EXCLUSIVE First Drive: 810 HP & Under 2800 Lbs - Guntherwerks Turbo! - TheSmokingTire
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We've been eagerly waiting for months to finally try the production version of Guntherwerks' absolutely insane Twin Turbo Remastered 993. With a Rothsport developed engine making 810 HP in top tune on pump gas and a curb weight under 2,800 lbs, we knew it would be a monster. Fortunately, Gunther have put in the time developing the chassis so it's usable, compliant, communicative and fun. At over $1m and with only 25 units being made, neither you nor I are getting one. But there are few wilder rides on Earth.
NOTE: When we returned the car to Gunther we told them we enjoyed it but it did not feel like full power. They told us the sport mode switch was not working properly, fixed it, and asked us to try the car again, which we did, although we did not have time to film it. On the second go, the car absolutely made an enormous amount of power, substantially more than we experienced in our video. Take away from this what you will, but it is at least possible - Matt
Guntherwerks provided the vehicle, insurance, and a tank of fuel for this review.
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EXCLUSIVE First Drive: 810 HP & Under 2800 Lbs - Guntherwerks Turbo! - TheSmokingTire
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NOTE: When we returned the car to Gunther we told them we enjoyed it but it did not feel like full power. They told us the sport mode switch was not working properly, fixed it, and asked us to try the car again, which we did, although we did not have time to film it. On the second go, the car absolutely made an enormous amount of power, substantially more than we experienced in our video. Take away from this what you will, but it is at least possible - Matt
Unfortunately you didn't harness its real power once sport mode was activated. You were supposed to use it to turn the earth the opposite direction. Go back in time and let them know.
Shout out for having integrity. Great video.
we have to get your reactions to the full power. been waiting to see reviews of this car for years now
But...were you scared?
Aht aht aht ahttttt. Go back and re-record it OOORRR ELLLSSSEEEEE
For some reason YT stopped offering your videos to me, glad to see you've gone past the 1M subscribers.
It seems like UA-cam shadow banned them. I don’t get them in my feed anymore and that might be why their views have dipped as of late.
They took a break in January, might be why you haven't seen any videos lately 🤘
you gotta use your subscription box a lot of automotive channels that have not adopted the 2010s discovery channel formula fit the new algorithm.
It’s like that for me too, on a lot channels I watch, and this a car stuff channel, algorithm wild , mostly pushes politics
Same for me and I’m Persian like him big socks
I really love this format with you both really going back and forth with the details.
100% agreed, they do it quite well
The production on this is insanely good, congrats @TheSmokingTire!
I know you say the high-production videos aren't worth it, as an audience it is well appreciated and wish to see more from time to time, especially for special cars like this!
I'm out of Florida as an insurance adjuster working for the California Fair Plan in Malibu and Palisades, inspecting and estimating total loss rebuilds. Last week, I had a claim with a World Famous Olympian runner known for running in gold shoes in the 90s who had a couple of great supercars in the garage. Yesterday, I had an odd claim in La Canada at the bottom of Angels Crest. As soon as I realized where I was, I shot up the mountain slowly in my Fox rental car, a bright Red Challenger. Holy Shit, you guys are nuts! I saw 3 cops in 10 minutes and couldn't believe how twisty the road was. Wow, you boys can drive! That sucker is no joke, especially in the damp foggy conditions like yesterday. I filmed and posted part of my little drive at 40 mph on FB and gave The Smoking Tire a shout-out and a nod to Matt for braving the threat of the law or driving off a cliff for our viewing pleasure.
If Matt was scared at half power, I want to see this vs the new Ruf CTR. They're true competitors in every sense. That needs to be the next episode of Two Takes.
Dream smoking tire video fr
100%. Based on your comment, I'm guessing you've already watched the CTR Anniversary / TAG Turbo vid Hagarty recently put out. This GW Turbo seems a bit more raucous, a lot more conspicuous, and almost makes the CTR look practical. It's academic to choose a favorite, but I'd take the RUF 😂
I didn't know what the Ruf CTR was so I looked up their website, if you scroll down a bit there is an old man that looks like he is messing himself while driving.....must be good.
@@ClarkeMunford it's not the power that concerns me. The Guntherwerks is 2800lb...but the CTR is EVEN lighter at 2650lb. Crucially, it also has a longer wheelbase relative to the 964 body it's based on. Also, their chassis approaches are quite different. That's what really interests me.
@@JuggoJuggo Ruf is the original Porsche tuner. And I do mean THE original.
Matt your work and channel inspired me to become a full time car auto creator too. This is like old school TheSmokingTire love this power to weight BEAST. Your review of a long wheel base Range Rover done 10+ years ago made me buy one recently too.
