What Is A Rotating Detonation Engine - And Why Are They Better Than Regular Engines

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  • Опубліковано 17 тра 2024
  • There's been a few stories recently about detonation engines and how they're supposed to be superior to traditional jet or rocket engines. So, what is a detonation engine, what's the difference between a pulsed and rotating engine and why does thermodynamics predict these are better than traditional engine designs.
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  • @lunaticseclipse
    @lunaticseclipse 4 роки тому +3851

    He didnt tell me thats he's scott manley and to fly safe at the end.
    I feel lost.

    • @Jagzeplin
      @Jagzeplin 4 роки тому +99

      he DID say hes scott manley. its literally the first thing he says

    • @jonas1340
      @jonas1340 4 роки тому +170

      Maybe he just did not think it would be necessary since nobody is actually flying these days... \__/

    • @scottmanley
      @scottmanley  4 роки тому +1411

      oops!
      I screwed up the edit!

    • @pseudotasuki
      @pseudotasuki 4 роки тому +209

      It was so jarring. I though I had accidentally pressed against my phone, causing it to skip forward.

    • @Diggnuts
      @Diggnuts 4 роки тому +212

      I have flown ... unsafe..

  • @Nick-qx2no
    @Nick-qx2no 4 роки тому +1460

    Now i am wondering if i have to fly safe or not....
    this world is full of uncertainties....

    • @Phelan666
      @Phelan666 4 роки тому +30

      It's not safe to flay these days.

    • @plcflame
      @plcflame 4 роки тому +35

      When you have something called "rotating detonation engine", you can't fly safe.

    • @S.ASmith
      @S.ASmith 4 роки тому +5

      If you can't Fly Safe.....Fly dangerous!

    • @StarkRG
      @StarkRG 4 роки тому +8

      Even if you ignore that, it ended very strangely. Feels like there was more to it, but he cut something out during editing and didn't record a new ending.

    • @KuraIthys
      @KuraIthys 4 роки тому +10

      @@Phelan666 I'm not sure flaying is ever safe... ;p
      At least, not for the person being flayed. XD

  • @AndreiKucharavy
    @AndreiKucharavy 4 роки тому +670

    "I don't have any rocket engines in my garden"
    - totally what someone with rocket engines in their garden would say.

    • @vagatronics
      @vagatronics 4 роки тому +4

      ikr

    • @nickjames4497
      @nickjames4497 4 роки тому +3

      TAndrei Kucharavy HaHa I would love to have a rocket engine in my garden !!

    • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
      @Allan_aka_RocKITEman 4 роки тому +12

      I was expecting Scott to add to the end of that statement: *"...YET."*
      😊😊😊

    • @robbiejames1540
      @robbiejames1540 3 роки тому +5

      As of today, i can confirm that i do have a rocket engine in my garden!

    • @gorillaau
      @gorillaau 3 роки тому +8

      @@robbiejames1540 After testing: You have a rocket engine in what was your garden.

  • @MillionFoul
    @MillionFoul 4 роки тому +1608

    You know, it's kind of funny: I'm taking a break from my thermo class to watch this video, and this video is half ideal heat engines!

    • @sonickiller360
      @sonickiller360 4 роки тому +42

      @MillionFoul I just had my final on the 2nd, gotta love those P-V diagrams.

    • @cloakedsniper5016
      @cloakedsniper5016 4 роки тому +7

      Has our first midterm on the 9th and will have our final on the 19th. Midterm was a disaster for everyone haha

    • @TROONTRON
      @TROONTRON 4 роки тому +14

      If you think thermo is kind of alright I strongly recommend going the career way of technical safety engineering. It's a load of fun dealing with fires and explosions all day

    • @chemputer
      @chemputer 4 роки тому +4

      You're gonna learn dammit!

    • @taddmaxwell8363
      @taddmaxwell8363 4 роки тому +3

      I failed my thermo exam😔😔

  • @chicoliu6057
    @chicoliu6057 4 роки тому +632

    It feels weird that you don’t wish us fly safe at the end of the video

    • @Nick-qx2no
      @Nick-qx2no 4 роки тому +19

      yeah , it was like - good night....

    • @scottmanley
      @scottmanley  4 роки тому +281

      It's a tragedy, I messed up the edit

    • @parajacks4
      @parajacks4 4 роки тому +19

      Chico Liu
      Doesn’t Scot want us to fly safe anymore?
      Has the recklessness of some Americans got to him?

    • @Nick-qx2no
      @Nick-qx2no 4 роки тому +4

      ​@@scottmanley it's one step closer to the end of the world

    • @-danR
      @-danR 4 роки тому +4

      @@scottmanley
      That's OK, I had this engine in a question the other day, and here it is!

  • @blurglide
    @blurglide 4 роки тому +606

    I helped build the first self-aspirating Pulsed Detonation Engine with Dr. Fred Schauer at Air Force Research Laboratory in 2003. It was built with junkyard parts (An old Honda motorcycle engine with the tubes jutting out between the block and head), but proved the concept. They made another non-self-aspirating PDE (it had a supercharger powered with a piston engine) that actually powered a Long-EZ in flight several years I left the program, which is the one you see at 3:50 in the video. You're just seeing the PDE there- the big compressor in the belly tank that fed it. I still have my engineering-pad sketches of a variety of rotating PDEs, except my ideas would have one wall of the tube rotate, or have the tubes rotate more like a gatling gun.

