@@alqk3415 You are wrong. They aren't ending "our lives" this "guy" ain't one of us. He is lower than a wild animal, at least when they kill it's usally for defense or food.
@Adrian You're dehumanizing him because your angry. I just said your anger is justified. State murder isn't, accept during war time and even that is debatable. American law shouldn't degrade any person to the level of an animal and neither should we.
@@alqk3415hypothetically, so if somone walks into your house shoots up the place and kills a member of your family would you just like that person to sit in jail? I don't believe that's justice. Cruz should've been shot on site, and he would've if he didn't run for a micky d lunch break
@@alqk3415 You don't seem to understand that they or I didn't dehumanize or degrade him to the level of an animal. He made that decision himself and I'm not particularly angry but this thing can't function in society and there is no reason for him to be taking up space in a cell and now the he has to deal with the consequences of his actions.
@@CatholicsForTrump It's not revenge numbskull.. People like him need to made an example of. We are too soft on criminals. We need swift and strong punishment NOW.
Her: “Do not let your human emotions interfere with your choice”. Also her: “If you make the wrong choice you will wake up in the middle of the night with feelings of guilt”.
This lawyer is playing the oldest trick in the book .... Playing on the jury's emotions for sympathy for Cruz. Sorry, these children were very important, Cruz needs to get his just rewards.
15 mins in. He lived in a 45 square foot house. Then 45,000 square foot house and lastly 4500 square foot house. She’s right, doesn’t matter. Plenty of people have been homeless and turned their lives around, without mass murdering classmates. Not even going to bother watching the rest.
It's sad that there are many more like him, they have openly told of their plans, yet nothing was done in time to prevent these horrific tragedies! The feds need to pay attention to these REAL issues instead of playing politics! God bless the families who have suffered and lost their children, there's nothing worse, nothing!!!
Gotta love that cops pull over endless amounts of people for going 5 miles over the speed limit, and people who accidentally run a stop sign, but refuse to actually put in the effort to convict murderers
it's not the FEDS, its the community. I mean, the Feds can't be spying on everyone all the time just in case. Parents, neighbors, teachers, friends, familly, and eventually local authorities. It can't be the Feds. Additionally, women should NOT be forced to have children they aren't able to take care of.
To me it’s as simple as that. He chose to do everything he did. There is no way to justify his actions. I don’t care about his childhood. The things he did to plot this attack are inexcusable. Period!
@@WendyDahling3 he was given every opportunity and advantage (from therapists of every kind etc.)to function as a member of society in a decent manner, but he still chose to do what he did. There is zero remorse. He found the whole event exciting and thrilling, that’s absolutely sickening. He never should have been born honestly.
Exactly this whole mass shooting could’ve been prevented had action been taken. The FBI was made aware of the comment he made and with all the trouble past and all run ins with cops he should’ve never been able to purchase guns
What she is conveniently leaving out is the fact that he was attempting to appear insane during the police interrogation. It is posted on UA-cam. I watched it. He is already dead inside no matter what the jury decides. My heart and condolences goes out to all those impacted by the lives lost that day. 💔
@@PrincipalProductions It is obvious without any commentary from the narrator. I didn't say there was anything "official" about it. It certainly was an official interrogation though. Posted for the entire public to view and make their own conclusions.
Why do you think she left it out? Do you think it's maybe because her job is to lessen the sentence on her client rather than to make him look even worse?
To me it’s disgusting how much the defense blames Linda, being that Linda is no longer alive to defend herself. I see her as a loving mom that had not a clue on how to help he troubled sons and tried everything she could to help those boys.
How can you tell she went against. Simply withdrawing without hearing her reasoning for is unfair and biased. She’s not here to explain herself. She might have had no other option but to withdraw of certain treatments for financial reasons. Very different situation but I had surgery recently and my insurance, which is very cheap unfortunately, is no longer approving physical therapy appointments. I cannot afford to pay out of pocket. So my medical record currently states I was discharged from physical therapy because I no longer need it. It’s not true. If you ask me and come check my arm I have about 50% function. I can’t do my day to day activities properly, I still have pain and discomfort. But if you look at the letters from my medical record you wouldn’t think. Or you might ask, well why didn’t you fight to keep going to physical therapy. I am fighting but I’m honestly at the mercy of very cheap insurance company since I cannot afford to go out of my own money. And honestly the only way you would get the full picture would be by talking with me. If I was dead you would think I didn’t need physical therapy, made a good recovery and that’s the end of it.
Linda was addicted to drugs and alcohol. She choice to not receive services not because she couldn't afford it but so she wouldn't be put in prison. She had the government to pay her bills almost 100%.
no he will spent ten years on death row on our taxes dollars the mans died inside already needs a speedy sentence to get him off tv and breathing our air maybe scientist could learn something from him also for having no defence that was there best piont for life wop i think death penalty study him while he waits for his day in the gurnee
Why would they decide to let him live a life in prison he can't even respect the rules in there! He attacked a friggen guard already. He knows right from wrong... No matter how much " Brenda" drank and did drugs while she was pregnant he didn't take one life ( one is 2 many in my opinion) he killed 17 and injured 17! I am for the death penalty in this scenario the parents of the innocent victims deserve some closure to this horrific nightmare
The question here is: Isn't it weird to punish a Person for the same crime he is prosecuted for??? Yes he killed 14 Kids and 3 adults..but USA is the only single Western country that killed pple in the Name of the State.. A Back then 19 year old killed pple and the prosecution is as guilty as Cruz If they urge others (=Jury) to kill him. That is so middle age-y!!!! USA is so shady!
@@janeeagly7293 Yes he is on medication, but he isn't drugged up otherwise they wouldn't be able to hold trial. A defendant is not allowed to be drugged to the extent that they are unable to participate in their own defense. He just does not show remorse full stop.
@@janeeagly7293 Cruz needs more than medication, he needs a conscience and a heart for starters. Murdering 17 people...there is no excuse or medication for those actions.
Anyone who can murder so many children and adults it should automatically make him up for execution. And he's still planning. A mass murder. He doesn't feel anything then for what he's done anything while in jail another mass murder
My heart goes out to all the parents, families and friends. I can't continue to listen to this woman. I understand is her job, but it's too much for me.
@@jeaniegrothause5824 did you hear all what happened to him?? This young man have been to a lot and have a psychological defect, te state mist to be alert and support him.
I hate listening to her, too. She talks like he is such a poor baby that he is what he is becoz of his mom, blah blah blah. I just listened for 3 minutes and I stopped. The prosecutor was right. He knows what is right and wrong. So, he could have made a decision to stop. If he could strategically plan everything, he could have planned to stop.
“Please remember! He would’ve killed more people if he could” ummm why was that part of her argument for not giving him the death penalty? I 100% understand she is doing her job, he has a right to his defense but this was so strange of a closing….use your heart but not your emotions🤔what?
It’s ironic how the defense attorney is pleading for her clients life(obviously because that’s her job) BUT ☝🏽 so were those kids that were killed. He even said he doesn’t want to die WHY SHOULD HE GET WHAT HE WANTS?!? Those kids sure didn’t get what they WANTED!!!! No mercy.
You really think that rotting in cell for the next 60-70 years alone because the general population probably already have a hit out on him is more merciful than going to sleep and never waking up again ? I’m not so sure about that one.
