Model Steam Engine Valve Timing

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  • Опубліковано 23 лис 2024

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  • @keithappleton
    @keithappleton 3 роки тому +40

    Thanks for the shout Quinn, I enjoy watching your channel. High Quality video, high quality engineering and clearly explained }:-)))

    • @rhavrane
      @rhavrane 3 роки тому

      Bonjour Keith, happy to see you there, Quinn and you are great steam people,
      Amicalement Raphaël

  • @BeeGeeTheImp
    @BeeGeeTheImp 3 роки тому +11

    I look forward to seeing your steam engine governor design and build. Cheers!

  • @kyfho47
    @kyfho47 3 роки тому +22

    Thank you for my Blondihacks "fix" for the day.
    Would love to see you make a steam chest cover and cylinder head out of plexy or lexan. Nice to watch the dance of the valve and piston together.

  • @VoidedWarranty
    @VoidedWarranty 3 роки тому +34

    Another method is using audio recordings and something like audacity, you can use the wave form and make quite accurate measurements of the evenness of the beat. I've done it for a watch

    • @oldfarthacks
      @oldfarthacks Рік тому

      Quinn has a very good multi channel O-scope. Put a mike on the engine. Run the engine while watching that. You can even mount up switches on key components ( I myself would use prox ones) and for real fun you could mount an encoder to the crank. Then just tune by the numbers.
      I am contemplating building a dual overhead valve digitally controlled steam engine, something along the likes of what would exist if the world had not gone to an ICE design.

  • @tnekkc
    @tnekkc 3 роки тому +4

    My 6 year old granddaughter loved this video, and told me not to talk when Blondihacks is talking.

  • @jimsvideos7201
    @jimsvideos7201 3 роки тому +7

    Oh boy! I don't watch Saturday morning cartoons anymore, but your videos on a Saturday afternoon are a similar treat!

  • @ewjorgy
    @ewjorgy 3 роки тому +3

    Hi Quinn,
    I learned a neat gasket making trick while stranded in the middle of nowhere on my sailboat that had a leaking thermostat housing. Take said housing cover and fix it gasket side up. Take gasket material (paper) lay it on top. With a small ball peen hammer peen along all edges gently. The housing edges will cut out a perfect gasket. Quick, easy, accurate and oddly satisfying! :)
    Stay safe, be well and all the best from California 💛
    P.S. Fuzzy and Coco send heartfelt meows to sprocket!

  • @rpavlik1
    @rpavlik1 3 роки тому +6

    Amazing, I learned that they make tire pressure gauges specifically for lawn tractors! Will have to get one...
    Oh yeah, I also learned more than I'll ever need, probably, about steam engines. Wonderful as always!

  • @OnlyTheEd
    @OnlyTheEd 3 роки тому

    I love watching Keith Appelton's videos......I do not add comments on his channel.....I don't wish to feel like an armchair machinist.....so I just sit back and watch.........and listen to him commenting on some of the replies.... :-/

  • @leerogers6423
    @leerogers6423 3 роки тому

    Why is it that the different sounds that different engines make provoke different emotions? Definitely got a smile on my face right now.

  • @poppafiveone
    @poppafiveone 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you for the lesson. Of all the videos on building these engines, you are the only one who explained the tuning operation. Thanks again.

  • @ricksorensen9480
    @ricksorensen9480 11 місяців тому

    Love your work, I've been learning about steam power for many years now and I have built a few engines,,from a tiny model stationary power plant for my Boss in 2000,, I learned a lot from from that experience & I promised myself to never again attempt to make another one that small,,1/2 inch bore & 3/4 stroke,,steam whistle had a 1/8 inch ,ball end valve seat,,very hard to make...at present I am building a 20 + HP engine for a 20 ft. Catamaran boat I have,,I mostly love my sailboats as I am a sailing NUT. / I LOVE your UA-cam videos & you have my respect for you are doing ❤️,,/ Keep up the good work.

