I love how this is basically just the Area Zero theme but with a pounding, more intense beat, makes for a really smooth transition and really sort of gets the player pumped up
I love the paradox Pokémon. Their designs, even if they're not neccesarily scary, they look threatening, like you are not dealing with your average friendly Pokémon, like the Ultra Beasts. Similar, yet so different.
No idea how they managed to pull of that kind of look for the past paradox Pokémon. Maybe it's all the sharp teeth and dinosaurian tails on a lot of them give them that unsettling ancient and violent look. The future ones being all robots already look quite unsettling.
Well, that Pokemon actually is the beast form of a friend of mine who is more than your average cop. If you know the game Lego Island Nick, a friend of mine from that said place that Pokemon is his beast form.
I like the synthy, almost futuristic tone of this theme alongside the strong tribal chants and percussion… it really sells the idea of a temporal paradox
@@shuichisaihope398 also some music that was used as an overworld theme that other music in the games were based off of. And his favorite gen 9 Pokémon is Daschbun. Of course it had to be a dog.
I mean yeah I feel bad for them as they confused and not aware of their past/future world compared to their original one and they’re just misunderstood. If you take em out in the overworld like what I did with my shiny iron bundle, they’re happy as they want to see more and fit in
@@pyroflare7774 It's fascinating how nearly everyone, that immediately resorts to calling someone a "kid" in an online comment section, is under 18 years old themselves.
Roaring Moon is canonically a prehistoric Mega Salamence. Proof that Mega Evolution awakens dormant genes in a Pokémon, just like Mega Aerodactyl's Dex entries have claimed before.
@@genericanimename6733 Mega Evolution may be gone from the core series games, but not from the franchise as a whole. It's persisted in the Mystery Dungeon games, Pokémon GO, and Pokémon Journeys.
Is it though? The only thing that points to that conclusion is that it looks like Mega Salamence, and AI Sada claimed that the Machine was one of Time Travel... but it being a Time Machine has one fatal flaw: none of the Past Paradoxes have any concrete in-game mentioned proof of them existing in the distant past, with one of them even being directly mentioned to not have any evidence of existing at all, that being Slither Wing in one of the Occulture magazine articles you can find in Scarlet... What's more, there is no proof any paradoxes actually lived in the crater other than the Scarlet/Violet Book, no mention anywhere else in the game of any of them being in the crater before the machine got built, and in fact it is unlikely the machine would have been created in the first place if they were, since it was only created so that the Professor could see with their own eyes the creatures from the Book they were so obsessed with. That combined with the fact that the Professor AI IIRC mentions that the machine is the source of all the Paradox Pokemon, which implies that there isn't another source in the crater, which might mean that they DID NOT already live in the crater when the research stations were built in it 87 or so years prior.... which casts the Scarlet/Violet Book being true into doubt. Of course, it could be time travel... but it also might not be, or not just time travel due to the lack of evidence of any of them once existing... it could be alternate timeline traveling, Imagination being made manifest by something, or some other theory, though I am near certain that the DLC will reveal the truth one way or another.
Only in violet dex if you played Scarlett you missed it. Some dubious magazine said "Might"(since we haven't seen this magazine and could be folklore like some past dex entries) Hold some connection to a certain phenomenon in a certain region. aka might be similar aside from looks but not really unless the dlc brings it up, which I doubt it with GF being anti mega. 😂 But it's neat that megas exist in this timeline.
Past pokemon: Survival of the fittest Future pokemon: Mobility is key you can notice this with pokemon with both past and future forms Great Tusk is all tusk and gigantic, while Iron treads focus on its ability to roll away Slither Wing has its feet on the ground while Iron moth just floats and finally Koraidon uses all its limbs when traveling, while Miraidon prefers to float when applicable. actually, a lot of the future forms just float.
I feel like the theme explains the situation of this part of the game perfectly. I’m Scarlet, the area and the Pokémon are more prehistoric and so the loud drums in this theme is appropriate and mimics large dinosaurs walking the earth or early cultures of civilization. The techno base and synth waves can be interpreted as the players because to them, WE are the future almost like we traveled through time. The same can be flipped for Violet. The Pokémon are more mechanical and portable for human use so the synth waves and base is an obvious for machinery and technology functioning in combat but the drums are interpreted as us the players. It’s a creative theme that can be played in both versions and because of that, it’s the best wild battle theme no question.
I'm not sure why but this theme sounds as if they all come from a world of dreams and imaginations. I don't know how to explain it, but like some deep neurological tripping is going on and you're seeing these Pokémon off hallucinations.
@@Garde_Mystik this interpretation would align with the "it's not a time machine" hypothesis sure, they _look_ prehistoric/futuristic, but what if they're not actually from another time? what if they're just what the professor imagined the past/future was populated by?
Just wanted to point out something I noticed a lot of people miss. Also of Scarlot's past mons are ancient NFE of pokemon we have in the modern day and age. Most if, not all the Past Paradox Pokemon are at their final stages without any external help (i.e. no evo stones, Mt. Coronet magnetism, etc.) which explains mons like Sandy Shocks and Scream Tail.
Pokemon Evolution might not even have existed all those years back like the common ancestor Mew does not evolve, all of the ancient legendaries don't either. It took some time for evolution for evolve in Pokemon and then it just became the norm.
In the first gen the evolution stones came from space. This is why past pokemon cannot or not have stone evolutions. Now mega stones also cane from space too
I find it pretty interesting how the Paradox Pokemon all have unifying aspects of their designs - Every past Paradox Pokemon is larger than its modern relative, has yellow somewhere on their eyes, some sort of fur or plumage functioning similar to hair, sharp teeth / pointy mouth areas, a fair amount of spikes, and at least one tail (Flutter Mane's "tail" being its one off-colored strand) - Every future Paradox Pokemon is robotic (DUH), is smaller / more compact than its modern relative, has colorful fluid flowing within various parts of the body (the Pokemon's primary weapon always having this fluid), have LED eyes that match the color of said fluid, and their interiors seem to be made of the same dark-colored metal with lines (Iron Treads's legs, Iron Valiant's torso, etc.)
here's another thing you will notice with Pokemon that has both past and future forms: Past: Survival of the fittest Future: Mobility is key You will notice this with Donphan, Volcarona, and Cyclizar's forms
I love how the music for Area Zero is slow and mysterious, as if you were stepping in forbidden and forgotten territory and when you get into battle with the Paradox Pokémon it suddenly kicks off and it has this feeling of fighting a creature that probably shouldn't exist, yet it does, and it's most likely very dangerous
Roaring Moon is the best, ressembles Mega Salamence and brings back the theory Mega Evolution is Pokemon returning to their forms in the past Mega Aerodactyl brought and has the coolest name. You're telling me you're not gonna run from a monster thats the ancestor of Salamence with the name Roaring Moon?
You know, the implications of the paradox Pokemon are actually terrifying. It's the fact that both the past and the future are mysteries. Mysteries we can't witness. We don't exactly know what kind of monstrosities or primordial beasts walked on the same planet in the past. We can't be certain how brutal and tragic the natural order of life was in prehistoric times. We don't exactly know what kind of disasters or futuristic inventions will exist in the future. A few of the future ones are even speculated to be alien weapons/spies. It's the fear of the unknown from both time periods, made manifest into the present. The reality of there being far more terrifying things from the past/future than what we already witnessed is...disturbing, honestly.
I do wish that not all of Violet's Paradox Pokemon were robots (as much as i love robots). That would only make sense if there was some disastrous event in the future that caused robots and technology to completely take over the planet. ...oh dear
@@riflezen6049 Exactly! That's why the future Paradox Pokemon are scary. Some of them could literally be superweapons, maybe even from extraterrestrial life. After all, if Deoxys, Eternatus, and the UBs exist, so can aliens. It could also be a reference to humans using Pokemon as machines for labor and warfare. Over time, they convert entire Pokemon into more efficient tools. They lose their natural beauty. Which is honestly pretty sad, and kinda dark. It's like what N, all the way back in generation 5, was afraid of.
@@IamHero_1337 dang, the odd numbered gens... when pokemon started doing crazier things than the previous gen Hoenn: environmentalists who are actually terrorists Unova: evil PETA Alola: Alien invasions (because hawaii is known to have lots of invasive species, and UBs are based on Invasive species) Paldea: Alien invasions + Timeline anomalies.
@@IamHero_1337 on the one hand, there's Iron Hands who has a Robocop story. then on the other there's Iron Valiant who's Terminator and Frankenstein's monster according to Scarlet's Occulture magazine
I love how mysterious and futuristic this sounds, just like the pokemon from the future/past, you can also hear some tribal chants in the background, love it!
I greatly enjoy the eerie aura all of the Paradox Pokemon give off. The prehistoric ones feel familiar, yet alien at the same time. Makes you wonder how all of their stats downgraded over the millions(billions?) of years. The futuristic ones give off vibes that the far distant future is a post-apocalyptic world where humans sabotaged the Earth to the point Pokemon became extinct. Then, these "robot" Pokemon were constructed to fill that hole, but ultimately wound up killing the humans off due to their terrifying power and lack of heart.