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide 4 роки тому +35

      @yeah I'm John Assal No actually these PDEs used a kind of simple metal helix inside the tube to initiate detonation. The idea was to not use mere automative valves.

    • @thumb-ugly7518
      @thumb-ugly7518 4 роки тому +8

      blurglide interesting! I imagine either an annular tube with a spinning core, annular tube with a rotating outer sleeve, or a Gatlin exhaust with the tubes each ‘’firing’’ as they read top dead center. I don’t understand enough, but I imagine a series of vanes synchronizing with my first two imaginings, and the Gatlin seems fairly straightforward. I’m probably wrong as all hell. I have no training in physics, but I do like to draw! This’ll be fun! Y’all take care.

    • @magnitudematrix2653
      @magnitudematrix2653 4 роки тому +7

      I was going to say make a rifled barreled tube, make the vanes of the rifling deep enough for a low pressure but increased velocities in the valleys of the rifling to keep the centripetal force of the rotating gases. Less moving parts. Also I would put a outer sleeve for cooling the main rifled tube like the J 58 engine. You could also make injectors at the top of the tube, each injector in a vein for a bit more hydrogen or oxidizer for a boost. That way the fuel would get pulled through the vanes for a natural aspiration. And you may want to have four valve bodies it would help to smooth out the pulses. I thought of this in ten minutes what do you think?

    • @zelkuta
      @zelkuta 4 роки тому +5

      Can I get one of those for my Hyundai? That's a badass engine.

    • @Bordpie
      @Bordpie 4 роки тому +12

      The thermodynamics of the detonation engine compared to standard rocket engines is very much like the new HCCI (Homogeneous Charge Compression Ignition) engines compared to standard petrol engines. HCCI engines have been developed which compress the air fuel mixture to just below spontaneous combustion. The spark plug then ignites the fuel air mixture and the slight pressure increase from deflagration causes detonation of the rest of the air fuel mixture. The pulsed detonation engine is basically an HCCI engine without the pistons and vice versa from what I can see. The rotating detonation engine looks like a very interesting concept, just need some way to stabilise the detonation wave. Maybe with a rotating inner or outer sleeve as you mentioned, with a shaped portion on the sleeve which moves with, and helps control, the detonation front.

  • @SupernovaSpence
    @SupernovaSpence 4 роки тому +180

    "Anyways, I'm Scott Manley! FLY SAFE!"
    WE MISSED YOUR OUTRO! 😕

    • @Wallyworld30
      @Wallyworld30 4 роки тому +4

      Spencer Coleman Ain’t nobody flying and Scott knows this!

    • @NordboDK
      @NordboDK 4 роки тому +1

      Shibboleth

    • @tk421dr
      @tk421dr 4 роки тому +5

      i think... he just gave us permission to fly dangerously.

    • @pneptun
      @pneptun 4 роки тому +2

      I was gonna say it for him! glad somebody already did! :)

    • @pfzht
      @pfzht 4 роки тому

      Pavlov no ringy bell.

  • @thebigboss972
    @thebigboss972 Рік тому +43

    As a PhD student researching combustion and detonation processes, I’m very impressed by how intuitively you explained the differences between the two. Great video!

    • @h7opolo
      @h7opolo Рік тому +1

      it seems like combustion to me, too, but specifically at "supersonic" speeds.

    • @thefreemonk6938
      @thefreemonk6938 Рік тому

      How to become like you?

  • @HydraulicPressChannel
    @HydraulicPressChannel 4 роки тому +450

    We managed to film transfer from deflagration to detonation in oxy-acetylene mixture last year with some serious high speed camera setup. Many viewers said that we almost made science by accident since it was so interesting shot :D Here is link to slow motion clip of that ua-cam.com/video/p9XandILnvk/v-deo.html
    Edit: I already forgot but seems that we also filmed rotating explosion with oxy-acetylene bubbles :D Just one lap but still. It's on end of the same video

    • @naturallyherb
      @naturallyherb 3 роки тому +6

      So awesome! Thank you!

    • @Ktulu789
      @Ktulu789 3 роки тому +14

      Imagine using the slomo ring to film a rotating detonation engine and synchronize the flame to the ring's rotation!

    • @BeeKisses
      @BeeKisses 3 роки тому

      HI LAURIE AND ANNIE

    • @patrickmalone1373
      @patrickmalone1373 3 роки тому +6

      Whoa Laurie and Anni watch Scott Manley? Sweet

    • @Kujeful
      @Kujeful 2 роки тому

      It could really be interesting to offer the Ring for these research labs. :D

  • @RebeccaSmith-yy8yi
    @RebeccaSmith-yy8yi 4 роки тому +254

    Dang, I forgot and just crashed my plane.

    • @Nick-qx2no
      @Nick-qx2no 4 роки тому +2

      now everything is screwed , the world is going to crash and fall apart.....

    • @patrickmalone1373
      @patrickmalone1373 4 роки тому +2

      Im dead too now. Manley failed us all.

