I dont think I ever saw a youtube series that catched me so much. I love your channel but more than that I am loving this story you are doing with amazing chess puzzles and a backstory to take our attention. Really nice content, I am so happy this channel exists :)
I was thinking the same thing. You have to switch up the moves -- f3 before h5 -- so that black ends up on h6 and you can safely waste a move with the g pawn. If you let black end up on e4, you're done for. Took me a bit to work that out... This is the best puzzle I've ever seen. Both players dancing on the edge of checkmate the whole time.
@@animedbz20 I played the position against Stockfish and after 1. h3 d5 2. h4 Qxe3 3. fxe3 d4 4. cxd4 you just push the h pawn, win the pawn race and trade queens. After that promote another pawn and it's an easy victory.
If the Queen tries to stay alive, you just push until h5 (remember, the Queen can't take it) next you push f3 when Queen is on h7 or g6 and lastly, you push g4 and then you waste your move with g5. Finally, black is in zugzwang.🎉
Nelson, there is really no-one who can explain these complex puzzles in such a structured and systematic way as you can. Hats off to you and keep it up!
This vid is a great example of why I like Chess Vibes videos compared to others. Not only does he explain why h3 is the correct move, he explains what the flaws are with ALL the other possible pawn moves. Most other channels don't do this, or at least not fully, - they mainly just explain the winning move and dismiss the other moves as not being worthy of discussion. But for beginners and low-end players like myself, learning what's wrong with certain moves is as important as learning what's right with others. A very thorough analysis of an interesting puzzle. Thanks! 🥳
I put this in Stockfish and The best move was to sack the Queen for the knight after H5. But you just promote, when black tries, sack the queen for the pawn, then promote using a other pawn, and win
6:15 after move Qb6 and Bg5, what if black plays Qb2, white has to take Knb2 and what happens after Rd1? isnt black just defended from being checkmated?
Black is trying *not* to run out of moves, silly. Why don't you fish ever work these things out instead of rushing to ask? And what you're missing is that tempo and parity are two quite different things.
If they play d5 first then they can move their queen quite freely. When I go into Practice With Computer, it says d6 is a mistake. Then, if D5 h4 (best sequence) then it becomes Qxe3 and its a win for white in about 40 moves.
Chess against Martin but you have to connect pieces in a particular way in the middle of the game 1. All your remaining pieces on the back rank 2. 4 stacked pawns 3. All remaining pieces in a square (4x4 or 3x3 or 2x2 depending on how many pieces you have left) Choose one of the challenges and good luck!
So after you pin the rook to the king, what about Qd4? If the bishop takes the rook, the queen takes the bishop and that's probably a win for black. If Bg5 then Qxc3 with check and you win the knight.
Of course that's not a draw. Why wouldn't white want to take the queen? and why don't you fish a) work these things out yourself and b) understand that, if black could draw, Nelson have said so and that would have made the whole exercise pointless?
You're talking nonsense. Black is trying *not* to run out of moves. d5 just loses faster. You and a large number of other fish here seem to confuse tempo with parity.
But what about h3 d5 (no d4)? I mean the main idea h4 with the Queen back and forth on C1-h7 diagonal. And not the best move (acording the comments) Qxe3
Black actually wins, do they not? After Qe4 if you play h3, black plays d5 right away, then h4 > Qg6 > h5 > Qh7 > h6, and now white lost because black can shuffle qeen back and forth without any traps...
@@tanyishunedison Ugh, a small correction, I meant 'Qe4'. So, back to where the queen was before Qh7. Just in case that what you said was sarcasm, this allows black to next go Qh1+, or, if white goes f3, Qxe3.
That position doesn' t look legal, though. Black has captured 5 pieces with his pawns, and White has 9 left over. The White bishop was captured on f1, so it wouldn't have been captured by a Black pawn. 2:25 You're running out of pieces. ((a few moments later)) So you sacrifice your rook. 4:53 After White's first move, I suspected that there was a stalemate possibility, seeing as most of Black's pawns are blocked. 9:17 Well, there were only two moves that didn't lead directly to mate, and I chose the wrong one. 8-( 14:06 Evidently, one of the other fisherman is named Vladimir Bron.
