Kids now have no idea how big a deal this demo was. The hype for Halo 2 became enormous! I remember flipping out when I saw Master Chief steal a ghost, kicking the elite out of it! 😂 And being able to dual wield was badass too!
We just released Alpha Moon as well! You can find a link to it on the page for Earth City (E3), and it's more of an actual cut mission than the demo ever was, set between the arbiter and delta halo
Are you going to release E3 demo into original xbox as well? yes i know that xbox is basically dead and propably there is no way to officialy release it :/
Halo was a big deal, I remember going to the library to rip the trailer to a CD so I could watch it at my leisure. This is how obsessed people were pre Halo 2 release, happy to say it didn't disappoint.
Seeing this Demo at E3 2003 was epic. When Halo 2 released I went to the midnight launch at my local gamestop which was my first ever time doing that. I stayed up all night playing it and went to work the next day completely exhausted.
The absolute golden era of Halo & just gaming in general. Being born in 1995 it was in the perfect part of my childhood. So lucky I was able to experience them. We knew how good they were but never realized how good we had it at the time. Halo 3 still remains my favorite game of all time, but 1 and 2 are right there.
I wouldn't say the best because online gaming was not great, the support of the games was not great (especially compared to the PC at the same time, which still was bad) ya there were some nice games but HL2 was way more important than HALO. it was 10 times better. PGR moved from 60fps to PGR2 with 30 fps which was very bad too... lots of games moved from 60fps to 30 during that era. finally we get back to a normal framerate but still bad latencys on consoles.
@PrefoX Bro I was 13 years old playing the original Xbox on a CRT with all my buddies. Not a single one of us even knew what frame rates were at the time, the quality of the games & the experiences we had with one another was top tier in my humble opinion.
@@PrefoXBro is acting like frame rates are what made games good or bad. My guy, BF3 on Xbox 360 was classic and it ran at 30 FPS. Halo 3 was 30 FPS. Don’t care. Those games were peak
The recent Halo 2 20th Anniversary LAN in Vegas put on by LVL50 and Chris Puckett was awesome and I recommend checking it out to anyone who used to follow the pro scene. The prize pot was crowd funded by donations and hit $100K while some of the teams were loaded with old pros like team Final Instinct which had Roy, Walshy, Strongside & Lunchbox. Everything was played on OG Xbox's and CRT TV's and all 3 day's were live streamed with live commentary with Puckett, Dudynsky, Alex Mendez, Dan Gaskin and a few others.
5:05 I thought the same thing, I'm glad that you pointed that out John. 😮My current time eyes wanted to run, when I was presented with the look behind the smoke & mirrors, witnessing the true (low) resolution of that city image in 2024. Compared to the time when my teenage self, first saw the original footage. The night and day difference is jarring.
Man MCC is phenomenal. It has Halo 1 through 4, and halo reach. The order you need to play it in for maximum authenticity and best understanding of the intended story is: Halo CE Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST, Halo Reach, and halo 4 isn't a halo game. Halo 5 is even less of a halo game, and halo infinite is hilariously bad with no story and all the cool stuff happened before Halo infinite and was not even explained even after beating it. Screw 343 those people are evil. Same goes for this "Halo studios" rebranding of 343 so the first thing they ever did as Halo studios was to launch a game demo only on PC that Xbox fans have been desperate to play for 21 years now. Not the greatest start. I hate Halo studios
Halo 1 hasn't aged that well so you might find it a bit tedious with its long sections. But H2 and H3 were the pinnacle of the series, so if you don't get on with H2 then that's probably it for you. H4 was just something that felt tacked on that didn't have a soul.
Oh geez, I remember going to the midnight launch. My friend was all about getting it at that event so we all went. I also remember the French version leaking a couple weeks early. I had downloaded that and was playing it early on my modded Xbox and that friend stopped hanging out with us for that little stretch to avoid spoilers.
It'll likely never be on Xbox, unfortunately. The only reason it's on PC is because a group of fans worked on the MCC mod to make it happen. I read an article that had one of the Halo Studios people saying that if it wasn't for Digsite (the Halo fans who made the mod), the demo wouldn't have been remade. Halo Studios didn't care to remake it, and neither did Microsoft. Digsite did all the work. 343i/Halo Studios simply gave them the assets they needed.