    • @user2C47
      @user2C47 4 роки тому +3

      Lacking a requirement to fly safe, the Insane American flew very deadly.
      **Dual Vulcan sound*
      **GAU-8 sound*
      **GBU-16 sound*
      **AGM-65 sound*
      **Various explosions*
      Damage: about $1200000, 12 wounded.

    • @KuraIthys
      @KuraIthys 4 роки тому +3

      @@user2C47 Only about $1.2 million? Some missiles cost more than that. XD

    • @rysacroft
      @rysacroft 4 роки тому +2

      @@user2C47 Many years ago my parents took me to an air show. I stood on the roof of our car (in those days cars were built of thicker steel) and clutching my camera awaited the Vulcan flyby. This is hard to put into words but maybe "awesome", "bonkers" and other adjectives will apply. As the Vulcan flew low overhead I nearly fell off the roof of the car, everything shook!
      I got the the shot but the Vulcan looked quite small, it was only a basic camera. I can never forget that!

  • @vishnuvishnuprful
    @vishnuvishnuprful 4 роки тому +123

    • RDE’s need a single initiation for operation and the combustion is self-sustained. The detonation waves will stabilize in a short duration.
    • Frequency of operation is of the order of KHz. Which makes uniform exhaust flow downstream of the combustor.
    • Compared to PDE’s the thrust produced by an RDE is continuous. The detonation waves are enclosed inside the channel which reduces the energy lose with exhaust. Which makes it a suitable replacement for the gas turbine combustor.
    • The reactant inflow does not require any flapping valves as well as it is a self-pressurizing system. The injection pressure loss will be overcome by pressure gain combustion. So it is easy to integrate it with an axial compressor with lesser number of stages.
    • RDE’s have very high power density, so that the size of the combustor reduces drastically.
    • Smaller the size of the combustor, smaller will be the losses due to wall heat transfer. Moreover, the exhaust flow can be simply approximated to a 1D quasi steady flow.
    • It is easy to resize the combustor because there isn’t any hard rule for the size constraints.
    • Fuel injection system associated with such combustors are fairly simple, as they don’t need any moving parts or swirlers.
    • Integration with an existing turbine stage will be easy because of lower unsteady pressure fluctuations downstream of a properly designed RDE combustor.
    • Propagation of the detonation wave independent of direction of inflow and outflow of reactants and products respectively. Such combustor can be easily integrated to axial as well as centrifugal compressors.
    • Even though there is no need of a secondary air for dilution of exhaust, if employed it will further reduce the periodic oscillations downstream of the combustor.
    • RDE’s possess large effective thrust, which is a measure of how well the total pressure of reactants are converted to thrust. So an engine employed with RDE combustor can work with lesser number of compressor stages compared to the same system with a constant pressure combustors.
    • Large specific thrust and high Specific impulse of the system make sure the maximum utilization of the available air.
    • Operating space (mass flow rate of reactants vs equivalence ratio) is wide for an RDE combustor. So it can be effectively operated with equivalence ratios required for low emissions.
    • Most preferable reactants which can be initiated are H2 and O2 combination. So having a clean combustion is favored with such combustors.
    • The mode control is not well defined as of now and there are scope of having multiple co rotating detonation propagation can improve the capabilities of this combustor.

    • @DistracticusPrime
      @DistracticusPrime 4 роки тому +11

      So, in addition to increased efficiency and many other benefits, it sounds like RDE's should be lighter and more compact. Does that mean RDE's also promise better thrust-to-weight ratio?

    • @bergonius
      @bergonius 4 роки тому +9

      How throttlable is it? Can we land rockets with it?

    • @737smartin
      @737smartin 4 роки тому +2

      Time to practical application?

    • @therealpbristow
      @therealpbristow 4 роки тому +9

      @@DistracticusPrime Too soon to tell about "lighter and more compact", surely, since we don't have a practical working design and don't know yet what additional hardware/reinforcement/plumbing will be added to make one. But even if they're heavier and *less* compact than current engines, the improved efficiency will, at some particular breakpoint, make up for that. And then we'll be in for lots of interesting new discussions about optimal vehicle design. =:o}

    • @SharkY1092
      @SharkY1092 4 роки тому +8

      It's not easy to find conditions, where the waves stabilize. I'm not really informed on that subject, as I had a brief contact with it in 2014, while doing my internship, yet I remember the problems. It was extremely difficult to find conditions, where the waves were created in a repeatable pattern - sometimes it was just one, sometimes two, or even three. And then, the biggest problem at that point of the project, was the transition from H2 to jet fuel. It was a real bummer for the team, when the engine flamed out just after couple of seconds or sometimes the exhaust gas temperature rose above the critical for the turbine, which meant that they had to switch it off and the whole procedure had to be repeated. It was called a success, when they managed to get 25s of continous work.
      I only wish, I kept in touch with the team, to track their progress. I only hope, that some team from around the world will finally manage to keep it all steady and reliable, as the idea of RDE always seemed great for me.

  • @CarlJohnson-xz1rs
    @CarlJohnson-xz1rs 4 роки тому +137

    I'm confused as to who teaches me about rocket science after the video ended.