  • @Breadmason
    @Breadmason 3 роки тому +1

    Dear Quinn,
    Love your channel..i’m not a machinist, just an old printer, but have always admired people who have made machines to such fine tolerances.
    Hope your safe and well. ❤️ from Melbourne, Australia

  • @sd4594
    @sd4594 3 роки тому +1

    Nice job of explaining how to set up an engine to run properly. Traction engines need to properly in both directions. The original owners of my Keck had it adjusted to provide a little more power in the "belt" motion for threshing. I have it adjusted more equally since I use it to thresh & sawmill.

  • @DialMforDavid
    @DialMforDavid 3 роки тому +2

    Watched a This Old Tony video I had been saving and the new Blondihacks steam engine video back to back......good day.

  • @WyrGuy2
    @WyrGuy2 3 роки тому +6

    Started watching for the machining info... mesmerized by your instruction and information about the hows & whys of steam engine timing and operation! Keep going!

  • @prsearls
    @prsearls Рік тому

    Excellent explanation of a rather complex subject (at least on large engines). I love watching your channel and projects. I'm not a machinist but appreciate your precision and problem-solving abilities. Your humor is wonderful, too. Your videos are very educational and entertaining, a good combination!

  • @orcasea59
    @orcasea59 3 роки тому

    Love that you chose to do a tune-up follow up on this project. Been watching Keith Appleton for years - he's awesome! He's a musician, so the timing by ear is his jam, for sure.

  • @richardgregory6653
    @richardgregory6653 3 роки тому +3

    Good "timing" video Quinn. A small tip on that packing install is to slightly flatten the packing with your tappy tap tool(aka hammer) so you can get it in the stuffing box. The gland will swage it to the shaft and stuffing box.

  • @ricksorensen9480
    @ricksorensen9480 11 місяців тому

    Your presentation is great,,you are a very good teacher in my humble opinion,,Alabama loves you.

  • @natesteiner5460
    @natesteiner5460 3 роки тому +2

    An ink pad, like those used for rubber stamps is great for making gaskets. Ink up the metal surface and press onto the gasket paper. Uncle Bob.

  • @danbreyfogle8486
    @danbreyfogle8486 3 роки тому +3

    Another very interesting video. Can't wait for the governor project for this.

  • @warrenwise8127
    @warrenwise8127 3 роки тому +2

    I love that flywheel, watched the video on that, see so many flywheels that look like they do not run true, nice engine!

  • @anthonyhasler5397
    @anthonyhasler5397 2 роки тому +1

    Mind blown.. What a brilliant video, super informative, great camera footage and audio, makes me wish all UA-camurs videos were of this quality 👌

  • @SethKotta
    @SethKotta 3 роки тому +28

    It makes the chugga-chugga sound, so my simple brain is satisfied.

  • @vinicius9670
    @vinicius9670 3 роки тому

    Very nice playlist! Watched it all at once until now.

  • @AndersonPrototypes
    @AndersonPrototypes 2 роки тому

    WOW--that was super helpful. Wish you were closer, would love to have a coffee and talk about steam engines and machining.

  • @TheKnacklersWorkshop
    @TheKnacklersWorkshop 3 роки тому +1

    The engine runs very well Quinn, you must be very proud of what you've made...

  • @divingeveryday
    @divingeveryday 3 роки тому +1

    I love this project so much! And we're getting a governor too!

  • @LCOOTS
    @LCOOTS 3 роки тому +2

    what a wonderful explanation, i'm still trying to figure 2 stroke engines. thanks Quin!!!!

  • @raymitchell9736
    @raymitchell9736 3 роки тому

    You got that engine purring like a kitten! Now I may never have a need to work with a steam engine in my life, but I can appreciate your technical enthusiasm in your hobby and enjoyed nerding out with you... it shows me a whole world of knowledge I never knew existed!

  • @keepsteamalivecom
    @keepsteamalivecom Рік тому

    Thank you for being so thorough in your details. I learned a lot from you, more than I have watching experienced Live Steamer's.

  • @marcmckenzie5110
    @marcmckenzie5110 3 роки тому

    So satisfying to see your engine get to this point. The biggest thing I’ve learned from the series is that building a steam engine is much more time consuming and challenging than I imagined. I can’t wait to see the governor project; I’ve always thought they were the coolest part! 👍🏼

  • @mikebaldwin9972
    @mikebaldwin9972 3 роки тому +4

    Mr.Appleton would be PROUD of YOU ❤️!!!!

