scrooge and marley - dean jones - a christmas carol

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  • @JoanneRachel-m6j
    @JoanneRachel-m6j Рік тому +1

    ❤❤❤ never seen this but anything with dean jones is amazing

  • @charleswhite-ov2gi
    @charleswhite-ov2gi Рік тому

    First time seeing this adaption of Dicken's Christmas Carol. Always like seeing Dean Jones in the movies. Many thanks Ziel Online.

  • @alexandraasbury9974
    @alexandraasbury9974 4 роки тому +11

    For all those who upsettedly say this is a departure from "Scrooge"/"Christmas Carol" (and I agree it is to a certain extent in one particular way). But, first, how many of you have seen the 1970 version named Scrooge with Albert Finney (a fine British actor) where the unrepentant miser actually goes to hell? This story's just telling you how he got there. It wasn't directly because of his lack of kindness but because he had no savior who could deliver him from his sin and the prospect of going to hell. And he was so wretched bcz he had no hope (only money which is nice, but it doesn't do you any good in the very end). He also had no love or concern for others, just lots of Greed.
    And, even though you may have heard it 1000 times, the message of truth never changes: Jesus is the only way to heaven. For no other God has risen from the dead. Afterall, he went to His death, a horrible & violent one, to pay for the sins of the world, saving those who will or now do believe, i.e., put their trust in Him, and not in themselves, before they die, to be saved. Good works mean nothing unless they come from a believer in Jesus Christ, because it's not the works that save. Only the precious blood of Christ will save your soul and keep you from facing judgement. Everyone sins, but Jesus forgives, if only you turn to Him.

    • @pegfrey6038
      @pegfrey6038 3 роки тому +3

      Thank you, Alexandra… God bless you🙏🏼💞🙌🏼

    • @mattdragoneed6476
      @mattdragoneed6476 2 роки тому +2

      But even 1970's Scrooge was closer to the " I need a saviour" message than this abomination

  • @colonelkurtz2269
    @colonelkurtz2269 Рік тому +2

    On Christmas day a child would be born who would change the world..........
    Happy Birthday Sir Isaac Newton!

  • @giovannirastrelli9821
    @giovannirastrelli9821 5 років тому +15

    Charles Dickens must be spinning in his grave to the point of becoming a small turbine power plant.

  • @axesoccer7887
    @axesoccer7887 4 роки тому +6

    This is just as bad as my nephew’s school rendition of A Christmas Carol. In that version, Cratchit gets paid $15/hr in 1843 ($1.4 million/yr today), key scenes are omitted, Scrooge knows he’s dead prior to going to the grave and the Ghost of Christmas yet to Come has a speaking role.

  • @darrinward8170
    @darrinward8170 7 років тому +11

    Separation of church and state which was the creation of both Thomas Jefferson and the churches, as part of the freedom of religion act was created because of religious persecution . In England at that time the government enforced a single religion on the people and refused it's people the right to worship as he/she chose. To prevent the US government from doing the same, the freedom of religion act was created along with separation of church from state. Meaning ...every man or woman would have the right to worship as they saw fit "WITHOUT GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE " provided that religion followed the Constitution and the Bill of Rights..in short....THE LAWS OF THE LAND. It was not created to prevent religious practice in the public square..It was made to protect that right!

    • @giovannirastrelli9821
      @giovannirastrelli9821 5 років тому +2

      Darrin Ward It’s still a piece of shit movie and a perversion of Charles Dickens’ original text.

    • @Paulscottrock
      @Paulscottrock 4 роки тому

      This is a silly propaganda movie trying to argue against a he power of separation

    • @epaddon
      @epaddon 2 роки тому +1

      @@giovannirastrelli9821 You are evidently unfamiliar with the totality of the text. Perhaps you should ask the same question Marley does in the original. "Why did I walk through crowds of fellow-beings with my eyes turned down, and never raise them to that blessed Star which led the Wise Men to a poor abode!"

