ANKER SOLIX F3800: EV Charging and Home Backup, Testing and Review

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  • We are testing and reviewing the new Anker Solix F3800. This is a powerful portable power station. Sometimes known as a "solar generator". This is a large, powerful model. It has a 6,000W (6kW) inverter built-in. What's even more impressive, the inverter outputs both 120V and 240V AC power (split-phase). This means you can back-up your whole house in a power outage. This also means we can run 240V loads such as charging an electric vehicle.
    There is a 3.8kWh battery built-in. This battery can be used pretty quickly if you are drawing a lot (ex. charging an EV). Fortunately, Anker thought of this an allows expansion with additional batteries.
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    Chapters:
    Intro: 00:00
    Capacity Test: 01:38
    Generator Plug: 03:30
    EV Charging: 06:29
    Solar Charging: 10:33
    Power Tools, Heavy Loads: 13:56
    Conclusion: 16:25
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    Disclaimer:
    My videos are in no way intended to be instructional "how-to" lessons. I am simply documenting my project for informational purposes. Property damage, personal injury, or death may result, even when following manufacturer's instructions. I cannot be held liable for such damage or injury. It is YOUR OBLIGATION to ensure that you are complying with any local and federal laws as well as code and permit requirements.
    David Poz, LLC
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  • @cmoreno195
    @cmoreno195 5 місяців тому +8

    Love the dads reaction when he said 12 miles

    • @SmittyJay4040
      @SmittyJay4040 2 місяці тому

      Did you caught the time it took to add that 12 miles/

  • @gregf9160
    @gregf9160 7 місяців тому +3

    Fantastic video analysis, fella. Thanks for taking the time to do this! I'm amazed 🤩 🤗

  • @wagnerfamily4229
    @wagnerfamily4229 7 місяців тому +28

    Does it allow simultaneous charging and discharging?

    • @580guru
      @580guru 7 місяців тому +1

      Great question!

    • @iandonlin9279
      @iandonlin9279 4 місяці тому +2

      It's complicated. Basically, if the unit is outputting 240v it can only charge via Solar. If you are outputting 120v through the built in outlets it can be charged using the 120v charge cable or solar, but not at the same time. I believe that if charging with the 120v power cable turns on it will stop solar charging.

  • @gliveron
    @gliveron 6 місяців тому +1

    Great demos sir, well done and much appreciated. Thanks for doing all the hard work and especially for sharing with us all.

  • @yankey4
    @yankey4 7 місяців тому +2

    This is a real cool setup. Love that it can plug into the house. The build was cute. Thanks for sharing this with us. Now I can show my boating friends this. It look like this is just what they need for there small spaces. With it being so compact. They could even take it home after there time on there boats. God Bless brother..

  • @takashisakai8625
    @takashisakai8625 Місяць тому +1

    This was really comprehensive. Thanks for the dedication sir.

  • @ssteele1812
    @ssteele1812 7 місяців тому +4

    Hey David, When you send them your review, mention that the 50A outlet should be rotated 90 degrees so that cord blocks off the 20A outlets to prevent overloading the unit. This will also help reduce strain on the outlet. Ground terminal goes on the bottom.

  • @jacquesdutron9954
    @jacquesdutron9954 7 місяців тому +4

    Thx a lot DTG, you're still one of the kind in what do. I finally found what I needed in the solar industry and won't be looking for anything else. Signature solar is my final stop. With 2 EG4 PowerPro WallMount and the EG4 18K-PV, I'm set for good. I couldn't be happier. Once again thx a lot for making my journey interesting.

    • @naturewrx7223
      @naturewrx7223 6 місяців тому

      Same, I was going to go with the schneider electric inverters but before I got the building permit the 18kpv came out so I'm going with those since I can stack more power togeter.

  • @neilwani1178
    @neilwani1178 7 місяців тому +3

    These types of devices will be the future in every house. Just amazing we are getting 240 volts out of these.

  • @heart4Pahoa
    @heart4Pahoa 7 місяців тому +3

    Well this just went to the top of my list. I would like to know more about add-on batteries though.

  • @rockcrusher4636
    @rockcrusher4636 7 місяців тому +1

    Great stuff as always, dude that chip board door and wall is nasty, something to put some energy into. Cheers.

  • @grindychum
    @grindychum 7 місяців тому +17

    The first power station with a 240v and No Hub attachment!The biggest disapoinment is the 60V solar input. With a unit of this size it needs at least 100v so you could do 3 panels (200-350w size) in series. What is the max solar input on this unit? What's the V&A of those panels?