  • @mariellecb1
    @mariellecb1 3 роки тому

    The sound of the tuned engine is so calming! Thanks for a great tutorial.

  • @notabagel
    @notabagel 3 роки тому +11

    Wow, was really looking forward to this one, so I'm thrilled I saw it so quickly!

  • @Jeroendorrestein
    @Jeroendorrestein 3 роки тому +1

    Once more, an excellent tutorial. Looking forward to see that governor!

  • @ch34pskate16
    @ch34pskate16 3 роки тому +2

    Great stuff. Really liked this series. It would be great if you built a boiler and got this engine rolling old school

    • @mattmanyam
      @mattmanyam 3 роки тому

      Pretty sure she already has a boiler.

  • @spock59
    @spock59 3 роки тому

    Quinn, you are now a steam engine professor! Thank you for the in-depth explanation.

  • @artnickel7624
    @artnickel7624 3 роки тому +1

    Keith would love this instruction. Great job!

  • @jeffreylehn8803
    @jeffreylehn8803 3 роки тому +1

    great job , can't wait for the governor project.

  • @noisyboi87
    @noisyboi87 3 роки тому +1

    A good trick for gland packing is to roll or tap it flatter to fit then let the follower reform it when you install

  • @davidstreeter9426
    @davidstreeter9426 3 роки тому

    Quinn, I have a couple of 100 y.o. books that describe the timing of steam engines which are functionally identical to your model. It is interesting that a mechanical device which has been around for a couple hundred years is still structurally identical and functional. Yes, I am aware of the reasons why steam has been replaced by much newer energy sources but it still has its uses and place and it is very interesting technology.

  • @HistoricSteamTV
    @HistoricSteamTV 2 роки тому

    For glands I use small strips of Nomex fabric soaked in steam oil or high heat grease.

  • @justinstrik7125
    @justinstrik7125 3 роки тому +2

    I’m currently reading “the perfectionists” by simon winchester which is very interesting as it talks about how precision engineering basically made the steam engine more and more powerful to the point it became the engine that powered the industrial revolution. Very interesting read, especially for a woodworker who normally measures things in 1/10000 of a soccer field.

    • @sciangear4782
      @sciangear4782 3 роки тому

      Given that an Association Football pitch does not have a standard length, that's quite... um... yeah...

  • @user-pk2fg8im4u
    @user-pk2fg8im4u Рік тому

    I have been watching your build and really am enjoying the process. You are very gifted with machining talent and entertaining commentary! I do have one suggestion/question. I may have missed it, but have you checked the balance of the flywheel! It may be that with a small engine like you have built, that it isn't too critical, but every flywheel I have ever seen on different types of machines will show evidence of balancing. Putting the wheel on a straight axle between two level parallels, the heavy side will balance to the bottom, and small holes drilled along the outer rim will remove weight until the wheel will stop and stay at any position. If I missed you doing something like that, forgive me, but it might just make the tuning even better.

  • @paulp96275
    @paulp96275 3 роки тому +3

    I wish I had a teacher like you at school, I would have listened more ,you are far more interesting and the way you tell the facts is great
    Thanks for great viewing stay safe 👍👨🏻‍🏭🇬🇧

  • @robertpartsmade5832
    @robertpartsmade5832 3 роки тому

    Full blown steam engine engineer now 😎👍
    Regards
    Partsmade
    🇬🇧

  • @b.w5566
    @b.w5566 3 роки тому

    THANK YOU!! Awesome video and very very informative. Just the right information and amount of it it. I have been looking for how to do the timing on a twin cylinder horizontal mill engine and the only one I found was mr Appleton’s . I love his videos but it was not the help I needed. I almost gave up due to watching numerous Videos made by Wingnuts where I actually felt dumber After watching. I thought I would never get my engine running. So it was refreshing to come across yours. It was exactly what I was looking for. THANK YOU!

  • @mkegadgets4380
    @mkegadgets4380 3 роки тому +2

    Beautiful project it really turned out nice. Someday I’ll have to make one. And I use your videos as a reference.

