Streaming vs. 4K Blu-Ray, Best Plasma TV Replacement | You Asked Ep. 13
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
- On today’s episode of you asked. Is no Dolby Vision a no-go? Should you try for Dolby Atmos if you have funky ceilings? Is OLED the best replacement for an aging plasma? And streaming vs. 4K Blu-ray, which is better and why?
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The bitrate difference between streaming and hard media is huge. So much so, I've gone back to buying 4K blurays and now own a dedicated Sony bluray player.
then you better hurry up and buy as many 4k movies as you can because alot of places are gonna stop selling them starting next year
Just sad that not everybody releases on blu ray anymore. HBO has been good and I’ve bought several tv series and what not in 4k, but then Disney , u can’t get the mandalorian on 4k blu ray. :(
@@rudypj30 From what I know, and I could be wrong, they're just going to stop selling physical media "in store".
Meaning that, while you won't be able to just walk in to a store and buy the movie/game, you'll still be able to buy it online.
At least, for the foreseeable future.
I always rented my Blu-Rays and played them in my PS3. The rental stores are gone, there's a Red Box machine at the supermarket but I can't make a commitment to return the disc in time, so I'm streaming now. My stereo system is so last century, it will be impossible to upgrade. I'm using the Aux-out cable on my TV.
@@rudypj30dumb take, there are so, so many independent shops online that do well selling physical media. Even with BB gone the avid buyer doesn’t care because you never get anything in perfect condition from places like BB and AMZN. All my steel books from those places came screwed up.
If you buy the 4K blu-ray of a film you can look for the 4K, Blu-ray and digital all in one and save a lot of money while owning all formats. To me that's a huge win.
Great minds think alike. That's one of the biggest reason I still buy DVDs
4k Blu-ray suck. They cost a lot for a subtle improvement and the Mexican-pressed ones are always scratched.
@@stonesfan285 Not all physical media are equal. Some publishers don't care to deliver high quality. And if they do, they can't achieve the high quality because of not being able to find a proper source. Some films haven't been preserved well. So you will always need to do some research before purchasing certain discs. There are definitely ones out there that will astound you.
You don't have to look for such combo pack as they make it a forced buy for you to include all formats.
@@stonesfan285 So far except for latest movie releases, any restored oldies have looked the same on both 4k and 1080p media without any noticeable difference. Sometimes the 4k artificial HDR has looked worse than SDR 1080p disk.
Movies streamed on Apple TV 4k look and sound really great on my Sony OLED, but I still buy the 4k Blu-rays of my all time favorites to get the absolute best versions.
Exactly the same here. About 90% Apple, 10% discs.
Picture quality is usually excellent on iTunes 4K but the sound quality difference I can definitely hear versus blu-ray discs. Especially LFE effects seem muted in streaming versions often. I also buy both discs and digital
Agreed. I was surprised when Caleb mentioned Movies Anywhere as from what I’ve seen Apple TV is superior (in picture quality) to the other major streaming services.
@@davidhogansrevenge4604 It is, Apple TV 4K has very impressive picture and sound. I have 2 of them hooked up to a Sony A80J OLED, and a Hisense H9F QLED, both set to BT2020 color gamut, and they look stunning. Sound is great too!
This is the way
Physical Media is superior to streaming in a few ways. The drawbacks are that it's more expensive and less convenient. The benefits are that it looks better, it sounds better, you never have to worry about it being taken off a service or moving to another service and you never have to worry about it being edited for content. There are usually special features that you sometimes can't get anywhere else. Different cuts of the movie, deleted scenes, commentaries. I think it mostly comes down to how much you care about the movie. I get the movies I really enjoy on disc, I stream the ones I don't love.
The price is super annoying. Blurays were at least affordable. However 4k blurays cost £24-40 new and sometimes even used! Can’t justify that when iTunes movies are affordable and sound 90% as good in Dolby atmos. No going to lie though, I am a sucker for dts master audio!
Well, those aren't the only drawbacks. Another problem is that... many don't actually look noticably better than streaming. Sound can vary from sounding a little bit better to a lot better. A decent amount of movies that have Dolby Vision for streaming, do not have it for the 4K blu-ray (like most Sony and Disney 4K blu-rays).
