Sony FX30 - LOW LIGHT ISO TEST vs Sony a7IV Full frame & APSC vs Sony FX3 | Sony a7SIII
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- Опубліковано 27 жов 2022
- In this video I test low light capabilities of the Sony FX30 vs Sony a7IV in full frame and apsc mode, and compare vs Sony fx3 / a7SIII.
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Dude, you're an F'ing gem. Didn't expect to laugh this hard in an informative camera video. Keep doing you sir! I trust you! 😆
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I honestly love how real and direct you are. And yes I agree 100% with you
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Loved it! Thank you for your honesty. Pre-ordered the FX30.
I love your honesty. You say exactly what I was thinking and experiencing with my fx30 or any of my Sony cameras. 🙌🏾👏🏿
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You add a lot of humor to your videos man, keep it up.
🙌🫡 thanks for the viewership
New fx30 user here. Thanks for the edutaining content. Bout to start watching the older stuff just for the ending 😂
Great job, Vu! Thank you very much!
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Dude I love you energy. Appreciate the advice 💪🏽
Love this video man 🤘🤣. You are filming some friends of mines wedding in September. I’ll try to say hi 👋
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Btw, it was the best sponsorship integration on UA-cam I ever seen :D
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Hello and thank you for your work! did you use flexible iso slog3 or s-cinetone for these tests? Which do you think is best for having as little noise as possible? i have an a7 iv which i love and i just got the fx30 and it's my new darling! thank you
I use slog3 and flexible iso.
Use slog3
congrats on 15k man
Thanks bro
hahaha. you the man! this channel will blow up to 15.5k soon! power!
Damn bro 500 more? Hopefully within my lifetime
Thanks for this informative video! I much prefer your style of reviews, rather than the mainstream ones.
One question I have for you is: do you get light banding when taking photos with indoor artificial lighting with the FX30? Thinking about buying it, but I keep thinking that the a7iv is better since I take photos sometimes and it has a mechanical shutter. But the photos I take are just for social media, so I’m not sure if I can justify the price of the a7iv. Your help would be appreciated!
Haven't tested. But you should be fine
I am interested in how you use your Mist filter and if you have it on all cameras when filming a wedding.... I love the look of your footage.
Hey dude looking to get a camera for my videos. FX30 or A7iv
Great video and pure entertainment! Subbed.
Thanks
Brother thank you for keeping it all the way live (Real). Your ablibs are great. I love when the other Asian character comes in (I mean you playing someone else)and you’ll have banter. Keep doing what you do brother!
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I really enjoyed the way you present omg so funny and dry lol excellent keep going,1 question i have the zv e10 would it be worth it to upgrade to the fx30,i have the zigma trio of lenses
Good idea. Thanks
Question for Vu. Picture Profiles 7, 8 and 9 are missing. I read somewhere that they are described for the log shooting. So if i then put "Log Shooting" into Cine EI, Picture Profiles are completely disabled. Going back (Log Shooting OFF), none of the avialable picture profiles are SLOG 1, 2 or 3. I can only find SLOG 3 under Color Gamut in the Log Shooting menu. I am confused.
7 and 8 are gone. 9 is SLOG3 with the best gamma which is now cine EI / flex iso mode...
7 was slog2... No one needs that... And 8 is slog3 with some different gamma
.. no one needs that either
@@nVuFilms Okay thanks for explaining that. PP9 is now enabled in the log shooting menu. Thanks
Ouh man. You got the perfect mix of Fun and Information! 10/10 Boy! 😂💯
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for make UA-cam vlogs which one will you recommend between, Sony A7IV or Sony FX30
The skit in the end had me hip thrusting the subscribe button.
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Can't agree more with you !!! Keep on vloging !!!
Great job again! 👍😄👍
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Hey man, great review. Quick question: Does the FX30 have a "Super 35" mode (or rather "MFT mode" then haha). So any FF lens will be cropped like 1.5x due to the APS-C sensor, but can I then punch in further digitally given that the resolution should be enough? So something like the Tamron 70-180 would be something like a 105-270 anyways due to the sensor and then become like a 160-400 after punching in digitally ... that'd be great for static ultra close up angles.
Yea. You can clear image zoom. Or you can do 120 4k and it's a huge crop
So for very low light you recommend flexible iso over 2500 cine ei?
