Mountain Bike Rims and Tires | Is Wider Better? | Starring: November Bicycles
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- Mountain bike rim and tire width is an ongoing debate, but what is the best size for you? Is wider better? I visited November Bicycles in Newport, RI to get the to bottom of the subject. Check out my latest video that starts from scratch and gives you the basic knowledge you will need to figure out what best fits your riding style. Be sure to like, subscribe, and comment!
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Thank for this video. I refreshed my memory back in many years go about tire and rim selection.
Very helpful video, thanks for providing illustrations with the internal rim measurements along with the strengths and weaknesses of tire sizes. Now I feel I have more reasons to upgrade my wheel!
vg1979 happy to help!!
Im here because I cased my rear wheel and need a new rim. Thanks for an easy to understand and informative video!
Ash Weber-Campbell rims come and go, but I’m glad I could help! Keep riding!
Great info. I’m relatively new to MTB as well and have learned a lot by scouring forums, but you talked about a lot of stuff that usually goes unmentioned in vids on these topics.
Adam Meade I appreciate it man! Glad I could help shed some extra light.
Very informative. Thanks for explaining the meaning of the different numbers on tires and the importance of different tire sizes. Lots of knowledge that is simple to overlook but just as simple once explained in such a direct fashion. Thanks again.
Appreciate the feedback and compliment! Cheers
I can't thank you enough for this video.
Great .This was very interesting .Got a montague paratrooper and thinking about hybrid wider tyres .Thanks again.
Thank you very much, very important information
Super helpful video! I just measured my internal rim widt, and it came out to only 18 mm (running 2.1 tires), always thought it was at least 20 mm. I usually just ride around town and xc, but usually pretty aggressively, so no wonder I feel like my bike wants to oversteer, it's because of all that wheel flex! Now wider rims are on top of my upgrade list
Happy to help!
One of the best vids i've watched on this cheers 👍
Thank you!
Just bought a set of DT Swiss XM1501 Spline One 29ers 25mm inner and 30mm outter to be used with 2.4 tires. This video is making me second guess my purchase!
Ghosty haha don’t second guess! That isn’t the worst ratio and there are a lot of factors to consider. I def wouldn’t go any bigger on the tire size, but see how it feels. If you are rolling the tire often, then you either need a wider rim, or a narrower tire.
short n sweet! thx 🤙 Good luck for your races ^^
Thank you!
This helped out a lot, now I know what I'm looking for now, thank you
Mark Sepulveda happy to help!
Great explanation!
You already a pro.
Great video and well presented
THANSK FOR THIS VID!!! Helped me a lot!!!
Very informative! Thanks man!
alche che glad I could help man! Thanks!
great video buddy , , just the info I needed..subscribed thankyou
Adventure Trails MTB many thanks! Glad I could help
thanks for sharing! nice review
Great thorough review 👍👍👍
Fantastic review! I am in scratching my head since yesterday when I encountered my 2nd time blown out tire in the same spot of the local trail in my place. I am running 17mm internal width rim with 2.25 tire and now thinking of replacing to 30mm internal width in order to give way to 2.4 tire size hoping that it would solve the issue.
MARLON JEFFREY S MARQUEZ thanks man! 17mm internal is crazy small, so the upgrade to 30mm should help a ton! You can also run lower pressure, making the riding smoother. Let me know how it goes!
i have 19mm on 2.25 will it be ok? :)
17mm and 2,25" not a good combination, I just went from 19mm (or maybe 21 not sure but it was narrow) on 2,2" to 30mm and it has so much better damping of vibrations and grip that it is more like riding a fat bike lol :) Now the same tires as before is so wide that I am not sure if I can fit anything wider on the bike... I can run a lot lower tire pressure but even with really hard tires it had better damping of vibration then with my old rims with so little air that you had huge chance of pinch flat.
Very educative video. Thank you!
Luis Madrid happy to help!
This info is very helpful, thank you for sharing sir. from Philippines
Happy to help!
Very helpful. Thanks.
Plater glad to hear it!
I run 30mm dt swiss e1900 spline wheels and schwalbe magic mary 27,5"×2,6" tyres front & back
Great video!
