@@CYellowan mango used to enter tournaments way back in the day as a Mario main under the alias ScorpionMaster, and he played ranked as scorpionmaster recently. Ringler beat him before the Leffen game.
no Leffens neutral game is shit the first stock leffen lost with a % lead because he refused to camp the top plat and make Ringlers character have to use both jumps to reach him And he never lasered people really do not play the character match ups correctly
i played ringler in the early days of slippi, no idea who he was, could not touch him at all. then saw him at the side-tourney for a smash summit he did very well and now here he is. second most jarring smash playing experience ive had behind playing s2j
most jarring smash experience i've had is playing eikelmann in pools and listening to him laugh as he 4 stocked me with game and watch, then trying to throw some trash away, missing, and just walking away.
@@DarkLeviathan8 its like riding a bull for the first time in ur life. someone just running around the stage at hyper speed and ur just standing there helplessly trying to time ur attacks against it. hands get super shaky and u just feel u have zero control over ur character.
In the second game, Ringler would've won if Leffen didn't go for easy fox shine cheese to take an early stock. They would be at 2 stocks a piece with Ringler at 9%.
i guess, but leffen did, because the ability to do this is part of what makes fox good. it's a bit of a weird counterfactual to pose given that, this is just a thing that fox ordinarily does; it's a bit like saying leffen wouldnt rack up so much damage without the laser. also weird given that, ringler just straight-up won the set; we dont need this sort of hypothetical to demonstrate how good he is, we have the much more compelling fact that, he won.
mind you, leffen is on a boxx, the very controller he complains about, and Ringler is over here happy dandy on a gcc handing him his ass... Just let that sink.... All shits aside though, DK isn't that bad. Great edgeguards, combo game for certain characters are absurd, good range, decent recovery tbh.. The biggest issue with DK is he's SO EASY TO REVENGE KILL.. His shield sucks, no reliable ledgestall, he's big, his waveland game is bad due to his ECB. This makes him such a dumby big target for being killed immediately after taking a stock and what's the biggest thing about winning in melee? That's right, keeping your stocks after taking from your opponent. This is DK's biggest problem in my experience playing as and watching DKs.
Leffen: "BOXX-style controllers should be banned" also Leffen: uses the unnerfed BOXX-style controllers also Leffen(???): can't even use the (allegedly) massive competitive advantage from his ban-worthy controller to beat DK
he hasnt played a BOXX-style controller in months before that, of course it takes practice to be good on it. thats why no top players has swapped for now. that should be obvious for anyone with a brain.
@@ElectricusTus I don’t hate low tiers :) I just mean most people don’t like playing them because the cost benefit in their mind is super low because they think they’re too good to lose to pichu and if they do lose they feel intense animosity
Amsa 1 might be the most insane take when Zain has much better losses and more major wins. His average placements are a lot better, too. Whack ass take
Am I the only one who gets hella annoyed by the notification sounds? I really dont need a Fox shouting at me every couple of seconds especially when it's as loud as Mango himself... turning it down around 7db should be fine and would make watching the clip much more desirable for me.
The scorp callout at the end just shattering mango's fourth wall
IM DYING AT THAT PART, HIS FACE CHANGED SO HARD
I don't get it 😅🤔
@@CYellowan mango used to enter tournaments way back in the day as a Mario main under the alias ScorpionMaster, and he played ranked as scorpionmaster recently. Ringler beat him before the Leffen game.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA that was so funny
9:54
Watching mango watch Ringler with Leffen adlibbing in the background is content I didn't know I needed
mango catching a stray right at the end is the icing on the cake
The scorp comment at end fucking killed me
ringler almost making the comeback on dreamland with the my hero academia music was one of the hypest things ive ever seen in my life
The funniest thing was that was LEFFS mha music, he needed the plus ultra power just to get one game
Ringler is actually so good
no Leffens neutral game is shit
the first stock leffen lost with a % lead because he refused to camp the top plat and make Ringlers character have to use both jumps to reach him
And he never lasered
people really do not play the character match ups correctly
@@AzumaRikimaru bro thinks hes better than leffen
@@slibbanib309 I mean, there's a reason why Ringler isn't even top 15 in SoCal lol
@Jacques L Maybe cuz they play him all the time and know what to do against DK?
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“Not Impossible” was the funniest thing I’ve ever heard Leffen say cracked me right up lmfao
Melee community has the best personalities bar none. The fact that these 3 gentleman are connected through shared interest alone is just beautiful
Who's the third? U mean the swedish incarnation of a salt shaker?
i played ringler in the early days of slippi, no idea who he was, could not touch him at all. then saw him at the side-tourney for a smash summit he did very well and now here he is. second most jarring smash playing experience ive had behind playing s2j
most jarring smash experience i've had is playing eikelmann in pools and listening to him laugh as he 4 stocked me with game and watch, then trying to throw some trash away, missing, and just walking away.
I mean now I need to hear your experience with s2j lmao
@@DarkLeviathan8 its like riding a bull for the first time in ur life. someone just running around the stage at hyper speed and ur just standing there helplessly trying to time ur attacks against it. hands get super shaky and u just feel u have zero control over ur character.
Quality clip. Many thanks.
Thank you too!
0:30 "Lemme hear it, lemme hear the Johns!" 😂😂
my favorite kind of content is fat mango talking through a mouthful of food while watching other people play video games
I love how Ringler is just going off here. Milk this rivalry forever because I will watch it.
