Rookie WR Expectations + Trade Respect | Fantasy Football 2024 - Ep. 1592
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
- Which rookie WR is the best value in 2024 fantasy football drafts? On today’s podcast, Andy, Mike, and Jason pick their favorite rookies to target and tons more! How long should managers have to reply to a trade? When should you draft with your gut over rankings? Tank Dell, Jalen Hurts, Marvin Harrison, and many other players discussed! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for July 6th, 2024.
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(00:00) - Intro
(03:30) - Giants on Hard Knocks
(08:55) - Rookie WR Expectations
(19:55) - Mailbag!
(21:35) - Full PPR, 3WR
(24:35) - Dynasty: Kyler Murray or Justin Herbert
(26:15) - Trade Tank Dell?
(29:55) - Gut Feelings
(32:15) - Waiting For a Trade Response
(38:30) - New Kickoff Rules
(44:35) - Jalen Hurts without Jason Kelce
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That moment at the end of this video needs to go into the top moments of this year's show. Long monologue by Andy followed by a grunting "yeah" by Mike, and finished with hilarious dialogue about Jergens lotion. 😂😂 I laugh harder each time I watch it.
First Saturday episode of the 24 season. Love to see it!
They had a Saturday episode June 1, UDK release day.
@EricCharlesGraham you're right. I forgot!
The whole train track trade situation makes me think of Peanuts. Jason is Lucy with the football, just silently holding the ball for Charlie Brown, looking expectantly at him. Saying with her eyes, “Yes, I have hurt you before, but look: here is the ball. Do what feels right.”
You need at least two bald guys to run a good show
3 a week! Then 5... then its go time!!!
Who's the Liam Neeson Impersonator? That's pretty spot on. Getting the growl is easy, but getting the sound of his clear voice behind it too is downright art.
Actually watched that movie last night. Lol
@@MrEasybreezey Jason does all the voices but Mike uses a tool to make the voice sound like the targeted actor. They also do Gandalf, Tom Cruise, and Optimus Prime and they are all pretty good.
@@ronway7280 That's what I thought. I knew I'd heard them talk about it in some past episode, but couldn't recall the details.
I like how this episode is about rookie WR expectations and you guys talked about it for about 9 minutes
It was the quick question sooo... It's expected to be quick. 🤣💩
@@YourFavGinger206 the title doesn’t say quick question. it says rookie expectations as if they were gunna talk about rookie wideouts and the ballers expectations…click bait comes from all nowadays.
They usually do this if its a mailbag episode, they arent going to put everything in the title lol
@@brvzi9093go listen to the dynasty podcast for more in depth analysis on rookies. Or past episodes.
It was only part of the title too. Besides none of their titles are ever all of the episodes content.
Click bait would be them mentioning it and then saying two words on it. You got 9 minutes. How much do you want on seven rookies?
@ronway7280 . Exactly 💯. Haven't seen an NFL snap, and they have been talking about them for the last month, but, let's spend most of an episode talking about them again...lol. I don't think so. Covered until Camp starts.
Saturday show!!! We're almost there fellas!!!
My brother has a train horn on his truck and he scares the bejesus out of people with it all over town. It’s pretty funny.
Thank You Andy, Jason and Mike!
When you forget this is coming out on Saturday.... The best!
That was me checking my youtube notifs lol
No… McConky is not good… like everyone says he’s this amazing route runner, but he just looks good not great from what I watched… and he had the advantage of teams bracketing Bowers (the focus of that pass game)
We know (and this was part of his draft analysis) he didn’t win a lot of 50/50 balls, had major issues with press coverage and he’s injury prone…
Palmer has even said he expected to take the leadership role… I’ll take him in the 11th over McConky, a so so rookie…
I drafted Antonio Brown in the 15th round in a league that got return yards (and Gronk in the 8th where everyone laughed b/c they didn't know who he was). I won the league, bought an AB jersey to wear at the next draft and it was a keeper league so I got to keep AB and Gronk at those picks for 2 more years.