    • @TheStopwatchGod
      @TheStopwatchGod 7 місяців тому

      Nah with the support for 5-6 expansion batteries it needs to be at least 500V and several kilowatts of solar input

    • @davepergola
      @davepergola 7 місяців тому

      The kickstarter went live yesterday, it does allow for a hub for a (discounted) $750 US I believe.

  • @chuxxsss
    @chuxxsss 7 місяців тому +2

    Well done, on the kids house.

  • @haroldmarsh5156
    @haroldmarsh5156 7 місяців тому

    Awesome VID

  • @leafnutz2341
    @leafnutz2341 7 місяців тому +2

    As with the Anker 767, the Qcell 480 watt bifacial panel with it's 53.38v VOC is nearly taylor made for this unit.

  • @deuspax
    @deuspax 7 місяців тому +3

    Hi, the battery capacity is 3.8kWh so the actual capacity out of inverter at a regime of consume of 1.6kW it's 3.3kWh

  • @user-ol6rd7pl5t
    @user-ol6rd7pl5t 7 місяців тому +2

    A much better option than a petrol generator as the connection can be placed indoors because you don't have to worry about generator fumes, plus a lot quieter too.

  • @AlexTitelman
    @AlexTitelman 7 місяців тому

    This looks awesome! Great video! We have a well pump that I'm sure this could handle during power outages.

  • @offgridwanabe
    @offgridwanabe 7 місяців тому +4

    Nice I like all the smart options on it and that it can do 240 volts. 50 amp plug but it can only do 24 amps must be the connection point for the future lol. Not sure if you showed us that you can charge and use at the same time and whether it passed the ups test for computers but all is good and thanks for the review definitely on the list for when they start selling it. I so much want an electric vehicle with a two way charger.

    • @todkapuz
      @todkapuz 7 місяців тому +1

      14-50 plug is just a very common plug used by EVSEs today ("car chargers"), basically an unofficial 'standard' mostly because of how common it is at RV parks etc ... but yeah it does require an EVSE that can be bumped down if the supply can't handle the full 40 amps allowed to be pulled by NEC for that plug. Sadly most cars come with EVSE that will only pull 30 or 32 amps, but that is still more than the 25 amps of this.

  • @janosszabo98
    @janosszabo98 7 місяців тому +2

    Watching this, I'm starting to realize how far the energy storage technology is away from ideal. I mean, 8% capacity used to make a few cuts, with the size of the unit? If you want to reach the ultimate goal of storing enough power in the summer to last through the whole winter without supplemental power (running a generator), then right now, with the latest technology, you would need a battery the size of a house.
    It's interesting that we have a pretty good sense about pretty much everything. If you ever done any painting, looking at a can of paint, you know roughly the area it'll cover, or filling up your car, you know a certain amount of fuel will take you a certain distance, but we don't really have the same concept in our brain (at least in mine) about electricity. It's just some magic running through a wire. This video starting to put things into perspective.

  • @timfish
    @timfish 7 місяців тому +3

    What do you reckon the internal battery voltage is in these? 12v? 24? 48v?

  • @codycurry91
    @codycurry91 7 місяців тому +2

    I’m wondering if you can plug it into the solar input and AC output at the same time… will it damage the unit?

  • @CaptBill69
    @CaptBill69 7 місяців тому

    Looks like great home grid backup with limited solar input option. Like reading you can expand battery kWh. Wondering about projected price ??? (my brief research did not find that) ??? Looks like you are testing a prototype version which passed your excellent Demo + Testing. 👍Thanks 🌠

  • @PeaceChanel
    @PeaceChanel 7 місяців тому +1

    Thank You for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste 🙏🏻 😊 🌈 ✌ ☮ ❤

  • @aflyingmodem
    @aflyingmodem 7 місяців тому

    even though the testing was kind of flawed and the device not shown in it's best light thanks for the data points

  • @cdfornal
    @cdfornal 7 місяців тому +1

    Can you be charging solar and 120V in (say a small inverter generator) and outputting 240?

  • @leafnutz2341
    @leafnutz2341 7 місяців тому +2

    Does it support simultaneous AC and DC charging?

  • @InimitaPaul
    @InimitaPaul 7 місяців тому

    I may have missed it, did you mention how many watts that 6k inverter uses on its own and can you turn it off to use a micro inverter with the unit?

  • @JohnSmith-wt3mw
    @JohnSmith-wt3mw 7 місяців тому

    Will it AC charge while using 240v? Say from a gas generator. Ecoflow wont when the double voltage hub is use. Only DC input charges

  • @bdtang
    @bdtang 7 місяців тому

    Really curious if you can still use the 240v 14-50 outlet will charging via solar - specs said no to charging via AC and 240v output at the same time but really curious with solar.