    • @mattdragoneed6476
      @mattdragoneed6476 2 роки тому

      @@epaddon yeah it was because both Marley and Scrooge cared for money and didn't care for love, kindness or generosity....
      Scrooge here.... What the Hell is this ????! I get why one should want to celebrate Christmas or anything else without government's interference or without having problems but in the original Scrooge hated Christmas because he thought it was a loss of time and money , he was a man of worldly mind, a materialist..
      He deeply wanted love but he was a flawed man and couldn't see how his clerk or his nephew loved him. Yet when he saw their love and he saw how he could save Tiny Tim from his ugly fate and bring happiness he did it !!!! He made his peace with God and tried and managed to be a better man, he found Salvation...
      Scrooge here is a religion hater , a man who hates Christianity so much he fights to end a celebration of love and kindness for ever and uses something which was meant to help people in his blind rage ....
      So yeah a total perversion of Dickens'play and an insult to both Christianity and atheism...
      Scrooge here finds religion and kindness but he seriously misses the whole point ....

  • @siewbergeron8014
    @siewbergeron8014 3 роки тому +3

    Dean Jones stars as Ebenezer Scrooge

  • @berthalloway9953
    @berthalloway9953 3 роки тому +2

    I love it. Very different.

  • @michaelclendenen4005
    @michaelclendenen4005 3 роки тому +2

    I'm good with anything Christmas 🎄

  • @alexandraasbury9974
    @alexandraasbury9974 4 роки тому +7

    Jesus truly IS the reason for the season. So thanks, ziel online. I've never seen this before. I was looking for various airings of the many adaptions of Dickens' Christmas Carol and/or Scrooge which aren't all that easy to find. Wasn't expecting this. And I believe it makes a point about denying God!! Not a good idea. He loves us but He hates sin. It hurts Him AND it hurts others and if not right away, then, later, it'll hurt us, ourselves.Yet He forgives it thru His Son and the cross. A great reason for one to want Jesus Christ & His forgiveness in their life. Btw, I like the woman's voice who narrated. Sounds a bit familiar.

  • @sammythompson3694
    @sammythompson3694 Рік тому

    The newest Christmas Carol movie will be so short that it will be an advert on utube.

  • @glenniamilonich5996
    @glenniamilonich5996 5 років тому +3

    Beautiful pwerful message. PRAISE THE LORD.👼🏼👼🏼👼🏼👏👏👏👏

    • @giovannirastrelli9821
      @giovannirastrelli9821 5 років тому

      Glennia Milonich Go to bed.

    • @glenniamilonich5996
      @glenniamilonich5996 5 років тому

      @@giovannirastrelli9821 the true message of a christmas carol is redemption before its too late. .read the story and mr.dickens autobiography....he 2 served a risen savior...PRAISE GOD.....MERRY CHRISTMAS...JESUS THE REASON FOR THE SEASON👼🏼👼🏼👼🏼🙏

  • @samueljaramillo4221
    @samueljaramillo4221 4 роки тому +1

    I’ve never seen this version if this classic.

  • @janethartwig774
    @janethartwig774 5 років тому +1

    Wonderful film with a perfect message.

  • @siewbergeron8014
    @siewbergeron8014 3 роки тому +3

    There is a God

  • @jays1198
    @jays1198 10 років тому +6

    Heavy-handed in parts, but overall surprisingly well done, and Dean Jones makes a great Scrooge :-) "Jesus is the reason"...

    • @maan0704
      @maan0704 4 роки тому

      Counterpoint:It’s massively biased against atheists. What harm do we do to anyone?

    • @alexandraasbury9974
      @alexandraasbury9974 4 роки тому

      Jay S Very well said, all of what you posted. Exactly my thoughts.

  • @thegloriousmoodman2152
    @thegloriousmoodman2152 7 років тому +5

    very insane mash-up. the producers seem nuts

    • @anesmohamed4538
      @anesmohamed4538 2 роки тому

      قزقتيتسهتسمتيتنبتخنقميزيكزثجنثظمزقفزحنص

  • @tomekasimon350
    @tomekasimon350 4 роки тому

    Thank you all for the comments.not gonna waste my time 🏃‍♂️

  • @michaelbyrne5606
    @michaelbyrne5606 Рік тому

    30:24 OINK
    the defense
    42:53 …honestly the closest in tone this special ever got to Dickens’ text. The realization of wasted joy and self made misery is genuinely moving here. If the rest of this special had this level of commitment it wouldn’t be as haphazardly thrown together.
    RIP Dean. Your Father Tim in Mitford’s radio venture was a far more introspective spiritual figure two years later 🦋

  • @zendingineigenland7464
    @zendingineigenland7464 10 років тому +2

    Hey Allie, what a great coment and testimony.
    it's so good of you that you posted this!!