@@notshockwavedemon7543every paradox Pokémon becomes friendly when you spend time with them. Basically shows they’re alone and confused and you’re out here making them feel welcome
Iirc mass extinction events IRL sometimes caused animals to evolve smaller bodies because large ones became unsustainable, it wouldn’t be a stretch to hypothesize that something similar could have happened in the Pokémon world (we know that volcanism and asteroids both exist in Pokémon after all)
This music is basically perfect for what it's meant for. A feeling of unsafety, something is wrong almost paranormal. Foreshadowing a near decisive battle. The Pokemon that you knew didn't compare to those "alien" like copies living in this beautiful yet hostile paradise.
For those who aren't aware, this plays when you get swarmed outside of Zero Lab. It doesn't play anywhere else (as far as I'm aware). No, it does not play against the legendary in the post game.
Bro it should’ve played again when you face wild paradox Pokémon not related to the story. Hopefully the indigo disk we’ll hear it for the paradox beasts or swords even though they could get their own exclusive theme
Each of the Violet Paradox forms have a unique glowing streak of color to them, which I just noticed e.g., Iron Treads has a red one, Iron Bundle is blue, etc. Nice little flavor to them, and together they make up a rainbow’s colors.
I like how each of these paradox pokemon - are somehow more dangerous and some are cute - Have higher base stats as their original pokemon unlike the Pseudo-Legendary Paradoxes - Also tries to catch you off guard
I love it when things that are very evil plotwise have a very mystical and dreamlike aesthetic. Helps sell the feel that these guys are something above anything you’ve faced so far.
@@peashooter1695 In his other channel Mixeli where he shows his gameplay it shows that he fought the shiny Espeon, its in the video of all Paradox Pokemon battles
Iron Valiant is one of the best and sickest designed pokemon we've got in a long time. All of these forms are amazing but the Valiant sticks out the most for me (besides the legends of course).
@@spookysunglasses4004 The Tera raids. Since Area Zero is where the origin of the Terastallize phenomenon occured... makes sense a bit of what you see in the depths be akin to what you've fought those Terastallized Pokemon all around Paldea.
The scariest thing about the Paradoxes is that most of them have the same BSTs as the four Treasures of Ruin - 570. If they had gotten out of Area Zero, they would have absolutely decimated all of Paldea. It's implied that it took armies of Pokemon trainers to seal just the four Treasures away. Now, imagine a horde of such Pokemon POURING out of the Great Crater.
I feel like lore wise, Paradox Pokemon are stronger than what their 570 bst implies. Game's story emphasizes how they do not belong in our world and would cause disaster should they break out of Area Zero
@@notshockwavedemon7543 Well, going by their Abilities as well, the Treasures are probably just a little more dangerous. For example, Chi-Yu is technically the most powerful Special Attacker in the Paldea Dex, since its Beads of Ruin reduces the Special Defense of all other Pokemon on the field by 25%, effectively increasing its already impressive 135 base to 168.75. Only Hoopa-Unbound will have more once it's released via Pokemon HOME, and only by 1.25 points.
First Platinium of Distorion World. Then SM/USUM of Ultra Space. Now S/V of Area Zero itself. Dark moments like that in core games, Game Freak isn't screw around on those dangerous areas of pokemon that would get the trainers killed without caution.
Ok, they would be very dangerous but not as the treasures of ruin. Wasn't Chi-Yu able to melt rocks and sand into burning lava and casually swim in it afterwards?
This reminds me of what they did for Alphas in Legends. Add one or two details to an existing theme to add the idea of "these are the guys you don't want to mess around with".
Fun fact! All of the past Paradox Pokémon are larger than their (perceived) descendants. Likewise, all of the future Paradox Pokémon are smaller than their (perceived) ancestors, except for Miraidon.
For some reason I can see an ancestor of zinnia pulling up with a Roaring Moon while on the other hand, I can see a descendant of Wally with an Iron Valiant.
The Great Crater in Pokemon Scarlet is a great mix of Journey to the Center of the Earth with Jurassic Park then the Great Crater in Pokemon Violet is Terminator meets IRobot.
I know this likely isn't gonna happen, but imagine if these games got the sequel treatment, like Platinum or Ultra Sun/Moon. The crater would be a dysfunctional warzone of past AND future Pokemon, threatening to wipe each other out, and take the present with them.
I just noticed something about the Paradox Pokemon: Past Primal Pokemon are bigger than the present Pokemon Future Neo Pokemon are smaller than the present Pokemon.
I really do love the Paradox Pokémon, a true uncanny valley effect for these creatures we've loved so long to have these relatives where something is just...not right
I like how The paradox mons are mirrors of eachother in some way. -Elephants -The Brawny guys -Electric Mountian dwellers -Cute but Deadly Creatures -Creepy cave Things -Moths -"We have Mega Evolution at Home" -Toothless Moterbikes Edit: How did this blow up.
@@cybersoul2809 It's a little of everything. And people don't tend to be like "Oh, there's gallades in this pokemon game? Neat". They say the original one's name.
I think what I like about both the Area Zero Wild and Paradox Themes is that The Regular Wild Theme sounds more Whimsical in a way, signifying how Mysterious and Beautiful Area Zero is when you First Look at it. But as You Face your First Paradox Pokemon, there's more of a Bass to the once Whimsy Song, making you Realize that Area Zero isn't what you Expected, as Deep Down it's nothing more than a Prison for these Past/Future Pokemon.
It also enhances how dangerous it is, specially since you dont really know anything about the paradox pokemon or their behaviour yet they are very strong. In the gameplay you dont really get it since they behave like any other pokemon, but the music and the fact that you cant picnic there reminds you that you are just a visitor
I like that Roaring Moon and Iron Valiant are different from the others in terms of how they apear, Roaring Moon takes on a mega evolution while Iron Vailant is based around two pokemon at once (and of the same evolutionary family)
I love how otherworldly they are. I just recently caught both past and future paradox Pokemon in their original and their shiny forms in my Violet version too, so I'm super ecstatic about that.
i will probably never play these games but this has got to be one of my favorite pokemon battle themes atm. the bass the synth the slow tempo the melody its all so perfect
If Future Pokémon followed the same naming conventions as Ancient Pokémon: Iron Treads - Iron Treads Iron Bundle - Ruby Bundle Iron Hands - Electron Hands Iron Jugulis - Plasma Jugulis Iron Moth - Solar Moth Iron Thorns - Razor Thorns Iron Valiant - Jade Valiant Iron Serpent (Miraidon) - Cobalt Serpent DLC: Iron Leaves - Techno Leaves Iron Boulder - Horn Boulder Iron Crown - Proud Crown
They're in their Pokédex entries Koraidon is called the Winged King Pokémon in the Pokédex, I don't know about Miraidon though because i dont have violet
@@maisvousfumez-monsieur6882 Violet Dex Entry: This seems to be the Iron Serpent mentioned in an old book. The Iron Serpent is said to have turned the land to ash with its lightning.
Honestly, I find the futuristic Paradox Pokémon so fascinating. We'll probably never get a mainline or spinoff game that explores that far in the future, so we just have to speculate what it must look like based off what we see. I like the implication that all of these Pokémon are, in fact, man-made or artificial in some way which raises a lot of questions. They're designs are so uniform that it can be assumed they were created by the same entity (all of them have some kind of liquid element and LED eyes) but not all of them are 1:1 with their modern counterparts. It feels like with Pokémon like Iron Thorns or Iron Jugulis, whoever made them stuck pretty close to the script. They're pretty dang close, like they were going based right off of the source. Iron Valiant and Miradon, on the other hand, are widely different from their originals. Iron Valiant is like a mashup of the Mega Gallade/Gardevior and Miradon looks nothing like Cyclizar or even a Koraidon. It's practically its own creature. I like to think that whoever is making these started with the intention of simply reproducing modern day Pokémon as accurately as possible, but over time they couldn't help but start to let their own vision bleed in. Creating novel solutions for aspects that wouldn't work well in practice (How do you make proportionately giant hands without compromising the integrity of the machine?-Make them float; How do you design something with legs that's meant to also roll like a wheel?-Make the legs retractable) brought them inspiration to create new beings with the loosest inspiration from those that came before. Somebody in the future is playing god, essentially, and literally designing their own lifeforms. It's crazy.