Also how about zhiyun molus 60 vs your lc30bisexual light? 😅
Awesome, thanks again, question: Would you use an fx30 for real estate, interior video? To me it seems if you had a fast wide prime with an fx30 it will be the ideal lightweight to have on a pro gimbal. Your thoughts.. Brilliant comparison, I hope more gear youtubers would do professional comparisons as well as you do. Thaks again.
Absolutely with Sony 11mm
The outdoor commentary, did you have some type of filter on? Looks good.
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Great video, really informative. Been thinking of buying this camera for my trip to Greece in July to document the journey... I do have one disagreement, I think my other channel is fasting growing UA-cam channel, a food channel called whatchef , created in 2014 has an amazing 1100 subscribers hahahahah.. keep up good work your vids are great
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帥呆了，love ur style! 🤣
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😂😂😂😂 i love your humour bro!!! Great Humour and great info! Keep it up!
Hey Vu, have you had a chance to test how much of a crop there is on 1080 240fps ? I am waiting for mine and cant seem to find that info anywhere. Thanks!
I will never use that festure
@@nVuFilms why not ? you would look amazing in slow-motion 😅
@@celsotx lol
Great video Bro, did you use a ProMist filter in your garden ? 1/4 ?👏
1/8 freewell mist
I shoot weddings and mostly shoot in 1080p. I’d be curious to see how the FX30 performs in 1080p vs the A7IV in 1080p APS-C crop mode, if there are differences in detail and noise at higher ISO between the two cameras.
I did a video previously that covers this. Thanks!
just a question : was there a slight crop on the 15mm on this video (talking head part) because of maybe distortion compensation or active stabilization turned on. because it looks not as wide (15mm supposed to be 22.5mm in full frame and it looks more like 28mm or maybe i'm wrong)
You are wrong. I've tested this side by side with 24GM on full frame and 15mm on apsc and 15mm is wider.
@@nVuFilms thanks for the video. is it true about people complaining fx30 doesnt't have second base iso of 2500?
it’s the dry satire humor for me, and how you talk , good job on the video 🤣
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Best channel ever!!
Bro i got this fx30 pre ordered but until now sony is delaying the release in my location due to their plans coming from the sony dealers. Not sure what that is. I watched Mark Bennett review on a74 apsc mode rolling shutter vs fx30 rolling shutter and it is better than fx30's also in low light. Down side is that it doesn't shoot in 4k120 and no s cinetone (i think). So im losing my taste on fx30 and planning on selling it once i received it. I ordered the one with handle that narrows the price difference on a74 by $140. Though if i just get the no xlr handle then yes it $700 difference. But considering i already have a6600 and saw this video and your motivation about fx30 now I'm beginning to like the fx30 again. 🤣😂 What the heck is wrong with me. 🤣😂 Nice video by the way. You need more subs. Not only your video is informative but also interesting to watch due to funny but true moments. It's like watching a stand up comedy but with some real world mf facts. 🤣😂
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Hey Vu! Thanks for another great discussion. I'm getting really bummed about all the grain in my shadows, even when filming on the base ISOs of my fx3. All my tests were indoors and I was using an ND filter (the polar pro one) AND I was exposed 2 stops over on 12800 and still getting grain in the shadows, even after lowering the shadows in post. So I felt I was doing everything right and still grain! The lighting was not terribly dark either. I'm curious if you use an ND filter to help out with exposure or if you just crank the shutter? I'm starting to wonder if my ND is screwing things up.
I crank for run and gun shooting
@@nVuFilms Awesome thank you! Sorry....one last question, do you prefer shooting on Flexible ISO or Cine EI for weddings? Everyone is telling me Cine EI but for run and gun I don't know if I have the time to fiddle around with compensating for exposure. Thanks!
@@lisamaefilms2774 cine ei. You have to double check your exposure to be honest. I think you are +2.0 for the overall image and not +2.0 for the subject you are exposing for
@@nVuFilms innnnteresting...that's it for sure I bet. Thank you so much!
@@nVuFilms So you're totally right! I just overexposed greater than +2 on my indoors subject and FINALLY got no grain. Does this mean I have to learn zebras? Anyhoo, THANK YOU!!
What brand of glasses are you wearing?
Very cheap brand
I feel you man
What do you think about getting 2 fx30 as A and B cam? (my logic don't make sense) I'm new to videography and for hobby.
I think it's good
Do you edit in davinci? I'm having issues with getting my footage in there to color correct for my Sony fx30..