I remember it like yesterday.. never queued tho. Bit much. I do remember being v disappointed this wasnt in the game - and nor was the last level! Gotta say though the original Halo trilogy might be some of the most just straight dam fun games ever made.
I'd say Halo has been boned a lot harder than Gears. Gears 4 was Mediocre but 5 is pretty damn good and Tactics was a surprisingly good turn based strategy game
going out at the afternoon to buy a game u really wanted and going back home to play it through the whole freaking night despite knowing u have to go to school next day was the fking best plus back then when u were a kid staying a day or two without any sleep was manageable lol.
It's a neat curio and I'm sure the scripted elements were pretty groundbreaking at the time, but personally I wasn't remotely impressed by this demo in 2003, I mean this was the same E3 that Half Life 2 gave their tech demo presentation which just blows this out of the water imo. Plus all that stuff pretty much ended up in the final game!
You can play the original version if you can get the disk, maybe it's available on torrent also. You'll need an older operating system, or at least play it in a virtual machine OS.
I can not understand how it's not playable on Xbox... How is it not possible for MCC to run yet another Halo 2 engine? I've seen other devs run mods on consoles as dlc and expansions I can't understand how it's not possible to play on Xbox as it's old software and the consoles should be able to run the software effortlessly without mod support. How is this situation even real? It sounds like more 343 laziness to me. And to add insult to injury, 343 clearly still does not care about Halo and it's lifelong day 1 fans who are more responsible than 343 for making Halo the smash hit it once was but they disrespect us by giving steam the one demo we've all been dying to get our hands on for 21 years. That is a level of apathy and disrespect that's hard to understand. They are the worst fucking studio of all time
Man I was so fucking happy to have a steam deck oled when this came out as a console gamer myself. Try and find a way to play it, if you're an OG fan it's gonna blow your mind I've honestly played through it a few times every day since its come out
The engine didn't get ported over. It's running in retail halo 2. As far as the demo itself goes, xbox has no mod support, and i believe we would need xbox devkits to compile and test the map with the xbox specific shaders. The project is done in our free time as volunteer work. 343 supports us and endorses our work but its not up to us whether content makes it onto xbox, we would also like mod support to come to xbox.
Hi DF, You should do a video on EA Madden 25 and College Football 25 for the PS5 Pro-both are top 10 best-selling games in the PS Store. However, both games are locked at 60 FPS on the PS5 Pro, while the Xbox Series X offers 120Hz for both titles. Is this due to a CPU limitation on the PS5 Pro?
As much as I love Bungie's final products, Halo 2, 3, ODST, Reach, and Destiny 1, Bungie is totally made up of bull shit artists. Luckily they had talented people to make up for the bull shit artists there. Halo 1 will always be the best game.
343 and halo studios are such a holes. That demo was running on actual Xbox hardware but they expect us to believe that an Xbox simply can't pull off running this demo so only steam get it lol I'm so mad
Not that they don't think it can pull it off but because they don't want to use actual dev time to add mod support to Xbox. This Digsite stuff is done for free with occasional help from old bungie guys still at 343 or retired
they never said anything about this cant run on xbox lol. its just MCC was never updated to have real modding support on xbox because most of the modding support was done by a third party studio, not 343 themselves
Dude. You're from Cincinnati John? Didn't pick mine up at Northgate Mall. Got mine at GameStop in Eastgate at midnight. Cool to know you grew up in the Nati. As soon as you said Northgate Mall I was like holy shit. He's from Cincinnati.
I will never forgive the Halo devs for faking this trailer. The final game was genuinely pathetic by comparison, and the franchise has been downhill ever since.
You honestly “can’t begin to imagine” what games were like in 2003? How old were you then? 😉 As John puts it this was very impressive FOR ITS TIME. Games of “today” wouldn’t exist otherwise! You just need to put things in context. Btw: never, ever look up the ANCIENT 8bit/16bit consoles, they’ll scar you mentally for life! The 32bit era even, terrifying! Stick to modern games only and you’ll be alright 👍🏻
@@mikeuk666ryan itching for the next df post like a drug addict itching for his next hit. Didnt someone doxx ryans location. Should pay ryan a visit & sort him out.
