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Couple comments as i was very close to buying this model. 1. The tow rating that winnebago states at 3500# is a bit odd when this is a 1 ton with a tow capacity of 6700. So even taking into account the payload, i dont think they have 3k pounds in the back of the van. 2. That price is just crazy! These vans were going for under 100k just last year. I am still seing new ones for right at 100k. One thing that is going to hit this year will need to be price reductions. The pandemic pushed rv prices to just be too outragious.
The towing capacity is limited by the GCVWR of 12K lbs. With 2650 lbs between the GVWR and GCVWR I suspect their max tow rating is based on a very high dry weight which also means a very low cargo capacity.
Prices are mostly higher as it’s a new chassis with great safety features. Plus the newer version is on a newer chassis yet which has a new front clip. B vans are still popular, so no big downward adjustment.
@@Patrick_Ross not really… not on B vans. C and travel trails sure. And b vans have come down but not huge amounts. The van I bought a year ago is about 2k less today. Factor in a great loan rate back in 2022 feb and the fun I had. Zero regrets.
That overhead and rear bed is far easier to use than most other Class Bs👍my only concerns are the tiny fridge that is too small for 4 people, and I don’t think anyone wants to have to poop with the door open in front of 3 other people😂
Thank you for being honest about the towing capacity. You always mention "know before you tow". Good to see you back Becky! Andrea is the bomb, but Becky is keepin' it real.
Hi Matt and Becky B. It’s always good to see Becky! This is nice. There is no micro wave in this. Unless there’s is one I didn’t see. I love that they made the pop top a little bigger. The bathroom seems tight a little bit. And I would trip like Andrea from the steps on the floor. I love the camera and love the fact it sleeps 4 people. And love the outdoor shower. Thank you Matt and Becky B.
*Matt is the BEST !!!!* I "cracked-up", LAUGHING when Becky said "when you need to get away from people"" ... LOL ANYONE that has worked in Retail, or customer service, or with the general public, KNOWS what Becky was meaning !!!! LOLOL 🤣🤣😂
Hey Matt...Chevrolet has had the rear mirror camera since at least 2018 on certain models. It's great to see other manufacturers adding it to their vehicles too!
I have a camper van self build and would like to add a rear view mirror camera. Can you share the one in this van or another model you recommend? Thanks
Thank you Matt... I was literally just thinking, I wonder if I can use Liquified in a cassette toilet and you were on it. And, another great tour by Becky B...👍
We bought a 2023 59PX last fall and like it very much. One thing to be aware of is that Ram built the base chassis with numerous “chassis deviations”. Due to parts shortages some of the standard features may or may not have been installed. For example ours has chassis deviation G with the following missing standard features: 7” Display only - no 10” Touch Screen, No Navigation, No Auto High beam, Analog Dash Cluster, No wireless charging, No Passive Entry & No Rearview Parksense. A meager credit of $725 was provided for the missing items. Ours did come with adaptive cruise and deluxe leather seats but some did not. In fact the vehicle reviewed by Matt had cloth seats and did not have the 10” touch screen. The worst part for many of us is that these deviations were not always properly disclosed and explained by Winnebago dealers. Still a nice vehicle but be sure to find a unit without missing standard features. For more info go to the Winnebago Solis Owners and Wannabees Facebook page where this issue is fully discussed.
Love the screen! Wish thehobs were up and down instead of wide. A better way to use counter space. Is there a cover for the sink? More counter space. Great presentation!
My dislikes are same. I'd be tripping on that floor like crazy! Also, not a fan of the bathroom. It looks REALLY awkward. The outdoor shower with the rail is awesome, so I'd primarily use that. But during cold temps (AKA Utah winters), I'd have a hard time using the wet bath. It'd be for SOS moments ONLY... I love the Murphy bed, the kitchen/counter space (but I'd rather have the induction), the garage area. And that pop up top tent is actually pretty large! IF someone was staying in that, the bathroom would be used as additional closet space. AND I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE, LOVE, the short front for easy parking for those of that struggle!
Love the x in the px. That extra storage is incredible. Didn't notice a propane quick connect, that should be essential. The toilet is a non factor for me. Number 1 is all we allow for my family in our rv's. Everything else is outhouse or bathroom.
Matt, you said at minute 5:30 that the genny is propane. I'd thought it was gasoline from the gas tank. Could you please confirm one way or the other? Thanks!
