Great video Keith. I have a little Mammod Steam engine plant and used to go to the Bradford Industraial Meuseum often with my dad. I'm just looking Into purchasing and building my first Stuart Model. I'm going for a Machined Kit first though ;-) Loving your videos. I'm sure they'll be lots of help.
I have always believed that the demonstration of a nicely built engine lies not in its ability to run fast,but how slowly it is capable of running consistently, for that is certain to show up any bad workmanship.
Thanks Keith. I have Rapeseed ordered and on it's way. But in the short term could I use "3 in 1" oil to run in my Stuart S50 on compressed air? Thanks again, Dave
Thank you for all the information you provided us with, is it maybe possible to do an steam oil video? When i google it over here in the Netherlands it gives me Expensively oils from kroon oil like abacot mep 460 This will cost 30 euro for 5 liters i seen cheaper oils but i never know can it be used for the cylinders at my regner frieda, or in the cylinders from wilesco d18 i got or do i need 2 differently kinds of oil because the wilesco is smaller Would be very helpful to have some brands and oil types I now used machinery oil but it looked like water and the wilesco oil was more thick, for one time i hope it doesn't hurt the wilesco but for my train i want to be sure i don't destroy it. For the wilesco i can say i had it upside down to drain all the oil when the older brown oil came back I've put it back on display
Hi Keith. Would your Rapeseed oil "mix" also be used as cylinder oil? By the way..I've never commented before but I deeply and truly appreciate your steam engine videos.Here in the USA it seems our hobby is dying..mostly gray haired old men play with steam nowadays.I believe your practical "hands on" approach and simplification of working on small steam engines will help spark interest in our younger generation. Thank you for this. Also I appreciate your sympathetic restorations and rebuilds. There is no reason to hide good work done by another hand from this world.You fix the bad and leave the good..leaving the story of craftsmanship and legacy in your work. I think you see beyond the engine itself seeing the story of its construction in file marks, nice fits and beauty in form. All these things I see in your videos..besides the fact you are a wonderful craftsman and natural engineer. Best regards, Lester Bowman..California.
hey there, I'm trying to run in a PM research #3 engine, but I don't have access to a lathe or any type of machine that could do the job except for Lego motors. do you have any suggestions on how I could run it in? my wood shop teacher at my school has a lathe, but I doubt he'll let me use it on his spare time :p
Hi Keith, thanks for the reply, I did not realise the small mamod engines were classed as toys? Surely whether it be the smaller mamod engines I am starting with or the larger more complex engines you run they are all still classed as grown up toys.
They are a good starting place - but I had them as toys when I was a child, the type that I play with now are not really classed as toys, more like models or miniatures - but I still play with them anyway so maybe they are {:-)))))
Hi Keith. I'm a total beginner and have watched many of your videos, which I find very helpful. many thanks. I have bought myself a Chiltern Steam models beam engine, and I am currently putting it together. I have rushed out buying this and that for it, in readiness for steaming, and one of my noob purchases, was some steam cylinder oil (460T). Can I use this? or have I purchased in error? My plan is to fit a small displacement lubricator, but I'd like an all round oil for the bearings and other moving parts.
for a small model steam engine the steam cylinder oil should be OK, I prefer the thicker stuff. Best to ask the manufacturer though to be on the safe side.
The Displacement lubricator lubricates the cylinder when the engine is in steam. The oil lasts for around 1 hour before needing a refill. Any oil fed into the steam or air (if you are running on compressed air) inlet will find its way to the cylinders.
Keith Appleton I am building a small single piston steam engine and it does not have a displacement lubricator so I have to get the oil in there myself somehow. Could I put a few drops down the steam inlet ?
I don't personally have a problem with motor oil at all, I just use a normal deodorant . . . . . but the additives in Motor Oil can damage seals in steam engines and Motor Oil is designed to run at a much higher working temperature than steam engine bearing lubricants. Just trying to give viewers advice based on my personal experiences with it in the past. (over 54 years). It can be nasty stuff to handle too.
@@keithappleton I finally found the information that small steam engines can reach rpm as high as 20.000. Quite impressive. BTW,, I also have in my tiny workshop beside the mirror a bottle of tear drops, in case some dust got attached to my eyes. Thanks!!
Not only did I find this to be usefull info, i could listen to you speak all day.
You have a very calming voice. Excellent videos.
I so wish I had one of these more advanced Stuart engines. Always a joy to watch when running.
Great video Keith. I have a little Mammod Steam engine plant and used to go to the Bradford Industraial Meuseum often with my dad. I'm just looking Into purchasing and building my first Stuart Model. I'm going for a Machined Kit first though ;-)
Loving your videos. I'm sure they'll be lots of help.
If you mean the Stuart Beam engine castings via Ebay recently - yes, they are very good - just what I needed :-)
In the US we use the term Canola Oil for the stuff you eat. Rapeseed Oil sounds a bit too rapey.
Always find it useful. Thanks, Keith!
I have always believed that the demonstration of a nicely built engine lies not in its ability to run fast,but how slowly it is capable of running consistently, for that is certain to show up any bad workmanship.
That just about sums it up I think ..... it is often quite difficult to make it happen ........
@@keithappleton - Weight helps ?
Was reading that steam oil...used for live steam....has tallow in it. Steam oil is no joke. It's designed for the job.
I am going to use some of them as main bearings for crankshaft driven boiler feed pumps for a couple of Double 10v's I have :-)
It's a pleasure to watch.