Iron Jugulis’ Pokédex entry claims it had come to be because a Hydreigon procreated with a machine. The Violet Book claims that Iron Thorns is a being clad in metallic armor, implying it has become a Cyborg by natural causes, which is in fact a strange form of evolution. Iron Moth is stated to be from outer space. The Violet Book theorizes it’s a device from outer space meant to spy on humanity. Heath outright calls it a UFO in the book, and further theorized that Iron Moth’s only purpose is to collect information for a future “alien invasion”, as its only reported assaulting and following humans. Iron Hands is heavily argued among Heath’s team to be a person that went through technological enhancements. Only two Future Pokémon were said to be created by humans, Iron Bundle and Iron Valiant. And Iron Bundle is theorized to be from PAST HUMANS. Heath said he found earlier blueprints of Iron Bundle’s design, and traced it to a “long-gone civilization”. **Conclusion:** All Paradox Future Pokémon are confirmed to be from different points in time, with Iron Thorns being the furthest in the future, 1 Billion years ahead. Past Paradox Pokémon are also from different time periods, as a few come from the Dinosaur era, with the exception of Sandy Shocks being 10,000 years old, and Slither Wing not being present in any point in history according to fossil evidence. Scream Tail could also be an exception since chronologically, 1 Billion years is too far back, Earth didn’t exist for us 1 Billion years ago, but we don’t know how the Pokémon world works, so Scream Tail could still have existed with the other Paradox prehistoric Pokémon. Paradox Pokémon are confusing and incomprehensible. But that’s what Paradox means, so…
@@wrathfulseviper I take the Violet/Scarlet books with a grain of salt because they're only speculative, even within the game. The Pokedex is the same, due to having an established author of the current time period. It wouldn't and couldn't give us any more accurate information than the books could. Though they can give us clues about what the devs may want us to consider, they're far from conclusive sources.
@@sammyi2505 It’s irrational to argue against Heath and the Violet/Scarlet Book’s. Everything he wrote should be backed up by the evidence he found, such as the fossil evidence of Past Paradox Pokémon, and blueprints of Future Paradox Pokémon. Every theory put forth by Heath was said to be HEAVILY supported by his crew and other scientists, meaning even Turo and Clavell would be inclined to believe it. Not to mention most things written about Tera energy was proven true, meaning Heath was already proven right multiple times.
One of my favourites of the new Pokémon is actually Iron Valiant. I find it very interesting that, initially, I couldn’t identify whether it was a Future form of Gardevoir or Gallade. It was when I realised it was actually BOTH of them at once that made it one of my favourites. You can tell that was the intention by its cry. It’s a Robotic Fusion between two members of an evolution line. What’s NOT to love?
It's also specifically the Mega versions of both-you can tell because its counterpart is based on Mega Salamence, and also because of design details like the glaive forming from arm-blades in Megallade's design.
@@milk_choc7889 personally, I don’t think that’s the case. While Roaring Moon is clearly similar to Mega Salamance, Iron Valiant has pretty much only a few design cues from the Mega’s of its Modern Day counterparts, notably the Arms are from both of them. Besides that, it’s Dress is smaller than Mega Gardevoir’s and has the Green inside of the standard Gardevoir, and it’s Head Spike is straight as opposed to Mega Gallade’s being curved. Perhaps the chest lacking colour is also a Mega Trait, same with the hair, but I’d argue that it’s a simple fusion with certain Mega Design cues, rather than being _specifically_ based on the Mega’s.
@@FrostGlader Nope, Iron Valiant really is supposed to be based on Gardevoir/Gallade with traces of their Mega form. They're a direct counterpart to Roaring Moon and serve as the oddball out of the paradox mons (higher BST than the rest, last mon professor uses during their battle, they spawn more rarely than the other paradox mons, and they explicitly have traces of their Mega forms with RM being obvious and IV invoking the image of M Gallade's cape and M Gardevoir's dress with it's lower body in addition to sharing M Gallade's arm blades)
@@LittleBigPlanetian how many people think a LITERAL DRESS is like a cape. It isn’t and will never be, especially because it has nothing to do with Mega Gallade’s Cape and looks nothing like it. Said dress also isn’t similar at all to Mega Gardevoir’s, who has a wide, and pure white dress. It’s clearly based on Standard Gardevoir’s dress, with its green inside and thinner structure. It only opens wider to either showcase Iron Valiant’s legs and torso, or is a intentional design cue meant to benefit the robot in combat. The seperate segments point to the latter. Only the chest and Arms, and MAYBE the hair, are from the Megas. For the Arms it’s clearly from both Megas: the blades attached look like Gallade, but when the blades are a weapon they look like Gardevoir’s. I fully believe it’s a fusion, which alone makes the Pokémon stand out among the other Future Paradox Pokémon, with simple designs cues from the Mega Evolutions to make the design cleaner. Perhaps the Mega Gallade Blade’s was because Iron Valiant’s design was lacking in a Glow that the other Future Paradoxes had, which is notably only in its chest spike and hair when you ignore the arms. It’s 100% a Roaring Moon Counterpart, I’m not denying and have never denied that.
@@FrostGlader I’ve been inspired to conspiracy board the whole design. Let’s go. Legs are Gallade/mega gallade, along with the waist and upper body. Notably, the shoulders lack any green which would be present on the non-mega forms. The hair is a running motif across all Ralts evolutions, so this is where a lot of the fusion stuff seems to be going on. Gallade deemphasizes the lower curl in exchange for more puffed out white tufts. Valiant, for their part, has very emphasized lower curls as well as puffed out tufts. The tufts appear at the angle that non-mega Gardevoir has them, but there are only two spikes rather than the three that usually appear in Gardevoir variants. The pigtails have no clear analogue; they’re closest to Kirlia, bizarrely. The hair color contains no blue, which each Gallade does. The fun part now, that lower shell thing. I’ll preface this by saying: functionally, it’s a cape. It’s there to look cool, to flow in the wind, it drapes behind the body and covers nothing. It’s worn on the hips, but there’s no real term for a totally open skirt, as near I can tell. _(Someone_ is selling a waist cape, but it doesn’t seem like a very widespread term. Plus it’s a cape.) Now! Why is it there. Where even is there? At first, I had assumed it connected where it connected, directly on the hips. This would make it more a parallel to Mega Gardevoir’s hoop skirt, as opposed to the empire silhouette employed by the normal form. The edges though, jut up past the point at which they connect, which could be interpreted to mean they’re supposed to connect higher. It’s one of those robot things, like the black parts, that we just have to assume aren’t relevant I’m bored of writing this now, so, in conclusion, Iron Valiant is a fusion of Mega Gallade and Jenny Wakeman from My Life as a Teenage Robot. This explains the weird pigtail things, is another explanation for the waist cape placement, and explains why the body and legs take so little from Gardevoir. The curls are from the MLaaTR art style. As a bonus, Valiant has weirdly vertical eyes that are hard to rationalize for Gardevoir or Gallade. They were from Jenny all along…
Love the rendition man, you weren't kidding the EQ makes a fair bit of difference Have been in the process of recording it on guitar (fucking microtones man) for a week or so - I can't get over how well they've done this track Thankfully I managed to seperate out that bass track to avoid rerecording it - fuck it slaps hard
random theory: since some of the past paradox pokemon look like their megas and the megas draw inspiration from their past evolutions, it seems mega evolution draws on a pokemon's past features to empower it
I love every single take on the Area Zero/Terastalization motif that I come across in this game. It makes for such great musical storytelling to go from Area Zero Overworld to the Battle theme to the Paradox Battle theme and then the Final Boss theme. It starts off sorrowful and mysterious and gets more and more angry and desperate the deeper you go, just like going through Area Zero in the story.
That ost give the sensation to be in the space and bring back my wish to travel in space too. Probably the best OST My favorite paradox pokemon are Great Tusk Roaring Moon Iron Thorns Iron Jugulis Iron Hands Iron Valiant
Fun fact: Did you know that past paradox mons use only odd numbers for their base stats while future paradox mons use only even numbers? Well… except for Koriadon and Miraidon.
My programmer brain is producing errors why they future paradoxes are even numbers...though if you think about it, computers communicate in *bi*nary so...
Honestly wondering why Iron Moth wasn’t named “Iron Sun”. Would’ve been a cool contrast to Roaring moon, plus the design silhouette and colors match the name more. Just my opinion tho 🧐
they are very reminiscent of the Ultra Beasts, both in power, total stats and in code name (even if the Ultra Beasts ended up gaining pokemon names unlike Paradox), even the main legendaries of these games are Paradoxes, it's exactly like SM & USUM as Solgaleo, Lunala and Necrozma are Ultra Beast (all the media contradict each other on their status but in fact they share the characteristics of the Ultra Beast: metallic cry, Prime numbers in almost all statistics and all come from the ultra wormhole)
I hope we get more description about the paradox pokemon in the dlc ,they seem interesting ,munching orange was saying it could be the paradox pokemon are made by the 3rd legendary, which is a cool theory would love to see something like that in the dlc
It was stated that the past paradoxes were the Pokémon they resemble in a more primal setting (kinda like cavemen). I don't think the origins of the future ones were ever confirmed though, that'd be interesting.