Matt, would you discuss the fees for General? Like delivery, inspection, ( upwards of $3,500). Also warranty, service and gap insurance that is sold by the f&i staff. End price can be $10,000 more!
ram is a rebranded Fiat Ducato from italy, the cost is around 50k in RV van converted models and 25k in truck van version, i think RVs costs less in italy and Europe in general, houses too... any advantage in living in USA?
i learned something new in this video. The suspension improvements--didn't catch those. the price is still too high. seen the px for much less, but this is one of the most well-done b vans out there. wish it was diesel and/or plug-in hybrid...but 19 mpg isn't bad at all.
$153 no microwave and no tv. Not even a prime pooping. I did like the way the pop top comes up. The mirror seemed a little distracting. Nice air conditioner.. I have a scope 18a same set up. Wish I had that easier poptop but still luv my van.
Does this van come with a gas engine and a bigger bathroom with a separate shower located in the back without all the not needed bedding? Convert the front seats into eating and sleeping. Thank God this one doesn't have a stupid closet stopping the driver seat from turning all the way around.
Wow - there are a lot of moving parts in this tight space unit-I think you would have to step outside to change your mind. Anybody else feel claustrophobic looking at the pop-top sleeper? Good video Matt and Becky!!
I looked at the 59 PX at General RV in Ocala, Florida. All the cabinet doors were laying haphazardly on the floor. They actually showed it to me this way without attempting to move them out of the way. They use high pressure sales tactics. When I got up to leave the salesman said “wait just a couple of minutes while I talk to my manager” etc…manager comes over and they both try to get me to leave a deposit. Got home and started reading their reviews online. Holy $hit!! Can’t think of anything good to say about this dealer except stay far away.
Bro for real the Solis is the best layout hands down I based my van build off of it. The layout allows the most functional space for a family who goes out on the weekend it allows you the space to move around I could say way more about why this layout is the best use of space hands down. I was going to buy the Solis but decided building would be a better option for me given my skillset
Try emptying that cassette at 2:00am when your lit. You know its going to happen. Some old guy drunk off his butt staggering all over the place pulling his cassette all over the campgrounds looking for the public toilet at 2:00am, knkocking on people's RV, "hey can you tell me where the bathroom is...the light came on & I gotta empty my shitter! 🤣🤣🤣 If i drank a 12pk I'd overflow that thing...
You literally don't even have room for 2 people to stand next to each other. Why would anyone spend 80k for a cramped van ? I am continually amazed at the things that people will buy.
It would be really nice if they would look at their Cabinetry and look at Thor. Like there's so much nice about that van and yet they make the cabinet tree to look really chintzy and cheap-looking. It looks like pressboard with the cheapest laminate they could find. If they solve that problem they have a real winner
It works perfectly fine… I’m a big guy and I can close the door while sitting on the toilet… he just plays it up like a big issue because he doesn’t like class b vans
@@lifeaftereverything4986 yeah I dont know how people buy a home on wheels and say we’ll use restaurant restrooms. I personally can go anywhere but if your love ones might be a little picky.
LIKE THE RED COLOR THE FOUR SEATER THE 59 PX DON’T LIKE THE COOKTOP IT NEEDS THREE BURNERS NO PORCELAIN TOILET 🚽 I LIKE THE OTHER COACHMEN A LOT BETTER
I really dislike the bathroom and the interior height so cool as it is its a no go for me. Now if it had the regular rear bath It might have been better, because I Love that sleeping space on the roof. So make it a foot higher inside, add a rear bath get rid of the propane stove but keep the space for the E-bike and you have a Perfect b van for Me.
Why are RV manufacturers still putting generators in Class B’s? Makes no sense with all of the battery/solar options available for little additional cost!
That’s insane that you have to have the back door open to have city water. I would never buy a Winnebago simply because of that feature. Put the hook ups outside the van.
Ouch! Might have been tired from the R V show ? Thought she did great. My concern was when they drove with the door (s) open in a family van.Should not start or at least a warning light, alarm .....🚒
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Matt, please talk your guys. First company to add a pop up (that pops up on both sides equally) above the loft areas will make big money 💯😊.
Microwave?
Couple comments as i was very close to buying this model. 1. The tow rating that winnebago states at 3500# is a bit odd when this is a 1 ton with a tow capacity of 6700. So even taking into account the payload, i dont think they have 3k pounds in the back of the van. 2. That price is just crazy! These vans were going for under 100k just last year. I am still seing new ones for right at 100k. One thing that is going to hit this year will need to be price reductions. The pandemic pushed rv prices to just be too outragious.