For me, I got a 4K blu-ray player mainly because I already had a great soundbar and TV, so I could make good use of it. And well, the main reason I got it is for nostalgic movies that I like and to get some eye candy in the best quality possible (I love how many CG movies look. And some of those modern monster movies are also great).
And a good benefit for having a 4k bluray disc is if you live somewhere that has internet connection issues and your wifi is down a lot, you have a disc that you can play whenever that happens. My internet went down for like 3 days once and my family watch movies and shows i had on disc since you had no other choice if you didnt want to be on your phone the whole time haha
It doesn't have to be more expensive. Every streaming platform is getting more expensive and if you want a good selection of channels you're looking at $100-$150 a month. Cancel streaming and use that money to build a collection, you can get 10-15 movies a month if you find sales or buy used.
@@hl236It's only expensive if you're after all the new releases. If you just wait a couple months they go on sale. 95% of my 4k blu ray purchases are sales or used off ebay.
Best episode yet Caleb! Blu ray vs streaming is the most important topic for me, it blows my mind that someone who spends 1000 dollars on a tv doesn't use blu-ray
...because they don't want to spend another 1000 dollars?
@@aafawfawfawf6272 who said a bluray player was 1000 dollars, you can get one for $100. 4k, will cost a bit more around $200-$400.
I've commented in favour of BluRay disks many times before. Good that folks here're finally realising the potential of it vs streaming content.
@@aafawfawfawf6272not every 4K blu-ray player is $1,000 lmao
@@miloa.2684 you clearly don't know much about the topic if my comment brought so much amusement to you
I was streaming Mad Max: Fury Road via Amazon (I think), and I felt like I had to crank up the volume to get the sound I was wanting. I then decided to throw in the blu-ray I have of the same movie and the difference in sound quality alone was startling. The disc had so much more volume and also clarity and it made my Sonos system come alive.
IMHO, every service that I use has a different sound level. In my instance, my Blu-Ray player has a relatively low sound level as compared to my other devices.
The sound on physical media is significantly better.
It’s not a lossy vs lossless thing; a lot of films are getting mixed more cautiously, so they’ll sound acceptable in stereo and at moderate volume, while the disc contains the full dynamic range for the cinema. Whether that’s actually a good thing for you will depend on your setup.
@@NachturnalOne I truly can't recognize much if any difference.
@@IainLambertThat happened to Top Gun Maverick.
Another plus for physical media is when the internet goes down for a few days, I can still watch something.
Streaming can be good to avoid blind buys too.
My internet didn't go down, but Vudu had a service outage once night where you could get sound, but video did not come through. Stuff like that is why I don't bank on these digital locker services for a collection. They're great for rentals or if I get free codes in my BDs.
I have a PS5 and it works great as a 4K blu-ray player but I decided for a Panasonic stand alone player to reduce energy costs and guess what, the video is better.
agreed. Just bought the newest sony 4k player and even the 1080 blue rays were so much better
Thinking of doing the same. Which model of Panasonic stand alone 4k BR player did you get?
Same same same. I have xsx and ps5 but saw a big upgrade with my panasonic for ultra 4k
@@trevhibDP-UB420P for me
@@trevhibGo for the UB820. It plays everything, has stellar quality, and does not experience disc read errors.
+1 to the physical copy crowd. Maybe someday streaming will be there, but for now. The disk ain’t dead! Lol. Thanks for the q&a
4K hard Disk will ALWAYS ..ALWAYS BEST streaming hands down! picture and sound quality on the 4K can’t be beat!! People who know..KNOW! So many have no clue!! GREAT VIDEO! MAHALO!!
Indeed.
Physical media is king. It may not be as convenient. But its just superior
My Magnetar UDP900 would agree
It is but most folks don’t care or don’t care enough to deal with buying, storing media etc. it’s not going to die tomorrow or anything but the long time horizon, it’ll be a niche product I think.
I mean it is more convenient then thing not on streaming services.
True
I went from a 60 inch Pioneer Kuro to a 85 inch Sony X950h. I have zero regrets the blacks are good enough and that big step up in size hits it out of the park.
Size is always the best and biggest improvement one can make
These "You Asked" videos are terrific. Keep up the great work Caleb.