  • @RichieCat4223
    @RichieCat4223 3 роки тому

    07:32 This reminds me of port timed 2 cycle engines.
    With them you could cut down intake or exhaust piston skirts and/or modify the cylinder ports.
    13;45 That sound reminds me of an early pressure cooker where you had to have the correct tempo of the pressure regulator valve that would rock back and forth.

  • @toolbox-gua
    @toolbox-gua 3 роки тому

    I’m catching up on my class and this is indeed perfect and on time! Great.

  • @ke9tv
    @ke9tv 3 роки тому +1

    Cheers for the governor project! I wanna see that engine running balls-out!

  • @jasonhanson6563
    @jasonhanson6563 3 роки тому +1

    Have you considered making one of those mini V-8s? I ask this question, knowing nothing about them, or how hard they are to make.

  • @alanmuddypaws3865
    @alanmuddypaws3865 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent! I was really looking forward to the valve timing video, very informative! Thanks.

  • @AmateurRedneckWorkshop
    @AmateurRedneckWorkshop 3 роки тому +2

    Great tips, a very timely video.

  • @gregsmachineshop
    @gregsmachineshop 3 роки тому

    Thanks Quinn, great detail, I just set mine on 90 degree timing not knowing any better--I still have a little work to do. I liked the advice on the low pressure gauge as well. I am looking forward to the governor project, hopefuly you give enough info that I can build one too. :-)

  • @elsdp-4560
    @elsdp-4560 3 роки тому

    THANK YOU...for sharing. The steam engine sounds really good.

  • @tonywilson4713
    @tonywilson4713 3 роки тому

    Nicely done and its great to see the engine working so well.
    This is actually a deceptively tough little project with some serious challenges in it and to see it run so smooth is _"ab fab"_
    It probably hasn't hurt PM's sales in the least, I know I am looking at several of their projects but I'm planning to start with the #2 wobler then the #3, before I try this one. Maybe a #5 or Stuart in the middle.

  • @chevyfahrer
    @chevyfahrer 3 роки тому

    nice tutorial,waiting for the governor project to build one for my own steam engine

  • @randywl8925
    @randywl8925 3 роки тому +11

    Now I'm wondering if you're going to build something so the engine has something to do. Being mechanical, I'm thinking along the lines of an IBM punch card to turn this into CNC milling machine.
    "Welcome to episode 12,823" 😁
    It's got to be quite satisfying getting to this point.

    • @dbldblu
      @dbldblu 3 роки тому +2

      How about a steam powered sewing machine? Has that ever been done?

    • @robmacdonald7004
      @robmacdonald7004 3 роки тому

      @@dbldblu Probably was, back in the heyday of steam, except the sewing machines would have been driven off a line shaft from a monster steam engine that was driving hundreds of them.

  • @marknerren402
    @marknerren402 3 роки тому

    I look forward to the governor and also I will love to see how you make the base. Mine sits on a wooden base (that woodworking stuff again) but it would look more appropriate on a brick or concrete base. I might try my hand at casting something in aluminum in the future. An engine similar to this is seen in "There Will Be Blood" when the drilling is begun. I like this series. Thanks!

  • @richardphillips8652
    @richardphillips8652 Рік тому

    Great, very well explained.
    Thank you.

  • @haramanggapuja
    @haramanggapuja 3 роки тому

    This is so cool. Got me thinking of all the old print shops that ran multiple presses off overhead belt drive systems. Which got me thinking about the 1874 treadle jobber I have. I know that, at age 75, I can run that press for quite some time, five pumps of the treadle for each impression (print) without getting the least bit winded. (Yeah, I feel good about that.) And that got me thinking of how much energy it takes to run the press that way versus how much steam engine energy it takes or would have taken "back in the day" when my father was doing this stuff. I guess that's the fun part of all this: aside from the artsy part of building the engine or setting the type & inking up the press (and picking out the paper & other graphic design considerations), both of 'em require a sensitivity to the machine itself (or the type). Which may be why I find your videos on this so fascinating.
    . . . Another informative, science-ish video for the other tool use to enjoy. Thanks!
    Stay safe & stay healthy!