The towing capacity is limited by the GCVWR of 12K lbs. With 2650 lbs between the GVWR and GCVWR I suspect their max tow rating is based on a very high dry weight which also means a very low cargo capacity.
@@oldengineer1519 the CCC is about 1800lbs which is very good for a camper van
Prices are mostly higher as it’s a new chassis with great safety features. Plus the newer version is on a newer chassis yet which has a new front clip.
B vans are still popular, so no big downward adjustment.
@@JohnSeitz - major downward adjustments are already happening and will continue the downward trend.
@@Patrick_Ross not really… not on B vans. C and travel trails sure. And b vans have come down but not huge amounts. The van I bought a year ago is about 2k less today. Factor in a great loan rate back in 2022 feb and the fun I had. Zero regrets.
That overhead and rear bed is far easier to use than most other Class Bs👍my only concerns are the tiny fridge that is too small for 4 people, and I don’t think anyone wants to have to poop with the door open in front of 3 other people😂
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Thank you for being honest about the towing capacity. You always mention "know before you tow". Good to see you back Becky! Andrea is the bomb, but Becky is keepin' it real.
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Straight dropped her weight like it ain’t no thang! Love it!
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Glad to see you back ,Mat !!!!!! GODSPEED !!!!!!
Hi Matt and Becky B. It’s always good to see Becky! This is nice. There is no micro wave in this. Unless there’s is one I didn’t see. I love that they made the pop top a little bigger. The bathroom seems tight a little bit. And I would trip like Andrea from the steps on the floor. I love the camera and love the fact it sleeps 4 people. And love the outdoor shower. Thank you Matt and Becky B.
Thanks so much Sherri! You make very valid points! ❤
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I’m glad to have helped.
Always fun to see Becky "B" !! Not bad for a Class B. I like the storage, with the magnets and strap.
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*Matt is the BEST !!!!* I "cracked-up", LAUGHING when Becky said "when you need to get away from people"" ... LOL ANYONE that has worked in Retail, or customer service, or with the general public, KNOWS what Becky was meaning !!!! LOLOL 🤣🤣😂
I love when we get to the inside part because thats when becky takes those sunglasses off.
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Great video! Thank you, Becky
Hey Matt I love your class B videos with Becky very entertaining.💪😇😎👿
Love the energy of this dude.
Hey Matt...Chevrolet has had the rear mirror camera since at least 2018 on certain models. It's great to see other manufacturers adding it to their vehicles too!
I have a camper van self build and would like to add a rear view mirror camera. Can you share the one in this van or another model you recommend? Thanks
Thanks ! Love the color of the van love the ram and the pop up top.
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Thank you Matt... I was literally just thinking, I wonder if I can use Liquified in a cassette toilet and you were on it. And, another great tour by Becky B...👍
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Me too! 👍
We bought a 2023 59PX last fall and like it very much. One thing to be aware of is that Ram built the base chassis with numerous “chassis deviations”. Due to parts shortages some of the standard features may or may not have been installed. For example ours has chassis deviation G with the following missing standard features:
7” Display only - no 10” Touch Screen, No Navigation, No Auto High beam, Analog Dash Cluster, No wireless charging, No Passive Entry & No Rearview Parksense. A meager credit of $725 was provided for the missing items. Ours did come with adaptive cruise and deluxe leather seats but some did not. In fact the vehicle reviewed by Matt had cloth seats and did not have the 10” touch screen.
The worst part for many of us is that these deviations were not always properly disclosed and explained by Winnebago dealers.
Still a nice vehicle but be sure to find a unit without missing standard features. For more info go to the Winnebago Solis Owners and Wannabees Facebook page where this issue is fully discussed.
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Really nice! I agree I do not like the wet bath’s either.
Love the screen! Wish thehobs were up and down instead of wide. A better way to use counter space. Is there a cover for the sink? More counter space. Great presentation!
Becky is tall and beautiful. Great job Matt and Becky
My dislikes are same. I'd be tripping on that floor like crazy! Also, not a fan of the bathroom. It looks REALLY awkward. The outdoor shower with the rail is awesome, so I'd primarily use that. But during cold temps (AKA Utah winters), I'd have a hard time using the wet bath. It'd be for SOS moments ONLY... I love the Murphy bed, the kitchen/counter space (but I'd rather have the induction), the garage area. And that pop up top tent is actually pretty large! IF someone was staying in that, the bathroom would be used as additional closet space. AND I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE, LOVE, the short front for easy parking for those of that struggle!
