Sony A7SIII IBIS vs Catalyst Browse - WHICH STABILIZATION TO USE???

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  • @SidneyDiongzon
    @SidneyDiongzon  4 роки тому +3

    Would you rather use IBIS or Catalyst Browse????

    • @tristanturner
      @tristanturner 4 роки тому +1

      Would it be good to use a gimbal with no stabilization and then render in catalyst browse?

    • @patrikmedia
      @patrikmedia 4 роки тому

      Tristan Stokes that should work really well actually.

    • @mirrorlessny
      @mirrorlessny 3 роки тому

      would use active ibis over catalyst

    • @FlyEnri
      @FlyEnri 3 роки тому +1

      Do you think there is anyway to add gyro data to older sony cameras so that we can use Catalyst ? Thanks for the video!

    • @ninjaninja9954
      @ninjaninja9954 3 роки тому +1

      From all the videos i seen i really do think catalyst browse is much better and smoother. Even the example here catalyst browse looked better than active stabilisation

  • @Panotaker
    @Panotaker 4 роки тому +2

    Once you start walking around, you need a gimbal, active stabilization, and especially Catalyst Browse, falls apart. Catalyst Browse also takes forever to render your footage, and you have to do the clips one at a time. So you can’t tell your computer to render all your clips and come back later when it’s done. You have to do them one at a time. I’m glad they are starting to put a gyro in their cameras, since it does work good for short clips.

    • @SidneyDiongzon
      @SidneyDiongzon  4 роки тому

      It's definitely not perfect, but so crazy that an app can do that with gyro data!

    • @markshirley01
      @markshirley01 4 роки тому +1

      Watch Brandon Li video on this topic. Its a very useful feature if you plan the shots you want to stabalize.

  • @ryanheldoorn
    @ryanheldoorn 4 роки тому +3

    Catalyst actually does significantly better with higher shutter speeds than you quoted. Everyone is so scared of not using the 180 degree shutter rule so they try to keep as close to this rule even when catalyst needs significantly high shutter speeds than 'standard 180 degree shutter rule' dictates. Basically you need to have your shutter speed as high as possible (that your available ambient light will dictate) because you need to have as little motion blur as possible.

    • @arnie9913
      @arnie9913 3 роки тому

      Yeah, cranking up the shutter speed is considered heresy for videographers ! Depends on the shot but it can easily feel unnatural.

  • @markr041
    @markr041 4 роки тому +1

    1. With Catalyst Browse you get to choose how much to crop in and thus stabilize. In principle, for the same stability, CB can crop in less than Active Stabilization, since it is more efficient and how much to crop depends on the amount of shake. With Active Stabilization there is a fixed crop regardless of shake - in a sense it takes the worst case. 2. So, does cropping in reduce stabilization? That is, does Active Stabilization crop 4K or does it use some of the excess pixels on the sensor so you still get 4K but cropped in? Also CB must crop in the 4K clip, so resolution is for sure lost. Tell us about resolution loss, that is key to this.

  • @i_am_kayode
    @i_am_kayode 4 роки тому +8

    you might wanna update this somehow and let people know that CB doesn't work with 120fps footage...did you even test it?

  • @Nekojitablog
    @Nekojitablog 4 роки тому +4

    Please!!!🙏How the normal IBIS performs in a sequence like 2:14? Waiting for that kind of comparison but it never came😅

  • @chinitopinoy1726
    @chinitopinoy1726 4 роки тому +6

    Hi, in a previous video, didn’t you say that Catalyst Browse Stabilization is not available for 120 FPS footage or is that just for the A7C and ZV-1? Thanks.

    • @arnie9913
      @arnie9913 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah I'm pretty sure it is not available on 120 fps.

  • @frankfeng2701
    @frankfeng2701 4 роки тому

    If the camera is rigged up, then I'd definitely try use CB because the extra weight already smooths out some micro gitter and reduces the crop in CB.