Gamefreak cooked creating the future paradox mons imo, even better than the ultra beasts I just like how they created pokemon that aren’t normal creatures you’d see and they seem more alien
Definitely my fav OST from the entire game this far. I just rlly hate how it plays for only one section of area zero and then you don’t get to hear it again
Paradox Forms Names based on France Great Tusk : Strong Ivory Scream Tail : Scream Tail ( same ) Flutter Mane : Meche Fleet Brute Bonnet : Fury Fungus Slither Wing : Ramp Wings Sandy Shocks : Sand Coat Roaring Moon : Roars Moon Walking Wake : Serpentine Water Raging Bolt : Ire Lighting Gouging Fire : Piercing Fire Winged King : Royals Wings Iron Treads : Iron Wheel Iron Bundle : Iron Hood Iron Jugulis : Iron Heads Iron Hands : Iron Palm Iron Moth : Iron Moth ( same ) Iron Thorns : Iron Thorns ( same ) Iron Vaillant : Iron Guard Iron Leaves : Iron Green Iron Crown : Iron Boss Iron Boulder : Iron Rock Iron Serpent : Iron Snake
Here's something you may not have known: With the exception of the Box Legends, All Past Pokemon have Odd number Base Stats, whilst all Future Pokemon have Even numbers!
I wish there was a paradox form of Liepard, past or future, Haunting Shadow: Ghost/Fighting Scarlet Dex: It's glooming dark body blends with night so well, battling this Pokemon in night is impossible, if you're prey to this Pokemon, give up, there's no escaping. Violet Dex: This Pokemon matches a description of a Haunting Shadow in a dubious magazine as a Pokemon who paralyze its prey by its shiny white eyes. Iron Beauty Electric/Steel Scarlet Dex: This object matches with a creature from a dubious magazine as a famous future model and also used as a Police helping tool. Violet Dex: Known as Iron Beauty, this Pokemon is super famous in the future as a fabulous model and also a great police bug and sniffing tool. It fires electricity from its yellow spots on its body and has a near unbreakable built in armor. Stats: Haunting Shadow: HP: 80 Attack: 140 Defense: 70 Sp. Atk: 70 Sp. Def: 80 Speed: 130 Iron Beauty HP: 80 Attack: 70 Defense: 80 Sp. Atk: 140 Sp. Def: 70 Speed: 130 2 Fact about the two Pokemon: Haunting Shadow looks tough, mean and scary but it's actually a sweetheart to those it trusts and when a human gained its trust, it will protect them with its life. Iron Beauty has S tier dancing skills and is very good with children, as it will protect them and play with them if the adult has left for work.
I truly love this one. The Artwork sure was pain to work and correct! 😓
But glad it's done now! Enjoy those visual and the music too!
thanks pokeli!
Thank you for getting the paradox artwork for a lot of us! I'm sure it was time consuming
Cool, both Past and Future in paradox universe
Yeah bro i see the effort there, thanks!
Can you play do Cascaraffa theme?
I love how the entire crater area is both very futuristic and tribal
Exactly what I was thinking! It looks like some sort of futuristic exhibit for animals but looks so natural and untouched by people!
Yep; it kinda gives off Metroid vibes (Metroid Dread) too.
I see that vibe and love it but the music of entire crater also gave me the sense of “I shouldn’t be hear and I don’t feel save”
@@mynintendogamingfeed5208 Metroid Dread is underrated
Same
I love how this is basically just the Area Zero theme but with a pounding, more intense beat, makes for a really smooth transition and really sort of gets the player pumped up
All the tension and pace of the battle theme along with the oppressive nature of the overworld variant. Easily the best battle theme in the game.
FTL vibe.
I noticed some other places in the game do that too. It’s the same thing Fire Emblem does with its battle music and it’s fantastic.
If only the entire game was like area zero...
@@okcampione it is, if you go to any area the overworld music will sync with the wild battle one for that specific area
Listening to this while my Ceruledge and a wild iron valiant duel it out never felt more intense.
Ngl a duel between those two would be so badass
I also used a ceruledge to catch the iron valiant too
Badass fight between blades
@@agentdon1760 I wanna animate a fight between those two so bad
But I lack the tools to do it lol
@@MasterIsabelle same
I love the paradox Pokémon. Their designs, even if they're not neccesarily scary, they look threatening, like you are not dealing with your average friendly Pokémon, like the Ultra Beasts. Similar, yet so different.
Just like Ultra Beasts, I hope more are added in the future.
@@buggybasils more unsettling, but that could be linked to being scary
No idea how they managed to pull of that kind of look for the past paradox Pokémon. Maybe it's all the sharp teeth and dinosaurian tails on a lot of them give them that unsettling ancient and violent look. The future ones being all robots already look quite unsettling.
@@boiankomost of the future ones look goofy asf, Valiant, Thorns, and Moth are cool tho
Iron Bundle was a bit creepy looking at it for the first time, but now it's obvious to me that it fucks. Daily
They did NOT have to go that hard with Roaring Moon’s design but I’m so glad they did
spooky scary salamance
@@lunactiathemoth sends shivers down your spine
“According to an article in a dubious magazine, this Pokémon has some connection to a phenomenon that occurs in a certain region.”
how curious.
@@Mystsprit it’s almost as if Kalos was just next to Paldea. I wonder what phenomenon they’re talking about 🤔
Feather Croissant 🥐
Miraidon being a common Pokémon im the future implies Power Creep will be even worse
Mewsixes everywhere...
Well, that Pokemon actually is the beast form of a friend of mine who is more than your average cop. If you know the game Lego Island Nick, a friend of mine from that said place that Pokemon is his beast form.
@@aidandecavitte768??????
@@cheesusnt3302 schizophrenia
@@aidandecavitte768 Jesse wtf are you talking about?
*BEHOLD! THE POWER THAT THE ANCIENT PAST AND THE GREAT FUTURE HOLDS!*
5plendıd, isn't ıt?
@@ShayTheValiant ¡đe€d |t is
That Sandy Shocks almost swept my entire team ngl.
In1ersting child d0 you kn0w aichent and future pOkeMons weakness
Bro's Booster Energy Iron Valiant was pretty scary tbh
I like the synthy, almost futuristic tone of this theme alongside the strong tribal chants and percussion… it really sells the idea of a temporal paradox
I too
I like your pfp
this theme makes me emotional
Brute Bonnet existing is proof that amogus is eternal. You will never escape it, whether past, present or future.
Oongaboongus
imagine if they made a future paradox form that looked like a crewmate or something, the internet would self destruct
@@impossiblehanley2732 I'm kinda upset that the paradox mons don't have normal naming conventions...yet. we could've gotten gems like that name.
The universe itself is amogus
Iron Fungus better be a DLC mon, or at some point between now and millions of years from now, they gone
This gives off the vibes of confusion yet hope, I love the vibe of it
Thank toby fox
@@alebossdx9687 I think Toby says he only made the Area Zero overworld, The final battle, Terra raid, and Academy Ace or I might be mistaken
@@shuichisaihope398 uh i didn't know
@@shuichisaihope398 also some music that was used as an overworld theme that other music in the games were based off of.
And his favorite gen 9 Pokémon is Daschbun. Of course it had to be a dog.
I mean yeah I feel bad for them as they confused and not aware of their past/future world compared to their original one and they’re just misunderstood. If you take em out in the overworld like what I did with my shiny iron bundle, they’re happy as they want to see more and fit in
love how you put the legendaries paradox names of "Winged King" and "Iron Serpent", it sort of unifies them with the other normal paradox pokemon
Their pokedex even calls them Winged King and Iron Serpent
They aren't legendaries
@@pyroflare7774They're on the box, so therefore are legendaries. Arceus? Legendary. Ho-oh? Legendary. Eevee? Believe it or not, also legendary.
@@techno1561 sorry kid but they are PARADOXES, NOT LEGENDARIES
@@pyroflare7774 It's fascinating how nearly everyone, that immediately resorts to calling someone a "kid" in an online comment section, is under 18 years old themselves.
Roaring Moon is canonically a prehistoric Mega Salamence. Proof that Mega Evolution awakens dormant genes in a Pokémon, just like Mega Aerodactyl's Dex entries have claimed before.
It's funny that this game likes to keep pointing back to mega evolution despite gamefreak trying its hardest to distance itself from the concept
@@genericanimename6733 Mega Evolution may be gone from the core series games, but not from the franchise as a whole. It's persisted in the Mystery Dungeon games, Pokémon GO, and Pokémon Journeys.
Is it though? The only thing that points to that conclusion is that it looks like Mega Salamence, and AI Sada claimed that the Machine was one of Time Travel... but it being a Time Machine has one fatal flaw: none of the Past Paradoxes have any concrete in-game mentioned proof of them existing in the distant past, with one of them even being directly mentioned to not have any evidence of existing at all, that being Slither Wing in one of the Occulture magazine articles you can find in Scarlet...
What's more, there is no proof any paradoxes actually lived in the crater other than the Scarlet/Violet Book, no mention anywhere else in the game of any of them being in the crater before the machine got built, and in fact it is unlikely the machine would have been created in the first place if they were, since it was only created so that the Professor could see with their own eyes the creatures from the Book they were so obsessed with.
That combined with the fact that the Professor AI IIRC mentions that the machine is the source of all the Paradox Pokemon, which implies that there isn't another source in the crater, which might mean that they DID NOT already live in the crater when the research stations were built in it 87 or so years prior.... which casts the Scarlet/Violet Book being true into doubt.