Jake Braaps thanks man!
Your the man ty for the info
Perfect explaination
Suscribed!!!
Thanks!
Dude, I have the exact same wheel set up. This was my personal hypothesis and always get grief. But looks like you are doing the same thing. Thank you
I'm running Stans Arch 26mm rims with Bontager XR4 2.4" tires. Awesome setup
very informative.. thanks dude
Thanks for the support man!
nice video.....you with bike and I am with motor bike.
Weather in UK I have lots of racing and wide tyres in wet/loamy conditions are worse as narrow is better to dig through for grip. 2.35 and stiff side walls. My 2020 e/bike came with 2.6 tyres and it was totally vague.
Man, I live a 3 minute walk from November and I had no idea it even existed!
PJ Halpen one of the best wheel builders around!
MTB Travel Review great to know! Most likely going to be switching hoops this season, so now I know where to go!
They say my rims are too wide but you proved them otherwise haha
thank you was looking everywhere
before i watch did he say how to find out how big tires i can put on my bike? i got a trek x caliber 7 and im lost F
Some of these generalizations are unsubstantiated, and actually disproven in a more scientific comprehensive test, here on UA-cam. But still 95% helpful. thanks for the effort.
Such as?
Do you have a link to the video you are referring to?
Cool vid!👍 I don't race but did a lot of research in wheel widths and went for a 30mm/56 teeth 240's hubs all DT Swiss with 2.4 tires and cushcore and tubeless.
Solid set up 👌🏼
@@MTBTravelReview one thing about Cushcore: you really don't know if it's working until you change your tire and see all of the "would be pinch flats" marks on the thing! Then you appreciate it! At least I do!
@@Dano71R very true! Just switched mine over and it looks like it was stabbed to death in a horror film. 🤣
@@MTBTravelReview 🤣🤣🤣
I really don´t know how much width are my rims, bc it was given but i do know the tire width is 2.00, the tire have a ok grip but in future i will choose a 2.40 on front
Any update with what your using now? This is very informative and not a lot talks about this. Maybe you can also add up about tyre pressure with different wheel width and rim width.
Check out my latest video on Cushcore. Shows you my full wheel set up as of today.
Could i replace a 1.75 tire with a slightly larger 2.1 tire?
I got new rims made in Finland going from 21mm to 30mm (they took about 120 Euro for the job and new spokes as I already had the rims and used the old hubs). The difference was huge on my 25kg heavy fully damped electric mountain baike, now I can drive at full speed over rocks stiking up 5cm that before would give me horrible pain in my wrists (because of they are damaged by arthritis). I am surprised how much better wider rims with the same 2,2" tires was and it also gave much better grip when going in and out of deep tracks in the road and general confidence in the bike. Now riding is fun again and I will have to adjust the suspension stiffer to avoid bottoming that out as I ride a LOT faster now :)
Thanks 👍 🥂
My current rims are 21mm inner width. I want to put on a new set of tires that are 29" x 2.3, will that be fine, or will it be too big?
If needing to get wider rims, how do I know how wide of rims I can put on my bike?
Hi, how wide is your rear tire.. im planning to build a wheelset around 30mm rims and 2.3 tires.. would it fit into a 3 inch frame clearance? Thanks!
As a reference 19mm = 3/4" 14mm=9/16, 13mm=1/2"
Meri height 7 futt hai to mere liye konse tyre ki cycle sahi rahegi
Can I put a more slimmer tire on my bike? My original tire is 2.10 but I want a 1.95
What size rim for 2.4s
For weinman 32mm rims. Can i use maxxis assegai 2.5?
Um… I bought 2.0 mtb tyres because I wanted more agility, are them too narrow or should I be just fine? They have really big treads tho
Does the lightbulb effect also makes the tire taller?
I have a 2.10 inch rim what’s the max size tire I can get
sir asking if there effect if i use 30mm OD rim for front and 29 OD rim in rear
Hi, if i have a 26mm wide rim how wide of a tyre would be the max? could i fir 2.30 do you think. My current tyre width is 2.20 thanks
this is very informative, thank you so much! i have a pair of 27mm 29er rims and planning to put 2.4s on them. Is this set up ok? pls advice...really appreciate it. CHEERS!
