affluent community like atherton, beverly hills, etc.
@@bleulesyeux5416 That's because Vegas is only a tourist city. The city relies heavily on keeping things presentable, whereas LA has some industrial rough spots.
And when people move to a new area and are buying homes for half the amount and then you hear an economist say that one of the most expensive homes is (something) million, you know what’s going to happen. Real Estate starts to go through the roof, cost of everything starts going up and up and then this area gets to b expensive to live in. How do you think big city’s got to be “big” city’s? They were once small towns until people found that living in the city was too expensive. Same old same old.
Ikr the neighborhood I live in houses cost 750-980k and they are only 2,500-3,800 sqft lol guy bought house across the street from me and he’s paying 4.7k a month
I left decades ago, could barely pay rent. I was able to buy a house and nice rental properties when I moved elsewhere. I'm now retired and wealthy from my properties, that never would have happened in California working as a hairdresser. Go where you'll grow.
I bought my home in 2018 in Huntington Beach.. I pay way less than the going rate for apartments in my area (for price transparency we pay $2800) it’s a mess. A lot of my friends are priced out. If I sell my only options are $900k plus homes putting ALL my equity in to cover the 20% downpayment on a house thats from the 50s.. so bad
Don’t ever sell. Huntington Beach is one of the best places in the country. I’ve been all over. It’s hard to beat the beauty of the California coast and demand to live there will never fully diminish.
@@tybarker5038 it’s hard to stay put for so long, we’re definitely staying for now since we won’t have a chance to get something else close by at the rate these prices are increasing.
You were fortunate to buy a home before exorbitantly high prices. I would keep that home if I were you. Unless the homelessness and crime become too much to deal with in your community. I moved out to afford housing and it was the best decision for my wife and I. I love California but their majority of democratic voters is ruining the state. Also, moving out of California due to its gun laws was a bonus.
I used to live out in the Inland Empire before moving close to the beach where I live now. During the Summer the smog is HORRENDOUS out there! Not to mention the oppressing heat and higher crime. If you need to work two jobs to avoid living in the Inland Empire, that's what you should do.
Here in the Santa Cruz County you have 2 families living in one home. Landlords could care less because they’re making big bucks. People just keep coming.
@Equality Nation well I remember when a certain texas governor got on an airplane and told all the Californians to come to Texas because ya'll wanted and needed us. Then they started to build up the far far north area in preparation for our arrival so I am confused 🙄Do we stay or do we go?
Thats because you are poor or in financial distress, some people have expensive furniture and they dont mind hiring people to come do all the moving and lifting for them...because money is not an issue. They dont make furniture like they used to, everything is made from sawdust covered in that cheap laminate.
The Inland Empire includes Temecula, Murrieta, Wildomar, Menifee, and Winchester going south towards San Diego except Winchester it’s near Hemet. Relatively reasonable housing and lower crime rates compared to the rest of the Inland Empire. These areas are going to change with the whole influx of people coming. So anyone living in these areas will need to brace themselves because a change is coming. Especially since you have UA-cam videos discussing how nice Temecula is. Also remember the heat in the summer is brutal and the above mentioned cities do not have jobs except restaurants, retail and service jobs. You will commute yes you will.
Menifee here. The city has seen a big boom in population, but also with it, crime I've never seen before. I've seen police chases and helicopters chasing people. Home prices are also 500K and above. LA people are bad in general
Unless you just love California Politics or have a Job that requires you to stay in the state, I honestly don't understand why anyone would move to the IE especially the more desert areas. If you are going to live in the Desert anyway, why wouldn't you just move to Southern Nevada, Arizona or even New Mexico and/or St. George Utah area? It kind of doesn't make sense to me. I am sure some want to be a little closer to their families in the southland but for the taxes and nonsense you have to put up with I really don't get it. I would rather have to travel an extra couple hours to see family than deal with California Crazy at this point. Of course if you agree with the direction California is going, well that makes sense as people on both sides will "vote with their feet" but to lose a half million people from a metro area is kind of a big deal, depending on the demographics, especially if they are business owners.
It's still cheaper than the oc or San Diego . People are comfortable where they are. Maybe they don't have a job lined up in any of those states you mentioned
@@ThroughMyEyes2020 All these states need Corrections Officers desperately. I don't think they are quite up to 35 yet but most have really good CHEAP or FREE benefits. I did it for a couple years when I first got married. It was by no means my worst job I have had but it was kind of making me cold and callous.
Lol, I'll take CA with all it's problems over any State in the union. Weather is one of the most important factors in quality of life. I hear eggs are expensive in Texas and homeless in Arizona.
My wife and I moved from Los Angeles to Fort Lauderdale, Florida back in 2010. Hard decision at the time being a lifelong Angelino, but looking back it was the greatest decision we ever made! We bought a house less than a mile from the beach that would have been totally out of our price range in SoCal. And then when the pandemic hit, there was absolutely no better place to be than Florida! While we got to enjoy the fresh air at the beach and the state parks, my fellow LA friends were on lock down for months on end and up in arms in Covid hysteria.
I struggled to pay rent in California then moved to Arizona and was able to purchase a house and multiple rental properties working as a hairdresser. I loved LA, but I blossomed in Az. Go where you'll grow. I'm retired now and my properties are worth $2+ million. I'll leave it all to my family so my grandkids and great grandkids will have an easier life. THAT is what generational wealth can do.
@@DA-wx9oz The WHOLE state has no healthcare? The WHOLE state has no respect towards women? The WHOLE state has hatred towards igbtq?? Such generalizations that are totally unfounded. You are not a source of insight.
Gas prices, cost of living, named all these things except what really matters, that there are more criminals and their families than there are average citizens and the criminals will vote for politicians that favor them instead of average citizens every time.
I say it all the time, the majority of criminals actually believe in wealth redistribution aka COMMUNISM. So half of us will try to make it, meanwhile the other half schemes on how to take it...
Stupid comment right here. If you’re so concerned about property tax, you’re in for a grim reality if you buy a home elsewhere. California has some of the best property tax laws. If you buy a home elsewhere, the value of your house gets readjusted for taxes
@@BillyBJohnson My property taxes now are $4,000.00 a year, vs. $13,000.00 a year in California. I don’t have kids, and I don’t care if the schools are worse in Las Vegas. The roads here are a million times better too, and my utility bills are HALF of what they were in California. Again, GLAD I moved away!!
@@BillyBJohnson Also, California may have “good” property tax laws, but regardless you’re taxed on the VALUE of your home. In California my home was $1.3 million. In Nevada my (newer, nicer, larger) home is $580K.
@@eddieg6436 What about the retired people who bought their houses cheap in the 90s? They can afford to still keep their homes today because of property tax laws. If they would’ve bought somewhere like Austin or Phoenix, they’d couldn’t afford it anymore
People tend to forget that California is a big place. You can find a house in the Sierra Nevada or North Eastern California (Lassen, Modoc, Shasta counties, etc.) for the same price as one in Nebraska.
yeah but with that comes limited job opps compared to the bigger cities, longer commutes and much colder weather that people who are used to the moderate temps might not like. They'll always be pros and cons.
Takes 2 and a half hours to get from Los Angeles to Moreno Valley during rush hour. I think that's only 70 miles and at peak time add an additional 15 mins. It's crazy
I left my home of Philadelphia to go to Delaware. I did so for two reasons, the rising cost of rent while on average, jobs here pay about 16-17 an hr. Not enough to afford to rent a $1200 one bedroom apt all on your own. Plus there's the crime that's going up like crazy
I left LA county for the IE but now I am seeing the people that were part of the reason why I left LA county moving into the area. Loud Cars, Cars with Loud Music at all times of the day, neighbors having parties on a Sunday night till 11pm or midnite with no regard for neighbors that go to work the next day and kids that have to go to school the next day.