Thanks Keith. I have Rapeseed ordered and on it's way. But in the short term could I use "3 in 1" oil to run in my Stuart S50 on compressed air? Thanks again, Dave
only in the short term ..... 3 in 1 is very thin oil and the lubricating properties are only ok for a short while.
Very nice tip on the rapeseed oil!
Thank you for all the information you provided us with, is it maybe possible to do an steam oil video? When i google it over here in the Netherlands it gives me
Expensively oils from kroon oil like abacot mep 460
This will cost 30 euro for 5 liters i seen cheaper oils but i never know can it be used for the cylinders at my regner frieda, or in the cylinders from wilesco d18 i got or do i need 2 differently kinds of oil because the wilesco is smaller
Would be very helpful to have some brands and oil types
I now used machinery oil but it looked like water and the wilesco oil was more thick, for one time i hope it doesn't hurt the wilesco but for my train i want to be sure i don't destroy it.
For the wilesco i can say i had it upside down to drain all the oil when the older brown oil came back I've put it back on display
I use www.hallettoil.co.uk for all my Steam Oil needs.
That is the most gorgeous steam engine i have ever seen,im bying one,
What is the make and model ?
It is a Stuart Models "James Coombes" steam engine.
Hi Keith.
Would your Rapeseed oil "mix" also be used as cylinder oil?
By the way..I've never commented before but I deeply and truly appreciate your steam engine videos.Here in the USA it seems our hobby is dying..mostly gray haired old men play with steam nowadays.I believe your practical "hands on" approach and simplification of working on small steam engines will help spark interest in our younger generation. Thank you for this.
Also I appreciate your sympathetic restorations and rebuilds. There is no reason to hide good work done by another hand from this world.You fix the bad and leave the good..leaving the story of craftsmanship and legacy in your work. I think you see beyond the engine itself seeing the story of its construction in file marks, nice fits and beauty in form.
All these things I see in your videos..besides the fact you are a wonderful craftsman and natural engineer. Best regards, Lester Bowman..California.
Thank you Lester, I appreciate your kind comments.
hey there, I'm trying to run in a PM research #3 engine, but I don't have access to a lathe or any type of machine that could do the job except for Lego motors. do you have any suggestions on how I could run it in? my wood shop teacher at my school has a lathe, but I doubt he'll let me use it on his spare time :p
+Demonic Darkness Why not use a variable speed battery powered electric dill ????
Great video, I am quite new to steam engines, could you tell me do the same principles apply to smaller Mamod model engines???? Thanks
Only up to a point. The small steam toys are quite different to these type of engine, but they do need oiling frequently or they wear out fast.
Hi Keith, thanks for the reply, I did not realise the small mamod engines were classed as toys? Surely whether it be the smaller mamod engines I am starting with or the larger more complex engines you run they are all still classed as grown up toys.
They are a good starting place - but I had them as toys when I was a child, the type that I play with now are not really classed as toys, more like models or miniatures - but I still play with them anyway so maybe they are {:-)))))
"Rapeseed oil or extra virgin olive oil"? How interesting. I keep between 5 an 10 litres of those combined 50:50 in my kitchen cupboard. lol
Hi Keith. I'm a total beginner and have watched many of your videos, which I find very helpful. many thanks. I have bought myself a Chiltern Steam models beam engine, and I am currently putting it together. I have rushed out buying this and that for it, in readiness for steaming, and one of my noob purchases, was some steam cylinder oil (460T). Can I use this? or have I purchased in error? My plan is to fit a small displacement lubricator, but I'd like an all round oil for the bearings and other moving parts.
for a small model steam engine the steam cylinder oil should be OK, I prefer the thicker stuff. Best to ask the manufacturer though to be on the safe side.
@@keithappleton Many thanks Keith. Will do
How often do you have to put steam oil into the cylinder ? And how do you get it in there other than taking off the cylinder head ?
The Displacement lubricator lubricates the cylinder when the engine is in steam. The oil lasts for around 1 hour before needing a refill. Any oil fed into the steam or air (if you are running on compressed air) inlet will find its way to the cylinders.
Keith Appleton I am building a small single piston steam engine and it does not have a displacement lubricator so I have to get the oil in there myself somehow. Could I put a few drops down the steam inlet ?
Yes, but it won't last long doing it that way - best to get a lubricator . . .
What is your problem with motor oil
I don't personally have a problem with motor oil at all, I just use a normal deodorant . . . . . but the additives in Motor Oil can damage seals in steam engines and Motor Oil is designed to run at a much higher working temperature than steam engine bearing lubricants. Just trying to give viewers advice based on my personal experiences with it in the past. (over 54 years). It can be nasty stuff to handle too.
I have a question. I've seen that most steam engines are slow. Is it possible to build a fast one for model boats?. Thanks!
Steam engines are not slow at all, they just look good when running at low speed so that you can see the motion of the parts . . . .
@@keithappleton I finally found the information that small steam engines can reach rpm as high as 20.000. Quite impressive. BTW,, I also have in my tiny workshop beside the mirror a bottle of tear drops, in case some dust got attached to my eyes. Thanks!!
rapeseed! Very interesting Keith,will try that thanks mate.Keep your stuff coming really enjoy them.Hope you liked the stuart castings by the way.
Do I infer from this video that your 1000 grade, 3 n 1 & rapeseed blend should not be used when breaking in a new engine?
I would advise against it - use normal lubricating oil for breaking in a new engine.
lovely engine
nice video very intresting
What about WD40?
good. Dont forget to send me a download of what you made from them.Would be interesting to see what you made.Take care ANDY
I am looking for information about steam and steam engines.
You have come to the right place }:-)))
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Lol!! warp speed!!! :D