Great to hear your thoughts on 4K Blu-ray vs 4K Streaming. I very recently upgraded my TV, AV Receiver and 4K Blu-ray player so everything is at the same Dolby certification standard and is all current generation. I also upgraded all my cabling to HDMI 2.1 48GBs (which did give a visually improved experience, even on normal HD TV). I have a high bandwidth internet connection and use an NVIDIA Shield Pro for streaming 4K, and overall I think the quality is pretty good. However, if I watch the same content on physical media on my 4K Blu-ray player, I am able to see a NOTICEABLE improvement in overall quality. For me personally, there is no question, the entire experience is better on 4K Blu-ray. I guess what I’m trying to say, is to anyone considering a high end TV, if you care about the visual experience and want to make sure you’re getting the maximum out of it, then you need to feed it with the best quality signal, which currently only comes from physical media. If you’re happy with 4K Streaming quality (and to be fair, as mentioned, it did look pretty good), then you may want to save some money and get a TV from a lower performance bracket 👍
It's not just 4k blu ray. Regular 1080p blu ray is just as good and in the cases of some good scans better than some 4k streams. And you get the benefit of better sound as well.
I changed to an optical HDMI cables and WOW what a difference. Using a Sony 85K OLED and Panasonic UB 4K Blu-Ray and Apple tv+ 2023
Absolutely agree with your 4K answer. Noticable picture quality and sound with my LG blue ray player over streaming.
Sony X90J owner here, but still own the awesome Samsung F8500 Plasma. Actually, I find the X90J better for everything: SDR, HDR, HD, SD. The upscaling on the Sony in particular is quite well done. The TV manufacturers have done an excellent job improving on LCD TV tech in the past 10 years.
LCD Led TV’s really have gotten awesome especially in the last 5 years. I honestly enjoy a good mid or upper grade Led just as much as Oled if not more in a lot of situations just got to stay away from those low end cheap led LCD’s
I think that's a matter of taste. I haven't seen any LCD I'd get over a plasma. OLED there are 3 models worth considering, the rest, IMHO, not.
I currently have a pioneer elite 1080p that cost $11500 when new and really is gorgeous still to this day and I also still own a Fujitsu plasma vision that cost around $10k when new that I do not use anymore but still have and my new Samsung QLed blows away both those televisions and the pioneer is a top of the line plasma bout the best u could buy. These new Qleds with dimming zones and great hdr peak brightness are seriously awesome and my new 85in Samsung only cost $3400 we are in good times for TV’s. I used to be on the Oled hype train for awhile and do really like the new qd Oleds but regular Oleds and even the best ever plasmas just don’t and didn’t get bright enough. QD technology is just awesome
Really enjoyed the conversation around 4K Blu Ray vs Streaming.
Great selection of questions and very informative answers. Thanks for the great job!
The audio quality is the biggest difference between streaming and 4K blue ray. Hoping lossless audio eventually comes to video streaming given it’s already available for music streaming.
I agree. The other biggest difference is the visible superior picture quality.
yeah, hopefully soon.
I had so many of my own questions answered through this video. Kudos to you, Caleb and team!
Excellent range of questions! Thanks Caleb!
I'm not sure if you've already covered this in another video, but it would be great to get a comparison on the 4k blu ray quality experience for both the PS5 and the Xbox Series X to see what the actual differences are.
Thanks for answering my question! I really appreciate it. Only recently started following you and this channel, but I’ve been really enjoying it!
Recently bought an LG C2 and your videos have been brilliant help in terms of setup and understanding the options available. I'm slightly worried that I'll spend on more and more tech as a result of your compelling content but that's a me problem!
Good questions! I don't understand the resistance to having a dedicated Blue Ray player. I realize that streaming is easy and initially cheaper but being immersed in a movie is not done without a dedicated player. I have a Panasonic BDP 800 and it's stellar, way exceeding any streaming service I've seen. For serious movie watching Blue Ray is the best in my opinion.
There is no better answer than you give.I have also the Panasonic UB820 (Netherlands) and I still buy blu-ray's these days because it's the best way to watch a movie.