    • @1224chrisng
      @1224chrisng 4 роки тому +10

      I was equally confused about whether or not I should fly safe

    • @quadcarnage8462
      @quadcarnage8462 4 роки тому +3

      Get a parrot it might repeat the finer points afterwards. Fly safe.

  • @novikovPrinciple
    @novikovPrinciple 4 роки тому +156

    ... so you're telling me I can put an explosive device that rotates under my Kerbals?

    • @MushVPeets
      @MushVPeets 4 роки тому +34

      Well, you can always do that, but now you can put a static device under your Kerbals and have a constant explosion inside it spinning around.

    • @memotype
      @memotype 4 роки тому +9

      Well, you have until his next video to try it since we don't have to "fly safe" until then :P

    • @BosonCollider
      @BosonCollider 4 роки тому +7

      The device doesn't rotate, the shockwave of the explosion does

    • @martythemartian99
      @martythemartian99 4 роки тому +3

      I suppose that's one way to get a DIY vasectomy :D

    • @revenevan11
      @revenevan11 4 роки тому +9

      Sounds like a kraken summoning ritual to me!

  • @darioinfini
    @darioinfini 4 роки тому +128

    I've got a flight to catch in the morning and I feel very nervous after the end of this video...

    • @jannegrey593
      @jannegrey593 4 роки тому +27

      Fly safe!

    • @darioinfini
      @darioinfini 4 роки тому +14

      @@jannegrey593 Thank you, I feel better.

    • @sawspitfire422
      @sawspitfire422 4 роки тому +3

      Don't worry, most deaths associated with aircraft accidents are near instantaneous so if you do die it will likely be painless

    • @darioinfini
      @darioinfini 4 роки тому +5

      @Anant Tiwari Yes, the engine detonated but I figured it was a new development in the aviation world so I was fine with it.

    • @NvTwist
      @NvTwist 4 роки тому

      [SAW]Spitfire [SAW]Spitfire and if it’s a prolonged death you won’t remember the agony anyways... 🤔 😉

  • @phoephoe795
    @phoephoe795 4 роки тому +44

    4:14
    You do realise you've just challenged Colin Furze to build a supersonic pulsed-detonation engine....
    (this is gonna be awesome)

  • @manuellorenzo4655
    @manuellorenzo4655 4 роки тому +40

    I demand a pinned comment by Scott saying "I'm Scott Manley, fly safe".

    • @mattomanx77
      @mattomanx77 4 роки тому +1

      Scott please, if you even are Scott! How can we know?!

  • @Garryck-1
    @Garryck-1 2 роки тому +70

    So who else is here now that Japan has actually flown a RDE?

  • @beeble2003
    @beeble2003 4 роки тому +41

    If Colin Furze sees this video, you just know that he's going to find pulsed detonation _way_ cooler than pulsed deflagration and he's going to build one. And do something ridiculous with it.

    • @maksuree
      @maksuree 4 роки тому +3

      He's going to gravity feed it several thousand paintballs or something isn't he, destroyer of paintball worlds

    • @bodyno3158
      @bodyno3158 3 роки тому +2

      That's it, folks, hypersonic unicycle.

  • @haydenvoelker4914
    @haydenvoelker4914 2 роки тому +11

    Here after the JAXA flight!

  • @kenosisaeternumprj
    @kenosisaeternumprj 2 роки тому +7

    I Came from the future. Jaxa proved that the engine works in space. The test was a success.

  • @MushVPeets
    @MushVPeets 4 роки тому +131

    I guess there's no flying safe with a literal detonation constantly under your rear end.

    • @NilesBlackX
      @NilesBlackX 4 роки тому +2

      I mean... Your car does that too

    • @paullangford8179
      @paullangford8179 4 роки тому

      V-1 did OK. The test versions were piloted. But deafening!

    • @Morpheus-pt3wq
      @Morpheus-pt3wq 4 роки тому +1

      Nothing is safe if you consider all risks of technology used for transport. Even walking around is dangerous in it´s own way.

  • @piratecheese13
    @piratecheese13 2 роки тому +7

    Jaxa demonstrated one in space. Time for an update

  • @dmitryincog7455
    @dmitryincog7455 4 роки тому +15

    You videos strike a perfect balance between hardcore science and a pop sci. It's super hard to explain such complex topics without degrading into totally handwavy talks. And it involves very good understanding of the subject. I can't even imagine how much researching do you put in.
    UA-cam is a better place thanks to you! Thank you :)

  • @LazerLord10
    @LazerLord10 4 роки тому +66

    That pulse animation made me think about revving up a rocket like a car, lol.
    I wonder if VTEC will kick in?
    yo

  • @pawelrek
    @pawelrek 4 роки тому +12

    Scott, take a look at work of Jan Kindracki from Warsaw University of Technology, Poland. This guy is was recently taking care of applying a RD into an old Russian turbine engine (GTD-350) to prove a concept. Jan is great teacher (during our studies we had some lectures about RDE to better understand it) and he's really responsive. As far as I remember he was able to sustain a detonation in a relatively small rocket engine (100-200N?) for 10+ seconds if I remember correctly. Awesome dude and his lab even better. Don't quote me on numbers - it was years ago.