Jason needs a "drive that bus" shirt
I just listened to that 2 dollar bill story from Jason on the spitballers pod!! Love both of these shows
I believe it's more than likely, by mid-season at the latest, that most HCs will choose to kick the ball through the endzone rather than drop it into the hands of the likes of Tyreek or Deebo. Take the 10 yards difference, trust your D rather than risk getting burned on a kickoff. Just my take.
Saturday!!!
The slow pan at 34:00 is nice... ya ya, the analysis is good too
Would you rather have...
PPR Dynasty Superflex
Anthony Richardson and Marvin Harrison
Or
Jayden Daniel's and Jamar Chase
Richardson and Harrison ALL day
I love Andy's confidence in MHJ
I've been waiting for the Kick returns... to return. Our league gives 1 point per 25 return yards.For example last season Xavier Gibson would have gotten roughly 2 extra fantasy points per game from 830 return yards. We expect much more return yards this season. Maybe some guys get back to the 1500-2000 yard range. What will that look like? A 2000 yard season would net the player around 5 extra fantasy ppg. Most returners who go over 1500 yards are specialist, even defensive backs. Guys like Amendola, Dante Hall, Cribbs would get around 1500 per season (+3.75 fppg). I put this scoring system in place years ago to give our league more players to draft and to spice up the waiver wire. It is time tested. Goes back to the days of Jacoby " The Silver Bullet Ford" Ford!
QBs: Burrow, Jayden Daniels
RBs: Breece, Zamir, McLaughlin, M lloyd
WR: chase, g wilson, jamo, shaheed, burton
TE; muthtith, sanders Parkinson
I only have 2 picks next draft (both 2nd rounders) then I have Two firsts in 2026, and a full draft. Will my team compete this year or am I still a few seasons away?
with that title i would have thought the episode was about rookie wideouts and their expectations.
Ballers keeping my UA-cam running „non stop“ since 2019, can’t believe how much I missed still
Kyler is an average real life qb and top 12 fantasy qb
Participated in a league back in 2011 that counted return yards. Darren Sproles got me 567 points that season. Also had Antonio Brown with 448 points.
Can’t wait for Andy’s opener to be followed by “it’s football time!”
Yall talking about the mocks but we just saw the bots last mock do shit no one would do like go Amon rah into Laporta at 20th overall
Barkley and the Eagles chatter was well said, great stuff today guys.
Marvin Harrison reminds me of Bijan Robinson last year. Being drafted in the first round as a "can't miss" rookie. I want a discount if I pick a rookie and Harrison is being drafted at or near his ceiling.
At least marv doesnt have arthur lol
@@Ryanh1010 Arthur Smith gets overly blamed. Bijan got 300 opportunities last year, yet everyone acts as though all he did was ride the bench. The issue is that everyone assumed he'd be getting 25+ touches every week, which is unrealistic, especially after the rookie year Tyler Algeier had.
I love it here
A Micheal Scott intro would be funny and 🔥🔥🔥.
Can we get a 3wr ppr draft please. 2rb 1 flex
I’m ready for the season😂these questions and conversations are getting repetitive
Just hanging on sat cool 😎
My newest Nasty Boy - Bub Means, New Orleans
Let’s goooo!!!!
Bald Guy didn’t go to The Fox Hole with the rest of the Ducers, he’d rather score brownie points. Plus, it was his turn to buy the next round of Vegas Bombs.
23:23 actually we do considering most drafts have new people. In a way you already do this with mayhem drafts.
Colin Cowherd has proven time and time again that if Skip Bayless wasn't on the payroll, Colin would be considered the king of bad takes. I still remember when he said Drew Lock would be MVP in his 2nd year. 🤡
Long time listener first time commenter.
I haven’t felt this scared to live in Wilmington, NC in a minute. Gotta lock my doors at night again…
We need a shoe cam for Mike. Those are some spicy lemmon pepper steppers lol.
