Is Pay-to-Win Ruining Roblox?
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- Опубліковано 23 жов 2023
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i think having an option to gamble through paying robux - especially if you're gambling for Pay To Win items - is often very manipulative and not good to have in Roblox games
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I wish more people followed through with the “boycott BIG Games”
Also, this is why I only play games that can’t sell pay to win games, where even if you buy better things you don’t get an advantage. A good example of this is Bloxburg as there is no pvp element.
tbh i completely forgot about it
BW is another example, you can melt others if you got skill and experience
The strongest battlegrounds is also a good example,you need actual skills
All role-playing games fall into the category
@@numberone163MPAand the "p2w" is simply just unfinished characters
My opinion is that The gamepasses are not meant to be for late game, its like for a starting kit for starting players and doesn't effect people that spend hours grinding.
I think that servers which have p2w items that affect gameplay should give people an option if they want to go to servers in which people buy the in game stuff or servers in which people don't p2w. There could be a thing where the game tracks your robux spent in it, to make this work better. An example can be, if I were to join blade ball, there would be a popup asking me if I want to go to a p2w server or a server in which people don't p2w. Or it puts me in the server automatically, or something.
Great idea I agree
I agree
As a small developer who has made a good amount of money from roblox without using pay to win, I think that developers have plenty of options to make money without requiring users to pay to win. I mostly do stuff similar to MM2, by making you most likely have to pay in order to get different skins and effects. A regular player with a starting item could beat up someone with a paid for item. I think that most other developers that use p2w should make the switch to "pay to customize". Basically, you pay for stuff that customizes different parts of the game. Simple, and as shown in the fortnite example in the video, it still works really well.
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Pay to win works best in team games like Break In, because you're paying for the team to win. But in competitive games it ruins the fun.
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I feel like loot boxes are never going to be gone from Roblox, but I feel there should be a rule where lootboxes have to have a thing where a certain item is guaranteed in a certain number of draws. Example, infinity ability from blade ball being guaranteed to be given to you within 30 spins
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Roblox will never do this, unfortunately. Why some may ask. Roblox themselfs are money-hungry sweet baby gang
So basically a pity system?
@@Bow_owbasically a pity system
Nuke simulator has this but you can only get it if you spin it's wheel 400 times and 1 free spin is available every 8 hours.
"Simulators don't last long."
Bee Swarm Simulator, with people still playing it since like 2010.
You clearly didn't understand don't forget that bee swarm simulator is one the rare simulators that aren't pay to win and the game is not like simulators it's one of the most original ones most simulators are just brain dead clicking or faeming while bee swarm simulator is way more than that not forgetting it is one of the least pay to win simulator.
It was made in like 2017
Eventually the whole entire world will be pay to win
Except for my game
I will never be p2w, I have only ever bought 1 robux item in my 4 years of playing and that only costed 5 Robux ($0.06)
technically already is lol
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Already is,always has been.
7:45 A beautiful metaphor.
Well if it works like that just make games that can allow the devs to do weekly updates that the game doesn’t target kids for their player base but actual 13-18 yrs old players to keep their player base active with actual gameplay and stuff unlike simulators, Deepwoken is a example of an actual fun Roblox game that provide weekly update. even if it cost money to play but it’s just cosmetic or more slots to create ur character
Well if it works like that just make games that can allow the devs to do weekly updates that the game doesn’t target kids for their player base but actual 13-18 yrs old players to keep their player base active with actual gameplay and stuff unlike simulators, Deepwoken is a example of an actual fun Roblox game that provide weekly update. even if it cost money to play but it’s just cosmetic or more slots to create ur character
Yeah, I think it does. Roblox developers are only thinking about money so they make crappy cash-grab games. I wish it was always like 2015, where it was a different story.
pay to win games have always existed, though more rarer back then. a good example is tycoon games, i remember there were like 30 pop ups when playing a tycoon in 2016 while i was on the xbox so it was really frustrating
@@Pumpkingd6jo Yeah man, I'd say 2014 - 2017 was the peak of roblox creativity for games.
Me who has all the p2w stuff for free by just pure luck 😎😎😎
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And the biggest reason is: roblox REALLY favors games which generate a lot of revenue, so the developers are forced to have p2w in their games, or else the game will not get any players
For me as a f2p player in Pet sim, i quitted it since i got bad pets, updates release weeks after weeks and i just can't keep up with the new worlds
They should make buying things for other people you get special benefits and donator tag.
Yup! You really did a great job explaining that Kreek, and I soooo agree with ya!
Developers should come up with a different way to get money, than to make pay-to-win games, cause they need to get some robux somehow, but this is not the way to do it!
Idk how to do it though cause I'm not a developer, but I wish I knew, then I'd let them know lol.
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2:05 In the past, the gacha was only 100$, now it's really expensive, 1000$
0:56 u can get it from daily rewards not just coins or robux
20 minutes when this came out
Kreek is one point with this video. The reason I leave almost any game is because I am still far from the end. Props to blox fruits because they added an update which is accessible for all veteran and new players
There is also robux items outside of cosmetics and PTW's.