Kids now have no idea how big a deal this demo was. The hype for Halo 2 became enormous! I remember flipping out when I saw Master Chief steal a ghost, kicking the elite out of it! 😂
And being able to dual wield was badass too!
We just released Alpha Moon as well! You can find a link to it on the page for Earth City (E3), and it's more of an actual cut mission than the demo ever was, set between the arbiter and delta halo
I'm new to steam workshop, hope do I get them to run after subscribing to the content?
@@chrisj320ac3 Boot the game in anticheat disabled-mode and it should appear under Halo 2's campaign menu
Are you going to release E3 demo into original xbox as well? yes i know that xbox is basically dead and propably there is no way to officialy release it :/
you should ask halo studios, we're currently just a volunteer group and aren't actual mcc devs
It’s great hearing the sincere joy in John’s voice when recalling his halo 2 launch memories
Halo was a big deal, I remember going to the library to rip the trailer to a CD so I could watch it at my leisure. This is how obsessed people were pre Halo 2 release, happy to say it didn't disappoint.
Seeing this Demo at E3 2003 was epic. When Halo 2 released I went to the midnight launch at my local gamestop which was my first ever time doing that. I stayed up all night playing it and went to work the next day completely exhausted.
The absolute golden era of Halo & just gaming in general. Being born in 1995 it was in the perfect part of my childhood. So lucky I was able to experience them. We knew how good they were but never realized how good we had it at the time. Halo 3 still remains my favorite game of all time, but 1 and 2 are right there.
I wouldn't say the best because online gaming was not great, the support of the games was not great (especially compared to the PC at the same time, which still was bad) ya there were some nice games but HL2 was way more important than HALO. it was 10 times better. PGR moved from 60fps to PGR2 with 30 fps which was very bad too... lots of games moved from 60fps to 30 during that era. finally we get back to a normal framerate but still bad latencys on consoles.
@PrefoX Bro I was 13 years old playing the original Xbox on a CRT with all my buddies. Not a single one of us even knew what frame rates were at the time, the quality of the games & the experiences we had with one another was top tier in my humble opinion.
Nah, 2006-2016 was the golden era for gaming
@@Fazers-On-Stun Id have to go with 2004-2011. 2016 is taking it way too far imo. The Xbox One launch was horrendous lol
@@PrefoXBro is acting like frame rates are what made games good or bad. My guy, BF3 on Xbox 360 was classic and it ran at 30 FPS. Halo 3 was 30 FPS. Don’t care. Those games were peak
Really wish it was playable on Xbox.
The recent Halo 2 20th Anniversary LAN in Vegas put on by LVL50 and Chris Puckett was awesome and I recommend checking it out to anyone who used to follow the pro scene. The prize pot was crowd funded by donations and hit $100K while some of the teams were loaded with old pros like team Final Instinct which had Roy, Walshy, Strongside & Lunchbox.
Everything was played on OG Xbox's and CRT TV's and all 3 day's were live streamed with live commentary with Puckett, Dudynsky, Alex Mendez, Dan Gaskin and a few others.
After the sigggraph 2000 hl2 demo
Its a field day for cut content
Another cut halo 2 level alpha moon just got released by them too
5:05 I thought the same thing, I'm glad that you pointed that out John.
😮My current time eyes wanted to run, when I was presented with the look behind the smoke & mirrors, witnessing the true (low) resolution of that city image in 2024. Compared to the time when my teenage self, first saw the original footage. The night and day difference is jarring.
Just got an Xbox for cheap and it came with halo 1-4. Going to play for the first time. Been a PlayStation fan my entire life 😅
Need to get some friends together and play splitscreen for the original experience. Has to be on the same TV
@Gidenkidenk meh. Niche nostalgia. Nothing better than having a full TV for your FOV and having froends in a party co-op instead.