  • @nubliniwaserfaztman7119
    @nubliniwaserfaztman7119 7 місяців тому

    Yes, it is Trex. I’ve called their headquarters and maybe they’re just lazy because they’re not gonna sell a lot but I need one board the long one and that’s it. Unfortunately it’s either that or I have to replace the whole deck to make it match. I also find that the deck does change. If you have it covered up, it’s light sensitive and if you ever find that there is a Difference in color just leave it in the sun uncovered, and it will all start to match again. Your color is the exact color that I need but I need one long board. Thanks for getting back to me so quick and I left you another comment or question about the generator because I have the 767 and 760 and was wondering about its compatibility with the unit you just tested

  • @RedBatteryHead
    @RedBatteryHead 7 місяців тому

    It's a pretty nice off grid unit.

  • @robertrice4441
    @robertrice4441 7 місяців тому

    What is the self discharge amount over time with the unit turned off? My Anker 757 when completely turned off, self discharges at the rate of about 1% per day which I feel is too much. Also. Will this unit accept solar charging automatically if the solar panels are left plugged in over night? My Anker 757 will not.

  • @CherokezPittman
    @CherokezPittman 5 місяців тому

    Reply: That's a great video and a clever title choice! Backing up is so important, whether it's our digital files or our power sources during outdoor adventures. I highly recommend the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series for reliable backup power. It's versatile, durable, and has a massive capacity, perfect for camping trips and ensuring uninterrupted family time. Stay powered up and enjoy those outdoor adventures! 👍🏕🔋

  • @user-gk9pl3pp8e
    @user-gk9pl3pp8e 6 місяців тому

    It is a cool product, David! Do you need lithium batteries to match your energy system? please let me know.

  • @tm510a
    @tm510a 7 місяців тому +1

    Delta eco flow pro can handle 150 volts and 1600 watts of solar. Two units combined can handle 3200 watts of solar and can discharge while charging. That is more practical even if you have to parallel 2 units together.

  • @elbaby2001
    @elbaby2001 2 місяці тому

    When you tested it on the house, before you turn on the stove and micro, was the fridge plugged in? Can it handle the house AC unit? This looks like an great thing to have for back up.

  • @owevideo9663
    @owevideo9663 4 місяці тому

    Can you post some manufacture and tech info on the six solar panels you used in this video and a diagram for how you wired in parallel right to the 3800? Many thanks! O

  • @SuperMario127.
    @SuperMario127. 7 місяців тому +1

    You can also connect up to 6 expansion batteries to boost the capacity to 26,880 wh, or 700%.

    • @nubliniwaserfaztman7119
      @nubliniwaserfaztman7119 7 місяців тому +1

      I currently own a 767 and a 760 expansion battery. Do you know if the unit being tested can leverage the expansion battery and or both of what I have so that they’re not a total waste if I moved to this unit

  • @williadw1955
    @williadw1955 7 місяців тому +1

    If this unit won't run a space heater for little more than 3 hours, how can it handle a whole house in the winter for like an hour? Is there a page that shows actual realistic usage when there is a blackout and it's plugged into the electrical panel? Anker's web page shows one F3800 controlling an entire house and says ' One Power Station Total Home Energy Anytime'. I find that hard to believe.
    I think it may do that , but only if you buy a ton of expansion units and how much would that cost over the price of something like a Generac or Kohler generator? What if I bought two of these SOLIX F3800's and connected them together. How many hours of uptime would that get me if I only ran the lights, a TV, my computers, the fridge and charged my phones?
    I'd like some real world examples.

  • @southernohiosolarhomestead8477
    @southernohiosolarhomestead8477 7 місяців тому

    Can you charge with solar while using the battery?

  • @premiumyt8625
    @premiumyt8625 7 місяців тому

    Genial saludos cordiales desde Patagonia Chile.. Estos equipos son extremadamente caros en mi pais

  • @brighamyates
    @brighamyates 7 місяців тому

    As far as comparing to the new Goal Zero do you happen to know the biggest differences? Looking for the charging electric vehicle as well as camper.

    • @DavidPozEnergy
      @DavidPozEnergy  7 місяців тому

      I have not tested the Goal Zero product, so I don't know.

  • @iONsJeepingAdventures
    @iONsJeepingAdventures 7 місяців тому

    Like to see how it works while it’s charging

  • @keithlacey
    @keithlacey 7 місяців тому

    Great video - What solar power setup do you have to get the 1281w input?

    • @DavidPozEnergy
      @DavidPozEnergy  7 місяців тому

      The solar panels I'm using are LG, 365W each. I had 3 in parallel per MPPT channel. There are two MPPT channels. That means I had 6 solar panels connected.