I agree that we need a recession but the super rich and corporations will buy up the cheap houses and rent them out at exorbitant prices; thus, continuing the problem with no end in sight. What needs to happen is heavily restrict corporate landlords, heavily restrict the amount of houses one person can own, and decommodify housing altogether. Shelter isn't something that should be used as an investment or commodity where you can buy it off the shelf at a retail store. It's a NECESSITY. A necessity to living and society. I don't see how one person can own several properties, not use them whatsoever, AND STILL make some profit in the end without using it or even maintaining it.
If you are wanting to move and looking for affordability, come to Fort Wayne, Indiana. Second largest city in Indiana, was ranked cheapest cost of living in the US many times, and has great opportunity. A great home here will only cost you $200,000 and the school systems here are really good. Great place to raise a family and is a great place to start a business. Not the most exciting town yet, but come here and help us make it a more fun community!
My sister's been a n Hoosier up there for years! Seems to be a nice place when I've visited Lots in the way of Recreational activities Close enough to Chicago if you want to go there for Sports shopping 🛒 and Touristing! Good Hometown 😃 vibes Yeah!
here in the sierra nevada foothills we dont want or need bay area people and LA people bringing their NIMBY attitudes and politics...if you move somewhere adopt to the culture in which you move to..leave your past garbage in the garbage..not saying everyone does this but its the norm from my experience over the decades
Are you talking about the farm land areas? If so, aren't they being taken over by Mexican and other nationality cartels and buying off acres to grow huge fields of marijuana and shipping in illegals from the south by the hundreds to work for little to nothing because obviously they have no choice. I've recently watched a couple of specials/documentaries on UA-cam freelance journalist talking about it and how it's growing out of control.(Pun Heavily Intended)
I'm one of them. Paid $2000 for a one bedroom apartment and utilities are only piling on top of that. I had one month last year with a $350 electric bill. In a one bedroom! In Missouri my electric bill was never more than $130.
My electric bill throughout the winter in the DC metro was only $25/month. I live in a condo and have a gas fireplace that provides a lot of great cozy heat. I use LED lights and kept my thermostat at 73. On cold days, I would turn on my gas fireplace and it heated up my 2 bed/2 bath condo, very nicely. Though I kept my thermostat at 73, the temp read 84-86, due to the heat from my gas fireplace. My gas bill averaged 85-90 a month. During the spring/summer months, my gas bill is usually $20- $25 dollars and the electric bill is normally around $17- $20 a month. It is remarkable how much money I am saving in utilities, because when I previously rented an apartment, my average electric bill during the winter months was $300 and I also had to pay a gas bill too, which normally averaged around $100. The rent was $2300 and parking was $75 (but new residents were charged $125 for parking). It was a so called luxury building in the DC metro), with a rooftop pool and lots of amenities, but very costly. I feel so blessed and fortunate that I found a lovely 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom condo across the street from a park (and a mile from the luxury building that I previously rented). I closed in 2021 and was able to take advantage of the low mortgage interest rates. My mortgage/monthly condo assessment fee and utilities are less than what I was paying towards rent, utilities, parking, etc. Also, the best part is, my condo has appreciated in value and I have more space, and freedom to do what I want in my condo. My only regret is that I didn't have an opportunity to buy the condo on the top floor which is a duplex... oh well..
everything goes up in price, meanwhile wages are at an all time low. pay is either cut or stagnant, and top board executives along with investors are making massive profits.
There are alot of Californians that moved to the East Coast. I've met alot of them and I made the move 10 years ago way before the pandemic. Best Move of my Life
The East Coast doesn’t want you guys because your voting habits are terrible and turn the places you move to into another California. Please stay in your crappy state and don’t come east!
I have a lot of family and friends that moved out of California in the past few years. And San Bernardino which is the Inland Empire has a lot of homeless people. And the Inland Empire is also expensive. A 2 bedroom 1 bath duplex is $1675 or more a month and just a 1 bed 1 bath is sometimes the same amount.
payment plan after cancelling apartment lease. Make sure u find job and apartment before leaving and cancelling california lease. Leave things with family/friends.. sale other things. Become a minimalist until u build back up
i just sold a 2500 Sq ft , 3 bedroom, 2 bath house in San Berdu for $ 495 K. ( Feb 22nd COE ) I think the last 3 houses I sold were Hispanic families from the LA area. 1700 Sq ft 3 Br 2 Ba $ 450 K back in August. 1700 Sq Ft 4 Br 4 Ba $ 475 k back ib June. 2500 Sq Ft 3 Br 2 ba $ 510 k back in March. Have 2 houses left and i'm outta there. These were all former rentals i had up there.
California used to be a golden state. Now she becomes a Welfare state. Her population is about 40 million but 15 million on Medical? Before I think there was a law that one would be on Welfare max 5 years on one’s life time (?). Now one were on Welfare as long as one wished.
I wonder why all those people who are moving to the IE now didn't do that from the start. It's *always* been cheaper to live there--could have been saving a lot of money all this time.
I think it's the dream of owning a single family home. I live in the SF Bay Area and we're seeing a similar exodus of middle income families to the central valley where 500-600k still buys you the American drean. In the SF Bay Area, 500-600k only gets you into a 2 bedroom/1 ba condo. In SF or Oakland the American dream costs over a million dollars. There's a few deals in Oakland, but most middle income people wouldn't want to live in those areas.
Being from Florida I kinda chuckle when people bring up politics. It's the cost of living that drives most. Like in my area 2 years ago you could make 65k a year and buy a home. Now you need to make 110k a year. But the average wage in Florida is still 65k a year. So when people start leaving Florida are they going to say it's because of the stupid things DeSantis is doing? No, it's because folks don't get paid enough and can't afford to stay there any longer.
I agree, housing as a market based commodity, acts independently of woke or neo-confederate politics. Where FL has the advantage is that right leaning polices favor deregulation which means more housing may get built to bring prices down. But is it really wise to keep building in a state that will be hit the hardest by rising seas?
@@bayoak Good point. FL will come crashing down when banks will no longer offer 30 year mortgages in the coastal areas of FL. We're already seeing home owners insurance taking some extreme steps upward too. That will be the other catalyst. No regulation against both institutions will lead to exorbitant pricing to the consumer, which will drive departures. Politics aside, people respond most when their wallet takes a hit.
Also now if you're a person like me who is considering moving out of California. The question becomes where do you go , because now the type of WEATHER in that area, has become a very important part of your relocation decision.
I live in Santa Ana and i work in a cvs, while at work if someone goes in and walks out with a lot of stuff without paying we can't do anything cause if we do we're the one's being the villain and criminal is the victim
This is why you'll always work retail, you're not even smart enough to understand the topic being discussed. But anyways, I'll bite. Let's say you were able to do something about it. Would you really want to? Are you going to risk your life and limb to protect CVS from losing a Snicker's chocolate bar? Are you being paid to be a mindless cashier or a body guard?
The best summary of why people are leaving California. The politicians have turned the criminal into the victim. I'm leaving California as soon as the youngest kid finishes high school.
I live in the IE but relocating to our area makes our traffic much worse. The infrastructure is not in place to handle this influx and builders keep building!! Complete frustration because it seems that nobody is addressing those issues. Money talks unfortunately.