Fuzz Fadel glad it helped! You’re welcome! The 2.4s would work, but I wouldn’t go any bigger. I run 2.3s in 30mm. Personally I wouldn’t go higher than with 2.3s on your rims, but that’s just me.
@@MTBTravelReview Thanks so much. I'd probably run 2.35s on those rims then. 😊👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 Cheers!!!
I run 2.5" for my FRONT Arch MK3s with no prob., Stan's say's it's within range and they're 26mm internal width: www.notubes.com/arch-mk3-rims. I run 2.35 on the rear with higher pressure.
Dave Watt nothing wrong with that! Depends a lot on your riding style as well. If you are more xc, than that will be fine. I am a very aggressive rider, so I prefer a wider rim for strength and less of the bulb. I would be likely to rip that 2.5 right off of a 26mm internal rim., but that’s just me!
I have 29 inch HM mountain bike. With 2.10 swalable and I ordered 2.25 gladiator tires. Will it fit.
did it fit?
I have a 20mm inter width for a Continental mountain king 2.3 is it okay?
What's your opinion of (27.5) 28mm or 30mm internal width rims with 48mm tires? What do you think the final tire width would be? An extra 2-4mm at around 50-52mm tire width? Thanks!
Also, I am considering 48mm Compass Switchback Hill tires. This is a slick tire. So no worries about flattening out knobs causing more rolling resistance.
Personally I wouldn't run anything smaller than a 2.3" tire on a 28-30mm rim. 2.5" would be better. A 1.9" tire will likely be pretty squared out, but its all personal preference.
I have 30mm 29er rims .. Can I run 2.5 front and 2.3 rear ? Is that a good setup for just climbing and riding down fast through my local hiking trails/ few mtb trails
Jesus Cardona that is exactly what I run. It’s primo
My rim size is 26× 1.5mm.how wide tyre can I install in this rim
What would be the recommended rim width to ride with 2.3 - 2.4 tires? That's the widest I use during winter, and I was just thinking about upgrading my wheels when I found this video, perfect timing from the Universe!
Juan Carlos Alpízar 30mm is what I run. 2.3 rear - 2.5 front. It’s a great combo
Hello,
I currently have 30mm internal width rim. With 30mm internal width what size tyre can i use? Can I run 2.6 inch wide tyres on 30mm internal width (without getting too much of a light bulb effect)?
lDEXTOR I I run 2.3 rear (faster rolling, 2.5 front. 2.6 is overkill IMO and would have some bulb, but it could work depending on the tire/rim.
Hi, the rims are offset?
Cooool 😎👍👍👍
Great vid, but I'm still a little confused. can a 52 - 622 tyre replace a 57 - 622 one?
Cheers!
From what I understood the answer to your question is 'NO'. The 52 and 57 numbers should be the same and if they are not then your tires will not fit properly leading to malfunction and problems in stability. Your tire could dislodge from its beed and come off the rim at high stress times of riding. That is what I gathered from this video
I'm building new wheel sets. I weigh between 94kg and 100kg. I ride trails, aggressive XC, hard cornering, and decent/short downhill sections but lots of climbs too I also ride all mountain style on my Giant Anthem alluminium 27.5.
I am willing to get me 2 sets of wheels from DT-SWIss but, I'm confused because, I don't know what the difference between 25mm and 30mm inner rim width looks like.
The widest tire in my collection is a 2.35 ardent race, the rest are 2.3 and 2.2 and that's about as wide and as thin my tires get. Now, in order not to get that bulb shape or burp tires at low pressure, what inner width should I consider for the anthem both front and rear?
kay poly up to you at the end of the day, but I would go with 30mm internal. Rims will be a bit tougher and last long during those short DH sections. Also fit perfect with your tire sizes
@@MTBTravelReview Thanks for replying even though the answer came after I had already placed the orde. No qualms though, just like I thought, your suggestion matches my choice, I went with the 30mm, even though the 2.2 ish tires might look too square on them but, considering I will be sticking to 2.25 rears and 2.3 and 2.35 front from now on for XC applications and wider tires for my enduro bike that I am about to buy, I think the 30mm rim choice will be the best bet in a long run. Something that I could run on an XC/trail bike like an anthem and whatever enduro I get in the near future without needing new sets of wheels. Thanks.