@@Tearfaced yea I know about law 😁😄that’s literally what my statement said she has to defend him key word DEFEND DEFENSIVE ATTORNEY, that’s her job Duh!
“Choosing to kill is not an aggravating factor” um, yes, it is? There is a reason planned murder yields harder punishment than unplanned or accidental murder?
I have fostered children and saw failure among failure for the children. It really does break my heart. From the time his mother was arrested while pregnant and not placed in rehab to the people that tried to alert everyone about his behavior. My heart BREAKS for these families, but the state-family services have got to take some ownership of what they didn’t do that could have prevented this.
I keep going back to school principals and administrators who failed to protect the students. Moving him around from one school to another was like assigning an abusive priest to another parish.
His mother was arrested and a drug addict yes. But it’s seems that a lot of people missed that he was adopted from the hospital and didn’t have that type of upbringing. So his birth mother was a drug addict. His MOTHER the lady who adopted him and his brother was not. Also look at his brother who came from the same exact birth mother , he didn’t turn to being a mass shooter bc his birth mother was a drug addict. Let’s be real .
Even she admits “he’d kill more people if he could” … so perhaps I’m missing the point? He murdered so many in cold blood. What if they had fetal alcohol syndrome? What if DCF failed one of his victims, too? Would this lady still feel the same? What makes him special? DCF sadly fails children on a daily basis. I don’t typically lean for the DP, but this guy has no empathy from me. 0. I know plenty who have had worse up bringing than him and they didn’t shoot a school up.
I share your sentiment 100%. In fact, prior to this fiasco, I considered myself against the death penalty. Not so much, anymore. I’m still almost always against it. But I am still utterly baffled and disgusted that he got life. My thoughts are especially for the families of the slain; what a crushing blow that verdict was to them.
It sounds ridiculous to me for the defense to stand there telling the long story of Brenda's life of drugs, still dragging this process on, when this young man took so much pride in announcing his plans days before the murders. End this nonsense already. ALL OF IT!!
Exactly. Also, he has no memory of his birth mom. Other than potentially leaving him with disabilities, in what way could she have possibly affected his behavior?
I am so beyond disgusted and broken for the families. Just broken for them. My heart in pieces. I cannot even begin to imagine their pain. Compassion was called for by this horrible woman. And because of one bleeding heart juror who probably had her mind made up from jump, then persuaded two more to join her side, decided to vote for the most egregious injustice to the victims and survivors and families of the slain, and now Nikolas Cruz gets to grow old in prison, enjoying days filled with books and reading, a tablet with internet access so he can chat with [whatever freaks would want to communicate with such a monster] “friends” and family, walks outside probably at least weekly to feel the heat of the sun’s rays and feel the light, he will eat three meals every day, and he will sleep in a bed with a pillow and blanket every night - all of these are things his 17 victims had taken away from them, no more life experiences for any of them. And painful recoveries and ptsd for 17 wounded and ptsd for the children and teachers who witnessed the massacre that horrible Valentine’s Day. This jury (that juror) should be ASHAMED.
The excuses being made by his lawyer are exactly that, just excuses. He deserves to pay the ultimate price for his actions. HIS ACTIONS. He knew what he was doing. Time to pay.
She threw everything at the wall that she could to see if Anything would stick and Alcohol Fetal Syndrome that came up with was the best she could come up with. The state had the best witnesses in the country. Thank God above that they spared no expense to get the best !!!!
@@-TheRealScubasteve- I missed the first one’s time stamp, but 1:56:10 is the second one, and the third and fourth ones are within about 60 seconds after. Defense attorney is visibly annoyed
Somebody who is brain damaged, and there is a lot of clear evidence here including from experts in the field to say he was brain damaged before he was even born, is not a monster or have you not listened to any of the evidence?
People in prison for life is enough to rid society of them. The death penalty is too expensive. It costs more to put someone to death than stay in prison for life
She tells the jury not judge by emotions.. yet she repeatedly tells them to use their hearts?? Nooo!!! Facts of the case is what they need to judge by.
She herself shows he knew better. She shares he was conflicted when he does internet searches looking at sites that included "getting help." He chose not to get that help but instead remain conflicted and carryout a carefully orchestrated mass murder.
displacing blame. I am 5 min in and I'm so flustered. He took the lives of more than the ones who he killed that day. To blame that on someone else, that's just.......unbelievable
I’m sorry but what he did is exactly what the death penalty was designed for…I don’t care how many people he told about his plan, he’s the one who followed through with it and senselessly killed multiple people for no reason, time for him to face the consequence. Those families won’t be able to visit their loved one in jail like his will. I know his attorney is doing her job but I couldn’t listen to the BS anymore, 15 min in and I’m like yup done!
@@jmadventures9830 No man, Nikolas Cruz was brutal when he killed 16 people for no good reason. Why should tax payers pay to keep him locked up for the rest of his life? He’s undoubtedly guilty of mass murder so why should he live?
@@janicewingfield5245 I watched the Brooks trial too and I agree 💯 he should’ve gotten the death penalty as well. I don’t think the state of Wisconsin has the death penalty tho because it wasn’t even mentioned. But then again Brooks was charged with homicide so not sure if that makes a difference.
He did this with PREMEDITATION- He deserves what he gave to INNOCENTS. His pathology is IRRELEVANT. He KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING. Death… slow & Painful, just how he DELIVERED THESE MURDERS.
If there is going to be a death penalty, this is the justification for it. If you don't think this is the right case for it, you don't think it should exist at all.
@@sadem1045 I guess the point of my comment was, someone with a similar viewpoint clearly lied in order to get on this jury. As the death penalty is law, and this case provides justification for it, and none of the mitigating factors rose to the level to prevent it (as read on the jury forms), at least one juror made an ideological stand.
@Todd Moore Then I'm happy they lied. The death penalty is murder. Also, a death sentence would have hurt his siblings because they would have been forced to grieve like the victims' loved ones. I truly wonder if anyone sitting in that courtroom (minus the defense and jury) considered that. Btw, I know that Nicholas Cruz is guilty and that he was of sound-ish mind when he decided to kill people. I also have unlimited compassion for the victims' loved ones. The world does not need any more pain.
NC had anger and emotion and revenge. He killed all those people mostly children. But he had no regrets about killing them. And no regrets about making the families suffer. He even said that in his video. Nobody should give him a pass.
In his video he hadn't killed anyone yet though! I bet he had regrets once he had done it. And actually this lawyer said 3 years ago that he had shown remorse, guilt and sadness over his actions
He never gave those students a chance when they pleaded for their lives and he has crossed that line where you say make him suffer in jail. He should forfeit his life as he has no remorse for what he did to those children and the suffering that the families will live with from now on.
Yup ..you know that inmates are watching thos case ..and child murderers don't do well in prison and that's a fact esp if Amy incarcerated knew of parkland
it really makes me mad that the defense is trying to blame everything on FASD I personally have FASD and this case is hitting hard this entire thing could've been prevented if people actually took the things about violence real and tried to get him actual help
Glad you mentioned this. As you said, that was Cruz’ defense. I’m convinced he has FASD. I don’t know how the jury will weigh this as a mitigating factor.