My family bought a brand new home in temecula back in 2003 for $325k...... I just checked out of curiosity and the exact same home is now going for $696k
For real I got a friend paying 1600 a month for a 2 bedroom apt in Houston and that just seems high to me. Houston?? Grew up there, place is a toilet. 2 beds should be under 1k there.
There are many people who sold homes in CA and moved TX, but found out that they can't stand TX and that property taxes are higher. They wish they could move back, but now they're priced out.
The exodus from California is real. I live in Philadelphia and I got neighbors who moved from San Francisco to Philly in Nov 2022 . I have another friend who lives in San Diego thinking about buying a house. He said he even would move to Kensington area in Philly, because at least he has a chance to own a home. He said its almost impossible to buy a home in SD.
@@rackss1661 I or anyone posted said that, but I would chose Philly over Houston or Florida. Florida got way too many sinkholes and Houston is gone if sea level goes up 6 more inches. NC nice i would move there.
Go Back! I-5 is closed. Oregon is full. No vacancy. Stay in California and change it to be how you want it. Don’t move to someone else’s home and change their life to suit you.
Just as many people are comming into California as out of. If cali was losing all this population cause everyone was moving their wouldn’t still be a housing shortage and their would be way more vacant places but there’s not.
Most people aren't leaving the state, those that are moving are primarily moving from one part of the state to another. Mostly, from inner city areas to suburban areas or from large coastal cities to medium sized cities an hour or two away but still commuting to coastal cities for work. E.g. Moving from Oakland to Sacramento, San Jose to Modesto or LA to San Bernardino and commuting.
California lost congressional seat couple years ago and will probably lose more. This can only happen with population decline relative to the other states so this guy’s an idiot…..
You guys can move to Hereford, AZ. We have great weather; the summer is in the low 90s, and it even snows in the winter. You can buy a house with five beds for less than $3000; the food is cheap, great places to hike, Care Canyon, Ramsey Canyon, Huachuca mountains, San Pedro River, Coronado trail, and many more. Taxes are meager! Copper Queen Hospital is where we get medical care, which is excellent!
Im moving to vegas at least over there I can legally carry a gun. Someone tried a strong arm robbery on me here in long beach crime is getting bad here even by long beach standards lots of crazy homeless coming from L.A on the blue line
Twice there were propositions on the ballot here in California that were flawless. They were going to make it so local governments would enforce a cap on rent. But somehow millions of people fell for the anti-ads that pointed out something that technically isn't false, but in reality well, kind of is false. Like for example they would point out how it wouldn't improve things but used the fact that it got rid of the old system to say it when the new system that would have replaced it if the proposition had passed would have simply been considerably a lot better. Voters fell for that trick twice. An organization tried to reduce the cost of living, but voters voted No each time. It is so frustrating!
The rich/OWNERS of these properties paid for those ads that may have tricked voters - they want to make as much $$$ as possible off renters until they're forced to do otherwise.
No one was tricked but you. Rent control doesn’t work, and never has. Read up on it. The only really solution is building if more housing, but homeowners vote building down. THATS the problem in CA. Rent control won’t lead to a mass supply of housing all of the sudden, sorry.
I know many families are leaving because of the laws regarding childhood vaccine and covid vaccine People want body autonomy for themselves and their children
Californians look at the homeless with shock and horror. People from out of state look past the homelessness and at Californians with shock and horror. $3500 a month for a box? Thats the real problem. Homelessness is one thing. Paying insane prices for a box is completely looney.
Exactly
Yeah it’s expensive but it’s not “$3500 for a box” unless it’s a nice building in a a prime location!
Nah we see both if you're intelligent. Policies affect both those things.
be sure to continue to vote Democrat!
@Jack Napier lol so delusional. open your eyes!
People might be moving, but the traffic is still horrible.
Mexicans
@@NAT-turners-Revenge and blacks.
its because they are wrong the traffic is worse because of more and more people.
Because there were already a ton of people in the state to begin with, kind of like those episodes of Hoarders where they clean out a lot of stuff in the home but there is still a lot of stuff to go.
Rich people are moving out. All the poor people are staying
When people reach their boiling point after living check to check, paying half if not more for rent/housing, working 2 jobs, and only see the hole they are in get deeper and deeper, they will make changes. Relocate even if it means leaving your home state. I worked 12-hour shifts 6 days a week for a year to save $$ to exit California and relocate on the amazing Oregon Coast in a small rural town where we are living in peace and our community respects one another and our environment. Peace Out California.
Go to college and you can live anywhere you want
You gonna pay for my college? I never went to college because I was/am poor and have nobody to help with that. It’s either slave away or starve to death going to college??? Not everyone is as fortunate to have everything handed to them all while looking down on the less fortunate
@@OrganizationXIII lmao. That's the promise they sold to you puppets for awhile.
Or go live in the wilderness away from the city and live off the land as what its for.
@@OrganizationXIII Mark Zuckerberg and Steve Jobs didn't need to do that!
I'm hoping at some point so many people will leave California it'll become affordable again for those of us toughing it out.
As a native California I agree.
I lived in the LA area decades ago. Geographically it's a wonderful place to live, so close to everything, weather is nice, ocean, etc. I was struggling back in the 1980s there. I had to move if I wanted to buy a home even back then. Nothing new about being priced out of the LA area. I'm glad I didn't wait. I could only afford rent in California, in Arizona I bought a house and multiple rental properties working as a hairdresser. Move to where you will grow.
If you couldn't buy a house in the 80's. Wow. Glad you left.
Nah. Not close to everything. Not “close to everything.” /
If you moved out of CA, after being here all your life, congratulations.. you made it out 😅
Most of them end up coming back.
@@thefox47545 wrong
@@thefox47545lol no
@@pancakebacon684 He's right and wrong.
The ones who don't move back can't afford to move back or else they would.
@@pancakebacon684 some a very few
The problem is that we have 49 other states homeless population here in California, they save up 50 bucks and greyhound there way west for the weather , then they end up never going east. A lot of people assume those people are from here when in fact they tell u themselves they came here
Not saying that doesn’t happen, but California, Oregon, and Washington all have lax policies towards the homeless. Those policies become a draw themselves.
Other states will lock up their homeless. California doesn't
YUP! I see no mention of that from anywhere.
Other states even send them.
Then jail them, they only come because they know you guys are soft.
Leaving that state was one of the best decision I've ever made.
@@TheThugNasty Nope.
@@TheThugNasty I'm not even originally from CA. So whatever preconceived opinions you have on people from there has never applied to me.
Good riddance.
Good ridence..Karenville, BFE sounds like a right place for you..
go back, we don't want you here (outside of CA)
Unfortunately the people leaving New York, California and the other places are in turn creating problems in the places they are moving to because they are pricing out the locals in those places. Eventually those places will face increases in the same problems (traffic, crime, homelessness, etc.), so it's only a temporary reprieve. One example is Florida--it's now the most unaffordable state to live in (low income, high cost of housing). Also happening in Idaho, Montana and elsewhere.
Houses in florida isn’t that crazy expensive theirs a lot of houses that costs $300s that’s not bad.
Yep. You’re spot on. Utah is the same. Housing costs are so more because one of the reasons is people moving here from out of state. Mostly California
Best for homeowners. More equity for them.
There will always be winners and losers in the market
Bruhh people from other states are moving to la us local are the ones moving because y’all are coming here
People look at us in confusion for staying in California, then get upset at the result when we move somewhere more affordable. 🤷🏻♀️
I left LA 20 years ago and have no regrets! I was born and raised in LA and saw the decline since the 90’s. Sad that my home town has turned into this.
LA sucks lol. Never liked the city. Glad I bought a home early.
Man, I wish I could move out from L.A.! Heck, California in general! This place sucks! It's not worth it.