    • @haramanggapuja
      @haramanggapuja 3 роки тому

      "the other tool user" ;-)

    • @nerd1000ify
      @nerd1000ify 3 роки тому +1

      For reference, human muscle is about 25% efficient at turning chemical energy into mechanical work. A steam locomotive is at best 10% efficient, so assuming the performance of the old stationary engine was similar the amount of energy per print would have been quite a bit higher in the old days of steam. Of course from this we can also infer that running your press on power generated by a modern electric plant (e.g. supercritical steam or gas turbine, ~40% thermal efficiency) may actually emit less CO2 per print than pedaling it with your legs, depending on the efficiency of the local power grid!

    • @haramanggapuja
      @haramanggapuja 3 роки тому

      @@nerd1000ify Or, as my father used to bark when the car windows steamed up "Goddammit! Stop breathing so much!"
      At my age, by the way, an hour or so of pumping the treadle gives me a certain satisfaction. I'm 75 and I can do this and not get winded. And the end result is usually something that I can appreciate from a graphic arts point of view.
      . . . So I consider it a win.

    • @nerd1000ify
      @nerd1000ify 3 роки тому +1

      @@haramanggapuja there's a lot to be said for that satisfaction of doing it yourself.

  • @candyop391
    @candyop391 3 роки тому

    When metric threading to set compound slide in 30° is important

  • @tom_tom_go
    @tom_tom_go 3 роки тому

    Nice to see this running as steam engines are one of my interests, great job. When you get fed up with the packing switch to o-rings (I use them on my 5" gauge engine, videos on my channel if interested) and well done for mentioning steam engines run differently on air compared to steam!

    • @diamondcar2842
      @diamondcar2842 2 роки тому

      T bag string soaked in oil and graphite powder lubricates and very little friction

  • @earlledoux9824
    @earlledoux9824 3 роки тому +1

    That engine sounds great.
    Happy Valentines Day ❤ !

  • @phildcrow
    @phildcrow 3 роки тому

    Blondie! I've missed you! I spent a good hour yesterday catching up on the VJOs I missed. Good to see you again.

  • @henrysohbatian6405
    @henrysohbatian6405 3 роки тому +4

    since these engines run on such low pressure, could you try running it from a balloon or two?

  • @hefy2jefy
    @hefy2jefy 3 роки тому +5

    Love this, a great job! The inboard volume of the cylinder is always going to be less than outboard volume due to the connecting rod, should this be allowed for?

    • @davidtaylor6124
      @davidtaylor6124 3 роки тому

      For our toy engines we're more interested in having the distance from the cylinder end cap to that face of the piston be about the same at both ends. Worrying about the volume is a bit beyond our needs.

  • @stephenrowley4171
    @stephenrowley4171 3 роки тому

    Loving the video, I've seen Keith Appleton videos but this at bit more scientific than his more artistic approach(both are valid)
    On a side note those screws really want replacing with a studs and nuts it would look so much better

    • @Blondihacks
      @Blondihacks  3 роки тому +1

      Yah, that’s on the list. I don’t like those screws

  • @henrikjorgensen1614
    @henrikjorgensen1614 3 роки тому

    A little tips. Take a hammer and make the seal material flat so it better fits in or taake a smaller seal material

  • @JustFun-iz9rf
    @JustFun-iz9rf 2 роки тому

    thank you for this I needed to to know. Very well explained.

  • @robmacdonald7004
    @robmacdonald7004 3 роки тому +1

    When do you drill the holes for the mounting bolts? There are bosses for them cast into the base.

  • @toolzshed
    @toolzshed 3 роки тому

    Steam Engines are so cool

  • @aaronale5
    @aaronale5 3 роки тому

    Your videos are so zen.... Love it.. Cant wait for steam and the Guvna' (cockney accent implied)

  • @TJ-jx6dx
    @TJ-jx6dx 3 роки тому

    Wow, your helpimg inspire me to become a Millwrite.

  • @3rdaxis649
    @3rdaxis649 3 роки тому

    Great series love your work here. Keith is great too.

  • @billy19461
    @billy19461 3 роки тому

    I am really enjoying this series!

  • @epilotdk
    @epilotdk 3 роки тому

    Instead of cord I recommend using PTFE plumbing tape. Twisting it produces a thinner cord that you can then wrap around the spindle.