I have a nephew with mental disorders, and is extremely violent. They are in Jacksonville FL. We the family try everything to get him help. $2000.00 dollars a day for incare stays is unreasonable as insurance only covers 59 days depending on the facility. He plays sweet while in there but once out he is violent again. The law has allowed him time and time again to beat on people and if we defend ourselves we are charged with DV and he faces no charges are responsibility. This is in Jacksonville. Thanks to that he now knows no one can touch him and brags about it. He has been emboldened by it. He knows right from wrong, but why should he act right when he knows he can get away with it? The system is failing everyone in these situations. AND IS REALLY FAILING THE VICTIMS OF THESE VIOLENT OFFENDERS
@@Schattenkind. we don’t know for sure. There were 2 witnesses that said she was drinking heavily and a drug addict, her daughter and the woman that worked with her on the streets. Even if FASD was a part of it does make him less responsible for his actions? I haven’t watched enough of the trial to know that.
I love it how many seemingly ignorant people in the comments section who seem BEWILDERED that his own lawyer, who was appointed by the state to represent him, dares to explain his actions to lessen his sentence. It's as if they stumbled on a video of a trial for the first time and have never heard of due process.
Literally true it’s their job I didn’t agree with how they acted sometimes tho at all it was disgusting but this part is just what comes with it to get their paycheques
Which human has the right to decide wo should live or who should die? ... Horrible what he has done... He had needed erly treatment. System failed. Killing him won't bring back the lives of the 17 people. And won't change the parents grief.
Now I see why the parents were so angry with the defense. When she mentioned the jury only got a clip of the phone call she suggested that there was something more in it that could have helped the defense. But the defense could have easily played the whole call on rebuttal. She kept repeating “because it was the right thing to do” to introduce guilty conscious . All they needed was one jury member to hold out and if they did they would be so “courageous and moral.”
If you choose to kill your choosing to die. We need the death penalty for people who choose to kill. Why should we support him for the rest of his life.
Shame on you. Whatever you may feel about all of this, lawyers such as this one are an important part of why we have a fair and just judicial system in this country overall. Perhaps you'd rather we go to a system as seen in other countries where people can be sentenced to death with no defense or trial because they showed too much skin..
You are disgusted with her? Why? No, please explain seeing as you took the time to comment why don't you elaborate for us? She hasn't done anything other than defend her client (one which she might not have had any say in). You are an ignorant person.
Some of the best defense attorney's are Public Defenders. You won't see them unless it's a serious case. Otherwise it's a crap-shoot who you get for a non-Capital case.
@erica. Being a criminologist, there is some skewed perception in your thoughts about the sytem. His PD would not mention something not relevant in a capital offense closing argument. It's not mitigating! If it was of value, it would have come in somewhere in the beginning.
Are there no facilities that can keep and counsel a kid who sits on the toilet with a knife repeatedly slashing the drywall and destroying the house? He obviously needed long term supervision and counseling. Why do people like this keep falling through the cracks?
Imagine how stressed his fairly elderly mother would have felt! I've been married to a husband like this and it zaps all your energy. Even the energy to act!
Like it or not, she made a very powerful closing statement. She only needs to convince 1 juror to give him life. I don't know what any of them are really thinking because they saw horrific video that we didn't see. They walked that school that has never been altered in any way since the horrible massacre that Nikolas Cruz unleashed on them. It could go either way.
There are a lot of people out there who would never consider the death penalty and consider it wrong no matter what. These people are often weened out in jury selection, but that isn’t a fool-proof process. Personally, I hope it’s unanimous death sentence, but I respect the process.
Her closing statement was nothing short of incredible. She didn't miss a beat. I see lots of people here laughing at her and calling her a terrible attorney but she is an absolute gun. She is sensitive, empathetic, and real all while representing this monster and that is something not many people could do.
He was so broken and brain damaged, enough to orchestrate, plan and execute the murder of 17 ppl and injure 17 others, but too broken and brain damaged to accept the consequences that comes with committing such a crime, he is completely culpable, the commission of the crime required substantial planning, premeditation, he killed multiple victims and endangered the lives of many other people, those are the requirements to justify the death penalty. The crime was heinous and he shows no remorse. He should definitely meet sparky. I wonder what side she would be on if her family members were victims of his crime.
It's a win-win for law-abiding citizens: Life sentence: 50-60 years of rotting in a cell separated from the general inmate population. No family support except the one brother who did not testify on Nicolas' behalf during the trial. Death Penalty: Death! And being on death row will be horrendous for the next 10 or 20 years.
@@moldytaco The sister isn't in any position to be able to support him. Also, she hasn't seen him since he was an infant. There's no connection there as far as I can tell. I did see her testimony. That mother of theirs was a real POS for subjecting her daughter to such a horrible life.
@@lotanowo omg yes. It stopped for no reason at 1:44:48. After watching Darrell Owens (not what he identifies by), this is such sweet symphony. I mean, she's essentially lobbying to pack prisons with the mentally ill that USA refuses to care for so as to line the pockets of private incarceration facilities, but, the way that she blames the drug dependent so coherently! Chef's kiss!
But he certainly did have control over choosing to murder innocent people. He knew exactly what he was doing. He knew right from wrong. He planned it. This lady is out of her mind. Asking for mercy for a person who had/has zero regard for human life.
I watched almost the entire thing yesterday. I have noticed that the judge was not careful with the pictures. At the very beginning. She can't show such thing on camera. Second, I thought that the defense did well. It is a hard job, but OMG, they have an attitude. You can tell that the blond women hates the judge. The dark hair lady, from the defense, in the corner, also has an attitude. The judge said something and that woman said "I don't care about that". The judge made an effort not to hurt their feelings. You could tell she was walking on egg shells with them. I like the woman next to Cruz, with curly hair. She is very professional.
Mccniel had a prob with the judge from the getfo because she begged to be let off the case. .judge said no because she wanted to proceed ..mnniel has it out for her from the start
The tone she’s using with the jury is horrible. She’s yelling meanly at them. If I was one of them I would not take kindly to it. She’s utterly terrible.
She's a narcissist who is career-climbing on the bodies of those children. A two hour pedantic and confrontational closing statement? She's despicable.
@@strangerthings8143 Those people saying she is yelling have no clue!!! She deserves an Award but ofcource people who wanted Cruz dead are not going to admit to it of how phenomenal she did her job.
She is skilled, but this case was beyond horrible SO the best would have been a moderate defense, instead of manipulation...NOW everybody hates her...😢
I thought the same! Their efforts of showing he was “broken”, in my opinion, just showed he had every chance to get help but chose to do and be as he pleases. There are a lot of people that wish they had a 1/3 of the help his parents tried to give him.
As of April, Florida has eliminated permanent solitary confinement for death row inmates. Death row inmates can now spend 20 hrs/wk in a day room socializing and watching television, have access to multimedia kiosks, more access to showers, more phone calls to family and six hours weekly of being outdoors. The changes were made as a result of a lawsuit brought by eight inmates claiming inhumane treatment.
Defense attorney would be so much more effective if she memorized her “script” and spoke without “hiding” behind the podium stand. Oh well, it doesn’t matter-she only needs to convince 1 juror.
The interview from JSC where you see him pretending to see things and hear voices is a very telling preface to all of these. It’s difficult not to roll your eyes the whole time she speaks.
@@wheelchairgeek Maybe but I suppose my view is different in totality, I could having a psych degree in my opinion (his body language, the stories and lies cognitively put together, etc then..Boom. Having traumas and depression doesn’t make you crazy and have the desire to shoot it up.