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Love the color! Great B van.
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Love the x in the px. That extra storage is incredible.
Didn't notice a propane quick connect, that should be essential.
The toilet is a non factor for me. Number 1 is all we allow for my family in our rv's. Everything else is outhouse or bathroom.
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That’s great for campgrounds but unworkable for boondocking.
Matt, you said at minute 5:30 that the genny is propane. I'd thought it was gasoline from the gas tank. Could you please confirm one way or the other? Thanks!
HOLY F-ING $hit!! That’s almost as much as my house, which will APPRECIATE over time!
Mobile homes really don't appreciate too much.
@@JohnDoe-xm9ql they don't appreciate at all.
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Hahaha
I know.
Who said it would? It’s a lifestyle choice. Apparently you prefer poorly made travel trailers or a C rig. It’s your choice. For me B van all the way.
Apples and oranges.
Matt, would you discuss the fees for General? Like delivery, inspection, ( upwards of $3,500). Also warranty, service and gap insurance that is sold by the f&i staff. End price can be $10,000 more!
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They should have quality control inspections before leaving the factory. Not a confidence builder for potential buyers.
ram is a rebranded Fiat Ducato from italy, the cost is around 50k in RV van converted models and 25k in truck van version, i think RVs costs less in italy and Europe in general, houses too... any advantage in living in USA?
The chassis (house) battery boosts the starter battery.
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I love it! Winnebago is fantastic. My grandparents always had the brand. Love the Ram chassis.
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I’ve seen vans that size that have better lay outs that use space much better and are more aesthetically pleasing. For 150k I would expect more.
Which ones? This is about the best layout on the market.
@@lifeaftereverything4986 Winnebago Era.
It's really all relative.
Thank you for your videos if not, I would’ve never found a van
Live in CA sales are slow and parking lot is full even with big discounts 30% offs.
Is it 4 seasonal?
The water lines and tanks are inside the coach. As long as you keep the coach warm, you can use this all seasons!
Cool!
You called her "Will!" 🤣
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Looks great, can you review the fleetwood fortis 36Y
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Hey Matt! Are you guys coming to FMCA / RV show in Perry GA in March?
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i learned something new in this video. The suspension improvements--didn't catch those. the price is still too high. seen the px for much less, but this is one of the most well-done b vans out there. wish it was diesel and/or plug-in hybrid...but 19 mpg isn't bad at all.
Matt you are the man !!!!
Very nice! 👍🤘Thank you! Thank you!🔶️🔸️🤍🧡🧡🤎🧡🧡🤍🔸️🔶️
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Oh Becky B!!!
$153 no microwave and no tv. Not even a prime pooping. I did like the way the pop top comes up. The mirror seemed a little distracting. Nice air conditioner.. I have a scope 18a same set up. Wish I had that easier poptop but still luv my van.
Does this van come with a gas engine and a bigger bathroom with a separate shower located in the back without all the not needed bedding? Convert the front seats into eating and sleeping. Thank God this one doesn't have a stupid closet stopping the driver seat from turning all the way around.
I still like it, (Dislikes notwithstanding) but I don't recall seeing a fridge. Did I miss something?
You can call it a Sinky Slinky
You beat me too it. :)
Did you mean to say “stinky slinky”?!
Does this floor plan come without the roof tent?
Yes, the Solis 59p and 59px can be ordered with a pop top delete so you can have a regular roof van instead
A year or two ago, deleting the pop top was a $7000 savings.
Wow - there are a lot of moving parts in this tight space unit-I think you would have to step outside to change your mind.
Anybody else feel claustrophobic looking at the pop-top sleeper?
Good video Matt and Becky!!
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I really love this van, but can i get it with an awning instead of pop top!? 👍👍👍Also lower price...😮
6:39 "Why r u not skipping?" she said. That was funny......
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I looked at the 59 PX at General RV in Ocala, Florida. All the cabinet doors were laying haphazardly on the floor. They actually showed it to me this way without attempting to move them out of the way. They use high pressure sales tactics. When I got up to leave the salesman said “wait just a couple of minutes while I talk to my manager” etc…manager comes over and they both try to get me to leave a deposit. Got home and started reading their reviews online. Holy $hit!! Can’t think of anything good to say about this dealer except stay far away.
Its Matt's B class wife ! 😀
That’s actually very funny! 😅😂
What happened to the cap for the cassette toilet? Love the color of the camper van.
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Love the Pop top!