Hi sir
Please give me a advice
My rims flow mk3
Inner 29mm
What is your opinion for my tires wide?
adi hidayat I have 30mm internal and prefer 2.3 rear, 2.5 front. I cannot say what you prefer, but I love my set up
Hey man, appreciate the video. Quick questions. I ride a 2.4 up front with a 23mm inner width and I just cased my rear wheel of the same dimension. I took it to the shop and unbeknownst to me they ordered me a much bigger wheel at 32mm and put the same 2.4” on the back. Is it okay to run a 23mm up front and a 32mm in the back? Also is a 2.4 okay on a 32 or should I go up to a 2.5/2.6? And finally should I put the 32 wheel up front or leave it in the back? Thank you ahead of time!!
A few questions there. haha. A lot of this depends a lot on your riding. Generally speaking, 30-35mm internal rims are much more common than the smaller 23mm, so I would lean towards 32mm for durability and stability purposes. Doesn't technically matter if front and back are different sizes. Your rear wheel will take 10x more abuse than the front, so you are fine, but personally having two different rims sizes would annoy the hell out of me. As far as tire size goes - with a 32mm internal rim, i'd recommend tires from 2.3"-2.5", so 2.4 is totally fine, but your call which. I like 2.3 or 2.4 rear and 2.5 front, but thats just me.
@@MTBTravelReview Thanks for the quick reply! I really like the 32mm, and I am a little annoyed with having two different sizes, so maybe ill go ahead and get a 32mm up front as well. Thanks again for your help!
Kevin Walder no prob man. Good luck!
hi. im using 2.4 in front and 2.25 rear . xc driver. which rim width will be good for me? excellent video.
Many factors to rim width. I can’t just pick a size out of the air, but between 28 - 35mm would be a good place to start
For a XC TRAIL bike like the Marin bobcat trail 3 with 25mm inner width rims and 29x2.25 tires, would you put 2.4 inch tires, for riding uphill and downhill single tracks?
Best to ask the bike or wheel manufacturer…
How narrow of a tire would you run on 30 mm internal width wheels? Will a 2.25” work?
yes
I recently purchased a 2020 Giant Talon 3. Inner rim is 21mm. Stock tire is a 29 x 2.0. Looking to get 29 x 2.3 or 29.24 tire. Will this work?
Many different factors to account for here, but generally speaking a 21mm rim is a touch smal for a 2.3/2.4" tire. I would personally upgrade my rims to a 30mm before swapping to the larger tire.
I have a Totem Victor E-bike and I just want to know how much wide the rim can fit? My bike have 26 x 1.95 tires, and I want replace it with a wider tire at least 3".
I recommend reaching out to the manufacturer to see what the largest tire size you can fit is. Any rim size should fit, but there is only so much tire clearance on any bike.
What rim width (internal width) would you recommend for 29x2.25 tires XC bike
Fattie there are a million variables here, but generally speaking 30-35mm internal time width.
So i have a set of mavic 717 and a set of 519 is this 17mm and 19mm I'm running 2.1 on the 717 and the bike with the 519 rims came new fitted with 2.3 tyres. Could i fit 2.4 on a 519 or will this have less advantage. I'm only really going for looks i don't really ride off road so much any more
Ask your local bike shop
hi man, few questions, i will be quick
i’ve got 21mm internal front rim width, i know those stuff with tire bending and all od that
what if i put 2.5, does the tire on the top looks the same on 21mm inner, and 35mm inner rim width?
is the tire the same width uptop on 21mm rim and 30-35? it looks like its a bit rounder on top with smaller rim width, while lookin at wider rim, it looks like its flat on top (threads)
So does 2.5 look like 2.3 on narrower rim, or its just illusion
and can a 21mm rim serve a purpose of enduro/freeride bike with 170mm suspension on some races? I have a 36mm rear rim, which is good, but that front rim is giving me headaches. Dunno if i can ride that front wheel to races, + im not really into spending a lot of money
Sorry, I can’t help you. I’d recommend finding a local bike shop. They are very helpful.
