Hornby Railways R.866 L.N.E.R. B12 Locomotive from 1978 with Wagons & Coaches
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- A look at the Hornby Railways R.866 L.N.E.R. B12 Locomotive from 1978 with Wagons & Coaches of the period, including R.105 Birds Eye Wagon (c1974-79), R.135 Smiths Snacks Wagon (c1978-81), R.184/231 Texaco Tank Wagon (c1975-91), R.104 A.W.Day Five Plank wagon (c1973-74), R.007 UD Tank Wagon (c1976-82), R.136 Bolsover Wagon (c1978-82), R.114/215 N.E. Brake Van, R.435 LNER Teak Composite (c1977-79?), R.436 LNER Teak Brake (c1977-79?) and R.229 Pullman Car (c1975-79?). All dates are approximate Music Source / Royalty-free Apple loops/Looperman.com
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Oscar's enthusiasm for these models helps me recapture how I felt about them myself as a boy growing up in the late 60s and 70s. His soothing voice and relaxed approach make this a nice channel to visit and an escape from the perils of modern DCC locos and the current modelling scene.
Good morning Craig, its great to hear you are enjoying the videos.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, hugely appreciated.
Oscar
Definitely renewed my interest in DC layouts. I was considering defecting and going to DCC, even considered converting my old HST 125. Glad I left it as DC now. :)
I have fond memories of this locomotive. My Mum and I found one (the earlier glossy finish one) in a junk shop near to where I live, so we bought it. When we got it home I discovered that it had a built in smoke generator, and it ran perfectly. Sometime later it was damaged by a friend and a piece of the cab roof was broken off and one of the steps up to the cab too, but a few days ago I rebuilt it and repaired the damage and remedied the weakness that causes that crack. It's a nice reminder of my Mum, who sadly died in 2012.
Hi, thats great to hear the video brought back some great memories. Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave this terrific comment, its hugely appreciated.
Oscar
@@oscarpaisley Would you like to see the repair I've done? It's come out quite well really. :)
Wow she looks like brand new beautiful runner Thankyou for sharing your collection.
Thanks for watching!
Oscar
Hi Oscar thanks for the great video! I just got my hands on a Tri ang M7 for 25 pounds! Really good features for the age
Hi that sounds like a great price for an M7, good find. As you say terrific models for there age.
Thanks.
Oscar
I’ve got one of these which I’m getting back to good running order. It was given to me as a present as a 7 or 8 year old in about 1998. It has great sentimental value.
Good morning Joshua great to hear you still have your original model, maintaining them is all part of the fun of owning these items especially if you have that long history with them. Sadly I have none of my original models from childhood but the replacements do feel that bit more important as there are many memories connected with them.
Thanks again take care.
Oscar
My dad bought me the N E black one and I still have it. My brother in law has only ever had one model train and it's a B12 in N E black too oddly! Great video again. Your videos are something I look forward to at the weekend. Hope you get a J83 one day!
Hi, Stephen it's great to hear you have the N E version, Im still on the look out for one my self. I have earlier this year acquired a J83 in quite nice condition with instructions dated 1976. I shall get around to a video shortly.
Many thanks for watching.
Oscar
Hello Oscar my B12 has a crack under the footplate as well. Mine was bought on eBay for 27 pound's and it didn't work at first and it kept shorting out my layout. So I took it apart and inside was a Hornby coupling hook. The curse of the hook.
Henri, that sounds like a great price. Great to hear you fixed it and got it running nicely. Always brings a great sense of satisfaction and all part of the fun.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment is hugely appreciated.
Oscar
Great video Oscar the b12 is a very nice locomotive
Good morning David glad you enjoyed the video.
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
In the 1978 catalogue they had the pre formed layout ,I would of loved that not sure if it was ever produced ,I have a later B12 split from the Anglican set when some retailers done that it’s in the British railways blue and has a chuff chuff box ,great posting again and my weekly trip down memory lane Cheers Oscar ,all the best ,Mark
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Good morning 1968Concorde, I’m sure I’ve seen a set of those preformed sections for sale at a show once, all wrapped up in bubble wrap with tape , but can’t remember the price though must’ve been very exciting item to get as a child.