@@MikeAruba69 you hit the nail right on the head. You got to have the funds to move.
People talk about the politics as if, a politician is going to extend his/her hand and help finance...
Noooo really? 3k+ apartments with drug addicts camped out in front 😂
Forget out front, theres a drug addict currently living IN my building a few doors down from me. They served him a 3 day eviction notice but he won't budge so we have to hear yelling, punching, slamming and stomping all day and all night long. Tenants are even scared to walk down the hallway, get in the elevator with him or even throw their trash out. He has broken doors and windows. The cops have been called multiple times yet when they show up, he puts on his docile voice and in great lying addict form, manipulates the cops. Yet when they leave the yelling continues. Clearly, he is more protected and has more rights than the law abiding tenants have.
@@lolacookie453 Does ur cell phone record audio/video?
@@lol_05.76 yes but I wouldn’t feel comfortable pointing my phone camera towards him, no telling what he’d do. I do have a camera over my front door that picks up him yelling in the hallway and can even pick up when he yells in his apartment. That’s how loud it gets.
@@lolacookie453 What a bad situation. I think I'd get the heck out of there, but it's so easy for me to sit here and type that out in a UA-cam comment than it is to logistically make that happen.
@@michaelb.8953 thank you! sadly we already lost a great tenant bc of him, she has been here for 17 years. I have considered leaving myself, but love my place so holding out hope he leaves or the sheriffs department escorts him out. He was supposed to leave four days ago, today I saw him bringing collapsed boxes and what looked like packing materials into his apartment. Praying it’s to pack up and go! 🙏
They cut our savings in half and doubled the price of everything, that’s why everyone needs to move out of the nice areas. And I’m sure Black Rock and the Chinese will buy up all the prime real estate. The price gouging going on in CA is the stuff of nightmares. I was talking to a friend in TX about the price of goods, she couldn’t believe how high they are here. The economic destruction is deliberate and I’m sick of it.
be sure to continue to vote Democrat!
Make sure you move to another state, so you can ruin the local culture in your new location!
@@johnnymcblaze I would love to ruin everything in your state.
I just watched a bunch of videos on larry. That's weird. Owns a bunch of n norfolk southern
Keep voting for the clowns in ca.. what u see is what u get!!! Love it!!
many are leaving the state for lower taxes and a better quality of life
Yes, taxes are pretty bad but I have a very good quality of life in LA. Then again, I do own real estate in LA so that might be helping a bit.
@@thefox47545if you own property, life isn't so bad. I'm one of those who moved out of north county SD because I didn't own property. I can admit I couldn't afford living there anymore. Being realistic, I purchased a home in another state and live a comfortable life now.
I used to long for OC, but I now realize that the Vegas Valley is the way to go. CA sucks so bad. Btw, I"m in the ex-tech bubble.
They are also moving in huge numbers to the So Cal Deserts (where I've lived most of my life) and many people are being pushed out by the skyrocketing prices HERE now and/or the lack of available housing. It really sucks for longtime residents. There's a lot of pushback: Go Back to L.A. bumper stickers, t-shirts and all.
This is what I don't understand. If people are moving because of high cost, they should look at the usual numbers and NOT give into the new higher rates albeit it's less than L.A. Not only are they still getting screwed but they ruin it for everyone else already in that area.
Feel bad for you guys. And most of those people aren’t even from California!
Cost of living has gone up everywhere. It’s not from Californians moving. It’s inflation and this housing bubble.
@@highguycomics3869 Yep. An entitled loser who owns the desert. You nailed it.
Working remotely is what's making us move to the inland empire and buying houses it's only going to get worse so the local people need to stay up their game the cost of living is never going back down .
Same in central CA. The cities are building houses by the miles. They're building nice- luxury homes, not affordable housing, apartments etc. They're making the affordable parts of CA unaffordable and pushing for the lower middle class to be eliminated. Houses with no space, like LA, no backyards.
What will probably happen is the overstock of office real estate would be converted into affordable housing. It will be weird, but achievable. Low earners as a whole don’t care for upkeep and maintenance as they shouldn’t since they rent. Landlords do a horrible job filling in the gaps. Communal housing in office spaces should offer a good solution. Just don’t know exactly how it will look.
There is no money to entice builders to build affordable homes when the same land can produce a higher priced home for sale. I don't blame them, why do the work for nothing when you can make some profit for your investment? Maybe give builders an incentive by the state to make it affordable for them to build less pricy homes AND only sell them to owner occupied buyers.
@@eckankar7756 when the homes are built in cities that are notorious for having a low income population or working class it is not a matter of profit but a matter of phasing out people. Everyone wants profits but morally you are kicking out the same people who have lived in your city for 20-40 years. Which becomes a moral quandary. But business capitalism has no morals. Perfect example of what we dont need.
@@Eoj24 Poor people don't pay the bills. It's a fact of business. Companies are not charities. Everyone moving from one location to another is dislocating someone there. People selling out in California and buying cheaper in Las Vegas displace people in Vegas. People from the USA living abroad for the economics of that country displace people from that country.
If you don't do what you need to do to earn more money so you can afford more there are few willing to lower their product to provide for low income. Instead of shaking your fist and demanding for something to be cheaper, step up as an adult and learn to become more in your life so you can afford more and provide for your family more. Such a massive lack of willingness to participate in one's own well being.
Same thing is happening here in San Diego. And yet…”we don’t have an overpopulation problem.”
theres a police chase literally everyday in L.A im not surprised people are leaving.
Who's leaving?
I haven't seen or even heard of anyone moving out of State.
I take that back.
Alot of homeless people who lived elsewhere are going back to their home state
Those aren't high speed chases. Their residents trying to high tail it out of California. 😅🚐🚓
@@jeffalbillar7625you're delusional. I see your same comment trying to convince yourself that everything in L.A. is fine and dandy.
@@Mrh3rpd3rps I never mentioned L.A.
I'm not from L.A.
But since you mentioned it, Los Angeles ain't nothing compared to what it was in the 80s and 90s.
Police chases. Horrific traffic fatalities. Rapes. Murders. Kidnappings.
LA is rife with all the things that make it a friendly, happy, wonderful place to raise a family with a future.
FACTS 💯 I'VE BEEN HEARING THE CHOPPER 🚁 ALMOST EVERY NIGHT 🌃 LIKE IN LA 😂
Same here
You hipster are new to the city 😂helicopter nothing new we love it
30 years of da chappar.
Chopper means felony stop.
Stolen car chases?
Leaving in less than 1 year 🙌. CA will only get worse, losing a lot of high earners, crime will keep rising as well as rent. No point in staying here for the average Joe like myself. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a new tax on something to compensate the loss.
be sure to continue to vote Democrat!
The state is losing all sorts of people, not just high income families, I'm not poor but definitely not wealthy and left 3 years ago.
Best decision you will ever make. Happy trails to your new home. Enjoy !
@@AlistairBalister be sure to not vote Democrat ! smh blue woke idiot's causing all the problems in this country .
My first apt. In Huntington Beach in 1972 was 144.00/month for 2 bed, 1 bath. Those same ones are now 2300.00/month and yes I left Calif. years ago.
The movie Escape from LA sums it up. John Carpenter’s vision was uncanny.
Blade runner 2049 is just as prophetic.
People who are moving to the IE have never spent a summer in the IE. lol
I'm from LA and now in IE. Doesn't seem any hotter than LA. Besides, everyone has an air conditioning. So much more pleasant here.
@@YA-qj8fx closer to vegas and big bear too...