Of course, it could be time travel... but it also might not be, or not just time travel due to the lack of evidence of any of them once existing... it could be alternate timeline traveling, Imagination being made manifest by something, or some other theory, though I am near certain that the DLC will reveal the truth one way or another.
@@cgoober2000 Pokédex says it likely has connections to Mega Evolution. Did you miss that?
Only in violet dex if you played Scarlett you missed it.
Some dubious magazine said "Might"(since we haven't seen this magazine and could be folklore like some past dex entries) Hold some connection to a certain phenomenon in a certain region.
aka might be similar aside from looks but not really unless the dlc brings it up, which I doubt it with GF being anti mega. 😂
But it's neat that megas exist in this timeline.
Past pokemon: Survival of the fittest
Future pokemon: Mobility is key
you can notice this with pokemon with both past and future forms
Great Tusk is all tusk and gigantic, while Iron treads focus on its ability to roll away
Slither Wing has its feet on the ground while Iron moth just floats
and finally
Koraidon uses all its limbs when traveling, while Miraidon prefers to float when applicable.
actually, a lot of the future forms just float.
Now I imagine Iron Valiant speeding throug the air like Metal Sonic.
@@unskilledgamer3642 aha i knew Iron Valiant reminded me of something not pokemon-related, lol
@@bunnyben87 ah yes, the black sclera, and red pupils. just like metal sonic.
@@unskilledgamer3642 i have the headcannon that (specifically) iron valiant is a creation/sidekick made by a tyrant from the future.
@@Patodeagua213 or you know, mix terminator and frankenstein lore.
I feel like the theme explains the situation of this part of the game perfectly.
I’m Scarlet, the area and the Pokémon are more prehistoric and so the loud drums in this theme is appropriate and mimics large dinosaurs walking the earth or early cultures of civilization. The techno base and synth waves can be interpreted as the players because to them, WE are the future almost like we traveled through time.
The same can be flipped for Violet. The Pokémon are more mechanical and portable for human use so the synth waves and base is an obvious for machinery and technology functioning in combat but the drums are interpreted as us the players. It’s a creative theme that can be played in both versions and because of that, it’s the best wild battle theme no question.
I'm not sure why but this theme sounds as if they all come from a world of dreams and imaginations. I don't know how to explain it, but like some deep neurological tripping is going on and you're seeing these Pokémon off hallucinations.
the drums for violet can also be robot mechanical sounds
@@Garde_Mystik this interpretation would align with the "it's not a time machine" hypothesis
sure, they _look_ prehistoric/futuristic, but what if they're not actually from another time?
what if they're just what the professor imagined the past/future was populated by?
Just wanted to point out something I noticed a lot of people miss. Also of Scarlot's past mons are ancient NFE of pokemon we have in the modern day and age. Most if, not all the Past Paradox Pokemon are at their final stages without any external help (i.e. no evo stones, Mt. Coronet magnetism, etc.) which explains mons like Sandy Shocks and Scream Tail.
Yea, they hadnt reach that point of evolution yet, for mismagius to exist, for example, there was still needed a lots of years
@TrainerblueTube Dusk Stone. Dusclops evolves with the Reaper Cloth.
@TrainerblueTube if you’ve used Misdreavus, you’ve essentially used Mismagius.
Pokemon Evolution might not even have existed all those years back like the common ancestor Mew does not evolve, all of the ancient legendaries don't either. It took some time for evolution for evolve in Pokemon and then it just became the norm.
In the first gen the evolution stones came from space. This is why past pokemon cannot or not have stone evolutions. Now mega stones also cane from space too
I find it pretty interesting how the Paradox Pokemon all have unifying aspects of their designs
- Every past Paradox Pokemon is larger than its modern relative, has yellow somewhere on their eyes, some sort of fur or plumage functioning similar to hair, sharp teeth / pointy mouth areas, a fair amount of spikes, and at least one tail (Flutter Mane's "tail" being its one off-colored strand)
- Every future Paradox Pokemon is robotic (DUH), is smaller / more compact than its modern relative, has colorful fluid flowing within various parts of the body (the Pokemon's primary weapon always having this fluid), have LED eyes that match the color of said fluid, and their interiors seem to be made of the same dark-colored metal with lines (Iron Treads's legs, Iron Valiant's torso, etc.)
I never realized that all the past paradox Pokémon had some kind of yellow eye and now I can’t unsee it
Iron treads name came from how hydreigoon was gonna be a tank dragon Pokémon
@@mohamedshabbeleh7948 tho, Iron Treads is future donphan
Iron Jugulis is future Hydreigon.
here's another thing you will notice with Pokemon that has both past and future forms:
Past: Survival of the fittest
Future: Mobility is key
You will notice this with Donphan, Volcarona, and Cyclizar's forms
These are all such neat observations!
Paradox pokemons in battles:👽🔪
your starter duck pokemon in battles:🕺🕺💃💃
My starter duck made Atticus look like youngster Joey
@@samsungtv1121my starter duck who i affectionately named “El Quack” was my best choice for my first play through
I love how you play this theme over all the Paradox Pokemon artworks, the theme really completes the vibe with how outlandish or feral they look
My favorite Pokémon? Gallade.
My second favorite? Gardevoir.
You can tell how happy I am with Iron Valiant.
It's literally a transexual pokemon
@@NaGd2 bro its a fucking robot, and dont ever say that to a scottish man
@@NaGd2 shut up
@spaceout6586 Get your transphobic butt outta here
@@NaGd2 Wouldn’t it be intersex if anything?
I love how the music for Area Zero is slow and mysterious, as if you were stepping in forbidden and forgotten territory and when you get into battle with the Paradox Pokémon it suddenly kicks off and it has this feeling of fighting a creature that probably shouldn't exist, yet it does, and it's most likely very dangerous
Roaring moon is just- Aaaah it's just so beautiful, I dunno why. I love it the most
It’s not my favorite of the paradox Pokémon but it has my favorite name out of all of them
@@Ascera_exists Who's your favorite?
Trying to Shiny Hunt it is an absolute nightmare though.
Roaring Moon is the best, ressembles Mega Salamence and brings back the theory Mega Evolution is Pokemon returning to their forms in the past Mega Aerodactyl brought and has the coolest name. You're telling me you're not gonna run from a monster thats the ancestor of Salamence with the name Roaring Moon?
@@-et37- I have a shiny and it took days but when get one it's one of the best in the game
You know, the implications of the paradox Pokemon are actually terrifying. It's the fact that both the past and the future are mysteries. Mysteries we can't witness.
We don't exactly know what kind of monstrosities or primordial beasts walked on the same planet in the past. We can't be certain how brutal and tragic the natural order of life was in prehistoric times.
We don't exactly know what kind of disasters or futuristic inventions will exist in the future. A few of the future ones are even speculated to be alien weapons/spies.
It's the fear of the unknown from both time periods, made manifest into the present.
The reality of there being far more terrifying things from the past/future than what we already witnessed is...disturbing, honestly.
I do wish that not all of Violet's Paradox Pokemon were robots (as much as i love robots). That would only make sense if there was some disastrous event in the future that caused robots and technology to completely take over the planet.
...oh dear
@@riflezen6049 Exactly! That's why the future Paradox Pokemon are scary. Some of them could literally be superweapons, maybe even from extraterrestrial life. After all, if Deoxys, Eternatus, and the UBs exist, so can aliens.
It could also be a reference to humans using Pokemon as machines for labor and warfare. Over time, they convert entire Pokemon into more efficient tools. They lose their natural beauty. Which is honestly pretty sad, and kinda dark.
It's like what N, all the way back in generation 5, was afraid of.
If the imagination theory is true then paradox Pokemon may not actually be from the past and future. So those eras still remain a mystery.
@@IamHero_1337 dang, the odd numbered gens...
when pokemon started doing crazier things than the previous gen
Hoenn: environmentalists who are actually terrorists
Unova: evil PETA
Alola: Alien invasions (because hawaii is known to have lots of invasive species, and UBs are based on Invasive species)
Paldea: Alien invasions + Timeline anomalies.
@@IamHero_1337 on the one hand, there's Iron Hands who has a Robocop story.
then on the other there's Iron Valiant who's Terminator and Frankenstein's monster according to Scarlet's Occulture magazine
I love how mysterious and futuristic this sounds, just like the pokemon from the future/past, you can also hear some tribal chants in the background, love it!
I greatly enjoy the eerie aura all of the Paradox Pokemon give off. The prehistoric ones feel familiar, yet alien at the same time. Makes you wonder how all of their stats downgraded over the millions(billions?) of years. The futuristic ones give off vibes that the far distant future is a post-apocalyptic world where humans sabotaged the Earth to the point Pokemon became extinct. Then, these "robot" Pokemon were constructed to fill that hole, but ultimately wound up killing the humans off due to their terrifying power and lack of heart.