  • @donnaconn1903
    @donnaconn1903 10 років тому +4

    That was Sad but GOD Forgives YOU Mr. Scrooge He Does Forgive you And He Loves You So much I Go to Church with my Dad At Preter Creek Baptist church It is A Good Church And My Name is ALLIE LOUISE HEAD I'm Only 12 Years old I Live At Banner And You Be Praying and Going to Church tomorrow Okay well God Loves You He Loves You So much Okay

  • @petercsigo9935
    @petercsigo9935 8 років тому +14

    Charles Dickens would not be proud of this interpretation of his Christmas Carol.

    • @trevortrillion6037
      @trevortrillion6037 5 років тому +3

      On the contrary, Dickens WOULD like to have seen references to how social injustices, poor people, health/hospital care, education had improved in the 20th century. Dickens was never opposed to Jesus or Christianity, but only 'organized religion which sought to interpret the Bible's words many times to its own advantage (as discussed with the Ghost of Christmas Present). Several ideas dealt with by Dickens in his novels are also dealt with here in this adaptation.

  • @doomjuan4892
    @doomjuan4892 3 роки тому

    OMG it's the Evil doctor from Beethovan!

  • @meirastone4021
    @meirastone4021 4 роки тому +4

    I appreciate the message but they should have named the movie something else.

  • @roberfaubus3455
    @roberfaubus3455 6 років тому +4

    I can’t see Dean jones do Christmas movie it’s like John Wayne doing musicals.

    • @alexandraasbury9974
      @alexandraasbury9974 4 роки тому

      Then that goes to show how actors get stereo-typed. What a bummer it must be.

  • @susanhorton9492
    @susanhorton9492 3 роки тому +1

    is this full version available somewhere

  • @siewbergeron8014
    @siewbergeron8014 3 роки тому +1

    Jacob Marley have seen God face to face

  • @soulbrotherheuck2603
    @soulbrotherheuck2603 7 років тому +4

    I wish it wasn't so short. But Awesome movie

  • @treymcclure3631
    @treymcclure3631 3 роки тому +1

    no joan of arc

  • @siewbergeron8014
    @siewbergeron8014 3 роки тому +1

    I can rewrite this Charles Dickens Story of The Christmas Carol Dean Jones

  • @siewbergeron8014
    @siewbergeron8014 Рік тому

    Scrooge and Marley

  • @Panwere36
    @Panwere36 8 років тому +4

    Actually, considering the disposition that Scrooge expressed against everything Christmas was about.. I am surprised this is the only one that out and out addressed what he may have really believed. Also, Scrooge manipulated the law to his advantage.. just like groups like the American Atheists do.. so that is dead on.

    • @MossyMozart
      @MossyMozart 5 років тому

      @David Welsh - How do atheists "manipulate[d] the law to [their] advantage"?

    • @alexandraasbury9974
      @alexandraasbury9974 4 роки тому +1

      You have some decent points there.

    • @epaddon
      @epaddon 2 роки тому

      @@MossyMozart Mostly by finding judicial tyrants to validate their bigotry by imposing their bigoted standards on the rest of society because they lack the tolerance in their hearts for things like a Nativity scene in a public square, or hearing an Invocation at a Commencement exercise and even a War memorial in the shape of a cross they take offense to! The list can go on about how anti-Christian bigotry is the one form of religious hatred that is considered acceptable by elites.

  • @PeteMachini6732
    @PeteMachini6732 4 роки тому +8

    This version missed the purpose of the Christmas carol. It's a story about doing good for the less fortunate, not making someone from an atheist to a Christian.