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This is my favorite one thank you
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Can that hitch be used for a n electric bike rack? Electric bikes are 80 pounds each.
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Bro for real the Solis is the best layout hands down I based my van build off of it. The layout allows the most functional space for a family who goes out on the weekend it allows you the space to move around I could say way more about why this layout is the best use of space hands down. I was going to buy the Solis but decided building would be a better option for me given my skillset
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I want that mirror in my 2016 Promaster to watch my bikes on the rear rack.
Amazon sells them for a couple hundo.
First time seeing you in a while. I kinda fell off the RV train for a few months. How did you get so tan? lol
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what was the price?
The bath would become storage
Review of broken van table
Man Becky is so attractive! Phew.
Too small. I don't understand why they are charging over $150,000 for a van. There are bigger ones that are the same price.
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How much?
Try emptying that cassette at 2:00am when your lit. You know its going to happen. Some old guy drunk off his butt staggering all over the place pulling his cassette all over the campgrounds looking for the public toilet at 2:00am, knkocking on people's RV, "hey can you tell me where the bathroom is...the light came on & I gotta empty my shitter! 🤣🤣🤣 If i drank a 12pk I'd overflow that thing...
Does Brooklyn Bedding make mattresses for both of the beds in it.
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HOW MUCH?
Never seen it popped up that doesn’t mold with years
Class Bs. Matt’s favorites 😂
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You literally don't even have room for 2 people to stand next to each other.
Why would anyone spend 80k for a cramped van ? I am continually amazed at the things that people will buy.
How does a Wet Bath work?
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Hello Becky! I met you at Ocala. Hi Matt!
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Anyone else get Ghost Buster containment unit from the toilet cassette ?
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Price?
Can't believe how many corners Winnebago cut on this van. Should be around $95k.
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With the current glut of class B’s, you should easily be able to negotiate the price down to 95k or even lower.
It would be really nice if they would look at their Cabinetry and look at Thor. Like there's so much nice about that van and yet they make the cabinet tree to look really chintzy and cheap-looking.
It looks like pressboard with the cheapest laminate they could find.
If they solve that problem they have a real winner
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The bathroom is a must, if you put one in a vehicle make it work
It works perfectly fine… I’m a big guy and I can close the door while sitting on the toilet… he just plays it up like a big issue because he doesn’t like class b vans
@@lifeaftereverything4986 yeah I dont know how people buy a home on wheels and say we’ll use restaurant restrooms. I personally can go anywhere but if your love ones might be a little picky.
LIKE THE RED COLOR THE FOUR SEATER THE 59 PX DON’T LIKE THE COOKTOP IT NEEDS THREE BURNERS NO PORCELAIN TOILET 🚽 I LIKE THE OTHER COACHMEN A LOT BETTER
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lol! 'how come you're not skipping'!
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So there is no heat or ac in pop top, not too comfortable. Should have ducts opening into pop top.
Make one with AWD.
No TV?
No awning…..seems like a deal breaker.
The front table and the 2 seats could be convert it into a bed but they don't do it it's a shame🍁🍁🍁🍁🍁🍁🍁
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I really dislike the bathroom and the interior height so cool as it is its a no go for me. Now if it had the regular rear bath It might have been better, because I Love that sleeping space on the roof. So make it a foot higher inside, add a rear bath get rid of the propane stove but keep the space for the E-bike and you have a Perfect b van for Me.
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Why are RV manufacturers still putting generators in Class B’s? Makes no sense with all of the battery/solar options available for little additional cost!
Interesting van! But not a fan of cassette toilets...
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I know it seats and sleeps 4, but I can't imagine camping with 4 people in that small of space.
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Not a "stinky slinky," but a "sinky slinky."
A little to small for me.
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Could you get one without the extra rooftop bunker and two passengers chairs to have larger bathroom. I'm definitely interested Becky. Contact me.
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Probably not the bigger bathroom. But you need to contact her. She probably won't read this.
Can u show the back..
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Winnebago fix that bathroom.....also the propane only last three days in the winter
That rear camera looks very distracting.
We need more class B+ but man do they over price it for gas cars.
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That’s insane that you have to have the back door open to have city water. I would never buy a Winnebago simply because of that feature. Put the hook ups outside the van.
This is a Fiat Ducato in England and Europe
Why does Becky B sound drunk?
Ouch! Might have been tired from the R V show ? Thought she did great. My concern was when they drove with the door (s) open in a family van.Should not start or at least a warning light, alarm .....🚒