Considering Miraidon and the Future Paradox pokemon is naturally considered "Ruthless"
Just so happens the Miraidon we got to know is just friendly
@@notshockwavedemon7543every paradox Pokémon becomes friendly when you spend time with them. Basically shows they’re alone and confused and you’re out here making them feel welcome
Iirc mass extinction events IRL sometimes caused animals to evolve smaller bodies because large ones became unsustainable, it wouldn’t be a stretch to hypothesize that something similar could have happened in the Pokémon world (we know that volcanism and asteroids both exist in Pokémon after all)
This music is basically perfect for what it's meant for. A feeling of unsafety, something is wrong almost paranormal. Foreshadowing a near decisive battle. The Pokemon that you knew didn't compare to those "alien" like copies living in this beautiful yet hostile paradise.
For those who aren't aware, this plays when you get swarmed outside of Zero Lab. It doesn't play anywhere else (as far as I'm aware).
No, it does not play against the legendary in the post game.
That’s really unfortunate 😢
It plays on the legendary Pokémon rematch in the post game iirc
@@SnailFeeder No it doesn't.
Bro it should’ve played again when you face wild paradox Pokémon not related to the story. Hopefully the indigo disk we’ll hear it for the paradox beasts or swords even though they could get their own exclusive theme
I wish this was the theme when you battle the wild Koraidon and Miraidon. 😭
Each of the Violet Paradox forms have a unique glowing streak of color to them, which I just noticed e.g., Iron Treads has a red one, Iron Bundle is blue, etc. Nice little flavor to them, and together they make up a rainbow’s colors.
I didn't realize this theme and the Area Zero normal battle theme were different! Cool!
I like how each of these paradox pokemon
- are somehow more dangerous and some are cute
- Have higher base stats as their original pokemon unlike the Pseudo-Legendary Paradoxes
- Also tries to catch you off guard
Especially that jigglypuff , that pink blob is strong as a pseudo legendary !!!.
@@alexmanolas1846 When you want to eat cute pink ball, but ball turns around and eats your head before you can realize. That Speed stat is no joke
Flutter Mane Iron Treads and Iron Jugulis aren't agressive !
I love it when things that are very evil plotwise have a very mystical and dreamlike aesthetic. Helps sell the feel that these guys are something above anything you’ve faced so far.
1:58-2:09 In the background of the Roaring Moon battle, there was a shiny Espeon. I hope you managed to catch it.
He did
@@angelacaraway7546 *Is what we all want to believe, anyway
@@LittleBigPlanetian No, he did.
@@1R0NV4L14NT Do you have the proof? I want to see if he did
@@peashooter1695 In his other channel Mixeli where he shows his gameplay it shows that he fought the shiny Espeon, its in the video of all Paradox Pokemon battles
Iron Valiant is one of the best and sickest designed pokemon we've got in a long time. All of these forms are amazing but the Valiant sticks out the most for me (besides the legends of course).
I know right??? A combo of both of Ralts final evos is such a good idea
Right? And the weapon.. so cool
It gives me Metal Sonic/Robian vibes, which is awesome all on its own.
1:13 THE LEITMOTIF. OH MY GOD. IT'S SO GENIUS.
What does it reference i dont remember
@@spookysunglasses4004 The Tera raids. Since Area Zero is where the origin of the Terastallize phenomenon occured... makes sense a bit of what you see in the depths be akin to what you've fought those Terastallized Pokemon all around Paldea.
@@spookysunglasses4004 the battle theme for turo / sada iirc!!!
The scariest thing about the Paradoxes is that most of them have the same BSTs as the four Treasures of Ruin - 570. If they had gotten out of Area Zero, they would have absolutely decimated all of Paldea. It's implied that it took armies of Pokemon trainers to seal just the four Treasures away. Now, imagine a horde of such Pokemon POURING out of the Great Crater.
I feel like lore wise, Paradox Pokemon are stronger than what their 570 bst implies. Game's story emphasizes how they do not belong in our world and would cause disaster should they break out of Area Zero
@@notshockwavedemon7543 Well, going by their Abilities as well, the Treasures are probably just a little more dangerous. For example, Chi-Yu is technically the most powerful Special Attacker in the Paldea Dex, since its Beads of Ruin reduces the Special Defense of all other Pokemon on the field by 25%, effectively increasing its already impressive 135 base to 168.75. Only Hoopa-Unbound will have more once it's released via Pokemon HOME, and only by 1.25 points.
First Platinium of Distorion World. Then SM/USUM of Ultra Space. Now S/V of Area Zero itself. Dark moments like that in core games, Game Freak isn't screw around on those dangerous areas of pokemon that would get the trainers killed without caution.
Ok, they would be very dangerous but not as the treasures of ruin. Wasn't Chi-Yu able to melt rocks and sand into burning lava and casually swim in it afterwards?
This reminds me of what they did for Alphas in Legends. Add one or two details to an existing theme to add the idea of "these are the guys you don't want to mess around with".
Fun fact! All of the past Paradox Pokémon are larger than their (perceived) descendants. Likewise, all of the future Paradox Pokémon are smaller than their (perceived) ancestors, except for Miraidon.
Roaring Moon's design slaps so much I can feel it hitting my face
It's so good I feel it coming inside of me
@@rei_cultist Vine boom
@@rei_cultist WHAT IS THIS NEW TREND
It's mediocre
Real it's my absolute favorite also with Iron valiant
For some reason I can see an ancestor of zinnia pulling up with a Roaring Moon while on the other hand, I can see a descendant of Wally with an Iron Valiant.
Funnily enough those are the aces of the AI professors
Iron Valiant is now my new favourite pokemon I'm obsessed with it
I also love Iron Valiant.
I too
Guess we're 4 now
The Great Crater in Pokemon Scarlet is a great mix of Journey to the Center of the Earth with Jurassic Park then the Great Crater in Pokemon Violet is Terminator meets IRobot.
I agree, based on the theme is about present meets both past & future
I know this likely isn't gonna happen, but imagine if these games got the sequel treatment, like Platinum or Ultra Sun/Moon.
The crater would be a dysfunctional warzone of past AND future Pokemon, threatening to wipe each other out, and take the present with them.
@@IamHero_1337 Good for a Pokémon Legends game idea.
@@LuckyTabbyStuff imagine if there's a mention to sada in a future legends game (since her ai counterpart traveled to the past)
@@laravioliiii2832 it probably immediately died
I still find it crazy they made a fusion of Gallade/Gardevoir and Roaring Moon's design is just too good
I just noticed something about the Paradox Pokemon:
Past Primal Pokemon are bigger than the present Pokemon
Future Neo Pokemon are smaller than the present Pokemon.
what about iron serpent (it won’t let me type it’s real name)
@@puppies3330 miraidon just keep going and it will get it
Like computer, smaller yet better overtime. Always improving things with the least possible
@@maxminota9921 well except donphan
I really do love the Paradox Pokémon, a true uncanny valley effect for these creatures we've loved so long to have these relatives where something is just...not right
I like how The paradox mons are mirrors of eachother in some way.
-Elephants
-The Brawny guys
-Electric Mountian dwellers
-Cute but Deadly Creatures
-Creepy cave Things
-Moths
-"We have Mega Evolution at Home"
-Toothless Moterbikes
Edit: How did this blow up.
Cries in Mega Gallade/Salamance
@@lampshadethisforshadowthat1050 and mega gardevoir too
@@benedictdakirby9919 It's more gallade than gardevoir, honestly
@@cybersoul2809 Certain..."artists" will disagree.
@@cybersoul2809 It's a little of everything. And people don't tend to be like "Oh, there's gallades in this pokemon game? Neat". They say the original one's name.
I think what I like about both the Area Zero Wild and Paradox Themes is that The Regular Wild Theme sounds more Whimsical in a way, signifying how Mysterious and Beautiful Area Zero is when you First Look at it. But as You Face your First Paradox Pokemon, there's more of a Bass to the once Whimsy Song, making you Realize that Area Zero isn't what you Expected, as Deep Down it's nothing more than a Prison for these Past/Future Pokemon.
It also enhances how dangerous it is, specially since you dont really know anything about the paradox pokemon or their behaviour yet they are very strong. In the gameplay you dont really get it since they behave like any other pokemon, but the music and the fact that you cant picnic there reminds you that you are just a visitor
The beat/tempo change at 1:13 is too good!👌🏾
I like that Roaring Moon and Iron Valiant are different from the others in terms of how they apear, Roaring Moon takes on a mega evolution while Iron Vailant is based around two pokemon at once (and of the same evolutionary family)
Ok but can we talk about how cool the official arts look
I love this theme and all the Area Zero themes. I have had them stuck in my head for weeks and I haven't complained.
I love how otherworldly they are. I just recently caught both past and future paradox Pokemon in their original and their shiny forms in my Violet version too, so I'm super ecstatic about that.
i will probably never play these games but this has got to be one of my favorite pokemon battle themes atm. the bass the synth the slow tempo the melody its all so perfect
0:32 - 0:46 like this sequence actually gave me chills and a big dumb smile on my face when I first heard it
The slow beat feels like it can represent the thundering step of ancient beasts, or the cold robotic movement of biomechanical lifeforms.
the art is so good. i love this song too it fits well with the area
If Future Pokémon followed the same naming conventions as Ancient Pokémon:
Iron Treads - Iron Treads
Iron Bundle - Ruby Bundle
Iron Hands - Electron Hands
Iron Jugulis - Plasma Jugulis
Iron Moth - Solar Moth
Iron Thorns - Razor Thorns
Iron Valiant - Jade Valiant
Iron Serpent (Miraidon) - Cobalt Serpent
DLC:
Iron Leaves - Techno Leaves
Iron Boulder - Horn Boulder
Iron Crown - Proud Crown
I did not know that both Miraidon and Koraidon actually had paradox names!