    • @epaddon
      @epaddon 2 роки тому

      I suggest you read the text of the original sometime and remember this line of Marley's (typically left out from all film versions). "Why did I walk through crowds of fellow-beings with my eyes turned down, and never raise them to that blessed Star which led the Wise Men to a poor abode!" And in the text, what is the *first* thing Scrooge does after he leaves his home having repented of his ways? HE GOES TO CHURCH!

    • @PeteMachini6732
      @PeteMachini6732 2 роки тому

      @@epaddon I did read the original text, it has nothing to do with God. You might be reading the wrong book, or your interpretation skills are underdeveloped. Yes Scrooge does go to church, but that isn't the main theme of the story. Stop embarrassing yourself. Have a nice day.

    • @epaddon
      @epaddon 2 роки тому +1

      @@PeteMachini6732 It's part of the story. He didn't go to church beforehand and yet afterwards he goes. The only person embarrassing himself is you, because your bigotry regarding Christian faith makes you have a hissy fit reaction to hearing the actual text quoted back at you.

  • @karenschmocker8711
    @karenschmocker8711 Рік тому +1

    Like every evangelical...this cherry picks history for a few positives and totally ignores all the negatives.

  • @Pebbles13tx
    @Pebbles13tx 4 роки тому +1

    👀 very different

  • @karenschmocker8711
    @karenschmocker8711 Рік тому

    Also its greatest taker of human life. More people died as a result of religion over the centuries than were ever helped and Roman Catholicism keeps women in chains. The world would be a better place and far less crazy.

  • @jeprice08
    @jeprice08 9 років тому +1

    Who elected this guy mayor? It certainly wasn’t me.

  • @siewbergeron8014
    @siewbergeron8014 3 роки тому +1

    Charles Dickens

  • @thatsmyopinion.whatsyours8825
    @thatsmyopinion.whatsyours8825 7 років тому +5

    The person that did the set decorating did an awful job. How many time periods is this suppose to cover !!!!??

    • @maan0704
      @maan0704 4 роки тому +1

      I think that’s the point. It’s a “satire” of both the story and us atheists. Poor and excruciatingly convenient set design.

  • @LvndrHppE2
    @LvndrHppE2 Рік тому

    This was 2001, and they dressed an Asian woman in traditional woman in non-modern clothing and called her “oriental”?

  • @siewbergeron8014
    @siewbergeron8014 3 роки тому +1

    Book

  • @gaycausesoneisparentalnegl309
    @gaycausesoneisparentalnegl309 4 роки тому +2

    Strange show.

    • @alexandraasbury9974
      @alexandraasbury9974 4 роки тому

      Interesting name you have. It's very poignant. And I believe it's correct.

  • @cymballine1
    @cymballine1 8 років тому +5

    It is an abomination, just like this movie is to the original Christmas Carol! I couldn't take more than 5 minutes of it!

  • @mattdragoneed6476
    @mattdragoneed6476 2 роки тому

    Yeah, I don't believe that atheism works like that.... Hell , I am an atheist but I love Jesus' teachings, to love thy neighbor and to try and be kind to every single person no matter their sexuality, creed or homeland... Christians have committed some truly terrible crimes like Crusades or slavery but this is just some believers who say that they are Christians but they give to this faith and these teachings a really bad name !!!!
    This movie for me gets some facts wrong about both Christianity and atheism.... I don't believe in God but I won't try to stop Christmas or even try to destroy a Christian place of belief !!!! Faith is not a gift I have managed to give myself yet but I've seen some truly beautiful Christians or Buddhists or even Muslims ....
    Everyone can believe in everything or in nothing as long as they show respect to other people who find strength, love or spiritual help in faith or in science... Maybe when we finally learn to do this this world will be a better place.....
    But honestly folks this must be my least favourite version of a Christmas Carol surpassed only by an abomination of a film named Carol's Christmas.....

  • @cathyandrews2736
    @cathyandrews2736 5 років тому +6

    Quite possibly the worst version of this story I have ever seen, and I've seen them all. Surprised Dean Jones lowered himself to this type of content, but I guess everyone needs a paycheque.

    • @GESSO217
      @GESSO217 4 роки тому +1

      If you think this is bad, be thankful you haven't watched FX's A Christmas Carol.