How much longer do these parents have to listen to and suffer? Seeing pictures of their children murdered in COLD BLOOD.Without ANY REMORSE .He sits there trying to look so pitiful and innocent,
If the prosecution had accepted the defence offer of guilty on all charges, with life with no parole, it would have been over in 1 or 2weeks. The howling hoards wanted the death penalty. The defense won...
Well, in the end she did her job. And if I was on that jury knowing myself her words would affect me. Her words about me being personally responsible for that choice. Personally responsible for sending him to death. No matter how horrible I think he is, I would have halted.
Oh the Irony in her argument. I bet those students pleaded for him to spare their life too.
Parents have more strength than all of us viewers put together. I pay homage to all of them
Excellent tribute.
Amen. ❤️
That is true. That parents are amazing
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Yes definitely, I'm feeling sick
Did the SOB spare of the life of those kids no F him.
Everyone's anger here is justified but state murder isn't the answer. Don't give them the power to end our lives.
@@alqk3415 You are wrong. They aren't ending "our lives" this "guy" ain't one of us. He is lower than a wild animal, at least when they kill it's usally for defense or food.
@Adrian You're dehumanizing him because your angry. I just said your anger is justified. State murder isn't, accept during war time and even that is debatable. American law shouldn't degrade any person to the level of an animal and neither should we.
@@alqk3415hypothetically, so if somone walks into your house shoots up the place and kills a member of your family would you just like that person to sit in jail? I don't believe that's justice. Cruz should've been shot on site, and he would've if he didn't run for a micky d lunch break
@@alqk3415 You don't seem to understand that they or I didn't dehumanize or degrade him to the level of an animal. He made that decision himself and I'm not particularly angry but this thing can't function in society and there is no reason for him to be taking up space in a cell and now the he has to deal with the consequences of his actions.
Like when the victims begged for their lives right?
So, revenge? If we take his life we’re no better than him…
That’s why I say hang ‘em high
@@CatholicsForTrump yup
@@CatholicsForTrump It's not revenge numbskull.. People like him need to made an example of. We are too soft on criminals. We need swift and strong punishment NOW.
@@CatholicsForTrump Revenge is doing it without the law.
The face on the parents says it all
They don’t understand that everyone deserves a defense tho
32:31 hate me if you want but that woman’s a fascist! Trying to confiscate guns.
lol, uhh he killed people mercilessly with no remorse and even had a video declaring it. He needs to meet his maker.
Yes I agree
Agreed!!!
Agree 💯
Agreed!
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Her: “Do not let your human emotions interfere with your choice”.
Also her: “If you make the wrong choice you will wake up in the middle of the night with feelings of guilt”.
This lawyer is playing the oldest trick in the book .... Playing on the jury's emotions for sympathy for Cruz. Sorry, these children were very important, Cruz needs to get his just rewards.
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She’s disgusting!!!! Couldn’t stand her from day one!!
@@bubbamaster3116 “feelings” of guilt isn’t an emotion? 🤔WTH is it then? 🙄
@@bubbamaster3116 of course it’s an emotion
15 mins in. He lived in a 45 square foot house. Then 45,000 square foot house and lastly 4500 square foot house. She’s right, doesn’t matter. Plenty of people have been homeless and turned their lives around, without mass murdering classmates. Not even going to bother watching the rest.
If I was sat on the Jury this would have been a perfect time for a Nap 😴😴
It's sad that there are many more like him, they have openly told of their plans, yet nothing was done in time to prevent these horrific tragedies! The feds need to pay attention to these REAL issues instead of playing politics! God bless the families who have suffered and lost their children, there's nothing worse, nothing!!!
Gotta love that cops pull over endless amounts of people for going 5 miles over the speed limit, and people who accidentally run a stop sign, but refuse to actually put in the effort to convict murderers
it's not the FEDS, its the community. I mean, the Feds can't be spying on everyone all the time just in case. Parents, neighbors, teachers, friends, familly, and eventually local authorities. It can't be the Feds. Additionally, women should NOT be forced to have children they aren't able to take care of.
Exactly, politicians need to care more about the children in our schools, than the donations they receive from the gun lobbyists.
@@f9376 So true!!!!
@Justine Jackowicz I'm sure there's a link there
He forfeited his life when he opened fire on those helpless children 😢
To me it’s as simple as that. He chose to do everything he did. There is no way to justify his actions. I don’t care about his childhood. The things he did to plot this attack are inexcusable. Period!
@@WendyDahling3 agree completely.
@@WendyDahling3 he was given every opportunity and advantage (from therapists of every kind etc.)to function as a member of society in a decent manner, but he still chose to do what he did. There is zero remorse. He found the whole event exciting and thrilling, that’s absolutely sickening. He never should have been born honestly.
@@river8760 I agree with your statement 150%.
@@river8760 I agree. Given the chance he’d do it all over again.
the blonde defense attorney is so confrontational and dislikable that its hard to not want her to lose
It's very sad when this happens, but worse when it could have been stopped . The school social worker tried, screamed for help! Nobody listened!
Nobody who? And what could they have done, mr genius?
Exactly this whole mass shooting could’ve been prevented had action been taken. The FBI was made aware of the comment he made and with all the trouble past and all run ins with cops he should’ve never been able to purchase guns
What she is conveniently leaving out is the fact that he was attempting to appear insane during the police interrogation. It is posted on UA-cam. I watched it. He is already dead inside no matter what the jury decides. My heart and condolences goes out to all those impacted by the lives lost that day. 💔
Just because one person made a seemingly official video about how he felt doesn’t mean that was his intention
@@PrincipalProductions It is obvious without any commentary from the narrator. I didn't say there was anything "official" about it. It certainly was an official interrogation though. Posted for the entire public to view and make their own conclusions.
Why do you think she left it out? Do you think it's maybe because her job is to lessen the sentence on her client rather than to make him look even worse?
Be gone, trolls. No attention or relevance will be given here. I said what I said. Not a debate. A statement. The end.
I think he pre-planned to be "insane" as well. I think he is a really evil person. Evil exists man I've seen it. He doesn't deserve a trial.
To me it’s disgusting how much the defense blames Linda, being that Linda is no longer alive to defend herself. I see her as a loving mom that had not a clue on how to help he troubled sons and tried everything she could to help those boys.
Lynda was given plenty of help and resources, she went against that .that's her own fault ..nobody but hers
How can you tell she went against. Simply withdrawing without hearing her reasoning for is unfair and biased. She’s not here to explain herself. She might have had no other option but to withdraw of certain treatments for financial reasons.
Very different situation but I had surgery recently and my insurance, which is very cheap unfortunately, is no longer approving physical therapy appointments. I cannot afford to pay out of pocket. So my medical record currently states I was discharged from physical therapy because I no longer need it. It’s not true. If you ask me and come check my arm I have about 50% function. I can’t do my day to day activities properly, I still have pain and discomfort. But if you look at the letters from my medical record you wouldn’t think. Or you might ask, well why didn’t you fight to keep going to physical therapy. I am fighting but I’m honestly at the mercy of very cheap insurance company since I cannot afford to go out of my own money. And honestly the only way you would get the full picture would be by talking with me. If I was dead you would think I didn’t need physical therapy, made a good recovery and that’s the end of it.
Lynda Cruz was the ADOPTIVE MOM! Brenda Woodard was the BIOLOGICAL MOTHER who did drugs while pregnant!