Thanks again for watching glad you enjoyed the video.
Oscar
I have this loco without motor and pickups. Don't know what happened to it. I must try and look for spares for it. Great video as usual.
Good evening Jonathan, terrific to hear you have the model. Its shouldn't be too difficult to find replacement picks on that well known auction site!
Thank for watching.
Oscar
Great video as always Oscar .B12 one of my favourites . I’ve got the BR black one , old stock from a shop that was shitting down in 1973 . She still holds her own amongst newer stock and looks good on some Hornby Crimson and Cream Gresleys . I love the layout , as I’ve said on countless occasions just takes me back to my childhood when I dreamed of having all these models!
Good morning Russell great day he have a B 12. And thanks again for watching I’m really glad you’re enjoying seeing the layout in action.
Oscar
A nice look at the B12, I have the earlier black one but its been repainted green. I also have the modern day equivalent which is a beautifully detailed model.
Good morning Rob, Great to hear you have the B12 And the modern day model sounds excellent I shall have to have a look them.
Thanks for taking the time to watch.
Oscar
Thoroughly enjoyable, with some great panoramic views of your layout. Your attention to the detailing on the various stock makes me look at my own with renewed interest...thank you.
Good morning Peter great to hear you enjoyed the video. It’s amazing when you look closely at these wagons the detail found and slight variations especially from the catalogue sometimes. It’s all quite fascinating. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it’s hugely appreciated.
Oscar
Hi Oscar. The numbering of Hornby wagons in the catalogue in the period 1972-82 can be confusing. In 1976 the range went fully over to 'silver seal's (so R114 became R215 for example) and the numbers for several wagons changed. In 1980 several wagons gained paint finish and changed number again. Strangely the Bolsover wagon has 3 varients: no paint finish, self coloured with grey paint inside and black plastic with paint finish outside ( my favourite version) - they are all numbered R136.
I should add there were even more colour varients to the Bolsover wagon in train sets during the 1980s - there was a turquoise one.
Great video as always. Keep up the good work. I had to rise the track level at the station as my B12 was dragging along and cliiping the edge of the platform due to the long over hang at the front..Oh hum....
Good morning Howie, Yes that overhang is a bit of a problem she does just clip the platform when she comes through the crossover next to the station!. I’ve shown it in a couple of the earlier videos with the B12 and my station platform isn’t as close to the track as it could be.
Great to hear you enjoyed the video and thank you so much for watching and taking the time to comment.
Oscar
Love your cinematography, the shot underneath the flyover whilst the B12 is coupling to the wagons is wonderful. Thank you for this morning's review, Oscar. Gord :-)
Good morning Gord, thanks again for watching this morning, it’s great to hear you’re enjoying the videos.
Oscar
nice video, must get my black B12 out for a spin with some Thompson coaches. Yes it is beautiful loco admired it when it first came out. Did see the preserved one up at Sheringham. BTW i have an Arnold Sands wagon sitting in my coaling stage,
Hi glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching.
Oscar
Really enjoy your videos Oscar. Appreciate the amount of effort you put into them.
Peter it’s great to hear you’re enjoying the videos and really nice of you to say so thanks so much for watching.
Oscar
Once again thank you for another great video. I can't help feeling that you were enjoying yourself today. And why not. 😊
Good morning Terry you’re absolutely right I’m definitely enjoying myself playing with the railway. I’m so glad you enjoyed the video, thanks again for taking the time to watch.
Oscar
@@oscarpaisley No worries about that, Sundays would not be the same. No seriously I do enjoy your videos very much. Thank you for taking the time out to make them.
Superb Triang layout.
Thanks great to hear you enjoyed seeng the layout inaction.
Oscar
The Triang B12 are lovely. I got a wartime black version for £25.