  • @AndreiKucharavy
    @AndreiKucharavy 4 роки тому +30

    Also, next video from Colin Furze: "hold my beer, let me build a detonation jet engine"

    • @confuded
      @confuded 4 роки тому +4

      Tea with milk you mean. Underrated comment though. Need to ping Colin.

  • @loverchunky3072
    @loverchunky3072 2 роки тому +6

    JAXA has tested a rotating detonation engine in space.

  • @andrewmandrona7891
    @andrewmandrona7891 4 роки тому +23

    WHO WOULD WIN:
    A multi-stage turbine with hundreds of perfectly machined inconel blades
    OR
    A tube with some spark plugs and fuel injectors

  • @BlackWolf42-
    @BlackWolf42- 4 роки тому +70

    I sort of feel like this video didn't wrap up properly. I'm a little light headed in fact. What happened?

  • @Krzysztof_z_Bagien
    @Krzysztof_z_Bagien 4 роки тому +37

    No flying safe with those detonation engines I guess :D
    Makes sense.

  • @lordofudead
    @lordofudead 4 роки тому +8

    11:14 "Im Scott Manley, Fly Safe"
    We all needed to hear it.

  • @anubhavdwivedi7237
    @anubhavdwivedi7237 3 роки тому +1

    This is a great introduction to RDTs. I am impressed with how you encapsulated the challenge of modeling this theoretically, especially with regard to the development of multiple detonation fronts.

  • @markhatch1267
    @markhatch1267 4 роки тому +20

    As a life long fan of space flight (watched first moon landing when I was 5), I have been slowly learning the technical aspects of rockets. My dad was a race engine builder. One of the things that allows a auto engine to work is that it cycles the most heat stresses parts. Getting a little time to cool makes the metals used able to deliver amazing performance. Sounds like it's time to apply the same idea to rocket engines.

    • @HuntingTarg
      @HuntingTarg 4 роки тому +4

      Possibly - one of the things to understand about rockets is that they are:
      1- not 'mass-produced' and therefore more given to using exotic materials than most engine blocks
      2- focus more on constant thermodynamics and on thermal stress tolerances than 'duty cycles', whether milliseconds or minutes long; one of these ideas is found in nozzle designs, specifically in ablative vs. rigid, and the innovation of _regenerative cooling._
      Dealing with detonations would require more of the engineering involved in harmonic balancing for driveshafts - dampeming/destroying vibrations & such.
      If you haven't already, look up Scott's video on designing and testing the F-1 engine for the Saturn V.

    • @markhatch1267
      @markhatch1267 4 роки тому +1

      @@HuntingTarg In response to point 1: It is the exhaust valves that are the most thermally and structurally stressed part in a 4-stroke piston engine. Modern race engines routinely make use of exotic alloys for the valve & seat. The amazing performance would not be possible without the time for cooling while closed.
      In response to point 2: I have been well aware of the basic technical features of our current state of the art in rocket engines since I was in my twenties when the space shuttle was in development.
      What I am trying to say is that intermittent combustion based on the detonation cycle (while fully aware of how hard it will be to work out the harmonic stresses) would allow us to leverage the use of the best materials even more than they are now. A 25% efficiency improvement is a BIG chunk of mass in fuel. Engines could be a lot heavier and still come out ahead.

    • @HuntingTarg
      @HuntingTarg 4 роки тому

      @@markhatch1267 👍
      We're roughly the same age and came into real-life rocketry through the same avenue - the Orbiter program.
      I'm aware of the thermomechanical stresses on valve covers, and while you're quite right, 90+% of any production-line engine block is some variety of hardened steel or cast aluminum - economies of scale don't like high-tolerance, expensive parts. (I said 'more given to', since the quantities rocket motors are made in lines up with Supercars).

    • @HuntingTarg
      @HuntingTarg 4 роки тому

      @@markhatch1267
      I have a notion, that in a rocket engine that is typically designed for radially aymmetrical collimvariable flow, a 'rotating detonation' within the combustion chamber could introduce undesirable flow instabilities. While this may or may mot be a problem, I have to wonder what a rocket motor designed for vortical flow would be like - and _then_ wonder what detonation front would be like in _that_ engine... 🤷‍♂️💡

    • @markhatch1267
      @markhatch1267 4 роки тому

      @@HuntingTarg Did you really mean valve covers, or is that a typo?

  • @supersonictsunami8768
    @supersonictsunami8768 4 місяці тому +3

    Scott, you are so freaking concise....that was a GREAT video, amongst many of ur best. ....of which, you have many. Thx for all your hard work educating us laymen, to help us grapple these insanely intelligent concepts from other, alien-level-smart, humans.
    Kudos, happy new year!

  • @flyerminer
    @flyerminer 4 роки тому +2

    Fantastic video, you explained this thoroughly and clearly. Im a Mechanical engineering major and you refreshed some of my thermo concepts while explaining something new. Thank you so much for putting this together!

  • @GarranGossage
    @GarranGossage 4 роки тому

    Thank you for another awesome video! After I saw some articles about this I have been patiently waiting for your video so I can actually understand it.

  • @andremoreau7057
    @andremoreau7057 4 роки тому +9

    You need to make a part 2 to this one. It is very interesting. I want to see the actual device(s) built.