Premiere pro
Had good laugh as always
Just would like to know if the a7iv has a 4k 24/30/25 fps on crop mode? Or if the aforementioned fps are only on full frame?
It has 4k24 crop
@@nVuFilms thanks, man. finally, that gets me to hop on the a7iv over the fx30. Upgrading from a6000 to a7iv after 2 years, is quite a big jump for me (especially budget wise) 😂😂😂 and now im quite certain that this is the right time for me to upgrade this year.
Anyhow, keep up the good work, sir 👊🏼
I’m still at 74 subscribers after ten years. 😂
🎉 congrats!
Dude just made me laugh with the fastest growing youtube channel and it took you about 7 years to get to 15k 😁😁😁😁
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Wonder if the pay decent to have kept at it this long
@@takoflame4948 it's like $200/month
How is the rolling shutter compared to the others?
Between a7siii and a7IV. It's good
Can you compare the FX30 to the GH6, Canon R7 or XH2s! Especially low light!
Nah man. I ain't getting all those cama
brother you are my favorite Tuber love your channel so freaking amazing how you can do it with a straight face lmfao
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Thanks bro
Hi Vu, how about low light in s cinetone? Is it useable in 2000-8000 ISO?
Yea
@@nVuFilms great, to hear! Thx
Hello, sorry for the question, what color profile or pp did you use in the sony fx30
Slog3. Cine EI mode
@@nVuFilms Thank you😁
Thanks
in the beginning the outside shot, is this on the sony 15mm f1.4?
okay forget my dump question. i jsut saw it in the beginning of your video. sick!!!! probably my brain recognized it but it didn't processed it :-D hahahaha
Lol yup
i was debating whether to upgrade my 3rd cam from a zv-e10 to another a7iv or the fx30, thx to ur test i've decided to save $800(CDN). this is what I imagine the optimal 3 camera setup for weddings is
fx3: main b-roll cam for that 4k60 cinematic dof
a7iv: wide/tight tripod cam for ff/crop versatility
fx30: tight tripod cam for extreme reach
Hey. That sounds solid AF bro.
Well done buddy.
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Do you think the FX30 only as a gimbal B/C cam with the 11mm/1.8 will do the trick for a wedding party?
That's a bit wide. I'd go with a 15mm maybe even 23-24mm
@@nVuFilms I intend to stabilise the footage in Catalyst Browse and ending around 18-20mm. 10-20mm F4 PZ is on my list also, such crazy moves can be achieved on a gimbal. I use Sony Edge software on my phone (gimbal mount) to tap where to focus. From my experience you can get away easier with a lower ISO on wide lenses because details in the frame are smaller (perception). Its a difference having 10 people in frame in lower ISO than having 1 closeup shot of one or two people. On the side i wonder what Blackmagic is doing, they sure got a lot of hits lately fron Sony, Canon, Fuji....they cannot enter the AF game, they dont seem to be able to enter the minimalism game. IThey only have one shot, a box type camera in the style of Komodo, with more DR, less rolling shutter. There is so much silence on the BM forums that you can slice it with a sword...
@@cristianmihai4818 when things are so wide like that ... It loses the cinematic look. Because movies don't film on gimbal that wide (that often) I personally gimbal on a 50mm on full frame. Which is 35 on apsc.
Again my recommendation is 15mm +
Thank you ✊🏽
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Son... You're funna AF. Just start making some comedy videos. Subbing just because of the humor!
Lol thanks for the sub and viewership
Hahahah I busted up when "tube doucher" left your mouth hahaha
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That Asian lady was my mom driving through Westminster, buddy!
Sure was
I love your style bro
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Hey Vu, I am curious! how do you light a wedding without spoiling the atmosphere? Grtz
I have a few videos about it on my channel
@@nVuFilms I’m gonna check them! Thank you for providing me with laughter a few times a week! Grtz
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He made me laugh so I subscribed.
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Graet video, but is better if you test in a real low light situation in order to watch de noise
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I have just finished watching the video on a 55 inch 4k tv… I cannot see any Noise/ grain. You might be able to see this before uploading to youtube. On e uploaded to youtube, it seems that there is sone kind of compression which will make the noise to be less visible.
Lowlight capabilities seen to be a concern for many, I would just suggest to get a fast lens there are plenty of f1.4 lenses for e-mount.