@Y A yup i just moved out here too from echo park LA ! Nomore looking for parking lol
Ahhh typical LA resident. Keep living in a hole man. You will own nothing and be happy.
@@Realsesar we voted for biden! he was suppose to make everything free and spread the wealth!!!
Out here in Phoenix the prices skyrocketed to California levels. Lived here all my life now I’m being forced out due to Californians. It’s ridiculous.
Blame all the people selling to californians. They can simply say "wont sell to californians!" But hey guess what? Arizonans want money just like everybody else! So thats why they sell to Californians offering money 💰
Fcku Arizona & California
It happened 20 years ago in San Francisco. Been happening all over the country the last 10 years. Now it’s your turn
You're nowhere near CA prices. 3 bedroom houses start at $1M in Orange County unless they are run down or in the hood.
Don't just blame us. Lots of snowbirds fromthe Northeast moving to AZ.
I'm about to dip too. Everything is way too expensive. My SoCalGas bill alone is now 200% more expensive then it was 2 months ago. I'm so done with the expenses.
Mine was 350% higher! Sign up for Level Pay.
I moved out of Ca soon after retiring. Now I'm in Vegas and loving life. The reasons are from cost of living, rising crime and politics. Although Vegas is still considered a 'blue' state, we are turning it red. However, and I say this to other Californians moving here, don't run away from your problem just to create same problems here.
and what did you do, boomer?
the real reason isnt rising crime and politics.... It was cost of living. You just couldnt afford a gated affluent community like atherton, beverly hills, etc.
Lol, I just stayed the last 2 nights in Downtown Las Vegas. Dont try to act like you dont have the hooligans and homeless there.
@@danbroadhead72 I will take downtown Vegas over downtown LA any day.
@@bleulesyeux5416 That's because Vegas is only a tourist city. The city relies heavily on keeping things presentable, whereas LA has some industrial rough spots.
And when people move to a new area and are buying homes for half the amount and then you hear an economist say that one of the most expensive homes is (something) million, you know what’s going to happen. Real Estate starts to go through the roof, cost of everything starts going up and up and then this area gets to b expensive to live in. How do you think big city’s got to be “big” city’s? They were once small towns until people found that living in the city was too expensive. Same old same old.
You have to be making $10,000+ a month for one person to afford a 1 bedroom apartment in LA
Soon you'll need $10,000 a month to live anywhere in the country.
Lies but I get your point
it's funny how capitalism warps the human mind.
Lol not true. I know people who make less and own homes
This is true
DON'T START DRAMA IN THE IE.IT'S BEAUTIFUL OUT HERE ENJOY IT 💙
I feel sorry for the OG IE'ers. The take over will be real. Thank you for hospitality. IE is dope. Coming from an LA native. Have a good one. 👍
be sure to continue to vote Democrat!
Yes we are chill out here we don’t like the drama but we will get crazy 😜
San Bernardino natives have been waiting years for these local jobs now we have to fight for them hopefully they will look for work in Ontario
IE suuuuuuuucks! Same with OC.
People are not leaving because of pandemics, but because of greed, corporate greed. It’s not more complex than that.
And leaving to states with less corporate greed?
The IE has a lot expensive areas too. Idk why they think it's gonna be so much cheaper.
Ikr the neighborhood I live in houses cost 750-980k and they are only 2,500-3,800 sqft lol guy bought house across the street from me and he’s paying 4.7k a month
Same style houses in LA or Orange county will literally add over $200,000+ to the price compared to IE
Still cheaper than LA and OC, but yeah IE is definetly getting more expensive now.
Thinking about moving out too. Leaving my work and school behind but i think its worth it
I left LA for the IE. Couldn’t be happier! I can now drive to local and favorite places with an easy drive.
@@Realsesar what part of IE you live?
I left decades ago, could barely pay rent. I was able to buy a house and nice rental properties when I moved elsewhere. I'm now retired and wealthy from my properties, that never would have happened in California working as a hairdresser. Go where you'll grow.
You know things are bad when you gotta move INTO the Inland Empire 😳
It’s not bad. It has its bad areas but there is a lot of space.
I would much rather live in a city like Murrieta or Temecula than live in LA county at all tbh.
😆
Way better than LA 😳
😂truth!
I bought my home in 2018 in Huntington Beach.. I pay way less than the going rate for apartments in my area (for price transparency we pay $2800) it’s a mess. A lot of my friends are priced out. If I sell my only options are $900k plus homes putting ALL my equity in to cover the 20% downpayment on a house thats from the 50s.. so bad
Don’t ever sell. Huntington Beach is one of the best places in the country. I’ve been all over. It’s hard to beat the beauty of the California coast and demand to live there will never fully diminish.
be sure to continue to vote Democrat!
@@AlistairBalister lmfao how everyone assumes we’re all Dems. I love my guns 🇺🇸
@@tybarker5038 it’s hard to stay put for so long, we’re definitely staying for now since we won’t have a chance to get something else close by at the rate these prices are increasing.
You were fortunate to buy a home before exorbitantly high prices. I would keep that home if I were you. Unless the homelessness and crime become too much to deal with in your community. I moved out to afford housing and it was the best decision for my wife and I. I love California but their majority of democratic voters is ruining the state. Also, moving out of California due to its gun laws was a bonus.
I used to live out in the Inland Empire before moving close to the beach where I live now. During the Summer the smog is HORRENDOUS out there! Not to mention the oppressing heat and higher crime. If you need to work two jobs to avoid living in the Inland Empire, that's what you should do.
I've seen it while driving through, it looks bad......
It is so ghetto over there, no wonder it’s cheaper
All parts of the inland empire are not the same just like Los Angeles. Rancho and Chino Hills is different than Rialto and Fontana.
I’d rather live in my car and do gig work on the coast than pay rent to the IE slumlords lmao
Obviously, you weren't in Murrieta/Temecula area. It's beautiful here.
Here in the Santa Cruz County you have 2 families living in one home. Landlords could care less because they’re making big bucks. People just keep coming.
Moved to Texas in 2006 from SoCal to never look back. Best decision I’ve ever made.
So did I...people are generous, real and kind.
@Equality Nation well I remember when a certain texas governor got on an airplane and told all the Californians to come to Texas because ya'll wanted and needed us. Then they started to build up the far far north area in preparation for our arrival so I am confused 🙄Do we stay or do we go?
Hey me too! Lol September of 2006. Crazy blessed to have moved when so cal was just starting to get bad.
I would sell all my furniture on craigslist than pay a moving company.
Exactly glad I know of one person out here who isn’t stupid enough to pay storages or moving companies
Good for you, you still had time to wait and sell. Not all buyers would buy all your furnitures in one day or two lol
It is nice to have options though
Or donate it. Most things aren’t worth the cost of moving or storing them.
Thats because you are poor or in financial distress, some people have expensive furniture and they dont mind hiring people to come do all the moving and lifting for them...because money is not an issue. They dont make furniture like they used to, everything is made from sawdust covered in that cheap laminate.
That why don't sell your home to people that gonna make it to condos sell it to family people that work hard and are planning to buy a house
you can still stay in your city if you live in a tiny home or live together- nothing wrong with that during hard times.
The Inland Empire includes Temecula, Murrieta, Wildomar, Menifee, and Winchester going south towards San Diego except Winchester it’s near Hemet. Relatively reasonable housing and lower crime rates compared to the rest of the Inland Empire. These areas are going to change with the whole influx of people coming. So anyone living in these areas will need to brace themselves because a change is coming. Especially since you have UA-cam videos discussing how nice Temecula is. Also remember the heat in the summer is brutal and the above mentioned cities do not have jobs except restaurants, retail and service jobs. You will commute yes you will.