Man MCC is phenomenal. It has Halo 1 through 4, and halo reach. The order you need to play it in for maximum authenticity and best understanding of the intended story is: Halo CE Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST, Halo Reach, and halo 4 isn't a halo game. Halo 5 is even less of a halo game, and halo infinite is hilariously bad with no story and all the cool stuff happened before Halo infinite and was not even explained even after beating it. Screw 343 those people are evil. Same goes for this "Halo studios" rebranding of 343 so the first thing they ever did as Halo studios was to launch a game demo only on PC that Xbox fans have been desperate to play for 21 years now. Not the greatest start. I hate Halo studios
Halo 1 hasn't aged that well so you might find it a bit tedious with its long sections. But H2 and H3 were the pinnacle of the series, so if you don't get on with H2 then that's probably it for you. H4 was just something that felt tacked on that didn't have a soul.
MCC does have native 4:3 support and goes all the way down to 640x480 so you can actually get scan lines on it.
Oh geez, I remember going to the midnight launch. My friend was all about getting it at that event so we all went.
I also remember the French version leaking a couple weeks early. I had downloaded that and was playing it early on my modded Xbox and that friend stopped hanging out with us for that little stretch to avoid spoilers.
I never thought in my life i would actually be able to play that demo. It's a surreal feeling.
Amazing that we can finally play this legendary demo! Now they just need to bring it to Xbox too.
It'll likely never be on Xbox, unfortunately. The only reason it's on PC is because a group of fans worked on the MCC mod to make it happen. I read an article that had one of the Halo Studios people saying that if it wasn't for Digsite (the Halo fans who made the mod), the demo wouldn't have been remade. Halo Studios didn't care to remake it, and neither did Microsoft. Digsite did all the work. 343i/Halo Studios simply gave them the assets they needed.
Now we want that Killzone 2 demo, please make it!!!
I remember it like yesterday.. never queued tho. Bit much. I do remember being v disappointed this wasnt in the game - and nor was the last level! Gotta say though the original Halo trilogy might be some of the most just straight dam fun games ever made.
Microsoft still holding on to Halo (Gears of War is pretty up there as well) is a testament to how important it was.
True! The fact that these are the only console exclusives to Xbox shows how much it means to Microsoft!
Halo and gears of war are xbox in my opinion
If it meant anything to them they wouldn't have ruined these franchises
nahhhh theyve ruined these franchises already, the fact is simply that microsoft doesnt have any new quality franchise since.
I'd say Halo has been boned a lot harder than Gears. Gears 4 was Mediocre but 5 is pretty damn good and Tactics was a surprisingly good turn based strategy game
Wish to see that The Division reveal demo playable.
And Watchdogs.
going out at the afternoon to buy a game u really wanted and going back home to play it through the whole freaking night despite knowing u have to go to school next day was the fking best plus back then when u were a kid staying a day or two without any sleep was manageable lol.
+1 to DF halo 2 deathmatch vid!! Yes please!
It's a neat curio and I'm sure the scripted elements were pretty groundbreaking at the time, but personally I wasn't remotely impressed by this demo in 2003, I mean this was the same E3 that Half Life 2 gave their tech demo presentation which just blows this out of the water imo. Plus all that stuff pretty much ended up in the final game!
I wonder if I played the demo at the booth? If it was there I definitely played it 21 years ago. 🤔
Anyone know the specific reason this isn't available on actual Xbox consoles? Just feels like it really should be, for obvious reasons.
Do you need the steam version to play this mod or can you do it with the ms store version from game pass?
When can we play the kill zone 2 trailer
I want to play this on. XBox :/
They never made the battle rifle single fire ever?
sigggraph 2000 hl2 demo next?
Hey DF, i am realy interested in an Video about gt7 pro update😊when can we finally watch it.Thx for the beautifull content
I wish they made Halo 2 playeble on PC without bells and whistles
Project Cartographer.
You can play the original version if you can get the disk, maybe it's available on torrent also. You'll need an older operating system, or at least play it in a virtual machine OS.
