Doing the Right Thing | Gianluca Grimalda
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2024
- What would you lose to take a stand?
Gianluca Grimalda, a climate change researcher, lost his job after he refused to fly back from fieldwork in Papua New Guinea. Gianluca has been “slow travelling” for decades. He thinks his former employer tried to make an example out of him because of his climate activism. It’s one of those stories that reveals the madness of the world-he was sent to research how vulnerable communities are responding to climate change as the seas consume their villages, and then told he could no longer continue that research if he did not commit an act of harm.
He joins me to share the preliminary results of his fieldwork and tell this incredible story: his activism, the threats of dismissal, the ongoing fight with the institute, and the incredible journey from Bougainville to Germany by ferry, train and coach. This is a tale that reminds us that some things are less complicated than we are led to believe-and that we cannot rely on our institutions for moral clarity.
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Hopefully this man is a trend setter.
I have so much gratitude for the spirit of this humble man. The collective is going through a great death and the global oligarchs are not outside the reality.
What a guy. I am in awe. Thank you for this interview Rachel. Please pass on my admiration to Gianluca. I am humbled by his humility and strength of character.
Restored my faith in the fundamental goodness of truly civilized humans... Thank you both very much.
David F. Noble, former History professor of M.I.t., refused to even use email!! I highly recommend his books. Thanks for this interview.
Can you identify the book you recommend - there seems to be several - thanks
@@edmcewan Start with "The Religion of Technology" (1996) and then his final book is a follow up to that one, "Beyond the Promised Land" - all his other books are great reads also.
That,'s being consistent. Walk the talk. Thanks, Gian and Rachel for pursuing "truth" and working torwards the best possible future
At 8:40, it is interesting to hear him, a European, say that a lot of people believe climate change is a natural effect. I was under the impression that misinformation was specifically an American phenomenon.
Europe is losing population, due to a lot of old people and there are a lot of people in AU and NZ, Canada that would believe the same.
Sadly, it's not a unique American issue. It became worse when Trump came into power, and his "war on fake news" (news he disagrees with) had a knock-on effect throughout Western mainstream media and social media
To be accurate, it is the addition of human contribution to the environment that breaks cyclical, climatic rythmns.
Hallelujah!
We are all on our way to becoming Homo Luminesque ♥️
I'm pretty sure I was rejected from a job because I suggested a ground travel route (passenger train) would be convenient between satellite office and headquarters.
From La Zanzara to Planet Critical, I applaud your jump to a much higher quality platform :)
You are right ahaha....
Einsteinian E=mC², and Bose-Einsteinian logarithmic condensation modulation superposition-quantization holography is "all we know, and all we need to know" of temporal thermodynamical real-time.
All the rest is Commentary.
The gambling effect seems expected to me, since I've known about it from the discoveries B.F. Skinner made in behavioral 'psychology'. There's various schedules of reinforcement that have been discovered, and gambling is a variable type schedule of reinforcement, and it has been found to be objectively the 'strongest' among many organisms, not just humans. "Strongest" in the sense that it generates the most behavior, for the least amount of reward. I don't think words like "rational" , "fatalistic" or "optimistic" are very useful concepts or very real (as in they don't map very well what's going in in reality, if at all) , and people's lack of understanding behavioral principles and using these concepts instead, is what makes them confused as to why people act a certain way, and thinking there's some kind of contradiction.
Also that's not to say that variable schedule reinforcement is 'bad'. Nothing is good or bad in itself. The same schedule of reinforcement occurs not only in casinos, raffles etc. or in other places where it's used to exploit people, but it also occurs in science, and/or when you learn to enjoy something long term. Initially you get consistently reinforced, and the over time, the more you go through already discovered knowledge and start moving into the realm of researching and making discoveries yourself or basically being at the frontier of what is known , then what you'll discover and when, becomes more and more inconsistent (it's not as secure and consistent as just reading/repeating already known things), so you get reinforced more and more irregularly, with longer and longer periods of time without getting 'anything' , but you keep going anyway for years and decades. And over time it becomes from learning something new (from your perspective) every day, to eventually just working on something that you'll see the results for in 40 years. It's a very useful schedule of reinforcement if done for the 'right' things.
The average human is an expert at not defending her/his own dignity. That's how dictatorships can emerge. That's how capitalism can survive while destroying the stability of the ecosphere.
Germany is like Japanese society very "group-oriented". If you show your head out of the queue ...you are just out of the queue. The structure matters more than the components.
sure - the cooperatives of Japan led to Fascism also.
Is there any system that isn't like that?
1 millisecond. 5 tons of carbon by China. yes the absurdity of symbolic action is rich indeed.
Actually 0.0027 tons per millisecond but that still doesn't make 35 million tons a day any better.
When the enlightenment period happened in France and England, which brought an end to slavery in the 1800's, it was the bourgeois, basically you and me and us, these days, that pushed for change, even made system changes to their own lives. This wasn't symbolic in any other way than how they thought they should be an example, sure it's rich people who can afford these changes the most but why not them if they have more than enough and if you want less carbon produced from China then the act of buying less stuff might be symbolic in that it won't change much but at least you would be living by the philosophy you believe in.
I was fired for showing the Al Gore film in 2008 to my rural AZ elementary students.