Temecula was nice. Now it resembling lake Elsinore in some parts
I live in Murrieta and it saddens me to see how our city is over populated and gets worse every year.. 😢
Menifee here. The city has seen a big boom in population, but also with it, crime I've never seen before. I've seen police chases and helicopters chasing people. Home prices are also 500K and above. LA people are bad in general
They will ruin it like everything else dems touch.
Not for long. The more people, the more crime.
Newsom has been the UHaul man of the year since 2019
Unless you just love California Politics or have a Job that requires you to stay in the state, I honestly don't understand why anyone would move to the IE especially the more desert areas. If you are going to live in the Desert anyway, why wouldn't you just move to Southern Nevada, Arizona or even New Mexico and/or St. George Utah area?
It kind of doesn't make sense to me. I am sure some want to be a little closer to their families in the southland but for the taxes and nonsense you have to put up with I really don't get it. I would rather have to travel an extra couple hours to see family than deal with California Crazy at this point. Of course if you agree with the direction California is going, well that makes sense as people on both sides will "vote with their feet" but to lose a half million people from a metro area is kind of a big deal, depending on the demographics, especially if they are business owners.
Nah. Not anyone. Not “anyone.” Not “It kind of doesn’t make sense to me.” Not Crazy. Not “Crazy.” /
It's still cheaper than the oc or San Diego . People are comfortable where they are. Maybe they don't have a job lined up in any of those states you mentioned
If i can get payed $35 hourly working security in another state I would! Unfortunately, I'm stuck here with that pay and it is still not enough!😫
be sure to continue to vote Democrat!
@@ThroughMyEyes2020 All these states need Corrections Officers desperately. I don't think they are quite up to 35 yet but most have really good CHEAP or FREE benefits. I did it for a couple years when I first got married. It was by no means my worst job I have had but it was kind of making me cold and callous.
Lol, I'll take CA with all it's problems over any State in the union. Weather is one of the most important factors in quality of life. I hear eggs are expensive in Texas and homeless in Arizona.
If you were born and raised in CA, no other state will compare.
My wife and I moved from Los Angeles to Fort Lauderdale, Florida back in 2010. Hard decision at the time being a lifelong Angelino, but looking back it was the greatest decision we ever made! We bought a house less than a mile from the beach that would have been totally out of our price range in SoCal. And then when the pandemic hit, there was absolutely no better place to be than Florida! While we got to enjoy the fresh air at the beach and the state parks, my fellow LA friends were on lock down for months on end and up in arms in Covid hysteria.
Enjoy the heat humidity bugs hurricanes gators low pay bad healthcare .
@@e-ticket5625 and don’t forget the wannabe dictator jackass governor!!
lol you traded California for Florida? I guess thats an upgrade...? 😅
I struggled to pay rent in California then moved to Arizona and was able to purchase a house and multiple rental properties working as a hairdresser. I loved LA, but I blossomed in Az. Go where you'll grow. I'm retired now and my properties are worth $2+ million. I'll leave it all to my family so my grandkids and great grandkids will have an easier life. THAT is what generational wealth can do.
@@DA-wx9oz The WHOLE state has no healthcare? The WHOLE state has no respect towards women? The WHOLE state has hatred towards igbtq?? Such generalizations that are totally unfounded. You are not a source of insight.
My family and I just decided to leave CA... the crime alone was a huge deciding factor.
You didn't consider Irvine area?
Congrats hope you make your escape.
Will be leaving with you soon.
A bunch of idiots leaving a nice place.😂
W decision
Gas prices, cost of living, named all these things except what really matters, that there are more criminals and their families than there are average citizens and the criminals will vote for politicians that favor them instead of average citizens every time.
Criminals out number average hard working citizens? That's ridiculous
I say it all the time, the majority of criminals actually believe in wealth redistribution aka COMMUNISM. So half of us will try to make it, meanwhile the other half schemes on how to take it...
For every person that moves out of California 10 show up the roads prove it they get more busy everyday.
What planet do you live on?
Notice the politicians of the states where everyone is leaving.
My PROPERTY TAXES alone in L.A. for my home were over a thousand a month…..just the taxes. …I moved!
Stupid comment right here. If you’re so concerned about property tax, you’re in for a grim reality if you buy a home elsewhere. California has some of the best property tax laws. If you buy a home elsewhere, the value of your house gets readjusted for taxes
@@BillyBJohnson be sure to continue to vote Democrat!
@@BillyBJohnson My property taxes now are $4,000.00 a year, vs. $13,000.00 a year in California. I don’t have kids, and I don’t care if the schools are worse in Las Vegas. The roads here are a million times better too, and my utility bills are HALF of what they were in California. Again, GLAD I moved away!!
@@BillyBJohnson Also, California may have “good” property tax laws, but regardless you’re taxed on the VALUE of your home. In California my home was $1.3 million. In Nevada my (newer, nicer, larger) home is $580K.
@@eddieg6436 What about the retired people who bought their houses cheap in the 90s? They can afford to still keep their homes today because of property tax laws. If they would’ve bought somewhere like Austin or Phoenix, they’d couldn’t afford it anymore
People tend to forget that California is a big place. You can find a house in the Sierra Nevada or North Eastern California (Lassen, Modoc, Shasta counties, etc.) for the same price as one in Nebraska.
Shhhh. 🤫
Don't lead them up here
Regardless of the price, they are still in the state and will be subject to the insane Kalifornia laws!!!
yeah but with that comes limited job opps compared to the bigger cities, longer commutes and much colder weather that people who are used to the moderate temps might not like. They'll always be pros and cons.
@@tribzman3977 🤦🏼 "I might be on the brink of homelessness but at least I'm not a little cold". Are you proud of that, Timmy?
Takes 2 and a half hours to get from Los Angeles to Moreno Valley during rush hour. I think that's only 70 miles and at peak time add an additional 15 mins. It's crazy
That’s Moreno Valley. Other places in the IE are closer like Rialto or Rancho
I use to do that drive in 40 mins
@@Realsesar no, they’re not. It’s only a 5 mile difference
@@kendrickmelendez8185 No it's 30 miles. I commute everyday.
@kendrickmelendez8185 man thats good. It sucks now even using fasttrak. I use it each time and save maybe 16 mins lol
I think she meant to say more people are moving out of Los Angeles.....and into other states.
I left my home of Philadelphia to go to Delaware. I did so for two reasons, the rising cost of rent while on average, jobs here pay about 16-17 an hr. Not enough to afford to rent a $1200 one bedroom apt all on your own.
Plus there's the crime that's going up like crazy
Philly rent went up a lot. but it still not close to LA or SD rent
I left LA county for the IE but now I am seeing the people that were part of the reason why I left LA county moving into the area. Loud Cars, Cars with Loud Music at all times of the day, neighbors having parties on a Sunday night till 11pm or midnite with no regard for neighbors that go to work the next day and kids that have to go to school the next day.
a deep reccesion is needed to reset everything once again but that is the last thing we should wish for
I agree that we need a recession but the super rich and corporations will buy up the cheap houses and rent them out at exorbitant prices; thus, continuing the problem with no end in sight. What needs to happen is heavily restrict corporate landlords, heavily restrict the amount of houses one person can own, and decommodify housing altogether. Shelter isn't something that should be used as an investment or commodity where you can buy it off the shelf at a retail store. It's a NECESSITY. A necessity to living and society. I don't see how one person can own several properties, not use them whatsoever, AND STILL make some profit in the end without using it or even maintaining it.