Good morning Craig yes the B12 models was a lovely looking bit of design from Tri-ang all those years ago. The war time black version sounds like a great buy.
Thanks for watching, stay safe.
Oscar
Great insight into the hornby B12, its one loco missing from my collection. love the old style catalogue's with all the details. thanks for sharing Oscar...........Tony
Good morning Tony great to hear you enjoy the video. It sounds like it might be time to hunt for a B12!
Thanks again for watching.
Oscar
@@oscarpaisley Thanks for replying i might just do that.......cheer's Tony
Lovely video Oscar, That loco is a lovely runner! Great selection of wagons too, 85p on the box - wow!
Regards
Kev
Hi Kev, glad you enjoyed it. I wish they were all 85p now!
Oscar
Good morning Oscar, a great run with your B12. It looked splendid after you uncoupled from the wagons and it was stationary with one of the trackside lamps shining down onto the boiler. I have never seen the N E livery it looks interesting, I hope you find one. Best regards to you.
Good morning Mr Snooze, Great to hear enjoy the video. I shall keep a look out for the N E liveried one. You’re right those yard lamps Create a great effect. Sadly the iPhone,s don’t perform well in poor/lowlight(despite what Apple claim) they look really great with the room lights turn down at night but the iPhone just doesn’t capture it well.
Thanks again for watching.
Oscar
Great video and a lovely locomotive a smooth runner as well I got kneller hall a while back perfect condition just needed a service and a recharge of the magnet and it was perfect .
Wondering if you did the same with the B12
Hi Darren, your right they do need a little care and attention before running especially if they have been stored over a long period of time. Re-magnetising is worthwhile if its an option, some magnets hold there magnetism better than others. I had also Re magnetised the magnet between the wheels to see if its pulling power could be improved, however the magnet was already showed a very strong reading when checked and there was no discernible improvement in the reading or the pulling power from the magnadhesion after the Re-mag. I think the reduction in pulling power in these later models fitted with magnadhesion is down to a combination of the finer scale plated tyers on the wheels and the change in the back to back measurements creeping in at this time.
Thanks again for watching and taking the time to comment.
Oscar
The designers were jolly clever folk, that chassis extension you mentioned is a common part with the L1, the large hole accommodates the socket for the Seuthe smoke unit. I'm not sure if the crack on a later model would be shirnkage of the moulding or just overtightening a countersunk screw. Another great video, thank you.
Hi Andrew, great to hear you enjoyed the video. I think you probably right over tightening may be the most probable cause for the cracks in the these models, I wonder if a few may have left the factory this way!
Thanks again.
Oscar
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Good Morning Oscar,
I really enjoy your videos and the way that you present them, absolutely first class!.I was once the proud owner of a vast Tri-ang Hornby collection which was sadly broken up many years ago, However I recently came across some remnants of it and there was some interesting items amongst it, including some wagons that were made at Margate for the Australian market in the late 1970's i.e. C&A 5 and 7 plank open wagons, Millers open wagon, Peter's Milk tank wagon and two Brake Vans in Victoria Railways and New South Wales livery's. I was wondering wether or not you have these items, please let me know, as if not I would like you to have them to make a future video about them. I look forward to your reply, all the best for now, Bob.
It's not often you see Australian liveried stuff here. Sounds an interesting find Bob.
Hi Bob, I had quite a collection of Tri-ang Hornby as a child that had been past down to me form another family member who had grown out of it as they say! Sadly I in turn grew out of it! along with the more contemporary items from Hornby in the late 70s early 80s I had been given for birthdays and Christmas. As theres thing do they all vanished over the years, I think this is a familiar story many as they grow up through there teen's into adulthood. The models you mention sound very interesting and would indeed make for an interesting video.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Oscar
Hello Oscar, I really enjoyed the video once again this Sunday morning. The B12 has always been on my wish list but I would prefer the black BR version. I'm surprised that you don't have any Arnold Sands wagons as I see them often at train fairs. I have a rake of 7 of them. Take care, I'll be watching for your video next week. David.