    • @pennyboulton9676
      @pennyboulton9676 4 роки тому

      A Diva’s Christmas Carol. A Carol Christmas, Christmas Carol with Albert Finney, and Christmas Carol with Kelsey Grammer. Those are the worst Christmas Carol movies.

  • @MossyMozart
    @MossyMozart 5 років тому

    @ziel online - You may not realize this, but that trite cliche, "Jesus is the reason for the season", is in error. It would be December 25th whether or not Jesus was born or not. It would still be cold and snowy in the Rocky Mountains, hot and dry in the Sahara Desert, and sultry and steaming in Indonesia whether Jesus existed or not. The Winter Solstice would make the season notable, if for no other reason. And how could Jesus have been born on December 25th if shepherds were tending their flocks and lambs?

    • @alexandraasbury9974
      @alexandraasbury9974 4 роки тому +1

      The word Christmas comes from the birth of Christ, hence CHRISTmas. And no one believes that the very first Christmas was necessarily on Dec. 25. In fact, there's a one-hour docu/program that, if I recall, is entitled "The Star of Bethlehem" (I haven't seen it in a while) that stands straight up with science and is quite informative of the real first Christmas researching the very star that is totally backed-up with proof. The details that are found through very old astrological charts, tables, records, and some very driven star-studying taken on by a man who happens to be a lawyer, just about a decade or so ago, show some very compelling evidence of the very star and all the many surprising data that connects with/onto the written Word of God, i.e., the Bible in almost unbelievable ways. It's most convincing to just about anyone, even the skeptics.

  • @mattdragoneed6476
    @mattdragoneed6476 2 роки тому +1

    And by simply saying that if Christianity never existed then everything would be bad or we would have a reign of evil and a living hell is the worst way of saying that people are and always were evil so they needed Jesus to teach them love and kindness....
    I don't know about you but I don't like this very much

  • @siewbergeron8014
    @siewbergeron8014 3 роки тому +1

    1843

  • @oc2phish07
    @oc2phish07 8 років тому +6

    This surely has to be the worst version of the great Dickens Classic ever. And I thought the Kelsey Grammar and Jim Carrey ones were bad. Oh boy.

    • @GhostbustersFan77
      @GhostbustersFan77 8 років тому +1

      Which one is your Favorite?

    • @oc2phish07
      @oc2phish07 8 років тому +4

      George C Scott followed by Patrick Stewart. Two other versions I like are Alastair Sim and The Muppets with Michael Caine. Naturally I accept that 'liking' a particular version is a very personal thing and other folk will hate my choices and really enjoy Kelsey Grammar or any of the others.

    • @MossyMozart
      @MossyMozart 5 років тому +3

      @I'm Iron Man - I agree that Alastair Sims is excellent, but I have a lot of fondness for Reginald Owen and his passel of Lockharts......I mean, Crachits.

    • @KevinBrownjr
      @KevinBrownjr 2 місяці тому

      @@oc2phish07what about Alister Sim or Seymour Hicks?

  • @jwappel7111
    @jwappel7111 2 роки тому

    What an odd adaptation.

  • @vincentferrigno2767
    @vincentferrigno2767 4 роки тому +2

    Disgraceful of a christmas carol.

  • @dfwjac
    @dfwjac 7 років тому +2

    Actually, Jesus was a much later addition. And the war on Christmas WAS real - it was waged by the Puritans, the protestants who came here from England. They outlawed xmas from the 1600's to the 1800's, when much of what we know as xmas was imported from european pagan traditions, with a christian overlay added. You're welcome!
    ua-cam.com/video/D11jAEKgB2o/v-deo.html

    • @alexandraasbury9974
      @alexandraasbury9974 4 роки тому

      Your words are totally bogus. This idea has been debunked, taken from quasi-theory to total lie. You deny the only One who can keep your eternal soul from hell. Once there, a person will have plenty of time for regret. Hope that's not you.