  • @807800
    @807800 Рік тому +3

    Already watched this before, but now it's time for a refresh.

    • @merky6004
      @merky6004 Рік тому

      Are you me? Because that's why i am here. Also SM is the science instructor we need.

  • @EnginAtik
    @EnginAtik 4 роки тому

    Very nice to have some heat engine thermodynamic cycles explained by charts. It is difficult to go into efficiency calculations without covering a lot of background material but pointing out that work corresponds to the enclosed area in P-V diagram as you did gives a very good idea of what is involved in increasing efficiency.

  • @adamdapatsfan
    @adamdapatsfan 4 роки тому

    I had been looking for a nice overview of this concept. Thanks for the excellent watch!

  • @r0cketplumber
    @r0cketplumber 4 роки тому +17

    They tested that (3:50) PDE at 5 am on a Saturday, a mile away from my apartment in Mojave. This woke me, terrified my cats, and pissed me off. It cut off after a few seconds, and a minute or three later did another burst. And again... the effect was like having a machine gun going off outside my window.
    Long story short, they were confronted by a wild man wearing two layers of hearing protection who threw a total screaming obscenity-laden fit at them. Further static tests were done in the day time at the far side of the airport from the town.

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp 4 роки тому

      do you have any video footage?

    • @juhalampola1954
      @juhalampola1954 4 роки тому +2

      Just hearing protection? I mean, if it was early in the morning...

    • @tomstech4390
      @tomstech4390 4 роки тому

      Yet concorde was not allowed in america.

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 4 роки тому

      @@tomstech4390 Concorde was used almost exclusively on the New York routes, so clearly allowed in America.

    • @dsdy1205
      @dsdy1205 3 роки тому

      @@johndododoe1411 it wasn't allowed OVER the US

  • @thenotflatearth2714
    @thenotflatearth2714 4 роки тому +13

    Can’t wait to see A10 pointing its head down and take off vertically using its rotating detonation engine

  • @tulsatrash
    @tulsatrash Рік тому

    Thank you very much for making and sharing this video Scott Manley.

  • @Royce3001
    @Royce3001 4 роки тому

    Scott. You've gone and done it again and made a brilliant and educational video about my favourite things once again! Thank you!

  • @benjaminsison2266
    @benjaminsison2266 4 роки тому +61

    Are you Scott Manley? Do we fly safe?

    • @patrickmalone1373
      @patrickmalone1373 4 роки тому +14

      I think he's Mott Scanley and we're to crash and burn. Good day, i go to my death now.

    • @user2C47
      @user2C47 4 роки тому +1

      No. We fly deadly.

  • @pyrogreg07
    @pyrogreg07 4 роки тому +21

    Grats on 1 million subs I didn't notice!!

  • @TheMrBrendo
    @TheMrBrendo 2 роки тому

    seriously the best rocket content! you make the concepts so readily available and easy to comprehend, thank you!!!

  • @malachilandis9542
    @malachilandis9542 4 роки тому

    Scott,
    Before the current virus situation, I was able to sit in on a faculty hiring meeting for Dr. John Bennewitz. His specific area of research was rotating detonation engines so I got to see a lot of what you've just brought up. It was quite interesting to see what he was working on with the Air Force Lab in California, some pretty neat computer vision techniques being used to monitor those flame fronts and try to derive the patterns behind when the extinguish. Very cool that you've done a video on it.
    Thanks.

  • @DanielWilliams-oi4ss
    @DanielWilliams-oi4ss 2 роки тому +4

    Here on the heels of the news that JAXA just successfully tested their RDE in space!

  • @ryanhampson673
    @ryanhampson673 2 роки тому +3

    Japan just successfully tested this engine on a rocket.

  • @judet2992
    @judet2992 3 місяці тому +1

    4:20 Those shock diamonds are sick! I never knew you could see them in thermals.
    Also, nice.

  • @ericfermin8347
    @ericfermin8347 4 роки тому +2

    This is the Scott Manley I like.
    1. Tells me something I didn't know before the video
    2. Just technical enough to wet my engineer and mathematical whistle
    3. The subject is interesting
    4. Scott Manley isn't in a bath-robe

    • @therealpbristow
      @therealpbristow 4 роки тому

      Wait, what? He's not wearing a bathrobe? Dammit, I didn't even notice he was *naked*...!!! =8oO

  • @kerbonautics5217
    @kerbonautics5217 4 роки тому +23

    Last time I was this early you were making KSP tutorials

    • @momokochama1844
      @momokochama1844 4 роки тому

      just from reading the title I thought this was one xD

  • @denisshulakov
    @denisshulakov 4 роки тому +3

    A real indicator of channel popularity is how many people comment "he didn't say fly safe!" :)

  • @chronus4421
    @chronus4421 4 роки тому +1

    That was some really neat photography with the bottle! Thanks!

  • @hipser
    @hipser 4 роки тому

    I'm soooo happy you covered this! I was waiting...

  • @VaderDarth512
    @VaderDarth512 4 роки тому +8

    I understand like 10% of what he says yet still watch his videos for some reason...