It depends on what service you are watching your movies through. I use iTunes Movies(which is probably the BEST) and it's fantastic. The physical stand along player will soon be Obsolete. It's coming. The money that you spend on a quality player(with only a 1 year warranty I may add) and then some quality cables all add up. The same people that were saying that streaming movies were not good vs physical disc...that physical disc is the better way to go..said the same about LP's vs CD's and CD's took over. They said the same about CD's vs streaming music..and now streaming music has taken over. The same will happen with movies. Why do you think a lot of movie theaters are closing their doors and not as many people go out to the movies anymore??? Think about it. Here's an example ...I purchased Fast X 4K brand NEW physical disc. I had to send it back to Amazon TWICE because it kept pausing. There were no fingerprints or nothing on the disc. That same movie I also have in my digital library through iTunes Movies gave me absolutely ZERO problems. Go figure.
@@ratpat8474 I also have the UB820, bought it back in 2019 (I had the Samsung M8500 which had terrible performance) and never looked back.
Excellent points, especially the real advantages of physical disc vs streaming. I owned my nice big screen 4k tv for three years before it finally dawned on me that I wasn't taking advantage of its inherent quality. I still stream but have gradually built up a nice little library of my favorite movies on 4k blu-rays and also hd blu-rays. Owning your favorite titles on physical discs is so satisfying.
Yo same it feels good to have physical copies 😊
Was wondering about a couple of these topics. I appreciate the video!
Thank you for giving a few significant pros for still owning DVD Blu-Rays. I’ve heard far too much disc dissing these days! 😅
Caleb- great questions! Keep up the fantastic work! I’ve watched you evolve over the past 8 or so years and it’s been amazing! You produce great content and add a personal flair that resonates well.
Not close, disc much better streaming more convenient . New LED getting better and better with black levels.
Perfect timing for me this episode!
Love your work, here in Italy we don’t have similar channels
Good information that was clear, precise and to the point.
Most people have a soundbar and Blu-Ray player and just don't have it set up right. A few years ago I set mine up the way he mentioned at 7:39 in the video. Then changed the audio settings on the Blu-Ray played to a high as it goes. I was blown away. It was like bringing the theater home with me. I would tell my dad all the time to do the same. Recently set it up for him and he was just as blown away by it.
Thanks for the great info on TV and streaming vs blurays helped a lot.
That question from Germany is exactly my situation! Still using 50" plasma as it hasn't died and I don't like throwing out things that still work. And OLED is gorgeous but out of my price range sadly. But when it does die, I'm really hoping a good quality modern LED like the U7K or U8K will do the job nicely, and give me a nice size upgrade (thinking 65" for my room size).
Thanks for the info!
Same situation...my pioneer kuro plasma is still a great picture imo, would be a shame to just get rid of it. I just want to watch some 4K sources and of course, it can't manage 4k so i'm on the fence.
Same situation...my pioneer kuro plasma is still a great picture imo, would be a shame to just get rid of it. I just want to watch some 4K sources and of course, it can't manage 4k so i'm on the fence.
Very informative video Caleb.
Loved the questions this week, especially the "How do I best connect my system", and the "Replacement of my aging plasma TV" questions. I too wrestle with these questions, and am frozen into keeping my 64" Samsung from 2011vs. upgrading to a 75" OLED that I may or may not regret. We watch almost 100% DirectV content, and prefer a less "explosive" brilliant picture in my medium lit room. I don't want to end up with a picture that burns my retinas.
Love everything you put out Caleb, you are the only person I trust 100%! Please keep up the great work!
You can always lower the brightness...
Personally, I find my LG C2 too dim unless all of the lights are off, but that is uncomfortable at night.
All great questions! Especially the slanted ceiling as I have the same issue.
Great video Caleb , you are right about streaming I have a full theater not only streaming doesn't have lossless audio it also doesn't have super sampling like the disc does . The difference is night day .
Caleb covering any and all topics - love it
This is my first question and answer video. Really liked it.
Good and helpful response on 4k blue ray vs Streaming.
On Halloween night wife and I wanted to watch ghostbusters. Watched for a few minutes on streaming then we had a hiccup so I decided to bust out our blu ray disc. Both of us were astonished on how much crazy better the video quality was. Streaming has gotten a lot better but yep I agree the disc really is superior if you don’t mind spending extra money and the hassle of having to put in a disc.
"The hassle of having to put in a disk"......lol.