If you played VoxlBlade or simular games, you have 3 character slots to choose one and with robux, you get 2 additional slots.
It's not a cosmetic because it doesn't effect visual aspects of the game and it's not a PTW because you it's just adding two function.
Although there is a PTW aspect when it comes to unlocking the 4 races in VoxlBlade, the price is on the reasonable side of things.
0:50 Wow, I got the rapture ability on my first or second spin and I didn't even know how rare it is. Also I'm not happy with this pay to win taking Roblox.
5:34 UNLESS someone gives u a very op pet.
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@KreekCraft me and some of my friends are working on a game rn.
We are going to add kit like characters for robux some would be free with free battle passes
But we want to make it fair for p2ws and f2ps so they have the same pace in Lvling up in the game.
Aaaand when it comes out will you play it?
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I will it sounds fun and you tell us the name
The thing that is bad about Robux is that people are PTW with them and sometimes don’t think about what they are buying and how it affects others. I mean if it is a story game or a game that isn't competitive like Total Roblox Drama or Break in, it can be okay. But competitive games like Blade ball or Pet simulator, it is just ruining the game. It also is annoying when somebody flexes something they got from buying it like a Sword in Blade Ball.
Here is a way they can fix this though.
1. By changes some games and making stuff cheaper.
If they change this then it can change the Roblox system and make people happy.
The only fully non ptw game is a game thats not even fully known called Balanced Craftwars Overhual you physically cant pay to progress and everything comes for hard grinding
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The devs nowadays only think about what will give the money not what will keep the player wanting more that's why most games updates are just repeats and it's frankly sad
I went into a morph game which was charging 150 robux for every morph
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With anything there's an exception. Bee swarm simulator I'd say is one of those games where you can't pay to get to the end because it takes literal weeks or months to get one item.
Money will not get you there. Which is why I think it hasn't died yet, anyone can play it at anytime and pick it up within a couple of minutes.
I'd also like to point out games that do a good job at getting payment (robux) while also appealing to mostly players with no robux. Example, Evade. I've been playing evade for a long time now and it's apparent that you don't have to pay robux to have fun. Most of the robux that the creators earn is through donations that are advertised through the game and avatar items that players can buy for their avatars. I've seen so many people have fun playing it without paying anything, and at the same time the creators get decent payment.
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Exactly, we developers dont earn any money from normal players playing our game. We have to sell gamepasses etc to even get back the money we spent on developing the game, let alone make profit. For bigger games this works alright but especially small developers struggle. Prices of gamepasses often have to be high as you only get 70% of the revenue and if your plan is to dev-ex well gl... conversion rate is bad and you lose alot of money to roblox again so gamepasses do have to be priced higher. Many people just wont play these small games then cuz they are too "expensive"...
I think this is an absolute YES. Back in the day there used to be no micro transactions and only gamepasses. But nowadays there has to be atleast 200 in one game. You get the point. But there are still some good games out there. As a f2p i have been playing money simulator x which is a mega simulator project that has close to no p2w.
simple answer, PAY TO WIN RUINS E V E R Y T H I N G
it doesnt really the only thing it ruins for free to play is getting on the lederboards the p2w just makes ppl progresses faster in the game thats just it
@@musembifamily1318 It completely ruins the competitive part of games.
Roblox is already pretty P2W with its mechanic, now just imagine if EA owned the game.
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Quality would upgrade but p2w aspects would too
Also Blade ball for me is not pay to win my brother got rupture in one spin I got it after 5 spins
I have reaper and blink full maxed from only 20 hours that I played the game,my brother has forcefield maxed only after 7 hours
Nahh that's cake now what if Mr.crabs owned it
Roblox is over
6:21 I got to that situation and begged for a while but that doesn’t work so I quit PSX.
The thing about blade ball is most of the gambling is cosmetics that just look cool it’s not that hard without rapture and infinity
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Just to let you guys know "Blade ball" is *based* on a game called "Genji Ball" a custom game in Overwatch.
Honestly devs should take advice from natural disasters survival like u can use a little robux and u would only a get slight advantage so a free to pay players and p2w has almost the same odds of winning.
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tbh something that might help this is that all the money goes to roblox, then from the joins or something, the developers could get paid by the players joining the game, meanwhile roblox is still making money. But I’m some minor laying in bed. What do I know? 😂
Basically the way youtube does it. I honestly think this would be great for the community but for roblox that just means hiring people to manage the payouts and ultimately spend a lot of money to only increase their cashflow by a small amount in comparison to what they make just by doing nothing. But idk im just a minor too 🫠🫠
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0:34 all you have to do to understand how it works is literally just click the question mark at the top left (but yeah it's kinda stupid)
bee swarm is like the one and only exception i can think of because the game isnt just a brain dead clicking simulator and you require more than just buying the rarest eggs in order to have a good hive. paying to win doesn’t exist in that game because you need balance.