  • @fhmconsulting4982
    @fhmconsulting4982 4 роки тому +5

    Thanks Scott for your usual enlightening explanation for plebs like me. This looks like a real step up in efficiency so I am sure buckets of money are being thrown at it.
    Everytime I see video of that prototype I think of Firefly, or back even further the original Jupiter II. :) Who knew Irwin Allen was a physics visionary?

  • @patricks_music
    @patricks_music 4 роки тому

    I love watching these videos midday at work. It’s a mood.

  • @Mbonner73
    @Mbonner73 4 місяці тому

    I'm a simple man, a farmer and yet this stuff absolutely amazes me...... I'll be in my shop later messing with fire and telling my son to "hold my beer, watch this" and later tonight we'll be sitting in the ER and my wife will be saying "WTF were you thinking" ...... Thanks for posting another fun video, let's see what we can build now🎉

  • @davidprock904
    @davidprock904 4 роки тому +3

    Months ago I thought of an engine design with only one moving part, it has the core principles of functioning the way a Wankel Engine works, but doesn't have an odd circular path, the center part stays fixed in place while spinning, no shims to wear out, and it doesn't need oil, just grease for two bearings, Centrifugal forces bring in new fuel and air, also exhausting burnt fuel. This engine is also perfect for using HHO

  • @confusedrhino
    @confusedrhino 4 роки тому +50

    I didn't feel safe at the end

  • @Redsson56
    @Redsson56 Рік тому

    Very well done. You had great graphics. They were very well leveraged and your teaching explanation was superb. Thank you.

  • @wade727nelson
    @wade727nelson 7 місяців тому

    Great job on this video Scott.

  • @myojinofnightsreach346
    @myojinofnightsreach346 Рік тому +3

    Time for a new Rotating Detonation Rocket Engine video!!

  • @claxvii177th6
    @claxvii177th6 4 роки тому +34

    Yaaay! I've been geeking about this for long time

    • @a32k57
      @a32k57 4 роки тому +2

      HOORAY! (Let's make it happen.)

    • @bruhdabones
      @bruhdabones 4 роки тому +1

      Claxvii 177th **for

    • @SECONDQUEST
      @SECONDQUEST 4 роки тому +1

      I hate your name. Remember, my opinion does not matter, I am just a random person on the internet. But I hate that name.

    • @bruhdabones
      @bruhdabones 4 роки тому +1

      SECONDQUEST looking for who asked 🧐🔎

    • @claxvii177th6
      @claxvii177th6 4 роки тому +2

      @@SECONDQUEST lol, we can't all be as cool as Scott Manley

  • @Stripy42
    @Stripy42 2 роки тому

    This is so good as a general lesson in heat engine cycles. You explained it better than weeks of University!

  • @chrictonj9503
    @chrictonj9503 4 роки тому

    Great slo-mo footage of your kitchen experiment. Interesting to see residual flame fronts continue to move around after the initial one.

  • @alexsiemers7898
    @alexsiemers7898 4 роки тому +59

    They’ll need to rebrand this engine type to not use the word “detonation” if public approval is ever needed.

    • @SpaghettiMarinarable
      @SpaghettiMarinarable 4 роки тому +11

      Vortical shock and awengine?

    • @sysfx
      @sysfx 4 роки тому +13

      Humphrey Cycle Engine

    • @hrissan
      @hrissan 4 роки тому +8

      They could use “Humphrey Cycle Engine”...

    • @chrismofer
      @chrismofer 4 роки тому +4

      rapid combustion? edit: i like Humphrey Cycle lol much like a Wankel.

    • @alexandermarvin9536
      @alexandermarvin9536 4 роки тому +13

      Kind of like the Magnetic Resonance Imagining (MRI) was renamed from Nuclear Resonance Imaging.

  • @simonabunker
    @simonabunker 2 роки тому +3

    I think JAXA just demonstrated one of these in space.

  • @Ikbeneengeit
    @Ikbeneengeit 4 роки тому

    Thank you for another great video, would love a more in depth thermodynamics analyse of various engines

  • @NinerFourWhiskey
    @NinerFourWhiskey 4 роки тому +1

    Absolutely excellent! Best explanation of detonation and deflagration I've ever seen. Thanks!

  • @vovacat1797
    @vovacat1797 4 роки тому +6

    I think I just found the best name for this one... The Ouroboros Drive

  • @Absaalookemensch
    @Absaalookemensch 4 роки тому +4

    Any jet engine with the name "detonation" in it must be awesome.

  • @lifeisgood6962
    @lifeisgood6962 4 роки тому

    You do a great job of explaining processes. Thank you.

  • @geronimotudor3386
    @geronimotudor3386 4 роки тому

    I have been wondering about this and how it works for a LONNNNNGGGGGGGG time now. Thanks Scott for explaining! Favorite Channel! Fly safe man!

  • @BnORailFan
    @BnORailFan 4 роки тому +6

    That went over my head by about the same altitude as the ISS but it sounds interesting.

  • @77gravity
    @77gravity 4 роки тому +6

    "enthalpy" - a new word for me - had to google that one.