  • @Galgomite
    @Galgomite 4 роки тому +2

    My Catalyst Browse experience so far: on my vintage Mac Pro with GTX 1080, it crashes on open. On my 3900X 2080ti PC, it crashes on stabilize in both GPU and CPU mode. And then the error reporting screen fails to report. Pretty much fits with all my experiences with Sony PC software.

    • @pzark3638
      @pzark3638 3 роки тому +1

      Works fine for me - maybe try the newer version if you have not already.

  • @MOMENTSbyRonSonedecker
    @MOMENTSbyRonSonedecker 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent point on when to not follow the double-your-frame-rate rule - seen that same issue/benefit when using warp stabilization.

  • @RCodyWanner
    @RCodyWanner 4 роки тому +1

    the follow shot of your daughter looked RAD with the handheld shake -- the a7siii looks the most like a cinema camera handheld of any mirrorless that exists, I think it has to do with the great rolling shutter minimization from that fast readout or whatever --what do you think??

    • @impatrickt
      @impatrickt 4 роки тому +1

      Still looks like a mirrorless.

    • @SidneyDiongzon
      @SidneyDiongzon  4 роки тому

      Agreed, it’s def getting closer to a cinema camera. It just needs to have global shutter and it’s pretty much there!

    • @SidneyDiongzon
      @SidneyDiongzon  4 роки тому

      🤣

  • @GastonShutters
    @GastonShutters 4 роки тому

    You get a better idea of each stabilization capability when walking with the camera where the sensor shifts faster. Catalyst browse is the winner in that department

  • @cuatrodeuno
    @cuatrodeuno 2 дні тому

    quick question does the gyrometadata works on 4k 120fps? i know not all gyrometa works on higher framerates, but i wanted to know if this still records metadata in 4k 120fps

  • @giampierobazzu2421
    @giampierobazzu2421 Рік тому

    Hey thanks for the video, my question is that here you also have a stabilized lens, am I wrong?

  • @iz5442
    @iz5442 4 роки тому

    DAMN! that cranking up of SS tip is great. U know whats better than Catalyst browse? GIMBAL AND CATALYST BROWSE.

  • @joelkvarghese
    @joelkvarghese 3 роки тому +1

    Would you use active stabilization in combination with a gimbal ? Or turn it off?

    • @SidneyDiongzon
      @SidneyDiongzon  3 роки тому

      You can! I didn’t use Active Stabilization in any of these shots

  • @RoamingDevi
    @RoamingDevi Рік тому

    hi need one help ..catalyst browser seems not helping me to stabilize 10.2.2. bit footage in the free version ..is it correct ..i used the CFexpress footage to stabilize .Feedback will be appreciated .

  • @BrunoGabrielTV
    @BrunoGabrielTV 3 роки тому +1

    When I’d use Catalyst Browse, do I need to fully switch off the stabilization, or would standard stabilization be fine?

    • @SidneyDiongzon
      @SidneyDiongzon  3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, you need to turn off stabilization in the camera

  • @saudi4us
    @saudi4us 4 роки тому +2

    How is the footage look if you combine the active stabilization with Catalyst Browse

    • @JonPais
      @JonPais 4 роки тому +1

      you can't do that

    • @SidneyDiongzon
      @SidneyDiongzon  4 роки тому +1

      IBIS has to be turned off in order for Catalyst Browse to work

    • @screammachineman
      @screammachineman 4 роки тому

      more like catalyst and THEN warp. And the answer is...good.

  • @markshirley01
    @markshirley01 4 роки тому

    This very exciting technology - I see its in the A7C. As a gimbalphobe I may have to give it a try.

  • @Quantdummy
    @Quantdummy 3 роки тому +2

    Bro does gyro stabilization work with manual lenses? Or only Sony e mount native? What about 3rd party e mounts

    • @mirrorlessny
      @mirrorlessny 3 роки тому +1

      think gyro works with all lenses because it doesn't take any movement data from them

  • @TommyGunsStudios
    @TommyGunsStudios 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Sidney, Do you turn off the IS on your Sony cam when its on your Gimbal?