I'm not even mad that the price tag was not given. At this level of refinement and quality price is irrelevant to the only people that can afford it.
Matt mentions it in his pinned reply about the power switch issue...$750k. Sheesh.
lol, comments like this give me Porsche owner fatigue.
Singer DLS for sale @3 million graham rahal perf 🤷♂️
You know what they say, if you have to ask, you can't afford it. Haha
@@jeremyb4493 but compared to F80, W1, Valhala... it's on different level, much lighter, similar downfroce/weight
Awesome car! Love this new style of both Zack & Matt presenting! Great filming angles and editing. Keep it up guys!
Man i still remember the first time i saw Matt on a video, that has been like 12 years ago?
I don't comment often because I'm a hardcore TST pod listener for at least 10 year.
Thank you for the years of free content man, ill be listening!
Loved the format of this video. Uncut driving portion and great in-car camera angles. Feels good quality when there’s not a lot of cuts in between the driving portion of the video to explain stuff.
Bananas. Great watch boys.
I love what they put out. To think this all started with a focus on BMWs and Peter Nam starting Vorsteiner. I had an E46 M3 back when that was started and saw this new company come into the market. Now with Gunterwerks this is another level. These cars are very well done by what I can see in a video. I love their design language and would love to have one of their cars if I could afford one.
Me dumb, me just want see matt drive car fast in canyon
I damn sure dont care about no kia
This looks amazing, but idk. It's just yet another unobtanium mobile that no one will ever see, touch, or drive because they'll make 22 of them that'll all be stashed away in rich dudes garages to be busted out for one car show a year or bubblewrapped until they're worth well into the 8 figures. They do incredible work and I have nothing but respect for the absolutely jawdropping craftsmanship they put into these cars, its just a shame they can only be afforded by the people least likely to actually use them for what they were made to do.
It’s weird, because it is such an amazing car, and yet, it’s really hard to care that it even exists.
This is the story with every new high performance car nowadays for the most part. That’s why you’re better off finding something that weighs around 3k pounds cost 1k and shove a junkyard ls with a turbo in it making 800-1000hp all costing under 5k and smoking most anything under a million dollar cost 😂
@@Thumper68 if you actually build a semi reliable car for under 5k I will eat my own shit
@@Thumper68 that’s why the Cleetus McFarland YT channel (aka Garret Mitchell) has been crushing it.
His core audience is roots level racers, hot rodders and tinkerers.
Garrett also has the big bucks toys but he hasn’t forgotten the audience that made him great.
@@Thumper68 Idk, there's something especially unobtanium to me about these resto-mod, reimagining, whatever you wanna call em's. Even things like Aventadors or 750S's or 458s seem reachable. They actually exist and get driven by people who love and enjoy them, and on the used market they do actual hit a degree of attainability. Obviously you'd still have to live a very successful life and save in a disciplined way, but like, I'm just a truck driver and there's a world where I could be disciplined and plan out the purchase of a $300k car in like, y'know, 30 years or something when I retire. These Singers and Guntherworks cars are just on a whole new level of "haha you wish, peasant."
0:55 - "Vintage silhouette" is a fantastic term!
Shifter looks
Amazing.
Great touches on contextualizing the power weight, plus the interior b roll adds some production quality
Excellent review!
Side note: Matt you’re looking really healthy man. Love to see it mate
Thought the same! We could stick him in really tiiiiny cars now!
@ I think he’s pretty tall as well.
The engineering is genius in this car
"if we can't be here for a long time, at least we were here for a good time" 21:31
this quote should be written on the dashboard.
Happy to see this pop up. I just realized I haven’t seen one of your videos in my feed for months. Very Odd since I have notifications turned on
really cool driveby shot at 14:06, kudos
Yeah good choice
Might be my favorite of the “re-imagined” classic porsches. Seem to be the best all rounder. And the best looking. Love the fact they kept the whale tail!
Great film, boys. What a machine!
It’s always hard for me to answer the “favorite car” question that I get so often working at a classic car dealer. Recently I have changed my answer to 911k so that I didnt have to explain why there wasnt necessarily a real answer. Safe to say this will secure that spot. Great video, and I am glad to hear they were able to fix the calibration change issue you guys ran into.
Bro, that Gunther Porsche is so awesome with 830 horse I think that is so sweet that ripped potato chip up and down the hills in the mountains. Take care. Have a good week. my bad it’s a 8:10 hp
Dudes! Amazing video! Loving the format. Epic music doesn't hurt either.
Love this video guys! I am partial to Singer, they'll always have my heart. But man does this GW Turbo really do something for me too. Got a good chuckle out of "man servant"
those wheels are fire. Also that paintwork is so nice. Carbon work is excellent.