  • @mavenhelm
    @mavenhelm 4 роки тому

    love your content, let us know when you're back in Seattle

  • @DeusMalleus
    @DeusMalleus 4 роки тому

    A friend is actually working on this at Argonne, totally were brainstorming this topic a couple summers back in a nearby Starbucks haha! Totally gonna show him your video Scott

  • @Ixions
    @Ixions 4 роки тому +3

    "Rotating Detonation Engine" is what I named the first rocket I ever built in KSP

  • @merxellus1456
    @merxellus1456 4 роки тому +5

    I rewatched Scotts old video to hear him say, *"Im Scott Manley, FLYSAFE"*

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp 4 роки тому +3

      indeed, he was Scott Manley Flysafe

  • @Insanitypants80
    @Insanitypants80 3 роки тому

    Loved the shout out to Colin Furze.
    Talking of channel cross-talk, Lindybeige did a nice little vid on heat engines, specifically the Stirling Engine.

  • @davidchanget2563
    @davidchanget2563 3 роки тому

    VERY interesting. Thank you for making this video! I imagine the biggest hurdle with rotating detonation engines is fuel delivery timing consistency. It seems that consistency in fuel delivery timing must be extremely accurate.

  • @zoltankurti
    @zoltankurti 4 роки тому +9

    The end was a jumpscare.

  • @pauldzim
    @pauldzim 4 роки тому +4

    So when I used to drive my crappy car that pinged whenever I stepped on the gas, I actually had a fancy super-efficient detonation engine. Cool!

  • @ventura1957
    @ventura1957 4 роки тому

    You presented the most simple explanation about Carnot cycle I have seen.

  • @fjs1111
    @fjs1111 2 роки тому

    Always had an interest in pulse jet engines so this is fascinating. Thank you Scott.

  • @sudantarescosmonautics9422
    @sudantarescosmonautics9422 4 роки тому +5

    Hey, where's my "I'm Scott Manley, fly safe."?

  • @Smidge204
    @Smidge204 4 роки тому +5

    A rotating detonation combustion chamber seems almost ideal for an aerospike nozzle geometry...

    • @-danR
      @-danR 4 роки тому +3

      The less confining geometry of the aerospike might actually iron out some instability problems of the revolving shock.

  • @terranearthling9918
    @terranearthling9918 3 роки тому

    Your literally answering all the questions I had on Rotating Detonation Engines. Awesome stuff.

    • @ArneChristianRosenfeldt
      @ArneChristianRosenfeldt 2 місяці тому

      When going from linear to rotation, where do the valves go? Has the rotating engine 100 valves which sustain the pressure of the shock wave?

  • @EtzEchad
    @EtzEchad 4 роки тому

    Fascinating. I thought I knew quite a bit about heat engines but I'd never heard about this.

  • @nagualdesign
    @nagualdesign 4 роки тому +4

    (10:00) I love a good graph.

  • @markotrieste
    @markotrieste 4 роки тому +3

    This constant volume heat delivery reminds me of the Otto cycle, which, for a given compression ratio, has higher efficiency than the Diesel cycle. Funny enough, you can't increase the compression ratio in an Otto engine too much because of, well... detonation :-)

    • @williamzk9083
      @williamzk9083 Рік тому

      Many of the problems of preignition and detonation have been solved with the HCCI Homogeneous Charge Compression Ignition. The charge is ignited by either injecting a easu to ignite liquid such as DME (Dimethy Ether) or manipulation of the air fuel ratio and exhaust gas re-circulation. The RCCI engine Reactivity Controlled Compression adds a spark plug. Daimler Benz was testing them in WW2 all the way to 40,000ft. Formula 1 use them and they are 45%-50% efficient. It's likely they will operate to 58% efficiency. Better than fuel cells.

  • @michaeldunlavey6015
    @michaeldunlavey6015 4 роки тому

    Thanks, Scott. You always do nice work.
    Just a nit: the heat engine, in going along the bottom of the cycle from 3 to 4, does _negative_ work, subtracting from the positive work done 1-2. The useful work is the area of the cycle.

  • @ImpiusNex
    @ImpiusNex 4 роки тому

    Thank you for taking the time to show us non-engineer types the theory behind this new engine type.

  • @KyleDB150
    @KyleDB150 4 роки тому +10

    I'm a mechanical engineer and just watching a video of this thing makes me think "vibration problems"

    • @HuntingTarg
      @HuntingTarg 4 роки тому +1

      Ayep - not dissimilar to designing the F-1...

    • @badbeardbill9956
      @badbeardbill9956 4 роки тому

      Shouldn’t be an issue with the rotating detonation engine

    • @JohnDoe-rx3vn
      @JohnDoe-rx3vn 4 роки тому

      These engines will also create a slight rotational torque, i bet

    • @zrspangle
      @zrspangle 4 роки тому

      @@JohnDoe-rx3vn "slight"

  • @selbie
    @selbie 4 місяці тому +3

    Came back here after seeing the NASA test footage! Thanks for making a great explanation!

  • @cjgreen3836
    @cjgreen3836 4 роки тому

    I really love your content Scott, you (and a few other channels) have given me the confidence to start my own channel, "Tinkering in Thailand", where I intend to VLOG my tinkering with stuff in my workshop and on my farm. Thanks mate, and stay safe.

  • @trottermalone379
    @trottermalone379 4 роки тому

    Finally!! A UA-cam content provider that knows the difference between an engine and a motor!!!