The position is legal. Black pawns have captured 5 units; White is missing 6 of which the f1-bishop was captured at home, leaving 5 to be captured by the pawns.
@@christopherheckman7957 It's a bit late to argue you don't need to justify your incorrect claim, when you already did try to justify it with your faulty retro-analysis.
Um...there is a mistake in your puzzle here Nelson. Once White moves pawn to h3 you said that was only winning move. Black however can gain the tempo on their move by moving their pawn to d5 instead of d6 for the same reason and change the queens position can't they?
Gaining tempo doesn't give black anything, though. The queen is still forced to move from e4, and then f3 will prevent the queen from coming back to e4.
You confuse tempo with parity. Black is trying *not* to run out of moves. d5 *loses* a tempo and thus loses faster. And in no case are you presenting a refutation of h3 being the only winning move -- it is indeed the only winning move (against best play).
First of all, my post is 10 fucking months ago. 2. I cannot understand your statemant, because u are just a foreigner in the world wide web. What nonsense is that? 3. are u just a trol to try feel better becaue ur life sux?@@JimBalter
Nelson, that chess board and pieces you put on the thumbnail is better than the one you use in video, it's not necessary but if possible please use that chess board and pieces that you put on thumbnail
What about d5 instead of d6 for black? doesn’t that change the tempo to whites move so that it would turn out the same way as h4 d6 which is the same as h3 d5
"You set up the position, I choose which side to play."
Begins to set up normal starting positions
"No no, that's not how you play the game"
my dirty mind.
I've just understood how Bobby Fischerman improved so much since the first episode. He must have gone fisching and caught a stockfisch.
😂
He ate the fish and turned into Bobby Fischerman 😂💀.
😅
@@bebektoxic2136 Fish is brain food, after all.
@@christopherheckman7957 correct ✅ 😂😂😂😂😂😊
What a fantastic puzzle; the black king was essentially that grumpy cave troll stuck in his crystal cave!
Love this series - keep it up!
"You set up the position, I choose which side to play."
*Sets up starting position.*
NaBro (chemical molecule)
@@magicmagerx2649 What element is Bro? Is it the element of friendship?
@@danielyuan9862 how did u know
@@danielyuan9862 bromine oxygen?
I dont think I ever saw a youtube series that catched me so much. I love your channel but more than that I am loving this story you are doing with amazing chess puzzles and a backstory to take our attention. Really nice content, I am so happy this channel exists :)
This puzzle is CRIMINALLY underrated. I have never seen it before, wich is shocking. Unless of course this puzzle is relatively new.
74 years old. Whether you consider that relatively new or not is up to you.
I love Nelson's enthusiasm explaining the puzzle and the last wow giving the final solution. Keep up with the great content, good job!
I think you should've covered what happens if black plays d5 immediately after h3. If you're not careful you get put in zugzwang yourself
I was thinking the same thing. You have to switch up the moves -- f3 before h5 -- so that black ends up on h6 and you can safely waste a move with the g pawn. If you let black end up on e4, you're done for. Took me a bit to work that out...
This is the best puzzle I've ever seen. Both players dancing on the edge of checkmate the whole time.
@@animedbz20 I played the position against Stockfish and after 1. h3 d5 2. h4 Qxe3 3. fxe3 d4 4. cxd4 you just push the h pawn, win the pawn race and trade queens. After that promote another pawn and it's an easy victory.
@@emersonarriety
But wait. Human wouldnt sac the Queen.
If the Queen tries to stay alive, you just push until h5 (remember, the Queen can't take it) next you push f3 when Queen is on h7 or g6 and lastly, you push g4 and then you waste your move with g5. Finally, black is in zugzwang.🎉
@@michalkloucek473 yes, human would play into the video's line
Nelson, there is really no-one who can explain these complex puzzles in such a structured and systematic way as you can. Hats off to you and keep it up!