“Streaming“ isn’t the same everywhere, Apple is very good at it. Nevertheless 95% of the population don’t see or know the difference between physical it streaming. Streaming is getting much closer with new codecs and I believe in a near future, discs have no future; the issue is when you want to watch a movie and it isn’t on any platform…
@@ricarmigThat's a misconception higher tranport efficiency doesn't mean higher quality it mostly means lower usage of bandwidth.. which is always the preferred route of media corporations. We witnessed when Netflix went from 10Mbps or so to 1.5Mbps with slightly lower quality in the last years.
Of course they are keeping that ratio. They just need a couple of movies over 15Mbps to portray the idea of quality even if most content has extremely low bitrate.
@@absolutium you’re right on that but I mean, on BD the bitrate is high and the newest codecs don’t need as much. With AV1 for example, you can have very good quality at 15 Mbps. For most people and screens and sound systems, most streaming services are ok. My high end oled needs a little bit more but I honestly won’t buy physical media anymore or I have to buy a new house.
I really like Movies Anywhere but the one caveat is that the movies have to be from studios that support Movies Anywhere. Paramount and Lionsgate being the two big studios that don’t support it so those movies will only be available in the service in which they were bought.
If I remember correctly, Paramount and Lionsgate were holdovers from the Ultraviolet website. When Movies Anywhere was created, those two companies refused to align and opted for their own services - which normally goes through Vudu and Apple.
Switching from older 1080p plasma to modern OLED or the a LED variant the shift in color and brightness as your position around the room is going to be the biggest annoyance and most noticeable downside. Then throw in the black level and zone illumination. You’ll only be happy moving to a OLED. I tried the higher end LED option and after a year I replaced the set with a Sony OLED and moved the LED to a less used room.
Whoa, you're so to the point!! Great answers.
Outstanding Opinions and Factual information ! Thanks Bunches
I baught dune on 4k Blu-ray I watched it on my ps5 / LG A2. I was blown away by the improvement in quality over the Max stream. If you have a ps5 I would recommend buying a 4k blu-ray and seeing for yourself. It’s impressive
Plasma is still sharper and more clear than OLED, at least in opinion. LG C3 vs Panasonic VT60. I am not sold on the C3 so far in my week of testing. TV brightness is so over sold. Especially using really dim "filmmaker" mode.
Yes!!! I have been waiting for you to make this video!! As I have ALWAYS wanted to know if 4k Blu Rays are worth it versus streaming 4k via apps. Thank you!!!
This week's questions were all on my list of things to learn about! I have a Panasonic Plasma and always wonder what would be the best replacement option when the time comes. Also netflix sound quality is so inconsistent that I always thought it is a big downside of streaming movies.
Depends on what kind of content you play on your plasma TV. If 1080p movies, there is hardly any true replacement for the organic PQ of your plasma TV panel. If you are planning to watch lots of HDR 4k content then options are many (QD-OLED, mini Led) but none IMHO can beat the experience you get from your plasma watching SDR 1080p movies.
Plasma at the 600 refresh rate is hard to beat for sports. I freak the day my Panasonic plasma dies too..
Atmos is worth it. I have a budget up fire system, true its not like having dedicated ceiling speakers, but like you said, you get something. Much more immersive
Great video thank you. Please tell me, what compression or format the blue ray discs use?
I agree with you about owning discs. However, I have encountered quite a few discs that develop skipping, freezing and total loss of digital signal. I have since saved most of my collection on a nas and thats when I started finding multiple defects in my collection.
Thankfully my Panasonic Plasma 65" is still going strong. Just a 1080 but the picture to me is still amazing
He is very right about the Hisense U8K here in Germany. The Hisense models here uses the VIDAA OS which is highly laggy and has small internal storage that is inadequate for 4k content. How laggy you may ask? You will feel that it removes some video caches in realtime that it has a 20 frame cut for every 2-3 seconds of video watch. I had enough and just attached a Chromecast 4k to my TV. Stay away from VIDAA software please. 😅
Herbie Hancock Mr. Hands album @12:21. Great music taste Caleb!
Loved the last question! We ps5 movie lovers would like to know what our budget choices get us compared to the dedicated players and what not. Would love to buy a 4k player in the future just not in the cards right now. I’d still like to get a Dolby atmos setup too. Would love another budget video on sound set ups for this year.
I got a higher end TV when I got a PS5 and brought a bunch of 4k physical Media movies not knowing PS5 didn't support Dolby vision. I was so upset and pissed when I put in a movie and didn't see the dolby vision icon show up on the TV. Went to buy a 4k player that supports Dolby vision and couldn't believe the price.