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6:45 i disagree on that because there a halloween event that you can buy flying boost and a op bike and combined it not that easy but not that hard
Indeed they do
For cosmetic selling, im pretty sure dungeon quest goes well with it
It really depends on which game you play if for example you play blox fruit it’s just a way to support and actually get better at the game if you don’t have skill but your can still get the item for free if you try to trade for it but others game like ride a bike or psx are only ment to P2W
That was, in fact, a pretty good analogy
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I dont think is ruining Roblox pay to win. Its ok when games add certain passes that make you better or give a bit of advantage but there is a limit to that. Some games add to much payable things.
in my opinion, selling gamepasses for robux is not so bad but u have to make it available for other people too so they can also get the gampasses after some point, completing quests or from in game currency.
but games like bloxfruits though give most of items free but having fruit notifier, darkblade, 2x money, exp ,perm fruits, + fruit storage gives a huge advantage to pay to win players while free to play players have a hard time.
I mean u can have gamepasses but there must be a way to get the gamepasses for free to play players.
man "Blade Ball" is bassicly game about people using "ping pong" glove from slap battles
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I used to love bladeball the first 7 days of its release because there were no auto clickers and just simple players. Now you cant even find a server without at least 3 auto clickers in it
i think blade ball is now popular bc you play on that stream with kakav219 and olix vs rebooted poppy etc
I think kreek does a good job of explaining this. The reason most games are p2w is to make money to fund the game and also just make profit of it. So the reason why there are more p2w games are because many devs and dev groups are struggling to find other ways to make money.
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The thing i dont like - how simulator games just straight up started to be like arm wrestling sim. I remember when alot of the simulator games were original, had original mechanics.
Kinda off topic but I have a theory: Ok a theory is that maybe the titans got upgraded and had a self healing structure and need energy from the agents and they are already almost done healing and titan tvman can help to heal aswell what if the titans self heal with titans next to them and alive and the more Skibidi toilets die the faster the titans heal and with tvman they should be almost done that’s why the cameras went into a rage to just heal the titans and everyone just started to attack I think that’s why titan cameraman got his shield regenerated from the acid hitting it if you see closely the shield went out for a second and came back why? Because the guy was getting beaten up by speakerman or maybe in the background toilets were getting beaten up by the normal agents ik it’s long but worth it to read
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Well for the spin wheel in blade ball, it is not entirely ptw. I got rapture on like my 4th try without spending any robux. But yes it is still hard to get.
Well for the spin wheel in blade ball, it is not entirely ptw. I got rapture on like my 4th try without spending any robux. But yes it is still hard to get.
ok,as for a child who played 2019,im very assure that i used to love those times.WHERE WERE THEY! we love that that time line even to other years. kreekcraft can either put a stop to this or roblox himself. i hope roblox can stop this
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Bedwars finds a smart way to combat this. It has a battlepass (which has a p2w element ofc) but also there's a free battlepass awarding free kits and kill effects to f2p players. Kit rental passes, and free kits of the week let you use kits you don't own.
I think the strongest battlegrounds is another example of a not so p2w game because atleast for the early access it will eventually become free and the rest are pretty much cosmetics that aren’t p2w game passes
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but on the bike obby the leaderboard of speedrun only counts for people that completed without any pay to win or skip exept if the person bought the motorcycle wich is faster than bike
blade ball isnt that p2w bc i got rapture from the wheel f2p and you can get infinity from the halloween raffle and the lightning spin you spent money on you can get by completing special quests
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The first thing I thought about blade ball when I started playing it was "this game is pay to win". And I don't really find that fair because rich people can win easily meanwhile players either not allowed to buy robux or don't have enough to pay for robux very often cant make progress. Also everything in that game is overpriced, so beginners won't have a good time starting it.
I definitely agree even with my most favorite game adopt me, it’s all about values and pay to get a good pet and literally there’s no point of paying in adopt me no more because pets are always losing value.
I also disagree with the bicycle game because you have a free season pass and a spin wheel to help you beat the game. What I mean by this is i got the permanent og flying bike and a lot of skips and power ups. You don’t even have to spend robux for the bicycle game you can
just keep spinning the wheel every day until you get the permanent flying bike.
I do agree with everything else though about this game being hard and other hard also to the point where you have to pay to win.
I’m just appreciate the effort you put into these videos it makes amusing
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devs could make a area which gives you 10k of that ingame currency every 1min in a afk zone for that zone so f2p players can get to the new content
I think having 3 different donate gamepasses with varying prices would get you more money than the P2W items because it actually get people that are interested to donate
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that's exactly what im feeling blade ball was a nice game before the infinity ability then it just started to become gambling time, and that's why I don't play lade ball anymore
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With anime champions it’s different it allows you to buy all the gamepasses with gems that u can get for free of an infinity tower which means all the people can play completely for free or spend money to help the game
Honestly, deflect inspired Blade ball, it has no abilities, if blade ball is too hard for its abilities, I reccomend playing Deflect, but I never payed anything in blade ball, but I’d say I’m pretty alright, but there are moments like just not at all competing and just hiding, there’s not going to be much though compared to blade ball
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