Yep! They are smooth as butter! I hope you get the chance to ride a Tennessee walking horse. They the same way, Like a luxury car! Used to ride a walking horse a long time ago at a trail ride ranch. 😃
American Saddlebred show horses are bred to naturally pick up their feet higher than most other breeds. They are shown with shoes on, however these shoes are NOT like the TWH show shoes. The TWH "show" shoes look like platform shoes, literally, and are heavily weighted and nailed in to purposefully harm the horse into making it pick up its feet unnaturally higher. The American Saddlebreds are NOT given that treatment. I know these things because I had a Saddlebred for nearly 22 years and started off riding them in a show-type barn. As for the parts in this film where the horse is excessively tied up while riding - that I don't agree with. A horse should have its head, and a Saddlebred naturally raises its head higher so it has a more upright look. It should never be forced in the way it looks in the film.
Liked the video but facts a bit incorrect I live in SA and show horses my self but they are not used on farm any more because of the horse being not as hardy against sickness and don't have endurance to be ridden the hole day The are also not used for vaulting in SA
+Trish Lane Don't be so quick to judge something you are not familiar with. My Saddlebred's sire was a Gran Prix dressage champion and his dam was a working cow horse, so they can indeed be used for anything. We did dressage, jumping, trail riding, roping, and he taught many kids to ride. He could have easily been used as a vaulting horse with his sturdy bone. He lived to be 34 years old so I don't think anything he did was detrimental for him.
Trish is perfectly right, a horse with such an exagerated head and neck set is not good for vaulting, it would get in the way, the horse needs to also have broad sturdy back and loin and not a choppy movement. Stability and strength is what it's all about. ~ Your cross breed exception doesn't prove the rule, it's merely anecdotal evidence anyway. ~ They don't make good dressage horses either, they cant even do a basic extended walk. The cow-horse dam obviously brought a great deal of usefulness to the table that the Saddlebred lacked.
River P saddleseat bred saddlebreds are useless. Functionally bred saddlers are extremely talented for both gaited and non gaited dressage. Their gaits are not over exaggerated, they have good muscling in the neck and back, and great dispositions. Something saddleseat horses almost always lack.
it appears that a lot of saddle horses still show extravagant pain based gaits. Are chains, heavy shoes - still used in training - Are saddlers docks still broken - so their tails hang to one side. -
+Trish Lane Saddlebred horses do not have their tails broken. SOME of them have a small nick put in certain ligaments underneath the tail which allows the tail to be relaxed and set more easily. They can still move their tails, swish at flies, and flip their tail over their back when they're excited, but they cannot clamp their tail flat. This is becoming much less common than it was. I'm not a fan of it, but I know horses who have had it done and they are fine. chains usually weigh 4-6oz each and are not painful to the horse in any way, shape, or form. Padded shoes are often used.
You are confusing the Tennessee Walker which is indeed trained with such cruelty that the Big Lick class is now outlawed in several states which of course it should be. that breed has nothing to do with saddlebreds
They do have heavy chains put on them. Also, the two legs/hooves are chained together, right before a class. They are then walked and trotted with the two front legs chained together. They are quickly taken off and then off to the arena... Sad.... :(.
HorseLover191 I Love Horses actually most walking events use Tennessee Walkers as they do a walking gait, as the saddlebreds that are shown in the video do a mush faster and more athletic gait
Pups@ Yes, you mine the " Tennessee Walkers " with the" Big Lick"...thats others.... Gives a lot of videos here! I'm from Europe/ Austria and I fight against this cruelty " Big Lick"
Lovely horses pity they move in such a freashishly exagerated way. Looks like the British do it best, the most natural with the horses welfare foremost at heart. Interesting to look at the pictures and footage of the history of this horse, they were never meant to move in such an exaggerated way, such a horse was useless for anything but the show ring. I cringe seeing riders pounding up and down on the horses kidneys all decked out in such a kitch manner. It's saddening knowing the "sport" is so popular in South Africa quite frankly.
@@tatorkator9901 You are correct re Hackneys originally bred in 17 Century Norfolk to have exaggerated strides + head carriage. Luckily the horse ideal and treatment/riding of Hackney's (horses and ponies) has since moved on. Interestingly, the IMO beautiful book Black Beauty was written initially, not as a children's book, but as a protest: specifically against Bearing Reins (which were subsequently banned v fast) and fox hunting (which took over a century to be banned by parliament) and other forms of animal cruelty! May God Bless Anna Sewell!
Your statement wil only be correct if the kidneys were under the saddle but it is not it is between the more to the back hind legs Saddles wont by sold if the saddle hurts the horse kidneys
I prefer the good old Quarter and Paint Horses who ,got 30 years ago a Hollywood Jac Granddoughter, still alive and looking well,I'm very proud of her, shes by a friend of mine on her ranch, the leading mare from all...
Had American Saddlebreds for many years. Showed and also trained. Love them. They are the best horses.
Look at these beautiful horses stepping very high without those horrible shoes on their feet.The TWH people need to see this.
I rode a saddle bred once. It was like no other horse I’ve ever ridden.
It was like been an a fast train. So smooth.
Yep! They are smooth as butter! I hope you get the chance to ride a Tennessee walking horse. They the same way, Like a luxury car! Used to ride a walking horse a long time ago at a trail ride ranch. 😃
Lovely Horses!