Good evening David, I was quite surprised I didn't have at least one Arnold Sands wagon. I was positive I had one along with a Yellow Shell tank wagon. I have since got myself the tank wagon but looking at a couple options on the Arnold Sands wagons.
Thanks again for watching glad you enjoyed the video.
Oscar
A nice good video as you do all the time keep posting videos up cheers from lee
Hi glad you enjoyed the video.
Thanks for taking the time to watch.
Oscar
So, if this loco is from 1978 and it has magnadhesion, when did Hornby stop making steel track? At that date you are around ten years into System 6 track, but all the System 6 track I have seen has been nickel silver.
Good morning Roger, Pat Hammond's book indicates that nickel silver track had been available along side steel track as early as 1973 and marketed as part of the Silver Seal branding, the silver seal branding was dropped in 75 but both nickel and steel track seems to have been sold side by side until about 1994 when the book indicates that most steel track item were dropped in favour on nickel only. I wonder if the nickel track was a much more expensive product?
Hope this information helps.
Thanks again for watching and taking the time to comment.
Oscar
@@oscarpaisley Many thanks for that explanation. During that period I was more into girls and music so I guess it just passed me by; it's only the grandchildren that have got me back into the model railway thing in the last few years.
A other great video Oscar wish my trains run like yours my locos always jump off at the points MelPlows
Good morning Mel, great to hear you enjoy the video.
Oscar
what a great video, just like every Sunday's fix... Very stunning in her LNER lined Green... Did I see the Deltic in the station? ATB Neil
Hi Neil, great to hear you enjoyed the video today, and yes that was the Lima Deltic at the station it was in a video a few weeks ago heres the link. ua-cam.com/video/iW53aCnKPFY/v-deo.html
Thanks agin for watching.
Oscar
May I ask, have you had the R866 B12 from 'new' Oscar? It runs and sounds remarkably well for a late 70's loco. I have two B12s 8544 , 8528 and hope to have 8556. I am considering a 8509 but am worried that it will be too noisy. What a meticulous layout you have, thanks again for sharing.
Good afternoon Ron, sounds like a fine collection you have, sadly I have none of the items I had as a child. I got this B12 from our local model railway shop shortly before it closed about four and a half/five years ago now. It's quite a quiet and smooth runner for a model of its age.
Thanks for watching take care.
Oscar
Hi Oscar
Nice loco the b12 I have a black one as well got away without any cracks in either of them but the green one is a bit worn, but it shows that she was used and loved . You will have to give me your email address so I can send you the pictures as it stands of my layouts rebuild. It is on hold at the moment needs lots of new track but slight lack of funds. Thanks for letting us see your collection.
Regards Paul osman
Hi Paul, great to hear you have both of those great models. I would love to see some pictures of your layout. oscarpaisley.triangchannel@gmail.com
Thank's again for watching it hugely appreciated.
Oscar
hi oscar great video. do you have any Birds Custard wagons R002, i run my jinty with 6 of them on the rear, they are very coleurful. hornby did some great private owner wagons in the early 80s
Good morning Peter, at present I don't have the Birds Custard wagons. They are a very striking looking model I bet they look terrific as a rake.
Many thanks for watching.
Oscar
Good video. Can I ask what gradient the raised track section is.
Hi the incline rises up to a hight of 90 mm over a distance of 2.8 m Both inclines have cover sections within them.
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
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i got one of these off ebay and it didnt word and got a different chassie and it didn't run, anyone know anyway to fix this?
Hi, Sams Trains has some very useful videos that could help get you locomotive running again in his maintenance playlist, below is a link to one of them.
stay safe.
Oscar
ua-cam.com/video/7ywWAmHqMAk/v-deo.html
Hi Oscar - and here's one back at you! ua-cam.com/video/9TXrVAfKgiM/v-deo.html (Just a bit of fun with Nellies)
Looking forward to your next video. Keep well. Gordon