I think that these names were made by fans
They're in their Pokédex entries
Koraidon is called the Winged King Pokémon in the Pokédex, I don't know about Miraidon though because i dont have violet
@@sesgsi after doing research i found that yes winged king is in koraidon dex entry but miraidon dex entry doesn't use the name used in the video
@@maisvousfumez-monsieur6882 Violet Dex Entry: This seems to be the Iron Serpent mentioned in an old book. The Iron Serpent is said to have turned the land to ash with its lightning.
@@iiiddd2967 so scarlet dex entry doesn't use this name
Flutter Mane is just beautiful to me, I know it’s just Misdreavus but damn those feathers…
Me too! They done so well one their designs.
Past Misdreavus is awesome 😎👍 !!!.
hitoshi ariga's favorite mon is misdreavus so imagine the joy he felt when he had to make a past paradox of misdreavus
just for those wondering when this plays, it plays when the paradox mons gang up on you.
These alternative versions are cool. The jigglypuff one is very cute!
And Strong f !!!.
This is one of my favorite video game osts ever. It has such a wild and mysterious feel to it that no other track captures.
That beat is actually your Heartbeat as you approach the Finality of Your Journey.
And the remains of the end of someone else’s journey.
Honestly, I find the futuristic Paradox Pokémon so fascinating. We'll probably never get a mainline or spinoff game that explores that far in the future, so we just have to speculate what it must look like based off what we see.
I like the implication that all of these Pokémon are, in fact, man-made or artificial in some way which raises a lot of questions. They're designs are so uniform that it can be assumed they were created by the same entity (all of them have some kind of liquid element and LED eyes) but not all of them are 1:1 with their modern counterparts.
It feels like with Pokémon like Iron Thorns or Iron Jugulis, whoever made them stuck pretty close to the script. They're pretty dang close, like they were going based right off of the source.
Iron Valiant and Miradon, on the other hand, are widely different from their originals. Iron Valiant is like a mashup of the Mega Gallade/Gardevior and Miradon looks nothing like Cyclizar or even a Koraidon. It's practically its own creature.
I like to think that whoever is making these started with the intention of simply reproducing modern day Pokémon as accurately as possible, but over time they couldn't help but start to let their own vision bleed in. Creating novel solutions for aspects that wouldn't work well in practice (How do you make proportionately giant hands without compromising the integrity of the machine?-Make them float; How do you design something with legs that's meant to also roll like a wheel?-Make the legs retractable) brought them inspiration to create new beings with the loosest inspiration from those that came before.
Somebody in the future is playing god, essentially, and literally designing their own lifeforms. It's crazy.
Iron Jugulis’ Pokédex entry claims it had come to be because a Hydreigon procreated with a machine.
The Violet Book claims that Iron Thorns is a being clad in metallic armor, implying it has become a Cyborg by natural causes, which is in fact a strange form of evolution.
Iron Moth is stated to be from outer space. The Violet Book theorizes it’s a device from outer space meant to spy on humanity. Heath outright calls it a UFO in the book, and further theorized that Iron Moth’s only purpose is to collect information for a future “alien invasion”, as its only reported assaulting and following humans.
Iron Hands is heavily argued among Heath’s team to be a person that went through technological enhancements.
Only two Future Pokémon were said to be created by humans, Iron Bundle and Iron Valiant. And Iron Bundle is theorized to be from PAST HUMANS. Heath said he found earlier blueprints of Iron Bundle’s design, and traced it to a “long-gone civilization”.
**Conclusion:** All Paradox Future Pokémon are confirmed to be from different points in time, with Iron Thorns being the furthest in the future, 1 Billion years ahead. Past Paradox Pokémon are also from different time periods, as a few come from the Dinosaur era, with the exception of Sandy Shocks being 10,000 years old, and Slither Wing not being present in any point in history according to fossil evidence. Scream Tail could also be an exception since chronologically, 1 Billion years is too far back, Earth didn’t exist for us 1 Billion years ago, but we don’t know how the Pokémon world works, so Scream Tail could still have existed with the other Paradox prehistoric Pokémon.
Paradox Pokémon are confusing and incomprehensible. But that’s what Paradox means, so…
@@wrathfulseviper I take the Violet/Scarlet books with a grain of salt because they're only speculative, even within the game. The Pokedex is the same, due to having an established author of the current time period. It wouldn't and couldn't give us any more accurate information than the books could.
Though they can give us clues about what the devs may want us to consider, they're far from conclusive sources.
@@sammyi2505 It’s irrational to argue against Heath and the Violet/Scarlet Book’s. Everything he wrote should be backed up by the evidence he found, such as the fossil evidence of Past Paradox Pokémon, and blueprints of Future Paradox Pokémon. Every theory put forth by Heath was said to be HEAVILY supported by his crew and other scientists, meaning even Turo and Clavell would be inclined to believe it. Not to mention most things written about Tera energy was proven true, meaning Heath was already proven right multiple times.
@@wrathfulseviper Okay, okay. Yeesh. I just wanted to do a little fun speculation. No need to take it so seriously...
@@wrathfulseviper bro why are you taking that seriously
One of my favourites of the new Pokémon is actually Iron Valiant. I find it very interesting that, initially, I couldn’t identify whether it was a Future form of Gardevoir or Gallade.
It was when I realised it was actually BOTH of them at once that made it one of my favourites. You can tell that was the intention by its cry.
It’s a Robotic Fusion between two members of an evolution line. What’s NOT to love?
It's also specifically the Mega versions of both-you can tell because its counterpart is based on Mega Salamence, and also because of design details like the glaive forming from arm-blades in Megallade's design.
@@milk_choc7889 personally, I don’t think that’s the case.
While Roaring Moon is clearly similar to Mega Salamance, Iron Valiant has pretty much only a few design cues from the Mega’s of its Modern Day counterparts, notably the Arms are from both of them. Besides that, it’s Dress is smaller than Mega Gardevoir’s and has the Green inside of the standard Gardevoir, and it’s Head Spike is straight as opposed to Mega Gallade’s being curved.
Perhaps the chest lacking colour is also a Mega Trait, same with the hair, but I’d argue that it’s a simple fusion with certain Mega Design cues, rather than being _specifically_ based on the Mega’s.
@@FrostGlader Nope, Iron Valiant really is supposed to be based on Gardevoir/Gallade with traces of their Mega form. They're a direct counterpart to Roaring Moon and serve as the oddball out of the paradox mons (higher BST than the rest, last mon professor uses during their battle, they spawn more rarely than the other paradox mons, and they explicitly have traces of their Mega forms with RM being obvious and IV invoking the image of M Gallade's cape and M Gardevoir's dress with it's lower body in addition to sharing M Gallade's arm blades)
@@LittleBigPlanetian how many people think a LITERAL DRESS is like a cape. It isn’t and will never be, especially because it has nothing to do with Mega Gallade’s Cape and looks nothing like it.
Said dress also isn’t similar at all to Mega Gardevoir’s, who has a wide, and pure white dress. It’s clearly based on Standard Gardevoir’s dress, with its green inside and thinner structure. It only opens wider to either showcase Iron Valiant’s legs and torso, or is a intentional design cue meant to benefit the robot in combat. The seperate segments point to the latter.
Only the chest and Arms, and MAYBE the hair, are from the Megas. For the Arms it’s clearly from both Megas: the blades attached look like Gallade, but when the blades are a weapon they look like Gardevoir’s.
I fully believe it’s a fusion, which alone makes the Pokémon stand out among the other Future Paradox Pokémon, with simple designs cues from the Mega Evolutions to make the design cleaner. Perhaps the Mega Gallade Blade’s was because Iron Valiant’s design was lacking in a Glow that the other Future Paradoxes had, which is notably only in its chest spike and hair when you ignore the arms.
It’s 100% a Roaring Moon Counterpart, I’m not denying and have never denied that.
@@FrostGlader
I’ve been inspired to conspiracy board the whole design. Let’s go.
Legs are Gallade/mega gallade, along with the waist and upper body. Notably, the shoulders lack any green which would be present on the non-mega forms.
The hair is a running motif across all Ralts evolutions, so this is where a lot of the fusion stuff seems to be going on. Gallade deemphasizes the lower curl in exchange for more puffed out white tufts. Valiant, for their part, has very emphasized lower curls as well as puffed out tufts. The tufts appear at the angle that non-mega Gardevoir has them, but there are only two spikes rather than the three that usually appear in Gardevoir variants. The pigtails have no clear analogue; they’re closest to Kirlia, bizarrely. The hair color contains no blue, which each Gallade does.