  • @davidcolley7714
    @davidcolley7714 7 років тому +3

    Utter nonsense

  • @BillHalliwell
    @BillHalliwell 3 роки тому +1

    OMGosh!! I'm a retired film and TV critic and I'm glad I am. I'm no longer being paid to watch rubbish like this so I stopped at 11:27. My First Law of Film Reviewing is: Bad films don't get better if they are still bad at 10 minutes. This one, I can promise you, will not get better. Pity, I kind of liked Dean Jones but in straight roles, he never quite pulled comedy off convincingly. The person bringing the law suit against the writer, producers and director of this film should be Charles Dickens, sadly, he not being with us, perhaps his Estate could move to have this version (possibly the worst of the 135 versions [I kid you not]) struck from the record forever. Why oh, why are Scrooge and Marley lawyers? Dickens chose Scrooge's profession as money lender and his grasping greed for money because it is seen as one of the seven deadly sins. As far as I know, being a lawyer is not a sin, however, a certain occupant of 1600 Penn. Ave., may have had that changed in the last four years.
    When one thinks of all the great portrayals of Scrooge; IMHO and that of thousands of others, is that the late, great Alistair Sims's Scrooge is 'Scrooginess' personified; a magnificent performance, in his 1951 black & white UK version. Sadly, it just being in black and white will deter millions of potential Scrooge fans, especially in the US. Albert Finney also did a fantastic Scrooge but, awfully, it was in a musical version that makes one want to pray for death after the 237th song! George C. Scott too, did a great Scrooge, perhaps too well. Besides, all I could see in his Scrooge was George S. Patton out of uniform! Even the early silent version had a better script than this dismal offering. Next year please, do yourself a favour and select a better Scrooge for your holiday viewing pleasure. Cheers, and Happy New Year! BH

    • @giovannirastrelli9821
      @giovannirastrelli9821 3 роки тому

      That’s because this isn’t a real film, it was originally broadcast as an infomercial to sell religious pamphlets.

    • @BillHalliwell
      @BillHalliwell 3 роки тому

      @@giovannirastrelli9821 Doesn’t really matter; it’s still rubbish.

  • @stevendaniel8126
    @stevendaniel8126 Рік тому

    The worst version I've ever seen......

  • @thewrighttime1
    @thewrighttime1 9 років тому

    at wat school and in wat yeers was this jones guy a dean? I dunt no wat movie yu guys ar talking about bcuz this won is a meen skarry movie abot a lawyer in like the 60's. thet hates efery budy. cud not watch it awl. must be a holoween movie

    • @jeprice08
      @jeprice08 9 років тому +4

      +tom wright It's a joke, right? I mean the way you spell almost every single word incorrectly. I mean, it's got to be a joke, right? LOL! Dean's his first name. He's an actor famous for doing Disney films like That Darn Cat and The Love Bug.

    • @thewrighttime1
      @thewrighttime1 9 років тому

      +Keith Evers thanc yu but eye doent watsch kat & bug duckumentary muvys. whaht skool was he at? in Amerika?

    • @jeprice08
      @jeprice08 9 років тому

      tom wright If you meant Coral Ridge, it said it was in Florida.

    • @thewrighttime1
      @thewrighttime1 9 років тому

      +Keith Evers ok dean jones of Florida. thanc yuI am luukin at skool for neffyu. is it old lik muvy

    • @jeprice08
      @jeprice08 9 років тому +2

      tom wright Go to this address: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Jones_(actor) This will tell you all about him. The film (or "muvy" as you call it, it's really spelled "movie," but you probably already know that) was released to television in the year 2001. As far as your nephew, I mean "neffyu," goes, I hope you can find him a school that can not only teach him what he needs to know, but a school that he can be happy to attend, not to mention, affordable.

  • @Paulscottrock
    @Paulscottrock 4 роки тому +1

    This is an abomination . The producer took a classic story and twisted it into a offensive religious perversion . I’m sure it is intended for showing to young impressionable people for the purpose of fooling them with mythology . The separation of church and state is the n the constitution for a very good reason . This film is spreader no lies . It’s cheapening a classic American folk tale . The Christmas carol was created in 1822 . It was where Americans learned that the meaning of Christmas was sharing and caring about each other . Not for religious reasons . There’s really no religious reason for Christmas . The church just used the holiday to get some attention . The Bible does not mention a birth date for Jesus .