Man the cinematography is tip top magoo
The closest i will ever get to this car is my wallpaper on my work computer ! I ❤this car .
This echos of your early work, in all the best ways! Im talking pre-one take days.
I know the production costs you more, but... this... more!
When the Brits say something is “mental” I think they were really waiting for this to come out and truly define the term.
they should make a touring version with some sound deadening, double glass and super comfortable seats, keep the rest the same.
No thanks
That thing is so badass, I’m in love.
Thats an awesome Porsche. Hope the people that buy them use them.
Great video. This is the type of format Matt and Zack excel at. It is why I was an early follower of TST.
Keep it simple. Leave the politics out of it.
I purposely avoid the in studio videos.
10:07 in the industry, we call this “driving by braille”
This car is the pinnacle of engineering. Matt you have came a long way from that one old GM car that only had three working brakes pads. I’m sure both cars scared you equally.
Brilliant guys absolute ST classic
Probably one of the best looking cars of all time imo
5:35 Does that mean when i go swimming I'm actually air cooled too since my head is still out of the water, being cooled by air? /s
Awesome car
Never expected to see the Torque Test Channel here
gorgeous cars. I'm glad you're wearing new balance running sneakers. they are great for driving also! I wonder who else knows this?
Agreed, I’d love to know the model, they look fantastic!
@@Nonameforthisaccount. i have a few new balance 327. I wonder what he is wearing?
Insane power to weight ratio!
Doing this in a sense with my generic C5 Z06. It has been a labor of love and will be, when done this Spring, a leap through several generations of Corvette blended as seamlessly as possible with modern hardware. The core is a forged 402 with ccw crank for better high rpm balance and less wear on the bearings in time. Mamo 235 heads with a custom ground cam for rapid spooling will be force fed by a pair of HPT F2 6466s on pump, E85 or C16 and controlled with an R3 by Haltech wired in tandem with the factory ecu which will exist to run the stock dash and keep the car that one step down from race car on the street. Boost by gear? By speed? Traction controlled within percentage of slip? All that and no-lift shifting come with the R3. With so many dispassionate 8 and 10-speed autos and DCTs out in the world I have also engaged a clutch slipper so we keep up with the Joneses in non-prepped scenarios. Because we DO like the flog the "bought not built types." Drivetrain is C6 Z06 6060 and diff upgraded to high spec with sprayers on the box and some custom gearing as well as a wavetrac out back. AP brakes front and rear powered by a ps referenced master. The suspension is in no way stock, but also not set like a race car on the street. Aggressive, correct, tight but not specifically not jarring and custom rate coilovers to aid this. Turn-in ought to feel a bit tighter than factory by use of FDF's min-mantis on a low setting to improve the steering ratio. A smaller diameter steering wheel will be forthcoming. The car is intended to be a jack of many trades. Likely a true master of none, but most won't know the difference. With the turbos on an anti-lag air tank system and the R3 running the show it will have a true Mild-to-Wild function in a car built to hold over 1k if desired. I am just waiting another two weeks for the metal in the garage to warm up and we'll be back in action.
I was more recently seeking a C6 Z06. Much like the S600 I own which was bought because I wanted to experience a V12 saloon at some point in my life, I have wanted the 427 experience as well. Newly married and planning other expenses, a C6 Z06 just never hit my price / fixit ratio. Instead, I lucked into a pretty high test setup being used as a drag car. No one was making serious offered because they were afraid of what is clearly low 1k rw, and this on a factory ecu tuned for E85-only. Not a problem! So I have picked up the "Poor Man's C6 Z06" which is a 99 coupe with forged 427 in a C5-R block sporting AFR/TEA heads, undeclared cam spec, and an F1R kit with similar full drivetrain upgrades, suspension and Brembo GTs on all four. It had made 850rw at 10psi on pump/meth, is currently at 16psi on E85-only but has not been dyno'd. I do plan to get the number figured out. After that I don't yet know what I will do with the car. Keep it SC? Install a Lingenfelter TT kit I have in the basement? With the Z06 coming online and being the real baby of the household, I am leaning toward converting down to NA and using the car for track day laps and races as I start my rookie year here in the northeast. Since there is no need for more than 650rw on the street, and since I expect the nasty h/c combo will still bang out 550 to 600rw in NA trim, or maybe more (?), I figure an all-motor ripper is a great alternative to the turbo car and a great way to compare back and forth between the two.
Damn near same pwr/weight in track mode as my ZX-6R supersport bike. In a car. That's nuts.
Great video a usual. I have been waiting for this video to drop since i saw you got a hold of the car. Can't wait to take delivery of mine this summer.
the 400r is my dream car. I don't want anything else.. literally nothing. no lambos, no skylines.. just that.