  • @PackingLess
    @PackingLess 4 роки тому +1

    How long does Catalyst Browse take to stabilize a clip? for example if you had a 20 minute clip is it fairly fast to stabilize it or does it take a long time the longer the clip is?

    • @SidneyDiongzon
      @SidneyDiongzon  4 роки тому +1

      It takes seconds to stabilize! But you do have to export it after it's processed.

    • @PackingLess
      @PackingLess 4 роки тому

      Sidney Diongzon is the export time long and longer the longer the video?

    • @markshirley01
      @markshirley01 4 роки тому

      @@SidneyDiongzon you can also grade with it - see the everything man's video.

  • @theothervalentin
    @theothervalentin 4 роки тому

    Bro I just noticed that you can leave ibis in your camera on and still use catalyst browse stabilization. but only the normal stabilization, not active. works really well with catalyst stab.

    • @ahmedreads1794
      @ahmedreads1794 4 роки тому

      interesting...Do you see anything weird that happens to the footage or is it really better

    • @theothervalentin
      @theothervalentin 4 роки тому

      @@ahmedreads1794 still works perfectly. the only thing is to have the shutter speed higher bevause otherwise motion blur goes into the wrong directions sometimes.

    • @markshirley01
      @markshirley01 4 роки тому

      @@theothervalentin is it even better if you leave standard ibis on.

  • @SnapKnowledgeOfficials
    @SnapKnowledgeOfficials 3 роки тому

    is it possible to export without downgrading the footage from catalyst browse ?

  • @joaquinsuico29
    @joaquinsuico29 4 роки тому +1

    Just WOW! I really need stabilization, when I try to record someone indoors I end up holding my breath for a while but worth it XD

  • @NafisAhmed73
    @NafisAhmed73 3 роки тому +1

    Does the gyro stabilization works with non-sony lenses? Like sigma or tamron?

    • @huyked
      @huyked 2 роки тому

      I believe so.

  •  4 роки тому

    Whou Catalyst Browse isn't a gyroscope-data-stabilizer? it really depends on how "sharp" image really is?

  • @aanoshmathew1547
    @aanoshmathew1547 4 роки тому +1

    Does a6400 work with catalyst or IBIS

  • @hsnlens
    @hsnlens 4 роки тому

    Hi plz What is the codec I have to use it? Must be XAVC-I ?

  • @alejandrocampollo
    @alejandrocampollo 3 роки тому

    when you use catalyst browse you and export after stabilizing, you lose the 10bit data right?

  • @ZachMeissner
    @ZachMeissner 4 роки тому +1

    Do you have to use Sony glass to stabilize in Catalyst?

    • @Quantdummy
      @Quantdummy 3 роки тому +1

      Looking for same answer, what about manual lenses?

  • @ImTweeZy
    @ImTweeZy 3 роки тому

    Hello do you know if it's possible to use this feature in slowmotion ? If yes, how ?

  • @errishumain
    @errishumain 3 роки тому

    ok for catalyst. Still, the software has to deign to work without crashing on osx ...

  • @MM-le6rt
    @MM-le6rt 4 роки тому +1

    Hi, I downloaded this application but the stabilization icon is inactive, I was looking for different options but it is still off, do you know what's going on?

    • @SidneyDiongzon
      @SidneyDiongzon  4 роки тому +1

      Not all Sony cameras are supported

    • @MM-le6rt
      @MM-le6rt 4 роки тому

      @@SidneyDiongzon
      Thank you for the answer, I use A7SII A6500 for these models does this option work ??