American Saddlebred show horses are bred to naturally pick up their feet higher than most other breeds. They are shown with shoes on, however these shoes are NOT like the TWH show shoes. The TWH "show" shoes look like platform shoes, literally, and are heavily weighted and nailed in to purposefully harm the horse into making it pick up its feet unnaturally higher. The American Saddlebreds are NOT given that treatment. I know these things because I had a Saddlebred for nearly 22 years and started off riding them in a show-type barn. As for the parts in this film where the horse is excessively tied up while riding - that I don't agree with. A horse should have its head, and a Saddlebred naturally raises its head higher so it has a more upright look. It should never be forced in the way it looks in the film.
BEAUTIFUL!!
Yea definetly.. Pff
Liked the video but facts a bit incorrect I live in SA and show horses my self but they are not used on farm any more because of the horse being not as hardy against sickness and don't have endurance to be ridden the hole day
The are also not used for vaulting in SA
The only horses use on farm for herding cattle and sheep by us
Great video!!!!!!!!!
I was trying to find my dads father name he did saddle horse Johan Venter is my dad :D
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They are one of the worst temperamental horses in SA because they are so fierce
Still cool video recognize a lot of the riders
Have of the people making a comment don’t know what talking about,including the man talking about it
saddlers do not have a conformation or gait suitable for vaulting - to use them would be very cruel.
+Trish Lane Don't be so quick to judge something you are not familiar with. My Saddlebred's sire was a Gran Prix dressage champion and his dam was a working cow horse, so they can indeed be used for anything. We did dressage, jumping, trail riding, roping, and he taught many kids to ride. He could have easily been used as a vaulting horse with his sturdy bone. He lived to be 34 years old so I don't think anything he did was detrimental for him.
Trish is perfectly right, a horse with such an exagerated head and neck set is not good for vaulting, it would get in the way, the horse needs to also have broad sturdy back and loin and not a choppy movement. Stability and strength is what it's all about.
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Your cross breed exception doesn't prove the rule, it's merely anecdotal evidence anyway.
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They don't make good dressage horses either, they cant even do a basic extended walk. The cow-horse dam obviously brought a great deal of usefulness to the table that the Saddlebred lacked.
River P saddleseat bred saddlebreds are useless. Functionally bred saddlers are extremely talented for both gaited and non gaited dressage. Their gaits are not over exaggerated, they have good muscling in the neck and back, and great dispositions. Something saddleseat horses almost always lack.
Trish Lane b
it appears that a lot of saddle horses still show extravagant pain based gaits. Are chains, heavy shoes - still used in training - Are saddlers docks still broken - so their tails hang to one side. -
Actually I own a saddlebred and I don't believe that in this time any of hat is true
+Trish Lane Saddlebred horses do not have their tails broken. SOME of them have a small nick put in certain ligaments underneath the tail which allows the tail to be relaxed and set more easily. They can still move their tails, swish at flies, and flip their tail over their back when they're excited, but they cannot clamp their tail flat. This is becoming much less common than it was. I'm not a fan of it, but I know horses who have had it done and they are fine.
chains usually weigh 4-6oz each and are not painful to the horse in any way, shape, or form. Padded shoes are often used.
You are confusing the Tennessee Walker which is indeed trained with such cruelty that the Big Lick class is now outlawed in several states which of course it should be. that breed has nothing to do with saddlebreds
They do have heavy chains put on them. Also, the two legs/hooves are chained together, right before a class. They are then walked and trotted with the two front legs chained together. They are quickly taken off and then off to the arena... Sad.... :(.
Syn you are so wrong about the tails
Most of these horses are used for "walking horse" events so most are abused!
HorseLover191 I Love Horses actually most walking events use Tennessee Walkers as they do a walking gait, as the saddlebreds that are shown in the video do a mush faster and more athletic gait
Pups, you are mixed up. Saddlebreds are not Tennessee walkers and don't gait or show like them. Two completely different horses.
Pups@ Yes, you mine the " Tennessee Walkers " with the" Big Lick"...thats others....
Gives a lot of videos here! I'm from Europe/ Austria and I fight against this cruelty " Big Lick"
Lovely horses pity they move in such a freashishly exagerated way. Looks like the British do it best, the most natural with the horses welfare foremost at heart. Interesting to look at the pictures and footage of the history of this horse, they were never meant to move in such an exaggerated way, such a horse was useless for anything but the show ring. I cringe seeing riders pounding up and down on the horses kidneys all decked out in such a kitch manner. It's saddening knowing the "sport" is so popular in South Africa quite frankly.
The British made the hackney. Your point is invalid.
@@tatorkator9901 You are correct re Hackneys originally bred in 17 Century Norfolk to have exaggerated strides + head carriage. Luckily the horse ideal and treatment/riding of Hackney's (horses and ponies) has since moved on. Interestingly, the IMO beautiful book Black Beauty was written initially, not as a children's book, but as a protest: specifically against Bearing Reins (which were subsequently banned v fast) and fox hunting (which took over a century to be banned by parliament) and other forms of animal cruelty! May God Bless Anna Sewell!
Your statement wil only be correct if the kidneys were under the saddle but it is not it is between the more to the back hind legs
Saddles wont by sold if the saddle hurts the horse kidneys
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I prefer the good old Quarter and Paint Horses who ,got 30 years ago a Hollywood Jac Granddoughter, still alive and looking well,I'm very proud of her, shes by a friend of mine on her ranch, the leading mare from all...