I can not understand how it's not playable on Xbox... How is it not possible for MCC to run yet another Halo 2 engine? I've seen other devs run mods on consoles as dlc and expansions I can't understand how it's not possible to play on Xbox as it's old software and the consoles should be able to run the software effortlessly without mod support. How is this situation even real? It sounds like more 343 laziness to me. And to add insult to injury, 343 clearly still does not care about Halo and it's lifelong day 1 fans who are more responsible than 343 for making Halo the smash hit it once was but they disrespect us by giving steam the one demo we've all been dying to get our hands on for 21 years. That is a level of apathy and disrespect that's hard to understand. They are the worst fucking studio of all time
Man I was so fucking happy to have a steam deck oled when this came out as a console gamer myself. Try and find a way to play it, if you're an OG fan it's gonna blow your mind I've honestly played through it a few times every day since its come out
The engine didn't get ported over. It's running in retail halo 2. As far as the demo itself goes, xbox has no mod support, and i believe we would need xbox devkits to compile and test the map with the xbox specific shaders.
The project is done in our free time as volunteer work. 343 supports us and endorses our work but its not up to us whether content makes it onto xbox, we would also like mod support to come to xbox.
Just let another studio take over halo and make all of the 343 content a bad dream masterchief had while in cryo sleep
Halo 2 10 minute demo >> Halo 4 + 5
Hi DF,
You should do a video on EA Madden 25 and College Football 25 for the PS5 Pro-both are top 10 best-selling games in the PS Store. However, both games are locked at 60 FPS on the PS5 Pro, while the Xbox Series X offers 120Hz for both titles. Is this due to a CPU limitation on the PS5 Pro?
11:16 - Reminiscent of Final Fantasy X's initial battle sequence with the Sinscale.
As much as I love Bungie's final products, Halo 2, 3, ODST, Reach, and Destiny 1, Bungie is totally made up of bull shit artists. Luckily they had talented people to make up for the bull shit artists there.
Halo 1 will always be the best game.
ha ha ha!
343 and halo studios are such a holes. That demo was running on actual Xbox hardware but they expect us to believe that an Xbox simply can't pull off running this demo so only steam get it lol I'm so mad
Not that they don't think it can pull it off but because they don't want to use actual dev time to add mod support to Xbox. This Digsite stuff is done for free with occasional help from old bungie guys still at 343 or retired
they never said anything about this cant run on xbox lol. its just MCC was never updated to have real modding support on xbox because most of the modding support was done by a third party studio, not 343 themselves
Dude. You're from Cincinnati John? Didn't pick mine up at Northgate Mall. Got mine at GameStop in Eastgate at midnight.
Cool to know you grew up in the Nati.
As soon as you said Northgate Mall I was like holy shit. He's from Cincinnati.
So in essence, the Killzone 2 reveal trailer being pre-rendered had to be shamed, but an on-rails demo is perfectly acceptable??🤔
Yeah remember was big disappointment.
I will never forgive the Halo devs for faking this trailer. The final game was genuinely pathetic by comparison, and the franchise has been downhill ever since.
Halo 3?
@veilmontTV don't feed the trolls
@@chrisj320ac3 you might be right but the comment was so dumb
The actual game was leaps and bounds better than this trailer. What are you talking about?
wow this looks awful!!! can’t begin to imagine a time where this was impressive, thankfully things are better today 🙏🙏🙏
This demo is and always will be Kino as fuck, you kids don't get how good this era of gaming was
You honestly “can’t begin to imagine” what games were like in 2003? How old were you then? 😉 As John puts it this was very impressive FOR ITS TIME. Games of “today” wouldn’t exist otherwise! You just need to put things in context.
Btw: never, ever look up the ANCIENT 8bit/16bit consoles, they’ll scar you mentally for life! The 32bit era even, terrifying! Stick to modern games only and you’ll be alright 👍🏻
WORST FRANCHISE EVER CREATED!! MEGA L FOR THE GAYBOX FANQUEERS!!!
Ryan Miller does mommy know you sneaked back on the Internet for attention? 😂
@@mikeuk666ryan itching for the next df post like a drug addict itching for his next hit. Didnt someone doxx ryans location. Should pay ryan a visit & sort him out.
Jesus Christ dude. How old are you? 12?
are you 9 years old?