We need it already
If you are wanting to move and looking for affordability, come to Fort Wayne, Indiana. Second largest city in Indiana, was ranked cheapest cost of living in the US many times, and has great opportunity. A great home here will only cost you $200,000 and the school systems here are really good. Great place to raise a family and is a great place to start a business. Not the most exciting town yet, but come here and help us make it a more fun community!
My sister's been a n Hoosier up there for years! Seems to be a nice place when I've visited Lots in the way of Recreational activities Close enough to Chicago if you want to go there for Sports shopping 🛒 and Touristing! Good Hometown 😃 vibes Yeah!
I’ve lived in all those counties, I moved to central California and it’s better then LA, Orange County and the Inland Empire put together.
But yet central is loaded with meth heads
here in the sierra nevada foothills we dont want or need bay area people and LA people bringing their NIMBY attitudes and politics...if you move somewhere adopt to the culture in which you move to..leave your past garbage in the garbage..not saying everyone does this but its the norm from my experience over the decades
Are you talking about the farm land areas? If so, aren't they being taken over by Mexican and other nationality cartels and buying off acres to grow huge fields of marijuana and shipping in illegals from the south by the hundreds to work for little to nothing because obviously they have no choice. I've recently watched a couple of specials/documentaries on UA-cam freelance journalist talking about it and how it's growing out of control.(Pun Heavily Intended)
@@jamesmayday657 That’s everywhere
But it's BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING! I'll keep my Dodgers and Kings season tickets and my house in LA thank you very much.
How is traffic still bad 😢
I left because of traffic long ago. You spend so much of your precious life on the smelly road.
@@guangxidavidliu one hour and thirty minutes for only 27 miles 🤒🤯
This is totally misleading and false info.
@@davemitchell6281 people moving out
@@Keepthinking568cus half a million don't make a difference of 39 millions +
California used to be the place to be I visited
My Uncle there it's cool but I can see why many are leaving now ,take care y'all .
I'm one of them. Paid $2000 for a one bedroom apartment and utilities are only piling on top of that. I had one month last year with a $350 electric bill. In a one bedroom! In Missouri my electric bill was never more than $130.
My electric bill throughout the winter in the DC metro was only $25/month. I live in a condo and have a gas fireplace that provides a lot of great cozy heat. I use LED lights and kept my thermostat at 73. On cold days, I would turn on my gas fireplace and it heated up my 2 bed/2 bath condo, very nicely. Though I kept my thermostat at 73, the temp read 84-86, due to the heat from my gas fireplace. My gas bill averaged 85-90 a month. During the spring/summer months, my gas bill is usually $20- $25 dollars and the electric bill is normally around $17- $20 a month.
It is remarkable how much money I am saving in utilities, because when I previously rented an apartment, my average electric bill during the winter months was $300 and I also had to pay a gas bill too, which normally averaged around $100. The rent was $2300 and parking was $75 (but new residents were charged $125 for parking). It was a so called luxury building in the DC metro), with a rooftop pool and lots of amenities, but very costly.
I feel so blessed and fortunate that I found a lovely 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom condo across the street from a park (and a mile from the luxury building that I previously rented). I closed in 2021 and was able to take advantage of the low mortgage interest rates. My mortgage/monthly condo assessment fee and utilities are less than what I was paying towards rent, utilities, parking, etc. Also, the best part is, my condo has appreciated in value and I have more space, and freedom to do what I want in my condo. My only regret is that I didn't have an opportunity to buy the condo on the top floor which is a duplex... oh well..
everything goes up in price, meanwhile wages are at an all time low. pay is either cut or stagnant, and top board executives along with investors are making massive profits.
Inland empire traffic sucks big time. You will spend more time on Interstate 15 than at home...
It's inland, but no empire...
What the. Not true.
Are we comparing the 15 with the 405?
@@Realsesar drive north on the interstate 15 at 3:30 p.m. from Escondido to Temecula....bring a snack and water..
There are alot of Californians that moved to the East Coast. I've met alot of them and I made the move 10 years ago way before the pandemic. Best Move of my Life
The East Coast doesn’t want you guys because your voting habits are terrible and turn the places you move to into another California. Please stay in your crappy state and don’t come east!
Depends what part of the IE. Some parts are expensive and some parts “ghetto”
I live in a beautiful and safe city in the IE. love it here.
What parts are expensive?
@@YA-qj8fx what part? Just curious I’m in the ie too :)
Inland empire is nice
I have a lot of family and friends that moved out of California in the past few years. And San Bernardino which is the Inland Empire has a lot of homeless people. And the Inland Empire is also expensive. A 2 bedroom 1 bath duplex is $1675 or more a month and just a 1 bed 1 bath is sometimes the same amount.
That's literally pocket change lol.
@@sneksteppy straight up
@A C If you don't own your property then you are at the mercy of the Free Market.
You sound like an Anarchist or a Socialist.
1675 for a 2 bdrm?? I'd KILL for that!
That is average rent here in Az.
I want to get out of here but have no money. It's the worst
payment plan after cancelling apartment lease. Make sure u find job and apartment before leaving and cancelling california lease. Leave things with family/friends.. sale other things. Become a minimalist until u build back up
The Inland Empire is a depressing sprawl, with crime, horrible traffic, drugs and homelessness just like LA.
Depends where in IE you are.
Not Temecula or murrieta
San Bernardino is the worst city in all of southern california.
i just sold a 2500 Sq ft , 3 bedroom, 2 bath house in San Berdu for $ 495 K. ( Feb 22nd COE )
I think the last 3 houses I sold were Hispanic families from the LA area.
1700 Sq ft 3 Br 2 Ba $ 450 K back in August.
1700 Sq Ft 4 Br 4 Ba $ 475 k back ib June.
2500 Sq Ft 3 Br 2 ba $ 510 k back in March.
Have 2 houses left and i'm outta there.
These were all former rentals i had up there.
Where u off to if I may ask? Thx
@@shoshi06 I live in San Diego.
I just had rental houses in SAan Berdu.
California used to be a golden state. Now she becomes a Welfare state. Her population is about 40 million but 15 million on Medical? Before I think there was a law that one would be on Welfare max 5 years on one’s life time (?). Now one were on Welfare as long as one wished.
Crime, Taxes, homeless, fires, traffic, no parking, smog....yup time to move.
yes sir im out in april
You forgot the cost of living like food and shelter.
Don’t stop at inland empire keep going until you see Arizona
I wonder why all those people who are moving to the IE now didn't do that from the start. It's *always* been cheaper to live there--could have been saving a lot of money all this time.
Because they think it’s a far drive. It’s literally 1 hr. LA people spend that much going 10 miles
I think it's the dream of owning a single family home. I live in the SF Bay Area and we're seeing a similar exodus of middle income families to the central valley where 500-600k still buys you the American drean. In the SF Bay Area, 500-600k only gets you into a 2 bedroom/1 ba condo. In SF or Oakland the American dream costs over a million dollars. There's a few deals in Oakland, but most middle income people wouldn't want to live in those areas.
No matter which American city or town you move out to and into there is too many homeless and crime all over America.
Shuuush... don't tell 'em... let them discover it for themselves...LOL!
it’s worse in democrat run cities
Being from Florida I kinda chuckle when people bring up politics. It's the cost of living that drives most. Like in my area 2 years ago you could make 65k a year and buy a home. Now you need to make 110k a year. But the average wage in Florida is still 65k a year. So when people start leaving Florida are they going to say it's because of the stupid things DeSantis is doing? No, it's because folks don't get paid enough and can't afford to stay there any longer.