Yep I have Maverick and the Nolan collection box set and the quality in the IMAX scenes are absolutely incredible. The early stuff like Batman Begins, Inception, etc. don't take advantage of it really but everything after that is amazing.
What am I missing? Maverick for me played back in HDR only and it did not include the IMAX shots on the disc
@@sinan_3384 On my ub820 it played the IMAX shots. Do you have the 4k version or regular Blu ray? Not sure if it does on the Blu ray.
Still rocking my 2013 Panasonic Viera Plasma, still absolutely stunning picture quality, as long as the room is dark, which it always is!
I was in the same boat as Gerrit, until last year when I finally retired my Panny VT50 Plasma, and replaced it with a Samsung S95b. The year before I bought a cheap 4K lcd Hisense for my son and was surprised at how not terrible it was. It definitely shortened the fuse on my upgrade. I’m blown away with my S95b, it’s better in almost every way.
Plasma is a 15 year old tech and folk still have them! For gaming they are untouched. Never get motion handling on a oled/lcd like a plasma. Built like nuclear bunkers.. Built to last!
Iv'e begun converting some of my 4K Blu-ray remuxes to AV1 which is a pretty slow process when using your CPU but the PQ is virtually indistinguishable from the disc while saving quite a bit of space.
Good questions. Good answers!
Really enjoyable technical content and suggestions thank you -- subscribed.
It seems the consensus is that films you enjoy and would watch again, that have a good quality 4K Blu-ray and/or Blu-ray physical media transfer are worth ownership. Streaming is a good way to determine this at a relatively low cost, albeit not likely at its best. Owning the 4K physical media after (often with bonus features & memorabilia like an album cover) will likely ensure a more pleasurable viewing the next time, and something you can look forward to, with no risk of the film being pulled or censored. Ultimately, see it in a cinema (like IMAX) in all it's glory first...
Glad to see you have great taste in music, Herbie Hancock's "Mr. Hands" was peaking out on your shelf, great album.
Movies Anywhere also tends to distribute purchases across your other linked services which is nice, but it only works with participating content/studios so if you like more niche movies you may get less out of it. But still, it's free to do so might as well
Big topics and great answers!!!!
Great support comments for blueray. My surround sound loves blueray!!
Good vid this week Caleb. Questions deftly handled with very little bs or spin. Just the way they should be!
I can only give my opinion based on the equipment I am watching on. 65" Samsung Crystal LED 4KTV, Sony 5.2 receiver with my Phillips/Magnavox MX940 5.1 system, player is an LG UBK90, streamer is a Roku Ultra. Personally what I see is that streams/digital copies have a more diffuse image. Like the detail is blurred a little and I think that's just down to the compressed bitrates they are using. Audio, I find that Blu-rays are a bit clearer at high volumes. That can just be the difference between lossless and DD+, but I even hear it with Blu-rays that only have lossy DD/DTS on them. Then there is the whole issue about ownership. You could have something one day and nothing prevents them from removing stuff. Probably very rare for that to happen, but I lost a couple movies when Vudu sold to Fandango because they didn't want to support Instawatch... I will probably stick with regular Blu-rays going forward until they stop making them which I think is still a long way off.
To the guy looking to upgrade to a 4k TV I highly recommend the LG c series. I have a 65 cx and 77 c2 and absolutely love them. If they are within your budget really look into them. They a popular for good reason.
I have a LG CX also.. best TV I have ever owned!
I have a Sony HT-A9 system, and I chose it because I just can’t add ceiling speakers. I’m happy with the results, but don’t mind improving it if I could.
What kind of panels would you recommend to improve the bounce effect of the up firing speakers?
Two questions for you:
1. Why do Sony 4K Blu-ray players require Dolby Vision be turned on manually when other players (from Panasonic, for example) can detect it automatically?
2. You recommended Movies Anywhere for better performance, but all Sony movies on MA are limited to 5.1 audio and HDR10. Is there a reason for this?
You set the HDR to 'Auto' and Dolby Vision to 'On', It'll automatically detect DV media henceforth.
@@Sas-wk9lj Nope. It will play everything, including non-HDR content, in Dolby Vision.