    • @SidneyDiongzon
      @SidneyDiongzon  4 роки тому +1

      No, those cameras will not work because they don’t have gyro data

  • @adventure2733
    @adventure2733 3 роки тому +1

    I used the Catalyst Browse and found out the export file is compressed somehow and show banding artifacts in the sky. The Slog3Cine3 original file no problem. Any comments with this problem? Thanks!

    • @mirrorlessny
      @mirrorlessny 3 роки тому +2

      I watched another UA-camr's a7siii ibis test & he mentioned something about quality degradation when processing gyro catalyst, need to find that video again to verify

    • @sandeepraiphotography2111
      @sandeepraiphotography2111 3 роки тому +1

      @@mirrorlessny I lose a lot of quality. Enough that it’s not usable on many occasions.

    • @mirrorlessny
      @mirrorlessny 3 роки тому +1

      @@sandeepraiphotography2111 sounds realistic, maybe that's why I'm hesitant to try gyro, besides active ibis is pretty good.

    • @sandeepraiphotography2111
      @sandeepraiphotography2111 3 роки тому +1

      @@mirrorlessny the only time it worked was when I was shooting on P mode last time. Even then, shutter speed was jumping around and really high but was okay on catalyst browse. Have since tried on manual and no luck. Footage quality is really bad I have to say but I don’t see anyone mention that much on UA-cam. Not going to risk on gyro. It has been a frustrating day today because half day shooting and come home to not being able to stabilise without losing quality. 🤦🏻‍♂️ luckily I was only testing it out again today.

    • @mirrorlessny
      @mirrorlessny 3 роки тому +1

      @@sandeepraiphotography2111 lucky yea, good to test first,,, it's probably not mentioned much because of low topic popularity & increased difficulty needed to get good results.

  • @dwmspace
    @dwmspace 4 роки тому +1

    Great comparison! Is the “active” stabilization a new feature not found in cameras like the a7 III and a7R IV? They just have “standard” aka IBIS without crop?

    • @SidneyDiongzon
      @SidneyDiongzon  4 роки тому

      No, only select cameras have Active Stabilization

  • @vincechook
    @vincechook 3 роки тому

    Great video, may I ask whether you have any issue using Catalyst Browse on 10-bit 4:2:2 files?

  • @thegoodninja
    @thegoodninja 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the video. When I record in a slower frame rate like 60 or 120 and playback the video it always plays back in normal speed. This is incredibly annoying when I'm trying to record slow motion footage and need to check it to make sure I'm getting the shot I want, but since it won't play back in the slow motion frame rate I can't really watch it back the way I need to.
    Have you had this issue with the a7s3?

  • @AjaySingh-228
    @AjaySingh-228 4 роки тому +1

    wow amazing camera..i love it..one day i will buy it

  • @katseazzz
    @katseazzz 3 роки тому

    does the stabillization feature of catalyst works with the M1 mac 8gb model?

  • @virtualfitnesstv
    @virtualfitnesstv 3 роки тому

    Hey Sidney, I like the C browse a lot ,but no matter what setting i do the icon for being able to stable it is not there ,is the a7 3 i have ,any idea what i do wrong

  • @ralphbarnett3322
    @ralphbarnett3322 4 роки тому +1

    Great tips Sid. Can you stabalise footage shot at 100fps? I can't seem to do this in Catalyst yet. My footage doesn't appear to have giro data. Works fines shooting 50p though.

    • @D3LANYO22
      @D3LANYO22 Рік тому

      no it doesn't work on 120fps

  • @OGtalks
    @OGtalks 4 роки тому

    Doesn’t catalyst browse take ages to import ?

  • @alejandrocampollo
    @alejandrocampollo 3 роки тому

    When I export from catalyst I lose all color data, when I color grade it looks so bad! :( tried to use native settings that the shots were shot with

  • @jinming1543
    @jinming1543 4 роки тому

    great video! I'm wondering does it support bulk stabilization on multiple files? like... um.. set a global crop rate, then stabilize multiple files and export them automatically with just a few clicks?