This vid is a great example of why I like Chess Vibes videos compared to others. Not only does he explain why h3 is the correct move, he explains what the flaws are with ALL the other possible pawn moves. Most other channels don't do this, or at least not fully, - they mainly just explain the winning move and dismiss the other moves as not being worthy of discussion. But for beginners and low-end players like myself, learning what's wrong with certain moves is as important as learning what's right with others. A very thorough analysis of an interesting puzzle. Thanks! 🥳
Shoutout to the two GMs who managed to see this entire line.
These chess puzzles make me feel so smart about myself :)
That troll will maintain his distance from black pieces for a time after this puzzle .
These stages are so good man! Thank you for creating this storyline! :)
Gosh, I found Nb2 this puzzle is very interesting. Hopefully you make more of these puzzles!
omg, the fishermen are not only brilliant chess puzzle solvers, but also world class chess composers. O_O
Really fascinating puzzle! :D
What an amazing puzzle. And yes, we hadn't seen something like that in a while
Episode 8: of the fisherman
This puzzle is incredible 👌 i wasnt able to guess much of the right moves except for f3 the last one, puzzles with zutswang are crazy
* Zugzwang.
I got "zogspong" in the subtitles at 10:06 😂😂😂
"Even you have a queen, you can't win if your king isn't safe"
This kind of storytelling chess problems is really nice! 😄 Do you make up this stories by yourself?
14:00 black can play queen d3 but it only delays mate
I put this in Stockfish and The best move was to sack the Queen for the knight after H5. But you just promote, when black tries, sack the queen for the pawn, then promote using a other pawn, and win
Bobby Fischerman is continuously saving the other fisherman
I love this chess series!!
i don't know why but i was expecting meme troll-face or a challenge to be a trolling, but it turned out that troll was trolled
6:15 after move Qb6 and Bg5, what if black plays Qb2, white has to take Knb2 and what happens after Rd1? isnt black just defended from being checkmated?
Knight takes
What a fantastic puzzle you are totally awesome 👌 keep it up dude 👍
what happens if at 8:40 black takes the knight Qe3?
fxe3, and then white promotes without issue.
He loses, of course. Why don't you fish ever work these things out instead of rushing to ask?
4:22 can't you move your bishop to e7 or f8?
Qb2 is checkmate if you play Be7 or Bf8.
Richtig schöne Videoreihe.
Really nice series of videos.
Just curious how many episodes are there in total? And where can we buy this fishermen puzzle books?😊
I would be interested in a similar puzzle, where whichever side someone picks goes first... but then loses.
But can't black just play pawn to D5 after pawn to H3?
No, silly, black is trying *not* to run out of moves.
11:06 What happens if black plays pawn to D5?
Same thing, really.
Black is trying *not* to run out of moves, silly. Why don't you fish ever work these things out instead of rushing to ask?
On 11:06 what if black plays d5 immediately? Then he is equal on tempo... I think? Am I missing something?
d5, d6 and Qxe3 are all checkmate in 16 for white
Black is trying *not* to run out of moves, silly. Why don't you fish ever work these things out instead of rushing to ask? And what you're missing is that tempo and parity are two quite different things.
@@JimBalter k
Now imagine we redo this quest in Super Mario Bros Movie style
you should do a review type of thing on the recent chess tournament or whatever it was, i don’t play much chess but i like watching your videos so
11:00 why not d5 straight away pawn move?
What would that change?
Black is trying *not* to run out of moves, silly. Why don't you fish ever work these things out instead of rushing to ask?
Very similar to Wotawa(idk how to spell it) study. Except black had a queen and pawn but white had only a bishop and 2 pawns.
That was a fantastic puzzle!
1:44 for white rook B3 is mate
No, it's not. Black responds with cxb3.
Nice series
If they play d5 first then they can move their queen quite freely. When I go into Practice With Computer, it says d6 is a mistake. Then, if D5 h4 (best sequence) then it becomes Qxe3 and its a win for white in about 40 moves.
I was wondering that as well.
The moves d5, d6 and Qxe3 are all checkmate in 16 for white, so why should d6 be a mistake?
It looks like your engine don't calculate deep enough :)
@@lenalittle4193 a faster lose may count as error versus slowest lose. You both lose, but this is the logic of engines.
@@dimitriskontoleon6787 When all 3 moves are checkmate in 16, it is not faster ;)
Fishermen's bizzare adventure.