Ringler is so good! the callout killed me😂 I’m gonna have to put in some monkey hours from now on!
20XX… when a blue DK becomes a kryptonite to one of the most potent foxes in melee. And a red yoshi winning majors. So much more melee to be played!
20DK
Now Amsa is top 3
no doubt
Did Scorp and Ringler boot up at the end?
Nah, haha. He just laughed about it later.
EDIT: But they did play sometime before Ringler ran into Leffen. Search the VOD and you'll see it.
Thanks, almost missed this lol
Any time!
thanks for uploading. the main channel probably wont get this
6:07 13% ---> 70% making DK look viable.
scorp caught one out of nowhere at the end HAHA
Wait how are they actually playing? Is ringler in EU right now? Pretty sure i was leffen on the eu leaderboards so he cant still be in NA right?
The real reason Lef hates puff is the games last longer than his power up anime songs
The last 15 seconds broke me
Leffen only knows three recovery angles and is still making it to the stage an unholy number of times. Whack edgeguarding.
No, those are just the three that work against Ringler/DK.
@@NA1c158 No, he is literally only doing Mx, My, and 45 degrees.
“whack edgeguarding”
-top 1,000,000 player
Isn't it crazy how the person that tried to get hax canceled for no reason ended up using a controller made by hax?
9:52 scorp catching the strayest of strays
Had to skip ahead and see if Leffen switched off Fox again
What the... What's that controller Leffen is using?
Ringler is simply different.
The fact that leffen isn't expecting to win is absolutely unreal to me. I think that is revealing some crazy issue with his mentality.
Leffen was playing on a f1, a box like controller which he hasnt used for months. Thats why he expected to loose
Now i wanna see mango play dk
Why does he have minionglasses? Poor eyesight?
Might be a dumb question
the mang, also ringler cookin on the DK
Gassing up Cody when he was gonna quit this year
We all KNEW IT 😂😂👍👍
Was this for SWT? What’s the occasion here?
It was just Ranked games.
Who's gonna tell him 😔
In the second game, Ringler would've won if Leffen didn't go for easy fox shine cheese to take an early stock. They would be at 2 stocks a piece with Ringler at 9%.
i guess, but leffen did, because the ability to do this is part of what makes fox good. it's a bit of a weird counterfactual to pose given that, this is just a thing that fox ordinarily does; it's a bit like saying leffen wouldnt rack up so much damage without the laser. also weird given that, ringler just straight-up won the set; we dont need this sort of hypothetical to demonstrate how good he is, we have the much more compelling fact that, he won.
the leffen slayer
lool not even the box can save this nerd
How is Leffena real guy? Seriously
First Samus then DK, next we'll see Young Link 🤣
Ringler is legit just the Leffen slayer
Dk beats fox confirmed
mind you, leffen is on a boxx, the very controller he complains about, and Ringler is over here happy dandy on a gcc handing him his ass...
Just let that sink....
All shits aside though, DK isn't that bad. Great edgeguards, combo game for certain characters are absurd, good range, decent recovery tbh.. The biggest issue with DK is he's SO EASY TO REVENGE KILL.. His shield sucks, no reliable ledgestall, he's big, his waveland game is bad due to his ECB. This makes him such a dumby big target for being killed immediately after taking a stock and what's the biggest thing about winning in melee? That's right, keeping your stocks after taking from your opponent. This is DK's biggest problem in my experience playing as and watching DKs.
ringlers gonna get banned having donos for drinks
He mains the highest tiered character and still gets spanked
Leffen: "BOXX-style controllers should be banned"
also Leffen: uses the unnerfed BOXX-style controllers
also Leffen(???): can't even use the (allegedly) massive competitive advantage from his ban-worthy controller to beat DK
he hasnt played a BOXX-style controller in months before that, of course it takes practice to be good on it. thats why no top players has swapped for now. that should be obvious for anyone with a brain.
eh amsa might be 3 now
Mango isn't #2 anymore 😈
leffen needs a power up puts on the softest song ive ever heard
1:45 not even remotely true lmao.
LOL the community hates low tiers unless they're top 100. If they aren't, nobody wants to play them, and everybody will drop subtly snide remarks.
Low tiers are fun to watch but lame to play against and this is usually because low level melee players have an unjustified ego
@@razevadestaxes Thank you for proving my point with the snide comment.
@@ElectricusTus I don’t hate low tiers :) I just mean most people don’t like playing them because the cost benefit in their mind is super low because they think they’re too good to lose to pichu and if they do lose they feel intense animosity
I think you misinterpreted what I meant
@@razevadestaxes "low level melee players have an unjustified ego" hard to misinterpret that lol
never seen anyone make this game look more boring than leffen, actually has never done anything cool in his life
Amsa is #1 this season and it’s really dumb people are arguing his spot as 3rd or 4th
Amsa 1 might be the most insane take when Zain has much better losses and more major wins. His average placements are a lot better, too. Whack ass take
in what universe is Amsa #1 I'd say he's 3rd though
Who's your crack dealer?
i agree, dont just listen to mangos filterd infirmation and look at all the results
Amsa is #3 this season and it's really dumb people are arguing his spot as 1st or 2nd.
No but for real he's 2nd or 3rd, Zain is 1st for sure.
Am I the only one who gets hella annoyed by the notification sounds? I really dont need a Fox shouting at me every couple of seconds especially when it's as loud as Mango himself... turning it down around 7db should be fine and would make watching the clip much more desirable for me.
Ringler is actually so good