Who cares, there is no explanation for her behaviour. And He has to live with this brain damage and his mental illness because of her..
Linda was addicted to drugs and alcohol. She choice to not receive services not because she couldn't afford it but so she wouldn't be put in prison. She had the government to pay her bills almost 100%.
He is more than likely going to get brutally "unalived" in prison anyway after this case de escalates...
Yes, I doubt he’ll get the death penalty but he’ll meet his fate in general population.
no he will spent ten years on death row on our taxes dollars the mans died inside already needs a speedy sentence to get him off tv and breathing our air maybe scientist could learn something from him also for having no defence that was there best piont for life wop i think death penalty study him while he waits for his day in the gurnee
We can only hope!!!
Nah he’ll just be in isolation and given special treatment like the Aurora dude. With our tax money
It's not the movies. He'll be fine.
“You have a choice to end an entire life, even the good parts” like what choice did he make during being in school?
Why would they decide to let him live a life in prison he can't even respect the rules in there! He attacked a friggen guard already. He knows right from wrong... No matter how much " Brenda" drank and did drugs while she was pregnant he didn't take one life ( one is 2 many in my opinion) he killed 17 and injured 17! I am for the death penalty in this scenario the parents of the innocent victims deserve some closure to this horrific nightmare
Plus the trauma he let into survivors and family lives too - it’s absolutely no excuse to go on to cold calculating massacre innocent people …ever
Thats not gonna give them closure
The question here is:
Isn't it weird to punish a Person for the same crime he is prosecuted for??? Yes he killed 14 Kids and 3 adults..but USA is the only single Western country that killed pple in the Name of the State.. A Back then 19 year old killed pple and the prosecution is as guilty as Cruz If they urge others (=Jury) to kill him. That is so middle age-y!!!! USA is so shady!
Thank God you're not on the jury. Death penalty doesn't fix anything for anyone!
@@lizbehrakis Ikr!
As nicholas cruz sits there ....sheds not one tear for his sins ...no remorse....
No remorse ever ...none.
Well he is taking medication that won't allow him to show emotion.
@@janeeagly7293 Yes he is on medication, but he isn't drugged up otherwise they wouldn't be able to hold trial. A defendant is not allowed to be drugged to the extent that they are unable to participate in their own defense. He just does not show remorse full stop.
@@janeeagly7293 Cruz needs more than medication, he needs a conscience and a heart for starters. Murdering 17 people...there is no excuse or medication for those actions.
ya, the whole point, he lacks capacity and breadth of human emotion. damaged
The people he killed didn't get a choice so why should he
The worst of the worst is any person who murders their Neighbors for nothing.
Begins with "Do not make a decision based on emotion..." Ends with, "use your heart and your soul to decide, it is a personal decision..."
How would that lawyer feel if that was her child that was murdered I feal for the parents
Me too.b
She just needs to turn around and look those parents in the eyes
Your comment is exactly what I was thinking.. bet it would be a different story then, if it was her child's life that was taken by Cruz.
She's not saying he should go free. This is about sitting in a cell for life, or dying.
Anyone who can murder so many children and adults it should automatically make him up for execution. And he's still planning. A mass murder. He doesn't feel anything then for what he's done anything while in jail another mass murder
Who among us is NOT BROKEN? He made a choice/ now his consequences…..
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there are many levels of broken
would you like to pull the trigger on him yourself?
@@heidibeilstein6459 levels? Who are you to say? A prophet? 😂
Some people don't believe in personal responsibility. For example, some people only blame the system, and never themselves.
My heart goes out to all the parents, families and friends. I can't continue to listen to this woman. I understand is her job, but it's too much for me.
Yet you listened to every word.
I don't think his mother taking drugs has anything to do with him being a mass murderer! He just wanted to make a name for himself! So why caddle him?
@@crymeariver5470 She could've just listened for a few minutes then commented, like I am doing right now.. You assume too much 🙄
@@jeaniegrothause5824 did you hear all what happened to him?? This young man have been to a lot and have a psychological defect, te state mist to be alert and support him.
She's very good actually
I can’t tolerate listening to her. Let me know when this goes to the jury.
Nor I I hate hearing her.
I hate listening to her, too. She talks like he is such a poor baby that he is what he is becoz of his mom, blah blah blah. I just listened for 3 minutes and I stopped.
The prosecutor was right. He knows what is right and wrong. So, he could have made a decision to stop. If he could strategically plan everything, he could have planned to stop.
She talks about his life, and how he has been seen as a non-person by everyone his hole life.
It's going to the jury.
“Please remember! He would’ve killed more people if he could” ummm why was that part of her argument for not giving him the death penalty? I 100% understand she is doing her job, he has a right to his defense but this was so strange of a closing….use your heart but not your emotions🤔what?
And with that she nailed prosecution because she said " could" making they he was MORE than capable of making rational decisions !!!
Great observation!
Spare his life? Like he spared so many others? Sure, Jan.
It’s ironic how the defense attorney is pleading for her clients life(obviously because that’s her job)
BUT ☝🏽 so were those kids that were killed.
He even said he doesn’t want to die WHY SHOULD HE GET WHAT HE WANTS?!? Those kids sure didn’t get what they WANTED!!!!
No mercy.
💯I totally agree
You really think that rotting in cell for the next 60-70 years alone because the general population probably already have a hit out on him is more merciful than going to sleep and never waking up again ? I’m not so sure about that one.
Death, the sooner the better
Lol do you not know about law? They have to defend him or there’s no trial😂
@@Tearfaced yea I know about law 😁😄that’s literally what my statement said she has to defend him key word DEFEND DEFENSIVE ATTORNEY, that’s her job
Duh!
“Choosing to kill is not an aggravating factor” um, yes, it is? There is a reason planned murder yields harder punishment than unplanned or accidental murder?
They have him looking like Harry Potter. 🤦🏻♀️
Also don’t call him a “kid”!
I have fostered children and saw failure among failure for the children. It really does break my heart. From the time his mother was arrested while pregnant and not placed in rehab to the people that tried to alert everyone about his behavior. My heart BREAKS for these families, but the state-family services have got to take some ownership of what they didn’t do that could have prevented this.
Wanted to add I am good with whatever the jury gives him but the question after should be: what was missed, what was ignored, what could be changed.
I keep going back to school principals and administrators who failed to protect the students. Moving him around from one school to another was like assigning an abusive priest to another parish.
Yep, there's enough blame to go around.
COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT TO THE SENTENCE HE DESERVED.
His mother was arrested and a drug addict yes. But it’s seems that a lot of people missed that he was adopted from the hospital and didn’t have that type of upbringing. So his birth mother was a drug addict. His MOTHER the lady who adopted him and his brother was not. Also look at his brother who came from the same exact birth mother , he didn’t turn to being a mass shooter bc his birth mother was a drug addict. Let’s be real .
Even she admits “he’d kill more people if he could” … so perhaps I’m missing the point? He murdered so many in cold blood. What if they had fetal alcohol syndrome? What if DCF failed one of his victims, too? Would this lady still feel the same? What makes him special? DCF sadly fails children on a daily basis. I don’t typically lean for the DP, but this guy has no empathy from me. 0. I know plenty who have had worse up bringing than him and they didn’t shoot a school up.