Could you link the parts
i just bought a bike that has 21mm rim with 2.4 tires. should that be fine. i want to chnge them to tubeless tho and i want push to the widest i can. is 2.4 the widest you think i can go?
If you want wider tires, I’d get wider rims.
Great video. Been looking for info around this for weeks.
Question- I have Spank Vibrocore 24mm internal 28mm external rims and 2.35 Michelin tires. is this ok?
Website says Max tire size is 2.30. will the .5 make a difference?
You are definitely going to have some bulb effect there. If it works, it works, but I’d recommend bigger rims next time if you are running that size tire.
@@MTBTravelReview Thanks. I guess i just have to run with this for now. So far so good though. Spank website saya maximum tire size to be used is 2.30. hoping the .5 difference doesnt make much of a nefstive impact. Keep up the great work
@@markpahilanga9461 appreciate the support! 🤘🏼
whats your thought on 30mm ID rim with schwalbe Racing ralph 27.5 x 2.25?
I have no opinion on this. Sorry
Been looking this kind of information. I am planning to put 2.3mm tire on a 35mm rim. Will that work? Thanks before.
Ketut Rama Wijaya should work fine! That is about as big of a rim as I would go with a 2.3 tire personally though. Def recommend running the 2.5 up front too, but totally up to rider preference and terrain.
@@MTBTravelReview wow, thanks for the quick reply. I think i will click the order button on the ARC 35. Will consider the 2.5 for the front also 👍👍👍
my next tire (2.5 front) (2.4 rear) what rim width reccommended?
Lalokera0629 30mm - 35mm interval
I've got a 29er rim that measures 2.56 cm. in width. Will a 2.40 or a 2.50 tire fit correctly on my rim ?
The video explains how to figure it out!
Hi can I use 28mm rim and 2.3 to 2.4 tires for enduro or gravity???
I’d recommend 30mm and up, but you can likely do that. Depends highly on the rim/tire combo. I’d ask my local bike shop if you are unsure.
I have 28mm rims.
Does it fit on 2.10?
SURE
2.5 and 2.4 tires to 28/33 inner and outer width rims, does it works ?
Abner Torres 2.5” tire on. 28mm internal rim is pushing it, but should work in theory. All depends on type of tire and rim + trial and error.
@@MTBTravelReview by pushing it do you mean the 28mm is too big or too small for 2.5inch tires. Thanks.
itz_4dy I have 30mm rims and the largest tire I run is a 2.5 up front. So by pushing it, I mean that a 2.5 is def the widest I would go on a 28mm rim. Again, it’s not like it won’t work, it’s just might not work well if you are an aggressive rider hammering corners and such. I hope that helps.
My Front tyre is thicker than my back one because I got different tyres. How this will end up ?
Kevin Mazur that’s actually a good thing. Front tire is your traction, back tire is smaller which equals faster
@@MTBTravelReview *_Oh wow thx for the answer_* . I thought I would never get any answers.
I currently have 29x2.20 front and 29x2.00 back. When buying new tires do I need to match those numbers ? Or can I do up on the width ?
DANIEL NEYRA sounds like you are listing your tire size. You need to know you internal rim width to know the size tire you can run. Watch the video again. It shows you everything you need to know.
@@MTBTravelReview thanks !
hello sir, I have 21mm internal 29'' . Can I put 3.0" tire or How much I can put the biggest in a 21mm. ty.
j hello sir, you cannot put a 3.0” tire on a 21mm internal rim. WAY to big. Highest I would go is 2.3”, and that is pushing it for my riding style.
@@MTBTravelReviewCopy. thats what I have now 2.3. ty :-)
Hi! I currently run a 2.4 width DHR 2 in the rear, and a 2.3 maxxis shorty in front. Should I switch them? Because they keep telling me you should run a wider tire up front for enduro. Also the dhr2 is a bit heavier than the shorty
I always run the larger up front as that is the tire that guides the bikes and needs more traction for cornering, etc. So, yes.