The fun part now, that lower shell thing. I’ll preface this by saying: functionally, it’s a cape. It’s there to look cool, to flow in the wind, it drapes behind the body and covers nothing. It’s worn on the hips, but there’s no real term for a totally open skirt, as near I can tell.
_(Someone_ is selling a waist cape, but it doesn’t seem like a very widespread term. Plus it’s a cape.)
Now! Why is it there. Where even is there? At first, I had assumed it connected where it connected, directly on the hips. This would make it more a parallel to Mega Gardevoir’s hoop skirt, as opposed to the empire silhouette employed by the normal form. The edges though, jut up past the point at which they connect, which could be interpreted to mean they’re supposed to connect higher. It’s one of those robot things, like the black parts, that we just have to assume aren’t relevant
I’m bored of writing this now, so, in conclusion, Iron Valiant is a fusion of Mega Gallade and Jenny Wakeman from My Life as a Teenage Robot. This explains the weird pigtail things, is another explanation for the waist cape placement, and explains why the body and legs take so little from Gardevoir. The curls are from the MLaaTR art style. As a bonus, Valiant has weirdly vertical eyes that are hard to rationalize for Gardevoir or Gallade. They were from Jenny all along…
Iron Valiant looks like what would happen if Gallade and Gardevoir married and had a cybernetic daughter
I love how exotic this sounds
A true p@rad1se
I also love how exotic Gen V's soundtrack sounds. It's underrated.
@@hie4771 all hail gen 5
Pokemon from a Future and Past that don't exist...it's very interesting
I exist
Love the rendition man, you weren't kidding the EQ makes a fair bit of difference
Have been in the process of recording it on guitar (fucking microtones man) for a week or so - I can't get over how well they've done this track
Thankfully I managed to seperate out that bass track to avoid rerecording it - fuck it slaps hard
I really love how you've almost given it a swing vibe in the intro with the percussion - it fits so well
random theory: since some of the past paradox pokemon look like their megas and the megas draw inspiration from their past evolutions, it seems mega evolution draws on a pokemon's past features to empower it
Like a dormant gene?
@@crazyfire9470 yes exactly
Even though some people were harsh on some of the paradox Pokémon’s designs. The artwork for them makes them look much better now.
I love how some of the paradox forms' official art are doing the same pose as the modern day pokemon..
“Still the Best 2023!”
-Roaring Moon
Everything about the Paradox Pokemon and Area Zero gives off this oppressive vibe of "these shouldn't be here. YOU shouldn't be here." I adore it
I'm uber baffled this doesn't play every time you fight a paradox pokemon, instead it plays literally the ONE time
When worlds collide, you’ll laugh so hard you swear you’ve died.
Noice Spongebob reference
I love every single take on the Area Zero/Terastalization motif that I come across in this game. It makes for such great musical storytelling to go from Area Zero Overworld to the Battle theme to the Paradox Battle theme and then the Final Boss theme. It starts off sorrowful and mysterious and gets more and more angry and desperate the deeper you go, just like going through Area Zero in the story.
It was when my sister (Scarlet) joined my world (Violet) when I saw what Sandy Shocks's walk animation was like. That was a traumatizing experience.
Random thought: Does anyone remember the third Pokemon movie with the Unown? Remember how they created stuff off a little girl's imagination?
That ost give the sensation to be in the space and bring back my wish to travel in space too. Probably the best OST
My favorite paradox pokemon are
Great Tusk
Roaring Moon
Iron Thorns
Iron Jugulis
Iron Hands
Iron Valiant
Fun fact: Did you know that past paradox mons use only odd numbers for their base stats while future paradox mons use only even numbers?
Well… except for Koriadon and Miraidon.
And in the same vein, Ultra Beasts only use prime numbers.
Expect Naganadel who has a Speed of 75.
@@TunaBear64 Naganadel has a speed stat of 121 (11*11)
@@tangerinepaint3643 Oh I got confused for some reason, lmao.
My programmer brain is producing errors why they future paradoxes are even numbers...though if you think about it, computers communicate in *bi*nary so...
Honestly wondering why Iron Moth wasn’t named “Iron Sun”. Would’ve been a cool contrast to Roaring moon, plus the design silhouette and colors match the name more.
Just my opinion tho 🧐
they are very reminiscent of the Ultra Beasts, both in power, total stats and in code name (even if the Ultra Beasts ended up gaining pokemon names unlike Paradox), even the main legendaries of these games are Paradoxes, it's exactly like SM & USUM as Solgaleo, Lunala and Necrozma are Ultra Beast (all the media contradict each other on their status but in fact they share the characteristics of the Ultra Beast: metallic cry, Prime numbers in almost all statistics and all come from the ultra wormhole)
I hope we get more description about the paradox pokemon in the dlc ,they seem interesting ,munching orange was saying it could be the paradox pokemon are made by the 3rd legendary, which is a cool theory would love to see something like that in the dlc
It was stated that the past paradoxes were the Pokémon they resemble in a more primal setting (kinda like cavemen). I don't think the origins of the future ones were ever confirmed though, that'd be interesting.
@@ethnictendo yah
Gamefreak cooked creating the future paradox mons imo, even better than the ultra beasts
I just like how they created pokemon that aren’t normal creatures you’d see and they seem more alien
The past Paradox Pokémon are most likely from a point in time when Primal Groudon was active.
Future scientists really spent hundreds of years trying to create a competitively viable Delibird and SUCCEEDED
Definitely my fav OST from the entire game this far. I just rlly hate how it plays for only one section of area zero and then you don’t get to hear it again
That bass CARRIES
This my fav song of all Pokémon
missed opportunity not using this theme for the Iron Crown/ron Boulder/Gouging Fire/Raging Bolt battles fr 😭😭😭
This would have gone even harder for Tera Raid battles against Walking Wake/Iron Leaves.
Man I love how cold blooded iron valiant’s eyes look🥶🥶
Paradox Forms Names based on France
Great Tusk : Strong Ivory
Scream Tail : Scream Tail ( same )
Flutter Mane : Meche Fleet
Brute Bonnet : Fury Fungus
Slither Wing : Ramp Wings
Sandy Shocks : Sand Coat
Roaring Moon : Roars Moon
Walking Wake : Serpentine Water
Raging Bolt : Ire Lighting
Gouging Fire : Piercing Fire
Winged King : Royals Wings
Iron Treads : Iron Wheel
Iron Bundle : Iron Hood
Iron Jugulis : Iron Heads
Iron Hands : Iron Palm
Iron Moth : Iron Moth ( same )
Iron Thorns : Iron Thorns ( same )
Iron Vaillant : Iron Guard
Iron Leaves : Iron Green
Iron Crown : Iron Boss
Iron Boulder : Iron Rock
Iron Serpent : Iron Snake
I love France
As a French person i agree
@@AI-DreigonGPT as a British person I understand completely
What newer Showdown players hear when they go into Ubers and see Miraidon, Iron Bundle, Flutter Wing and Roaring Moon
Here's something you may not have known: With the exception of the Box Legends, All Past Pokemon have Odd number Base Stats, whilst all Future Pokemon have Even numbers!
I like how at 1:00-1:09 quaquaval is dancing and switching feet to the beat
Bloody hell.
When I first entered Area Zero I was totally creeped out by the music. It's so freaky and ominous.
I really wish this would play on every battle with a Paradox Pokémon and not just during the story events 😕
Iron Valiant looking awesome as always
I wish there was a paradox form of Liepard, past or future,
Haunting Shadow:
Ghost/Fighting
Scarlet Dex: It's glooming dark body blends with night so well, battling this Pokemon in night is impossible, if you're prey to this Pokemon, give up, there's no escaping.
Violet Dex: This Pokemon matches a description of a Haunting Shadow in a dubious magazine as a Pokemon who paralyze its prey by its shiny white eyes.
Iron Beauty
Electric/Steel
Scarlet Dex: This object matches with a creature from a dubious magazine as a famous future model and also used as a Police helping tool.
Violet Dex: Known as Iron Beauty, this Pokemon is super famous in the future as a fabulous model and also a great police bug and sniffing tool. It fires electricity from its yellow spots on its body and has a near unbreakable built in armor.
Stats:
Haunting Shadow:
HP: 80
Attack: 140
Defense: 70
Sp. Atk: 70
Sp. Def: 80
Speed: 130
Iron Beauty
HP: 80
Attack: 70
Defense: 80
Sp. Atk: 140
Sp. Def: 70
Speed: 130
2 Fact about the two Pokemon:
Haunting Shadow looks tough, mean and scary but it's actually a sweetheart to those it trusts and when a human gained its trust, it will protect them with its life.
Iron Beauty has S tier dancing skills and is very good with children, as it will protect them and play with them if the adult has left for work.
*Your Pokeballs will make a fine addition to my collection!*
-Iron valiant
I catched him with 1 normal pokéball
Theme of Flutter Mane and Iron Bundle getting banned from OU.
One of my favorite battle themes from this game