I was just saying that gives me all the more reason to execute him
I share your sentiment 100%. In fact, prior to this fiasco, I considered myself against the death penalty. Not so much, anymore. I’m still almost always against it. But I am still utterly baffled and disgusted that he got life. My thoughts are especially for the families of the slain; what a crushing blow that verdict was to them.
She is the worst excuse of a lawyer I’ve ever seen or heard.
Which makes her a good lawyer
She’s an awesome lawyer. Just because you don’t agree with her doesn’t mean you should demean her
What are talking about? Nothing can't be further from the truth. She's an excellent lawyer with excellent litigation skills.
@@honoriooseguera4083
She has no integrity. Always angling for an easy way out.
I can deal with her over Mr. Arrogant DA. I have a DA friend, they don't have such a GQ, I'm the man attitude!!!
It sounds ridiculous to me for the defense to stand there telling the long story of Brenda's life of drugs, still dragging this process on, when this young man took so much pride in announcing his plans days before the murders. End this nonsense already. ALL OF IT!!
I agree!!end this,,give those poor parents some justice, such an act
Exactly. Also, he has no memory of his birth mom. Other than potentially leaving him with disabilities, in what way could she have possibly affected his behavior?
The prosecutor didn’t “memorize” his closing! He’s got a brilliant mind and a steel-trap memory! Her statement diminished his talent and compassion.
I agree, the prosecutor did an amazing job. I wish to be 80 years old and still have such a great memory.
the FBI FAILED THESE PEOPLE!!!!
Man Cruz gave so many many red flags and warnings signs.
Everyone did in a way.
Spare his life?? Really? Did he spare the lives of innocent people he killed? Nope. Death penalty for him. Set an example already
Absolutely.
I agree
💯!!!!
I am so beyond disgusted and broken for the families. Just broken for them. My heart in pieces. I cannot even begin to imagine their pain. Compassion was called for by this horrible woman. And because of one bleeding heart juror who probably had her mind made up from jump, then persuaded two more to join her side, decided to vote for the most egregious injustice to the victims and survivors and families of the slain, and now Nikolas Cruz gets to grow old in prison, enjoying days filled with books and reading, a tablet with internet access so he can chat with [whatever freaks would want to communicate with such a monster] “friends” and family, walks outside probably at least weekly to feel the heat of the sun’s rays and feel the light, he will eat three meals every day, and he will sleep in a bed with a pillow and blanket every night - all of these are things his 17 victims had taken away from them, no more life experiences for any of them. And painful recoveries and ptsd for 17 wounded and ptsd for the children and teachers who witnessed the massacre that horrible Valentine’s Day.
This jury (that juror) should be ASHAMED.
@@LuckyBooCat there were 3 jurors you clown. and they had the right to vote the way they did.
The excuses being made by his lawyer are exactly that, just excuses. He deserves to pay the ultimate price for his actions. HIS ACTIONS. He knew what he was doing. Time to pay.
She threw everything at the wall that she could to see if Anything would stick and Alcohol Fetal Syndrome that came up with was the best she could come up with. The state had the best witnesses in the country. Thank God above that they spared no expense to get the best !!!!
Hey sparky
@@chrisbarnard5679 Yes, I would prefer to see him being lit up by old sparky. He does not deserve life of any kind for what he did.
Getting an objection sustained on you closing argument 💥 😅😂
Grounds
@@pharmies 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What was the time stamp? Tried really hard to listen to the whole thing, but I didn’t have it in me. 😂
@@-TheRealScubasteve- I missed the first one’s time stamp, but 1:56:10 is the second one, and the third and fourth ones are within about 60 seconds after. Defense attorney is visibly annoyed
Spare his life….while he went on a killing spree to take the lives of many others?
I know what my decision would be .. thumbs down.Put a rabid dog down
The death penalty exists for a reason ....to rid ourselves of monsters......
It doesn't though because this keeps happening and will happen again
@@pollyanne234 facts
Makes you wonder who the monster is
Somebody who is brain damaged, and there is a lot of clear evidence here including from experts in the field to say he was brain damaged before he was even born, is not a monster or have you not listened to any of the evidence?
People in prison for life is enough to rid society of them. The death penalty is too expensive. It costs more to put someone to death than stay in prison for life
She tells the jury not judge by emotions.. yet she repeatedly tells them to use their hearts?? Nooo!!! Facts of the case is what they need to judge by.
She herself shows he knew better. She shares he was conflicted when he does internet searches looking at sites that included "getting help." He chose not to get that help but instead remain conflicted and carryout a carefully orchestrated mass murder.
displacing blame. I am 5 min in and I'm so flustered. He took the lives of more than the ones who he killed that day. To blame that on someone else, that's just.......unbelievable
She's putting the blame on someone else because that's really the only "defense" she has...I could never see anyone defending Cruz!
@@thisisme3238 I could never be a lawyer. Idk how defense lawyers sleep at night
@@meakahana404 I hear ya! 👍
Its not about getting revenge, its about getting justice for his victims and their families.
@Lea Georgina he's responsible for getting sick. Give him the death penalty just for that, being sick.
What a waste of people’s time and energy.
I’m sorry but what he did is exactly what the death penalty was designed for…I don’t care how many people he told about his plan, he’s the one who followed through with it and senselessly killed multiple people for no reason, time for him to face the consequence. Those families won’t be able to visit their loved one in jail like his will. I know his attorney is doing her job but I couldn’t listen to the BS anymore, 15 min in and I’m like yup done!
Agree with you 100%!!!
homie you brutal
@@jmadventures9830 But he’s honest and on point! Darrell Brooks’ actions are DEFINITELY what the death penalty was designed for!
@@jmadventures9830 No man, Nikolas Cruz was brutal when he killed 16 people for no good reason. Why should tax payers pay to keep him locked up for the rest of his life? He’s undoubtedly guilty of mass murder so why should he live?
@@janicewingfield5245 I watched the Brooks trial too and I agree 💯 he should’ve gotten the death penalty as well. I don’t think the state of Wisconsin has the death penalty tho because it wasn’t even mentioned. But then again Brooks was charged with homicide so not sure if that makes a difference.
I think that he deserves every bit of mercy bestowed to him by the jury that he showed each student he slaughtered.
Absolutely
Exactly.
Yes!
Would you have preferred his siblings grieve him just like the victims' loved ones are grieving them? It's not right.
Umm yep!
2 hours of " don't think about him, think about everyone else " smoke blowing . . .
The longest 2 hours i'll never see back.
I had to stop watching because it was annoying
Public Execution, I need my popcorn
Spare his life? You must be joking 😅
He did this with PREMEDITATION- He deserves what he gave to INNOCENTS. His pathology is IRRELEVANT. He KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING.
Death… slow & Painful, just how he DELIVERED THESE MURDERS.
Exactly. Very true.
If there is going to be a death penalty, this is the justification for it. If you don't think this is the right case for it, you don't think it should exist at all.
I don't think it should exist at all. Life without the possibility of parole needs to be the limit.
@@sadem1045 I guess the point of my comment was, someone with a similar viewpoint clearly lied in order to get on this jury. As the death penalty is law, and this case provides justification for it, and none of the mitigating factors rose to the level to prevent it (as read on the jury forms), at least one juror made an ideological stand.
@Todd Moore Then I'm happy they lied. The death penalty is murder. Also, a death sentence would have hurt his siblings because they would have been forced to grieve like the victims' loved ones. I truly wonder if anyone sitting in that courtroom (minus the defense and jury) considered that. Btw, I know that Nicholas Cruz is guilty and that he was of sound-ish mind when he decided to kill people. I also have unlimited compassion for the victims' loved ones. The world does not need any more pain.