I think we should talk up jahan.
During the offseason you can’t be mad at your league mates for not being 100% engaged
Tank dell segment invented Fantasy Foodballers
oh and TD is the initials for the player and the dog...
You guys know I love the show but saying you'll talk about rookie WR expectations and then not mentioning Xavier Worthy, Addonai Mitchell, Ricky Pearsall or Roman Wilson.
Disappointing....
Sats are phat!
'We always get it right'
*Cries for 2-time My Guy Kerryon Johnson*
Kavonte Turpin will break the league with the new kickoff
How should I feel since I have the Arizona qb wr1 TE and Rb 1 ? I have the quad stack
Brook's will be a top 6 rb drafted in fantasy next offseason
10:54 the difference is Coleman was a reach for buffalo at pick 33 because they were desperate. Harrison is a much bettter player.
Sleeper has default scoring for Special Teams Touchdowns
Why get rid of the kicker, just to add another flex? Why not have both? The more the merrier Andy
Andy chose violence and hates all things Ladd lol
As a Bills fan, why doesn't anyone believe in shakir? Go watch our last 3 or 4 games of our season and I thought he was clearly wr1 even over diggs! What am I missing?
Once they have a certain take about people they RARELY change it they love the guys they love n thats all
Lmao
That you think he jumped 2-3 spots over diggs t mo be a number 1😂
@@jacobvogt80 I'm saying he was buffalo's wr1 the last month of the season and it was pretty obvious. Not saying he was a fantasy wr1
Ive seen plenty of podcasts list shakir as a sleeper
The last guy takes one July mock & is ready to draft like nothing changes before September
U know he’s autopic
@28:40 its the episode of Home Improvement where Al has to guess what kind of lumber it is by sniffing it blindfolded. Can this be a water bet?
I traded Garrett Wilson, Tank Dell and a 2026 1st… Did I win?? I’m champ atm so in win now mode
I mean, a little eye liner, and Papa Josh can be Christian Daughtry.
Literally anything would be better than the CPU picking on sleeper mock drafts. Super unrealistic in 1QB leagues u got mahomes and Josh Allen going mid 2nd - mid 3rd
Dynasty 1qb amon ra cousins and 2.03 or mahomes laporta 2025 late first , 2.01, 3.09
Are we finally going to get a new episode of 'Jason Eats'????
Second!
My league is terrible with trades lol they literally just let them sit! I usually try to set a deadline too lol
Currently trying to trade for Curtis Samuel in my league. What's the price!!!
SaturnDay!!!
Turkey burgers are delicious with the correct seasoning 🍔
Sometimes you have to over season just a little bit
Stop it
C's get degrees.
Would yall rather have DK Metcalf or Malik Nabers in dynasty
Malik unless you’re win now but don’t have a reliable wr2
apparently my dynasty is more of a mike team
I love how they said can’t have a Duecer bc they don’t know how to draft lol. Jason and Andy provide great content but they shh their pants every draft. My goodness, I wish my league drafted like them.
$2 bills are not rare like everyone thinks. Since their invention their have only been a few years where they didn't print more
Turkey dogs are good
Trading Tank Dell is like a Black Bean burger. Where 100% of ground chick burgers are delicious, 90% of black bean burgers are terrible, not terrible for a burger, terrible, like 6% are good but not as good as chuck and like 4% are better than any chuck burgers you can get (hint: blackened seasoning on any kind of burger always works). Anyway I trade Aiden O'Connell and Tank Dell in a dynasty league and before you call that extraordinarily stupid with both players, it was for Jordan Love
Also if the Tush Push still works he has to be Cam Jergens ultra healing the Phillies Offensive Line
The Eagles, oh my God my brain baseballed
Cardinals fans talking down on the giants 😂😂😂😂😭 comical
Yes make him wear wigs for the show
That guy is Dan LeBetard.
That's me
That guy sounds like a scar expert. I watch on UA-cam.
LFG!!