Format is good... Keep working on it until it's great guys!
Didn't like the styling of the previous models, especially the speedster - yeeeuch. This looks much better. The engineering is as fascinating as ever.
Matt is really upping his youtube game by telling us to like and subscribe, and giving us a corny thumbs up. I'm leaving a comment for engagement
That's a work of art!
This car is nuts
Basically the original car (993) by Porsche was 100% perfect out of the box. That was my own experience in 8years of owning one(till last year)
I haven't heard Matt this excited about a car since driving a GT350R..😂..🏁👍🏾
The title alone scared me. Rear engine RWD tail happy widow-making old school 911.
You’re videos just get better and better 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
I have to pick up a Porsche then spend many days taking out all the stuff that makes it heavy and then modify it to the maximum and it still won’t be this car but it be closer than not . One of my dream cars is the RUF ct3 club sport . RUF and singer are similar to this car company. 😊
Excellent car. Excellent video. Also Matt you are looking good!
Good one
If fleet mpg requirements and 1000 pounds of safety stuff weren't mandatory I feel like there's a market for building brand new cars from the past. Stuff like an E39 M5, Mercedes 500 SEC and of course air cooled 911s. You could build them as close to original spec if you wanted or you could pack new technology in them, or do something like slapping a supercharger on that M5 with everything else staying the same. People pay top dollar for low milage vintage cars and there's been a number of replica Cobras over the years. That's basically what these resto mods are but the experience of buying a truly new car can't be totally replicated with them
Guntherwerks looks like a kit car or a toy car. That is it.
"Define your limits by going beyond them." 🏁
Speechless 🔥🔥🔥
8:30 min - 3rd gear! ⚙😉👍
What an amazing color.
that engine bay is crazy looking. I want one so bad
Guntherwerks said they were going to make 70 of the Turbo models. The previous two models were indeed limited to 25 of each though, and the upcoming GWR model is going to be limited to 40
This car looks and sounds like an animal! What a monster!
What! Air Cooled with water cooling? Madness! I love it. I've gotta hard time watching someone complain about something I could only wish to own, yet even drive. Apparently it's the only way to be a Car Critic. Like a wife, never satisfied
Wicked! Love the rifle bolt shifter! Guarantee CARB can't stand it!
Brilliant video guys. I watch every one of em
My absolute dream car
Porsches are still very durable over time.
Keep your 911's from Singer and Ruf, I'll take a Guntherwerks every time 🤤
Love the review format here
Just a reminder that Matt is in his early 40s 🤯
My dream car
Outstanding review. 👏👏👏
Dream car for me
Water Cooled Air Cooled Motors is a fun complexity
Holy moly that's amazing!
Amazing in everything 🔥🙌🏻
What video was his favorite to make? The Ford GT video was a 10/10 for me.
It’s a weird time in the automotive space. I lusted after F40s, Diablos, etc during the 90s. Shortly after college I was able to afford and buy a used 360, and stuff at that pricing level for the following years.
Now I could afford many of the new “mainstream” super cars. But have zero desire to own any of them. They all feel like playing a video game. Sorta like that first feeling of when the R35 GTR came out.
Like growing up in the 90s, I’m lusting after stuff I cannot afford. Like this beautiful example here!
First world problems!
Lust for the 90s Super machines has to be the best ever! I just drive Vipers and always feel like I am partaking in all the 90s magic and brutality. Try and we'll sorter Gen 2 Viper is you prefer purity and analog.
@ I love the 1st and 2nd gen viper for what they are. But I live in the mountains and drive right curvy roads… Not the vipers strong suite. Insane gearing, and fairly subpar handling. Not to mention very limited tire choices.
Meanwhile even the r35 GT-R feels very analog compared to the most recent sports cars
Matt i need you on rogan ASAP. Always loved your appearances there
Glad they retained the 911 doors 😂. Do they need the vin to avoid testing as a new car? I always wondered about that. The wide front ruins the look imo. Singer does a nicer visual job
Who in the world talks about conan obrien 😂
I want one so badly. I would ask them to put comfort seats like my m4c, and mild sound deadening so that I could enjoy it more on a daily basis in the summers. The rest of the car could stay as is for me and I may even ask for them to take the track mode tune to lower power just so I can use that and feel safer on the track.
Great video 👍🏽👍🏽
Those are some of the seciest Porches ever made
Of course I want the car, but the real question is just how good was the Doom LSD??
I wish people would get over that damn beetle! Lol
great video, this car is what my dream are made of. Drool!!!
These companies are gonna run out of these old Porsche bodies soon
❤🤤I'll take it
As Dr. Evil says "One Million Dollars" - Sounds like it is worth it.