" choosing to kill is not an aggravating factor " even nicholas is like.. what?
NC had anger and emotion and revenge. He killed all those people mostly children. But he had no regrets about killing them. And no regrets about making the families suffer. He even said that in his video. Nobody should give him a pass.
So we should behave like him?
In his video he hadn't killed anyone yet though! I bet he had regrets once he had done it. And actually this lawyer said 3 years ago that he had shown remorse, guilt and sadness over his actions
He shows no remorse at all
None in the least...no remorse. 😥
Show mercy on the victims' family and give the DP
It wouldn’t have solved anything
Don't kill him let him seat there for the rest of his life. All by himself
Nope. That’s a waste of decades worth of taxpayer money.
If he doesn’t get the death penalty, I hope his life is miserable. If he felt bullied at school, good luck in jail!
@@wizardofahhhhhhz 👍
@@wizardofahhhhhhz actually death row costs tax payers more with all the appeals they through
That's not a deterrent.
So guilt trip the audience for him enjoying taking the lives of multiple people huh?
He never gave those students a chance when they pleaded for their lives and he has crossed that line where you say make him suffer in jail. He should forfeit his life as he has no remorse for what he did to those children and the suffering that the families will live with from now on.
He definitely has remorse.
SHUT UP, HE SENTENCED THOSE POOR PEOPLE TO DEATH, NOW ITS HIS TURN, STOP BLAMING HIS MOTHER
if for some lucky reason he doesnt get the DP, i think it's fair to say he's going to get killed in prison
Yup ..you know that inmates are watching thos case ..and child murderers don't do well in prison and that's a fact esp if Amy incarcerated knew of parkland
If there really is a God out there he will get beaten to death in prison
He will get life.
it really makes me mad that the defense is trying to blame everything on FASD
I personally have FASD and this case is hitting hard
this entire thing could've been prevented if people actually took the things about violence real and tried to get him actual help
Glad you mentioned this. As you said, that was Cruz’ defense. I’m convinced he has FASD. I don’t know how the jury will weigh this as a mitigating factor.
Lol no. Sickos will be sickos
I have a nephew with mental disorders, and is extremely violent. They are in Jacksonville FL. We the family try everything to get him help. $2000.00 dollars a day for incare stays is unreasonable as insurance only covers 59 days depending on the facility. He plays sweet while in there but once out he is violent again. The law has allowed him time and time again to beat on people and if we defend ourselves we are charged with DV and he faces no charges are responsibility. This is in Jacksonville. Thanks to that he now knows no one can touch him and brags about it. He has been emboldened by it. He knows right from wrong, but why should he act right when he knows he can get away with it? The system is failing everyone in these situations. AND IS REALLY FAILING THE VICTIMS OF THESE VIOLENT OFFENDERS
He hasn’t FASD
@@Schattenkind. we don’t know for sure. There were 2 witnesses that said she was drinking heavily and a drug addict, her daughter and the woman that worked with her on the streets.
Even if FASD was a part of it does make him less responsible for his actions?
I haven’t watched enough of the trial to know that.
This defense is ridiculous and it reeks of desperation. That one juror came into this trial with an agenda before she even walked through the door.
Which one? I wasn't able to follow closely.
No you are wrong ! disabilities are real . Some people recognize that , others choose to ignore it.
@@MyMason100 what disability?
There were three jurors who made the decision for life NOT one.
@@rw805 oh. That's not what was said at the time. my b
I love it how many seemingly ignorant people in the comments section who seem BEWILDERED that his own lawyer, who was appointed by the state to represent him, dares to explain his actions to lessen his sentence. It's as if they stumbled on a video of a trial for the first time and have never heard of due process.
Your probably right too
Literally true it’s their job I didn’t agree with how they acted sometimes tho at all it was disgusting but this part is just what comes with it to get their paycheques
Defending the indefensible. The death penalty is the only conclusion.
No it's not. Also, no one is defending what he did.
Which human has the right to decide wo should live or who should die?
... Horrible what he has done... He had needed erly treatment. System failed. Killing him won't bring back the lives of the 17 people. And won't change the parents grief.
Now I see why the parents were so angry with the defense. When she mentioned the jury only got a clip of the phone call she suggested that there was something more in it that could have helped the defense. But the defense could have easily played the whole call on rebuttal. She kept repeating “because it was the right thing to do” to introduce guilty conscious . All they needed was one jury member to hold out and if they did they would be so “courageous and moral.”
😂 at least one "woke" jury took the trap volunteerily 😂 These psychopaths and their fans are all in bed together at night 😂
If you choose to kill your choosing to die. We need the death penalty for people who choose to kill. Why should we support him for the rest of his life.
We will support him either way? If he gets DP he will sit on death row for YEARS. And thats after all of the appeals.
My thoughts exactly! We SHOULD NOT have to support him for the rest of his natural life, no way!!
These precious parents and family members are as disappointed and disgusted with this attorney as I am.
Shame on you. Whatever you may feel about all of this, lawyers such as this one are an important part of why we have a fair and just judicial system in this country overall. Perhaps you'd rather we go to a system as seen in other countries where people can be sentenced to death with no defense or trial because they showed too much skin..
I know what you are saying but it’s her job to defend him.
@@Kris-fi7co That is true it is her job to defend him with FACTS, not playing on the jury's emotions to let him off easy.
You are disgusted with her? Why? No, please explain seeing as you took the time to comment why don't you elaborate for us? She hasn't done anything other than defend her client (one which she might not have had any say in). You are an ignorant person.
Yea ..did you catch their grim faces and rolling side eyes !!! My sentiments exactly
Some of the best defense attorney's are Public Defenders. You won't see them unless it's a serious case. Otherwise it's a crap-shoot who you get for a non-Capital case.
@erica. Being a criminologist, there is some skewed perception in your thoughts about the sytem. His PD would not mention something not relevant in a capital offense closing argument. It's not mitigating! If it was of value, it would have come in somewhere in the beginning.
Are there no facilities that can keep and counsel a kid who sits on the toilet with a knife repeatedly slashing the drywall and destroying the house? He obviously needed long term supervision and counseling. Why do people like this keep falling through the cracks?
Money mainly
It's called discipline which mommy failed to do !
Imagine how stressed his fairly elderly mother would have felt! I've been married to a husband like this and it zaps all your energy. Even the energy to act!
@@aliciacoble7854 not everyone can parent kids like this. It's exhausting.
17 counts of pre-meditated murder. Why is “how he should be punished” even a question …?
Like it or not, she made a very powerful closing statement. She only needs to convince 1 juror to give him life. I don't know what any of them are really thinking because they saw horrific video that we didn't see. They walked that school that has never been altered in any way since the horrible massacre that Nikolas Cruz unleashed on them. It could go either way.
She's doing a great job but I don't think it's 50/50.
I've been on jury. I saved a guy from prison. Because I was open minded and called out fake evidence by the drug task force.
She’s definitely a really good lawyer
There are a lot of people out there who would never consider the death penalty and consider it wrong no matter what. These people are often weened out in jury selection, but that isn’t a fool-proof process.
Personally, I hope it’s unanimous death sentence, but I respect the process.