@@MTBTravelReview thanks!
Your rear rim is also 30mm? For an 2.3 ideally by Maxxis should be 25mm.
fernandorat I disagree and think that a 2.3” rear tire is ideal for my 30mm rim, but I do appreciate your opinion! It is all a matter of opinion, as well as the individual tires construction, and riding style at the end of the day. Cheers man!
Depends on the tire design. A lot of 2.3-2.35 tires are not designed for 30mm internal rims. In my experience, going from 30mm down to 25mm for my 2.35 rear was a big improvement as the profile became more rounded, allowing me to lean the bike more, and more easily while still having the knobs biting. It was simply too flat/stretched on the 30mm rims. I think you're generally better off going with a tire and rim size range that is designed for each other.
I have 40mm rims with 2.5 tires is it good?
In my opinion thats great. 2.5 or 2.6 inch is what I would run on a 40mm internal rim.
What do you think of 36 inner and a 2.35 tires?
Could work in the rear, but I’d go with a bigger tire up front. 2.5 or 2.6
Hi there, hoping you can help.
I’ve got a frame that was given to me but the bicycle has no wheels. My nearest bike shop is quite far away and don’t have car to bring it to the bike shop. Is there any way for me to figure out what size wheels and tyres I’ll need for my bike? Any measurements I can take?
I’ve emailed the manufacturers company with the serial number of the frame but they haven’t been much help.
Sorry I can’t help you, but keep looking for someone local.
@@MTBTravelReview No worries, thank you anyway!
Im still kinda new to the bike game so i can’t gauge as well so will a 29x2.25 tire be better with a 32 mm rim or a 28mm rim?
Could work with both, but I’d say it would work better with the 32mm rim. That rim will also be stronger.
@@MTBTravelReview ok then that settles it. Thank you very much!
So would it make any difference if I'd have a wider (2.6) tire on the rear and narrower (2.3) on the front ?
a A rRB b uzU Z yes. You want a larger tire up front because that is your primary traction for cornering and steering, and a narrower tire in the back because that tire does not pick lines, just follows
@@MTBTravelReview well, guess I'll have to ride backwards 🤷♂️
Cuz my fork won't fit tire larger than 2.4" lol
a A rRB b uzU Z lol. Just run a 2.4 up front and 2.3 rear
@@MTBTravelReview 2.3 on 32mm rim :/ I'll stay with this setup till I'll have enough money to change the front rim on smthn wider :P
Btw I was joking about the fork cuz it will fit up to 3", but the rim I have is 24mm 🤷♂️
cheers
i have raleigh[MTB] current is 26 x1.95 rim and tyre. i want to convert in plus bike by installing 26x3. is it possible ?
I recommend asking your local bike ship.
@@MTBTravelReview sure btw thanks!
Hi I am going to be buying a new trek fx 2 disc in the next two weeks. I am going to be upgrading my wheels to a set of dt swiss rr421 asymmetric rims. I will be running schwalbe marathon 700x35c tyres. The rr421 has a inner rim width of 20mm . This bike will be used on ashfault roads and city streets 100% of the time. Is the the 20mm inner width the best option I am looking to get the best proformance and ride quality out of these rims and tyres. Or should I be looking for a different rim with a different inner width. Can you please let me know what is the difference between a asymmetric and symmetric rims. Is one better than the other and I don't if I have to pay more for the asymmetric rims if it is worth it. Thanks for reading my questions and thank you for any help you can give me.
Congrats on the new bike. 20mm rims with 35c tires are perfectly fine for street riding as the rims won’t take the beating that they would on the woods. You could go up to 38c wide tires, but not a huge difference, just a little wider. I would stick with what you have. Sounds fine to me!
Also, asymmetric rims basically have off centered spoke holes, which is said to make them stronger. Won’t make a huge difference for you, but doesn’t hurt to have more durable rims.
Thank you so very much for the information and fast response. Thank you again