We need one... Just one mock auction. Needs at least 6 of you to get real bids though.
No Brennan Rice love???
Turkey taco meat is absolutely a great replacement. People do not notice if you don't tell them. I like to go half and half myself to balance health and the slight better flavor that the beef fat provides.
Right
I would like to be friends with Brian from San Diego.
Ladd season
Ahh yes, its the Giants front office. Let's not compare them to the likes of teams like..........the Cardinals.
That Herbert painting is sweet
Oh no Mike is one of those people who believes 2$ bills are worth more than 2$
A quick Google search would tell you plenty of 2 dollar bill variations can be worth a ton. Soooooo......
@@patrickmel8728 the variations… not every 2$ bill, most are worth only 2$. Some 1$ bills are worth a lot but most are worth 1$
Marvin Harrison is being completely overdrafted. Definitely a bust at current ADP. Nabbers is the one you want for sure.
What you’re saying is if you were staring down MHJ or Nabers you would grab Nabers first? Brother please
@@jjohnson218 Have in Dynasty. But no that’s not what I’m saying…I’m grabbing Garrett Wilson,Drake London, Nico Collin’s, Brandon Aiyuk,Devonta Smith,Jaylen Waddle, Chris Olave all over Marvin Harrison and Nabbers but yes I’d also grab Nabbers if they were back to back. Opportunity cost is a big thing. Drafting Marvin Harrison Jr at his ceiling scenario (a top 12 guy)in his rookie year is bad process.
Marvin Harrison Jr is an insanely talented prospect. I like him better than Ja'Marr Chase and he killed it his rookie year. I could see 90 receptions 1,600 yards 12 TDs in his outcome.
@@thedarkknight9153 I do not see that as possible in that offense in a rookie year. Hate to say it but it’s true. College prospects just need to adjust to the NFl unless they have an absolutely incredible offensive minded head coach and things fall into place for them like Puka Nucua had happen. That’s just not realistic as someone who projects and charts this stuff.
Here is the truth of it…Harrison is an incredible prospect but out of the big three from this year he is not as dynamic of a route runner, or as a ball carrier. He has the built up speed to win on routes down the field but his timing routes aren’t as good out of school. Nabbers has him beat in these regards and can fit into any offense. At times in college he miss tracked specific targets and used the wrong attack to win them. In the pro’s that technical lapse can lead between the difference of someone like Garrett Wilson and Someone like Gabe Davis. Now he is much more refined at technique than Gabe Davis is but the point still stands.He will still be awesome, but he is not some perfect prospect the likes of which we’ve never seen. Watch his drops from Ohio State and you’ll start to understand. Could he fix this…absolutely. Is he a bit cocky at his young also absolutely so I could see that taking a few years. His father also had these catch point technique lapses and had an incredible career but never fixed them. It reminds me of Terry Mclauren. In his releases in college he has some wasted movements against press man coverage early on he’s struggle a bit more than people might expect. That said that should be ironed out by mid season. Off Coverage he is immediately going to be on the elite side.
All this to say I love Marv Jr. he just isn’t perfect and buying at the high end in redraft or Best Ball seems like a bad move to me. For his career he should be incredible and I love him in Dynasty.
I can just go to my local bank, give them cash and they'll give me a brand new book full of $2 bills they're still making them
is Jason seriously offering food opinions while admitting he uses pre-mixed taco seasoning? absolutely shameful
Lol these guys are the biggest homers in ff but I still like em, Kyler is not elite until he shows it again.
Voicemail questions are becoming so cringe. Would much rather you guys just read them out. Idk maybe i’m alone here.
9:11 ..... wut???
If there was nothing but hair on the show, I’d be concerned
I feel for Papa Josh, I started losing mine in my early to mid 20s too. I was in the Army and we were allowed to grow out our tops but the sides had to be shaved. I unfortunately could only grow the sides while the top was visually thinning. It sucked.
Anthony Richardson will be a major bust this year. Just how he was last year. Great player, but prone to injury.