Nice video!
So after bobby fisherman clears the island will there be a second season?
Chess against Martin but you have to connect pieces in a particular way in the middle of the game
1. All your remaining pieces on the back rank
2. 4 stacked pawns
3. All remaining pieces in a square (4x4 or 3x3 or 2x2 depending on how many pieces you have left)
Choose one of the challenges and good luck!
Maybe even checkmate in that position if it’s too easy.
Oh... I was feeling good with my Ne4 Rxh2 Nd2 Rh1+ Nb1+ but then I realised that after Rxb2+ and Kxb2, there are no more ways to deliver checkmate
When it ends can u make another season
troll:🗿
4:22 take the ♜ and after queen move to b6, you can move your ♗ to f4 for deliver the same checkmate threat.😊😊😊
How am I always maximum 1 hour late for these videos?
Then don't be
So after you pin the rook to the king, what about Qd4? If the bishop takes the rook, the queen takes the bishop and that's probably a win for black. If Bg5 then Qxc3 with check and you win the knight.
It's Black's move after White plays Nd3
'If Bg5 then Qxc3 with check and you win the knight'
Where is the check coming from? And how do you prevent the Bc1 checkmate in that line?
The troll got trolled
Awesome puzzle!! Will black be able to draw if they play Qd3 at 12:53, forcing white to take/push?
exd3, and white can then push without issue, while black is unable to. This is easily a win for white.
Of course that's not a draw. Why wouldn't white want to take the queen? and why don't you fish a) work these things out yourself and b) understand that, if black could draw, Nelson have said so and that would have made the whole exercise pointless?
Those fishermen are smarter then magnus
there is a flaw in the end of the puzzle. After H3 pawn, black can simply go D5 and ruin white's tempo
Doesn't change anything.
You're talking nonsense. Black is trying *not* to run out of moves. d5 just loses faster. You and a large number of other fish here seem to confuse tempo with parity.
What happens if black doesn't go d6 after we push h3, BUT D5?
Black is trying *not* to run out of moves, silly. Why don't you fish ever work these things out instead of rushing to ask?
@@JimBalter why do you wait for 10 months just to reply to someone who probably already knows the answer?
But what about h3 d5 (no d4)? I mean the main idea h4 with the Queen back and forth on C1-h7 diagonal. And not the best move (acording the comments) Qxe3
d5, d6 and Qxe3 are all checkmate in 16 for white
4:51 am i dumb or is horse c4 not just mate
It's black's turn.
Black actually wins, do they not? After Qe4 if you play h3, black plays d5 right away, then h4 > Qg6 > h5 > Qh7 > h6, and now white lost because black can shuffle qeen back and forth without any traps...
Of course black doesn't win, else Nelson would have said so. Watch the video and pay attention this time.
Naw bro turned into an elementary student 😂
And then he sacrifices THE ROOOOOOOOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why cant the pawn go to d4 insted of Queen to h7
g4 instead at 13:43?
Then Qe3 and white loses.
@@thetaomegatheta cool, nice forcing move
@@tanyishunedison
Ugh, a small correction, I meant 'Qe4'. So, back to where the queen was before Qh7.
Just in case that what you said was sarcasm, this allows black to next go Qh1+, or, if white goes f3, Qxe3.
what abotut after h3 black sacrefce qeen
Then black loses; duh.
And then he sacrifices THE KNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And then he sacrifices THE QUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What about QE3?
The black loses; duh.
That position doesn' t look legal, though. Black has captured 5 pieces with his pawns, and White has 9 left over. The White bishop was captured on f1, so it wouldn't have been captured by a Black pawn.
2:25 You're running out of pieces. ((a few moments later)) So you sacrifice your rook.
4:53 After White's first move, I suspected that there was a stalemate possibility, seeing as most of Black's pawns are blocked.
9:17 Well, there were only two moves that didn't lead directly to mate, and I chose the wrong one. 8-(
14:06 Evidently, one of the other fisherman is named Vladimir Bron.
The position is legal. Black pawns have captured 5 units; White is missing 6 of which the f1-bishop was captured at home, leaving 5 to be captured by the pawns.