I agree, housing as a market based commodity, acts independently of woke or neo-confederate politics. Where FL has the advantage is that right leaning polices favor deregulation which means more housing may get built to bring prices down. But is it really wise to keep building in a state that will be hit the hardest by rising seas?
@@bayoak lol too funny
@@bayoak Good point. FL will come crashing down when banks will no longer offer 30 year mortgages in the coastal areas of FL. We're already seeing home owners insurance taking some extreme steps upward too. That will be the other catalyst. No regulation against both institutions will lead to exorbitant pricing to the consumer, which will drive departures. Politics aside, people respond most when their wallet takes a hit.
As an IE native I have no idea why. It’s “cheaper” but not by much. And now these people have longer commutes, further clogging the freeways.
Also now if you're a person like me who is considering moving out of California. The question becomes where do you go , because now the type of WEATHER in that area, has become a very important part of your relocation decision.
I live in Santa Ana and i work in a cvs, while at work if someone goes in and walks out with a lot of stuff without paying we can't do anything cause if we do we're the one's being the villain and criminal is the victim
But who asked
This is why you'll always work retail, you're not even smart enough to understand the topic being discussed.
But anyways, I'll bite. Let's say you were able to do something about it. Would you really want to? Are you going to risk your life and limb to protect CVS from losing a Snicker's chocolate bar? Are you being paid to be a mindless cashier or a body guard?
^ facts
@snek yup. Sometimes it ain't worth it. That said though, pretty sure I could handle most tweakers. If I wanted to.
The best summary of why people are leaving California. The politicians have turned the criminal into the victim.
I'm leaving California as soon as the youngest kid finishes high school.
I live in the IE but relocating to our area makes our traffic much worse. The infrastructure is not in place to handle this influx and builders keep building!! Complete frustration because it seems that nobody is addressing those issues. Money talks unfortunately.
$6 for gas is crazy
My family bought a brand new home in temecula back in 2003 for $325k...... I just checked out of curiosity and the exact same home is now going for $696k
Home Depot stock was $26/share in 2003 and now it's $298/share. So, that seems like a deal.
I’m glad I left more then a year ago to Mexico and Colombia I am so happy
I've seen traffic I doubt anyone's moving in droves
My opinion as well... clogged frwy traffic is the best metric that folks aren't leaving California!
@@lol_05.76
You have to keep in mind there is neatly 4 million people living in Los Angeles. That's more than a lot of states have in theirs.
@@lol_05.76 Their just leaving to a different part of cali
The grass isn't any greener on the other side. It's sign of the time, expensive everywhere.
Tru-dat! There is no hiding place... NOWHERE!
For real I got a friend paying 1600 a month for a 2 bedroom apt in Houston and that just seems high to me. Houston?? Grew up there, place is a toilet. 2 beds should be under 1k there.
@@lol_05.76
This is self inflicted and can be avoided but the people are to comfortable with tyranny and distracted with false entertainment.
There are many people who sold homes in CA and moved TX, but found out that they can't stand TX and that property taxes are higher. They wish they could move back, but now they're priced out.
@Lil Queerdoe That would only be one of a plethora of different issues.
I'm from NC but I've notice the homeless population is getting bigger in Raleigh and I usually go every weekend
What’s sad is a lot of good, capable folks are leaving. I love California. It’s my home. I don’t want to see it degenerate into apathy and chaos.
Yes! Please keep moving out
The exodus from California is real. I live in Philadelphia and I got neighbors who moved from San Francisco to Philly in Nov 2022 . I have another friend who lives in San Diego thinking about buying a house. He said he even would move to Kensington area in Philly, because at least he has a chance to own a home. He said its almost impossible to buy a home in SD.
I made that same move from Los Angeles to Philadelphia in 2013. Best move of my life. I'm done with California I never miss it!
Phiadelphia😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@willliamjocz3606 i aint mad at ya, i couldnt believe it either
@@YoungDreezeePhilly over Houston Florida or NC is crazy 😆
@@rackss1661 I or anyone posted said that, but I would chose Philly over Houston or Florida. Florida got way too many sinkholes and Houston is gone if sea level goes up 6 more inches. NC nice i would move there.
The cost of living problem is going to require making remote work a more common thing
Great that work from home is an option, past generations never had that opportunity. Jump on it.
Go Back! I-5 is closed. Oregon is full. No vacancy. Stay in California and change it to be how you want it. Don’t move to someone else’s home and change their life to suit you.
I left California on 1/12/23 and went to Denver, Colorado and I left Monterey Bay. I’m even considering Santa Fe, New Mexico
Hey, quiet down about NM. We don't want it to catch on. 😉
All this is because of corporate greed!
No, it's because idiot liberals reward parasites and losers.
Just as many people are comming into California as out of. If cali was losing all this population cause everyone was moving their wouldn’t still be a housing shortage and their would be way more vacant places but there’s not.
Awful traffic everywhere too😡
Most people aren't leaving the state, those that are moving are primarily moving from one part of the state to another. Mostly, from inner city areas to suburban areas or from large coastal cities to medium sized cities an hour or two away but still commuting to coastal cities for work. E.g. Moving from Oakland to Sacramento, San Jose to Modesto or LA to San Bernardino and commuting.
California lost congressional seat couple years ago and will probably lose more. This can only happen with population decline relative to the other states so this guy’s an idiot…..
And now there going to make the IE expensive
IE is already expensive lol
@@seismic6435 It's cheap for Southern California standards.
@@user-oy2so4ru3p idk of you can say that considering the size of SB and Riverside counties. It's the converse. LA and OC are just expensive
@@seismic6435 Then they should build more houses.
@@seismic6435 also cus to many people live here.
Just moved to Los Angeles california! Perfect weather! Chill vibes and good company. It helps if you’re asian and work in STEM
You guys can move to Hereford, AZ. We have great weather; the summer is in the low 90s, and it even snows in the winter. You can buy a house with five beds for less than $3000; the food is cheap, great places to hike, Care Canyon, Ramsey Canyon, Huachuca mountains, San Pedro River, Coronado trail, and many more. Taxes are meager! Copper Queen Hospital is where we get medical care, which is excellent!
Im moving to vegas at least over there I can legally carry a gun. Someone tried a strong arm robbery on me here in long beach crime is getting bad here even by long beach standards lots of crazy homeless coming from L.A on the blue line
Twice there were propositions on the ballot here in California that were flawless. They were going to make it so local governments would enforce a cap on rent. But somehow millions of people fell for the anti-ads that pointed out something that technically isn't false, but in reality well, kind of is false. Like for example they would point out how it wouldn't improve things but used the fact that it got rid of the old system to say it when the new system that would have replaced it if the proposition had passed would have simply been considerably a lot better. Voters fell for that trick twice.
An organization tried to reduce the cost of living, but voters voted No each time. It is so frustrating!
The rich/OWNERS of these properties paid for those ads that may have tricked voters - they want to make as much $$$ as possible off renters until they're forced to do otherwise.
No one was tricked but you. Rent control doesn’t work, and never has. Read up on it. The only really solution is building if more housing, but homeowners vote building down. THATS the problem in CA. Rent control won’t lead to a mass supply of housing all of the sudden, sorry.
There are other counties in CA that aren’t crazy like LA, OC and SF.
People fail to comprehend that. L.a is only 40min from the I.E.
SF is only 40 mins away from Marin or Sonoma counties.
Im too considering moving out of San Diego. The cost of housing is now a deal breaker.
They also don't talk about the amount of people that move into California each year. There are lots.
I know many families are leaving because of the laws regarding childhood vaccine and covid vaccine
People want body autonomy for themselves and their children
THAT is an excellent reason to move!!!! Protect the children and do not let someone else poison your body.