I always own my favorite movies on physical media. I was talking with my fiancé about this a couple weeks ago, telling her the differences between physical and streaming and how you just don’t get the same experience from streaming albeit super convenient…
And my Sony 4K Blu-Ray player converts all my movies to Dolby Vision! 😁
Great answers to questions about equip. set-up,hope 2 c more set-up tips for P.S.5 to L.G.t.v.,Denon recivers arc, e-arc soundbar set-ups.This channel has the BEST content around the web.🎉
Great episode
We need an episode just for the Blu-ray vs Streaming talk
Thanks for the video, very interesting as it’s all relevant to my current experience having just purchased an LGC3 77” OLED To replace my almost 12 year Panasonic Plasma which was the flagship model at the time, the Plasma is still going strong in my spare room btw, the new LG is on the wall in the lounge in its place, the Plasma was always a really natural picture that didn’t require any messing around, it was perfect straight out of the box, unfortunately the same can’t be said for the C3, it’s taken 3 months of making adjustments to get it right, even now I don’t believe it is much better than the Panasonic Plasma, it is better but certainly not by much, there are scenes where it is too bright, scenes where it is too dark, and sometimes the colours look forced and unnatural, but this mostly depends on the source material, when fed with a good source the picture is very good, it’s just more fussy than the plasma that made anything look good!
With respect to Dolby vision I personally feel it’s a lot of hype about nothing, so far I have not seen anything in Dolby vision that impresses me, HDR10 looks better to me, Dolby vision from Apple TV is quite terrible and much too dark to watch, although I have seen a lot of people on the net complaining of the same issue, it’s not the TV or settings as other streaming apps are much brighter than Apple TV with Dolby vision, but totally agree about physical media, when I feed this TV with a 4K disc from my Oppo 205 the picture quality is noticeably better than any of the streaming services, plus the sound quality is better too.
Again thank you for the video, as I said very relevant to my current experiences 👍
Best plasma replacement to me is the S95C. The way it reflects lights in the rooms. The colors. The warmth and the way they look are natural. Turn on BFI when necessary, it also has that slight plasma flicker. The Sony A95L is a good alternative with better BFI, but that price tag. And I think the colors on the S95C is just closer to that of my VT30. It very much feels like I'm still watching on my plasma, just that it can get brighter if necessary. Don't get an LG based OLED, they don't look like plasmas.
No DV isn't an issue with high end displays that exceed 100 nits, IMHO. Unless you do piracy and you download DV profile 5 content. In that case no DV is a dealbreaker. You can retrofit DV with something like a Shield and one of those HDFury devices though, which IMHO works very well.
Absolutely. My S95B is great and the next implementation is even better
I way prefer the s90c over the s95c with the separate connecting box. Think you get just as good a tv for less money
@@garrettstrutz7421 Well, depends. With the 55 and 65" it's a gamble. With the 77", yes. Pretty much (though there are minor software differences? You need to go into the service menu?). You do get 48 Gbps rather than 40 Gbps, which for some is an advantage. For others the one connect box is an advantage. And then the price (here) is all over the place, so sometimes they are priced almost the same, sometimes the difference is big...
Maybe to expand a little: IMHO the TV that is closest to those glorious plasma days is the Samsung S95C / S90C, followed by the A95L/A95K.
Getting the Shield (or Apple TV 4K etc.) to do the DV processing (LLDV) can be done with the HDFury Arcana (around $200 or so). There are cheaper splitters that can do the same (around $40), however they can't tell the TV to interpret the incoming signal as HDR, thus you'll end up with a washed out image. In any case the Arcana makes it easy: Set it to activate LLDV, and if you want adjust the nits that the TV is capable of. (Not sure how good that works. Caleb, maybe a topic for a video?).
IMHO it is dumb of Samsung to not offer DV on their better models... I do think they really hurt the S95C and as a result need to sell it much cheaper than they could if it had DV. The DV license can't be as expensive as how much more they could charge. I was willing to spend $200 to retrofit DV for example, and I know enough folks who ended up buying the G3 only because the S95C doesn't have DV... even though the G3 is significantly more expensive (and not as good).
Sony has better colour accuracy than Samsung and there are no problems with LG oleds.
Thanks!
Very nice cheddar chatter. I enjoyed it.
For the gentleman in Germany I’d recommend looking into a Panasonic OLED (we don’t get those in North America), or the for LED the Sony X95L.