Her closing statement was nothing short of incredible. She didn't miss a beat. I see lots of people here laughing at her and calling her a terrible attorney but she is an absolute gun. She is sensitive, empathetic, and real all while representing this monster and that is something not many people could do.
Did she say he deserve mercy 😑😑😑😑
He will get the same mercy he gave those children ....fair ?
“What he did has never been a dispute.”
Here are a million excuses for why he did what he did.
why should the jury spare his when he didn't spare the ones he took? put him in the ground already!
Fantastic lawyers I like her she is wonderful job
He was so broken and brain damaged, enough to orchestrate, plan and execute the murder of 17 ppl and injure 17 others, but too broken and brain damaged to accept the consequences that comes with committing such a crime, he is completely culpable, the commission of the crime required substantial planning, premeditation, he killed multiple victims and endangered the lives of many other people, those are the requirements to justify the death penalty. The crime was heinous and he shows no remorse. He should definitely meet sparky. I wonder what side she would be on if her family members were victims of his crime.
Spare his life? That’s hilarious.
Shes patronizing the jury and telling them how to think and what to do!!! Not a word this woman has said is true and hasnt changed my opinion!!!!
It's not your opinion she's trying to change!
Agree, she behaved like a priest, not a lawyer. Low.
It's a win-win for law-abiding citizens:
Life sentence: 50-60 years of rotting in a cell separated from the general inmate population. No family support except the one brother who did not testify on Nicolas' behalf during the trial.
Death Penalty: Death! And being on death row will be horrendous for the next 10 or 20 years.
He has a sister...... unless you missed that heartbreaking testimony....
@@moldytaco The sister isn't in any position to be able to support him. Also, she hasn't seen him since he was an infant. There's no connection there as far as I can tell. I did see her testimony. That mother of theirs was a real POS for subjecting her daughter to such a horrible life.
@@trailrider7046 And the sister had emotional reactions looking at him after so many years...and he had none...
26:29 He's almost smilling. He have no remorse.
He's crazy..he doesn't think like we do 😬 its creepy to watch
His ENTITLEMENT is INCREDULOUS!!
You're imagining it.
You want to see a smile so you do. Subjectivity.
this is the first I've watched of this trial. I'm interested to hear this (I've only started watching)
Did you start watching it yet?
you mean you haven't been suffering along with us all?!
@@lotanowo omg yes. It stopped for no reason at 1:44:48. After watching Darrell Owens (not what he identifies by), this is such sweet symphony. I mean, she's essentially lobbying to pack prisons with the mentally ill that USA refuses to care for so as to line the pockets of private incarceration facilities, but, the way that she blames the drug dependent so coherently! Chef's kiss!
There was no trial. He pled guilty. This has been sentencing proceeds only. Life or death.
But he certainly did have control over choosing to murder innocent people. He knew exactly what he was doing. He knew right from wrong. He planned it. This lady is out of her mind. Asking for mercy for a person who had/has zero regard for human life.
He had control but sadly he also had intense anger at the time. And he was only 29. Male brains aren't even developed by that time.
@@wheelchairgeek Absolutely no excuse. Try again.
I watched almost the entire thing yesterday. I have noticed that the judge was not careful with the pictures. At the very beginning. She can't show such thing on camera. Second, I thought that the defense did well. It is a hard job, but OMG, they have an attitude. You can tell that the blond women hates the judge. The dark hair lady, from the defense, in the corner, also has an attitude. The judge said something and that woman said "I don't care about that". The judge made an effort not to hurt their feelings. You could tell she was walking on egg shells with them. I like the woman next to Cruz, with curly hair. She is very professional.
Yes. She has compassion for the beautiful kid's that were killed & his family.
Mccniel had a prob with the judge from the getfo because she begged to be let off the case. .judge said no because she wanted to proceed ..mnniel has it out for her from the start
The tone she’s using with the jury is horrible. She’s yelling meanly at them. If I was one of them I would not take kindly to it. She’s utterly terrible.
This trial is good practice for this attorney....til she actually gets a client that really needs to be defended.
I get the impression she's speaking emphatically in order to convey emotion. I wouldn't really consider that "yelling" at the jury.
She's a narcissist who is career-climbing on the bodies of those children. A two hour pedantic and confrontational closing statement? She's despicable.
She is fighting a losing battle. Chill
@@strangerthings8143 Those people saying she is yelling have no clue!!! She deserves an Award but ofcource people who wanted Cruz dead are not going to admit to it of how phenomenal she did her job.
He said in an interview that he did this shooting because he felt like no one loved him and he hates Valentine's Day
This men will get life sentence
Most likely
Unfortunately, it’s Florida
This is a very skilled lawyer
Shes someone who literary saved this killer lifes, he still wasn't still grateful for her and the juror for helping this kid
She is skilled, but this case was beyond horrible SO the best would have been a moderate defense, instead of manipulation...NOW everybody hates her...😢
I’m sorry but this man can’t even behave in jail😤
She's done an excellent job at making him even more unlikeable and undeserving of a life sentence.
I thought the same! Their efforts of showing he was “broken”, in my opinion, just showed he had every chance to get help but chose to do and be as he pleases. There are a lot of people that wish they had a 1/3 of the help his parents tried to give him.
@@KamiP91 most mentally ill ppl don't seek help on their own.
seems not, because she won.
Sooooooo glad the judge had to step down after her unprofessional behavior during this trial.
Extra loves and good vibes 2 they families and everyone involved in this horrible tragedy...
As of April, Florida has eliminated permanent solitary confinement for death row inmates. Death row inmates can now spend 20 hrs/wk in a day room socializing and watching television, have access to multimedia kiosks, more access to showers, more phone calls to family and six hours weekly of being outdoors. The changes were made as a result of a lawsuit brought by eight inmates claiming inhumane treatment.
That's a good thing. In countries where inmates are treated like humans, they behave more like humans.
@@justthatgirl-ct4jo I like your reasoning
Firing squad seems appropriate ending in this case
I wish !!! But it's illegal ..but electric chair isn't
why don't they mic them up? drives me mad when they step away from the podium
Defense attorney would be so much more effective if she memorized her “script” and spoke without “hiding” behind the podium stand. Oh well, it doesn’t matter-she only needs to convince 1 juror.
It's not TV!
The interview from JSC where you see him pretending to see things and hear voices is a very telling preface to all of these. It’s difficult not to roll your eyes the whole time she speaks.
Totally. I get she has a job to do, but it was so hard listening to her empty repetition.
Most people would act crazy if they had just done that. It's not indicative of much.
@@wheelchairgeek Maybe but I suppose my view is different in totality, I could having a psych degree in my opinion (his body language, the stories and lies cognitively put together, etc then..Boom. Having traumas and depression doesn’t make you crazy and have the desire to shoot it up.
How much longer do these parents have to listen to and suffer? Seeing pictures of their children murdered in COLD BLOOD.Without ANY REMORSE .He sits there trying to look so pitiful and innocent,
We can't read minds by looking at faces.
If the prosecution had accepted the defence offer of guilty on all charges, with life with no parole, it would have been over in 1 or 2weeks. The howling hoards wanted the death penalty. The defense won...
Well, in the end she did her job. And if I was on that jury knowing myself her words would affect me. Her words about me being personally responsible for that choice. Personally responsible for sending him to death. No matter how horrible I think he is, I would have halted.
than you know you would be incapable of doing the right thing.