Absolutely. I would never recommend a 2.8+ lens on apsc
@@nVuFilms I would, I use it all the time, as long as their is enough light (typically during daytime) Stealth mode sony pancake 20mm f2.8 + a7IV or any of my old apsc sony. Try it if you have that lens, you'll might be surprised.
It has arrived! Confirmed! great camera. Of course not for everyone. People that want the FX30, know exactly why. If you have doubts you most likely will benefit more from the A7IV.
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Không biết anh biết tiếng việt không ạ? em cũng đang quan tâm về fx30
A little bit
These dark humor is gold 😂😂.
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Thanks for making a low light iso test. It'd be great to see footage where you can't control the lighting to really see the impact of low light on the FX30.
Examples: Sunsets, blue light/night time street videos, fast vs slow movement and things of that sort.
Obviously, there's a reason people are buying S IIIs and FX3's and they're not all full frame chest bumping cave divers.
Hey .. let me tell you something...
A7SIII and FX3 and FX6 are have a one of a kind sensor than can push ISO limits, but even they will look like shit in uncontrolled lighting.
Even Hollywood cinema cameras that cost $50k + doesn't handle low light anywhere near the a7siii and not even as good as fx30.
Thanks for ur viewership but I will not be doing any further " tests " on this matter. Buy it or don't. If u really want to know, rent it and pixel peep it.
I learned everything I know about filming and cameras by going out and doing it on my own. Can't spoon feed people everything.
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The Canon comment got me 😂
Dude I have to watch the whole video no matter what just to catch the side by side at the end. Not sure if that shit is racist, but it's funny as hell.
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Best review 😂
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Love your content, but I don't get how you did this ISO test so that all shots are exactly the same looking in brightness and especially Depth of field.. as when you change the ISO you also will need to darken the light or change the f Stop so it looks the same... Did you use NDs or something, as if you change the F stop in correspondence to each ISO shift, the depth of field should change too.. But I don't see a shift in depth of field at all.. If you make the lights all darker with each shift, that would show too different characteristics... But they all look exactly the same. SO, just wondering what you did here to compensate for the ISO changes to make them all look exactly the same? It almost seems like you didn't do an ISO change at all and just changed the label and this entire video is a ruse...
Shutter speed.
@@nVuFilms thanks for your quick response.. I never thought of changing the shutter speed as that is not a normal thing to do... if you change it to a faster shutter speed, would that not also change the look of the noise too as the amount of motion blur would shift also? I really don't know.. In this test it's just your face moving, thus very little movement .. but a wide shot waving your arms or a car driving would look more staccato than the normal 24fps 48th filmic look.. People are using a high ISO for when it is a low light situation.. not bright lights stopped down with a really fast shutter speed that will change the standard film look motion blur. I don't know if this is really an accurate test of noise levels at high ISO, as people don't shoot high ISO with bright lights on things, unless they really want a staccato look or slow-motion.. What is also interesting is that going from 4000 ISO to 12800 is only 1.66th stop, less than 2 stops difference.. But if you shot the 4000 ISO at 48th you would have to of shot the 12800 at around 128th Im guessing... a different look with moving objects...in most instances people are going to shoot 12800 at 24fps at 48th in a low light situation.
I do also acknowledge what you stated in the begging of the video, that noise tests on UA-cam are a joke as it compresses things too and changes everything anyway. And that is the entire point you are making.. It don't really matter about any noise, and if people are paying attention to the noise in your video, you made a really boring movie and they are paying attention to noise rather than the content in your film.
Where is your alter ego at?
😂😂😂 you and I would be friends
A7-4 also overheats.
I've heard. But not mine. I only speak about my own experience
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Trouble is - we've now seen the rear screen of the A7R5 and it really should have been on the back of the FX30.
But Im from a third world country so what do I know. 😆
It's very minor to me. The screen
@@nVuFilms no Vu - come on - the flip is a pain in landscape - and the tilt is a pain in portrait. Plus Sony rear screens have been poor clarity wise. Sony seem to have solved this.
@@markshirley01 for my use makes no difference 🤷♂️
Hilarious thanks for the info
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My eyeballs have rolling shutter. Should I be concerned?
My eyes have natural anamorphic width. Should I be concerned?
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In germany a fx3 costs 4700! Euros. I would rather shoot myself in the head than spending this much money for a 4k camera without viewfinder.
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