  • @LelandRJohnson
    @LelandRJohnson 3 роки тому

    I was just watching the Machinist Relay playlist and was wondering what happened to the thingamajigger?

  • @danjan5721
    @danjan5721 Рік тому

    Hi Quinn, very nice video. I am having problems to seal my marine steam engine with a graphite cord especially the valve rods. What kind of teflon string are you using?

  • @kurthanson4106
    @kurthanson4106 3 роки тому

    Nicely done, I was looking forward to this part.

  • @EmmaRitson
    @EmmaRitson 3 роки тому +1

    thats excelent! great video Quinn! love you long time, and congratulations!

  • @candyop391
    @candyop391 3 роки тому

    Your video is so useful

  • @lioncurlew
    @lioncurlew 5 місяців тому

    Quinn, any tips on timing a twin Cylinder LBSC "Molly" with Stephenson Link motion.
    Can I time one Cylinder and then the other, based on the method you show in this video?
    I assume that the non adjusted side would just be driven by the "Timed side, until both are adjusted?

  • @normppjr4429
    @normppjr4429 3 роки тому

    Very cool project

  • @rhavrane
    @rhavrane 3 роки тому

    Bonjour Quinn,
    What a pleasure to watch your vidéos. You build perfectly and understand what you do, so you can explain things simply for people like me. I am the lucky owner of a fleet with 0.5 to 20 cc steam machines, often bought second hand and adjusting their timiing is always a great difficulty for me, especially for the smaller ones. Will you also build a boiler, I do not remember if you already evoked that point?
    Amicalement Raphaël
    PS : Funny to see Keith following your work :+)

  • @Steviegtr52
    @Steviegtr52 3 роки тому

    Will you be building a steam power source for it.

  • @Glens1965
    @Glens1965 3 роки тому

    Great channel..Classy Lady, witty, hell of a machinist and ya I'm so ripping off that intro clip. :-)

  • @mauserkk98
    @mauserkk98 3 роки тому

    Very nice , have you picked a painting colour ?.

  • @Skaldewolf
    @Skaldewolf 3 роки тому

    Could you tell us perhaps the title of this book at 4:05 ? That sounds like a nice theoretical work on the subject.

  • @routercnc9517
    @routercnc9517 3 роки тому +1

    Chuffing marvellous!

  • @sperotsindos
    @sperotsindos 3 роки тому

    I really enjoyed this video series. The governor will be really interesting. I noticed when you applied the load the engine was in reverse. Was that the engine going in reverse or the video? Love your work.

  • @johncoxhead8706
    @johncoxhead8706 3 роки тому

    Are you going to make a water pump afterwards to run on this engine and a wooden frame to mount them on?
    Love to see you do it but I have enjoyed watching you all the way through

  • @rodneykiemele4721
    @rodneykiemele4721 3 роки тому

    Very informative

  • @vintagemotorsalways1676
    @vintagemotorsalways1676 2 роки тому

    3:38 What is the title of the book? EDIT: found it by searching an excerpt on google books "The Model Engineer and Amateur Electrician: A Journal of Mechanics ..., Volume 2"

  • @LabGoblin
    @LabGoblin 3 роки тому

    @blondihacks do you by chance know what that packing cord is called?

  • @jakeshaw2477
    @jakeshaw2477 3 роки тому +2

    I’ve just started building a Stuart Victoria.
    I’m a Marine Engineer with lathe experience but do you have any advice for a beginner to model engineering?

    • @jakeshaw2477
      @jakeshaw2477 3 роки тому

      @@bwyseymail Thanks. I have been watching Keith Appleton for years now. He’s pretty much the reason I’m getting into the hobby. I try to do everything as an engineer but sometimes Keith’s ways are so much easier.
      Thanks for the help.

    • @jakeshaw2477
      @jakeshaw2477 3 роки тому

      My biggest struggle so far are the imperial measurements. I understand the system but it’s very unnatural to me after years of working in metric. And all my tools and measuring devices are in metric. I’ve been working around this using a Zeus book and a good quality calculator

  • @jczeigler
    @jczeigler 3 роки тому

    Did you put the title of the old book into the video description?