@@Rocky64 It could be illegal for other reasons, though.
@@christopherheckman7957 Claims are useless if you can't back them up.
@@Rocky64 That's right, but YOU'RE the one making a claim. I'm only saying it doesn't LOOK legal; I'm not offering any proof.
@@christopherheckman7957 It's a bit late to argue you don't need to justify your incorrect claim, when you already did try to justify it with your faulty retro-analysis.
9:21
I actually found h3!
11:55 i saw f3
Um...there is a mistake in your puzzle here Nelson. Once White moves pawn to h3 you said that was only winning move. Black however can gain the tempo on their move by moving their pawn to d5 instead of d6 for the same reason and change the queens position can't they?
Gaining tempo doesn't give black anything, though. The queen is still forced to move from e4, and then f3 will prevent the queen from coming back to e4.
You confuse tempo with parity. Black is trying *not* to run out of moves. d5 *loses* a tempo and thus loses faster.
And in no case are you presenting a refutation of h3 being the only winning move -- it is indeed the only winning move (against best play).
11:08 if …d5, then h4 Qh7 f3 Qg6 h5 Qh7 g3 zugzwang
Wrong.
what if the troll chose the white pieces though? is it still possible to win as black?
User name checks out.
Keep them coming THICK and FAST.
May I ask how many chapters to go?
Count up how many locations there are on the map, then add a nonnegative integer to that.
@@christopherheckman7957 how many maps are we talking?
@@christopherheckman7957 they're GREAT problems and stories.
what if black plays d5 directly instead d4?🤔🤔
Black is trying *not* to run out of moves, silly. Why don't you fish ever work these things out instead of rushing to ask? And you mean d6, not d4.
What Happens if the black pawn moves two instead of one move after a6?
Black is trying *not* to run out of moves, silly. Why don't you fish ever work these things out instead of rushing to ask? And you mean h3, not a6.
First of all, my post is 10 fucking months ago. 2. I cannot understand your statemant, because u are just a foreigner in the world wide web. What nonsense is that? 3. are u just a trol to try feel better becaue ur life sux?@@JimBalter
1:01 e4
Qxc5
we do a little trolling
There is one option for black...when white plays h3, black can play d6 instead of d5...
Black *did* play d6, you fish.
But if black plays d5 instead of d6 what happens ?
Black is trying *not* to run out of moves, silly. Why don't you fish ever work these things out instead of rushing to ask?
why cant black play d5 11:07
What would that achieve?
Black is trying *not* to run out of moves. d5 just loses faster.
Nelson, that chess board and pieces you put on the thumbnail is better than the one you use in video, it's not necessary but if possible please use that chess board and pieces that you put on thumbnail
damn the episodes are speeding up
That's just beautiful
Mind-blowing 🎉🎉🎉🎉
They could have set up initial position :D
i thought of that
Bobby Stockfischerman
What if in the very end of game Black moves his D6 pawn 2 spaces once White has only moved his H pawn one?
Black is trying *not* to run out of moves, silly. Why don't you fish ever work these things out instead of rushing to ask?
I saw Nb2 im very happy 😊
Yess yees yeees make it endless❤❤❤
bruh I have subtitles on when he said if you’d like to pause it wrote if you like the balls
pls help me. I am confused at the end why black doesnt play d5 straight away. doesnt this prevent zugzwang?
by straight away i mean why does black play d6 then d5 in two moves, not just going straight to d5
No. The queen is still forced off of e4, and, after f3, won't be able to come back there.
@@SUPERBLUE09 Black is trying *not* to run out of moves, silly. Why don't you fish ever work these things out instead of rushing to ask?
What if the black played pd5
What would that change?
there is no way in hell that he tripled all his pawns and moved them 1 space
I like the story.
What about d5 instead of d6 for black? doesn’t that change the tempo to whites move so that it would turn out the same way as h4 d6 which is the same as h3 d5
No, silly, black is trying *not* to run out of moves. Why in the world would *black* having fewer moves be the same as *white* having fewer moves?
No because d5 defends c4 so black can move the queen
White plays h3 then black plays d5
Then white plays h4
Qxe3