If your boat is delayed 7 weeks and you have to stay somewhere that time adding more pressure to local conditions and your employer is expecting you back and if you don't get on a plane and be back within 3 days they have decided you are fired is fair if you have been doing slow travelling 13 years.
I can see that my Institute had a point but let me clarify that it wasn't my boat, but my fieldwork that got delayed 7 weeks because of armed robberies, evacuation of some areas due to volcanic activities, villages that weren't ready and stuff like that. It's the kind of stuff that normally you'd get an automatic extension of your stay.
@@gianlucagrimalda170 Ah, and would you still be getting paid during this? If yes or no, how are they supposed to plan anything for you to be useful to them if you aren't, by choice, available?
I appreciate the thought process and admire the resolve but it could also be seen as being inflexible to their needs, especially after so long of doing it and can only hope it leads you to a better place. Enjoy.
@@antonyjh1234 Of course during these delays I wouldn't stay at the beach. I would go around looking for villages to replace those that are no longer available. In some cases you have to go village leaders 3 or 4 times to explain the research in areas that are difficult to access. For one village I crossed a river 6 times to persuade them, and in the end I couldn't run research there because of volcano-related evacuation. Let me add that I offered the Institute to go an unpaid leave for all the return journey but they simply didn't accept my offer without giving any explanation.
Moreover, I hardly ever work at office. My work can easily be carried out remotely. My head of department repeatedly told me that I could work from anywhere in the world. The important thing is to get the statistics done and write papers and I can do that on a train, on a ship, anywhere. I don't do any teaching and our meetings are normally held online.
@@gianlucagrimalda170 Under no circumstances should it be "simply accepting" of what you "want" to do.
Under no circumstances is you crossing a river multiple times and trying to find somewhere to stay, in places that are finding it hard to have accommodation because of these delays/evacuations etc the right thing for you to stay, crowding out other people, just because you have money., to do research.
Under no circumstances does an employer after 13 years of this have to give any explanation if you can't see how you are affecting them.
I read an explanation of narcissism as concerning ourselves with how others affect us, instead of concerning ourselves with how we affect others.
I think you were wrong to let this be the hill you wanted to die on when you could have bent just a little, especially as they have been so understanding, you didn't want an explanation from them, you wanted to be right and them wrong, personally I don't see how they were, if you had an employee that rang in and said I'm coming back in sometime during the next 2 months, maybe 3, but now you are upset I'll take it as unpaid leave. Doesn't help you as an employer because they are still on the books. Then you still have people working for you behind the scenes in payroll, while you get to choose what you want without any regards to their plans. It is rude on your part in my opinion, expecting your philosophy, your world view to be just accepted in all circumstances, especially one that might have caused more pressure where you stayed and of course more emissions and all this over just one flight or maybe 2 tons of overall carbon?
My strategy is to not get emotional over those who will miss the bus so to speak. I focus on positioning myself in a surviving position and what happens to other people is up to them. What i am concerned about is the emotional crowd rioting when reality hits, and so hard that that essential technologies needed for survival are destroyed. I would rather have them throw their fit elsewere then where the new powers will be born from. I would like for people to realize that we are inside the titanic and can only use the elevators once, requiring choosing who gets to survive and do it with a rational head. The essential tech of the fiture will be largely a dtad of nuclear and biotechnolgies because they eother have tremdenous energy that can cleanup any mess they make, while biology is self sustaining and low footprint. In short one small tube of biotechnolgical material can turn into tonnes for nothing when doing the same with industrial materials that need to be torn up out of the ground is striking.
Basic income? That's just money printing. It won't work.
He's a social scientist so with an anthropocentric focus. Sounds like he might be a little late to the game on radical ecology undermining civilization - while civilization accelerates into "biological annihilation." If he wants to reform society by taxing the rich - well Eisenhower had a 91% marginal tax rate on the wealthy but it was to build up military spending for the U.S. Empire. people compare global warming to needing a massive spending but civilization only does massive tax spending if it's for military spending like fascism. Should be interesting.
@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 There is nothing we can do about GW, physics tells us that. Well, nothing other than shut down the economy.
@@Withnail1969 actually oil and coal are from algae and algae is 50% of photosynthesis on Earth. Thermodynamics of global warming is from photon radiation. Sir David King is correct that deep ocean volcanic fertilization along with passive wave pumps can sequester 30 gigatons per year. Double Ph.D. marine biologist Raffael Jovine is correct that 10 gigatons can be sequestered by near-ocean algae farms. Algae as seaweed already can neutralize methane from ungulates - being sold out of Australia. Quantum biology is more foundational than physics.
Have you seen the US national debt? Printing money works till it doesn't. We give trillions to corporations, basic income is just giving it to individuals. I'm not saying it will work, but it does kind of depend on how it is done. If we eliminate the heavy bureaucracies and just shift the money to basic income it would not cost any more. If we eliminate military spending we can all be rich.
When people use the term money printing then I know they don't understand money, where it comes from, how much it costs. Every single dollar in the economy has been "printed" based on debt that you don't have a choice where it goes or how much there is.
It wouldn't matter what we did as jobs, as long as it flows, we could point that energy in any direction we wanted, or get rid of it completely, give everybody free food (at a basic level), free shelter and medical care, stop working, let everybody have a carbon balance they can spend and we would raise the wellbeing across the globe.