    • @markr041
      @markr041 4 роки тому

      No. One at a time.

  • @alanchen2540
    @alanchen2540 4 роки тому

    Could Catalyst read S Log files? Or I have to turn off the picture profile? Sorry if it's a dumb question since first got into SONY's world.

  • @Laygtraveller
    @Laygtraveller 3 роки тому

    Catalyst browse only consistently works for 24fps. So if you want to be sure it works, dont shoot in 60fps and 120fps !

  • @agentjtravel_walkthru4205
    @agentjtravel_walkthru4205 4 роки тому +1

    Think Catalyst is an awesome program, I wish I had the gyro data on the A6600 😭😭

  • @bonishikawa9495
    @bonishikawa9495 3 роки тому

    Very good video! By the way Catalyst does not work 120p for my a7s3. Am I missing something?

    • @david.stachon
      @david.stachon 3 роки тому

      Your footage must be shot without stabilization (in camera) in order for catalyst browse to work.

    • @bonishikawa9495
      @bonishikawa9495 3 роки тому

      @@david.stachon I just found that the newest Catalyst browse does not support 120p. I think you tested the old version but no wonder this was made 2 OCT.

  • @PranayKapoor
    @PranayKapoor 4 роки тому +1

    Does 6600 works with catalyst?

  • @frankfeng2701
    @frankfeng2701 4 роки тому

    Can CB import 4k60p or 4k120 footage and export it the same frame rate and quality?

  • @tayloralexander4332
    @tayloralexander4332 4 роки тому +1

    does catalyst browse stabilization work with 120fps footage?

  • @Madnug2004
    @Madnug2004 3 роки тому

    Awesome review! Thanks

  • @miguelflores7880
    @miguelflores7880 4 роки тому +1

    Is catalyst browse free?

  • @MrSarahqputra
    @MrSarahqputra 3 роки тому

    Hi, can a6400 file stabilize in catalyst browse?

  • @PaulFeinberg
    @PaulFeinberg 4 роки тому +1

    No notification this time around....oh well 🤣🤣🤣 I am here

    • @SidneyDiongzon
      @SidneyDiongzon  4 роки тому

      UA-cam COME ON!!! Thanks for watching though :)

  • @Mikepraba
    @Mikepraba 4 роки тому

    Does anyone or the author know tamaron lenses (especially 26-75mm) work for stabilization in Catalyst browse? Camera Sony a7siii

    • @ahmedreads1794
      @ahmedreads1794 4 роки тому +1

      Catalyst works with any lens. You just have to turn off active IBIS

    • @markshirley01
      @markshirley01 4 роки тому

      There are some manual focus lenses that lack certain contacts that do not work.

  • @BryanElliott_
    @BryanElliott_ 3 роки тому

    Thanks bro just got the fx3

  • @adithyanrsmusical7837
    @adithyanrsmusical7837 4 роки тому +1

    Again left online science class to watch this 🤣

    • @SidneyDiongzon
      @SidneyDiongzon  4 роки тому

      Haha! Go back to class...and thanks for watching :)

  • @sijilo
    @sijilo 4 роки тому +1

    Mostly wiggling hands will get training after holding camera longtime 😅

  • @SuamiLibur
    @SuamiLibur 4 роки тому +1

    Sooo manyyy gear i have to buy.. My gosshhhh LOL..

  • @petrub27
    @petrub27 4 роки тому

    glidecam and gimbals will never be dethroned by a free software that works only with few camera models
    is not like everybody is using sony
    that's not how industry works
    i also think that relying on this software will limit your options by a lot

  • @ttn109
    @ttn109 4 роки тому

    Subscribed!

  • @shtrudel-pu1cm
    @shtrudel-pu1cm 3 роки тому

    bad ibis to all sony's cameras.. the a7siii is poor like the a7iii.

  • @lorenzosorgatz4385
    @lorenzosorgatz4385 4 роки тому +1

    👍😍😍😍