I wonder what Atmos sound software to measure and adjust the actual sound such as that on the Sonos Arc would do to help mitigate the ceiling issues?
Im glad the blurray vs streamimg quesrion was asked because ive recently been shopping for a 4k bluray player agter a dispute with google over movies i "own" amd Caleb is right you dont avtually owm it wjen its digital because whatever platform its on has ultimaye control over it so im syarting to build be physical collection nefore they arw gone fureal.
ATV4K and the lack of Atmos Passthru makes the Shield Pro 2019 still my best go-to device for playing back my local media
Been on my Panasonic plasma TV since 2010 and don’t plan to upgrade until an amazing OLED comes out. I can wait 😅
I bought the Criterion Walle disc and played it initially on the PS5. Gorgeous looking disc transfer. If you are a fan of the movie, suggest picking it up.
Love that movie. Ill check it out. Thanks
Wall-E is an exceptionally great movie. Didn't know it came with Criterion release.
Quantum dot on the s95b looks sooo good. The colors and hdr content is literally, LITERALLY!!! next level. I say you don't need Dolby vision on the S90 models particularly.
Other than those Samsung models I would 100% recommend an LG G3 or even G2 to save some money. Picture quality is top tier.
Before this question had occurred to me, I bought a couple of 4k movies on Amazon Prime because it was convenient. It wasn't until offline view downloading that I made the realization: the file size was usually less than 5GB. 4k Blu Ray movies are in the realm of 50-100GB.
I'll be buying physical in the future.
Excellent video caleb !
How does my 2009 2.1 bose sound system compare to modern soundbars ?
It already feels great and can hear small details all the time!
My price point on 4K physical discs is $10. Black Friday is a great time to get them.
When my HTA9 works, it's absolutely incredible.
The problem is, half the time, it doesn't. If I walk around the living room - signal drops.
Certain shows cause it to have a fit and - signal drops
Nearly £2k for poor wireless signals isn't good
You Asked is a hit 👍🏼 and Long Live Blue Ray 4K !
Thanks Caleb. A question related to upscaling & smoothing streaming quality to 4k. Is it best to use a streaming device such as a Shield, Chromecast, Apple, Fire stick, etc... or feed directly and have the TV upscale and smooth? If a device, is there a clear winner? I'm assuming that the winner for a TV would be SONY, but just an assumption.
@Gerrit, this is my area of expertise as I had been the proud owner of Samsung F8500 plasma and the use case was to use it purely for watching movies off bluray player. No internet content. Its organic natural PQ is hard to match even with Oled PQ, no matter however many times you oled pro guys utter that, fact will be fact. I presume in here, there are very few which have actually witnessed Plasma PQ in person. They come off reading views and opinions from forums and reviews and have been conditioned to believe that Oled is not only a match but superior PQ. Don't buy that and never will, once having tasted the PQ of a plasma TV. Take it just like an analogy of the warmth of Vinyl record sound that new sound technologies have had hard time producing the equivalent. No wonder why they're going back to tube amps than the digital ones for authentic sound production. P. S. - I own Samsung S95C just in case you guys wondering I haven't had the chance to check it out to make a fair statement.
I'm coming from the Panasonic VT30 and went to the S95C. What I miss most about the Panasonic? A warm living room. The S95C is pretty good, and it looks pretty analog. Motion is an issue, but luckily not as big as I feared. LGs panels do not produce this warm and natural look though, no matter the brand.
Amongst other things, the support of these audio and video format is why I did in fact write off Samsung (although being a huge fan of the brand overall) and proceeded to buy Sony A80K. Don't regret it.
Never stopped using hard media. Started with Oppo players on the DV-981HD. Still using a 103D.
really great episode--I have been struggling with going back to physical media (I still walk funny after getting HD-DVD) and committed a fair amount of money and energy to blu-ray (even 3D!)...I have an Oppo 3D Blu-ray player (no more 3D with my LG C2, sadly) and have been really wondering if physical was noticeably better...I am now...intrigued. Will se if you have any suggestions on the best players!
Hey Caleb. I live in a Geodesic dome. Do you have any experience setting up a surround sound system in a dome with 20 foot ceilings? My Rotel stereo system sounds amazing, but my Vizio TV sounds terrible.
Great questions great video.