  • @AGhostInTheMachine
    @AGhostInTheMachine 7 місяців тому +4

    David's dad...the kids call him GrandPoz

    • @WimPrest
      @WimPrest 7 місяців тому

      I lol'ed at that

  • @ahmedabbas7663
    @ahmedabbas7663 7 місяців тому +2

    great

  • @williambest6552
    @williambest6552 7 місяців тому

    Hi David, I have a Hyundai Ionic 6 EV that supports Vehicle to Load, it outputs 1800w. The Solix accepts 1800w input for electric plugin charging. Does the Sollx F3800 allow both plug-in charging and house load management to extend run time?

    • @DavidPozEnergy
      @DavidPozEnergy  7 місяців тому +2

      No. I tried AC charging, and AC load out at the same time and it didn't work. It was one or the other.

  • @DennisWintjes2
    @DennisWintjes2 7 місяців тому +1

    I would love to see efficiency specifications

    • @Bamabrute85
      @Bamabrute85 7 місяців тому

      AC efficiency was 87%.

  • @niharranjandas6569
    @niharranjandas6569 Місяць тому

    Nice ❤

  • @randyb620
    @randyb620 7 місяців тому +1

    After going to multiple solar panel stores it’s hard to get to the 1,200w max limit with 60v and 25a max. Most panels one would like to use is above 30 VOC which means you can’t put any in series or you’ll pass the 60w. If the Amps are above 8.5 you can only put 2 in parallel, which most are. His 375 panels are not the norm with 8amps. I really like this power station but they messed up with solar inputs.

    • @DavidPozEnergy
      @DavidPozEnergy  7 місяців тому +2

      My solar panels (used in this video) are 365W, 47.7Voc, 9.39Imp. With 3 panels in parallel, I am up to 28.17 Amps potential. It's OK for the Amps to be higher because the MPPT solar charge controller limits itself to 25A. You just can't go over the 60V limit.

    • @larrywong7834
      @larrywong7834 3 місяці тому

      ​​​@@DavidPozEnergy3panels x 365w is 1095w. Thats going into one of the Solar ports which I presume is the 60v limit one.
      What panels are you inputing into the 32v limit F3800 solar port???
      Think your video shows your 47.7voc
      365w panels, 3 of them.
      Both xt60 shows 44 volts. But the F3800 labels one of the ports 11v-32v. How can you input BEYOND the 32v limitation???

  • @MindOverMetalTV
    @MindOverMetalTV 7 місяців тому

    Nice that it's split phase in one unit, but 60v pv input is a dealbreaker.

  • @DDDeeter
    @DDDeeter 6 місяців тому

    Can the Solix disable its neutral/ground bond?

  • @mymusic5772
    @mymusic5772 7 місяців тому

    Can this charge on solar whilst discharging to other devices at the same time

  • @alejandrorojasrojas8942
    @alejandrorojasrojas8942 7 місяців тому +1

    very good video. congrats. i have a question, hope you have the time to give me your thoughts on this. my home consumes up to average of 900kwh a month, so maybe around 30kwh a day. my question is 1. would i be able to charge and consume energy at the same time on this device? 2. would i need a second or third battery to be able to maybe run during the night? any ideas? im trying to buy something like this and be able to disconnect from the grid every now and then. thanks David

    • @DavidPozEnergy
      @DavidPozEnergy  7 місяців тому +2

      At my home, I tend to get power outages during the winter. During the winter I might use 30kWh per day (same as you) because I have electric heat pumps. Unfortunately, during the winter I only have 4 sun-hours per day. (and lots of cloudy days too) So, let's look at that example. You need a battery that can last 20 hours a day, which is 25kWh. Anker sells expansion batteries, so you could add enough of those to get to that level. You also need to produce all 30kWh with solar in just 4 hours. That means the solar array needs to be 7.5kW (minimum). You probably saw in this video that I could charge about 1.3kW. Point is, the built-in solar charge controller is not powerful enough for this situation.
      I think this Anker power station is a great choice for some situations, but I wouldn't choose it for running a house 24/7 off of solar.

    • @580guru
      @580guru 7 місяців тому

      ​@DavidPozEnergy David, Best review of this unit! Please answer a couple questions others have asked: Can you plug in one of your 48V batteries into one of the solar inputs to charge it, say during cloud cover or at night and does it give rated output while also charging? Thanks for your reviews!

    • @DavidPozEnergy
      @DavidPozEnergy  7 місяців тому

      @580guru, I have not tested using a 48V battery into the solar charging ports. I like the idea of expanding battery capacity with something DIY, but I'm nervous about hooking a battery directly to the PV inputs.

    • @alejandrorojasrojas8942
      @alejandrorojasrojas8942 7 місяців тому

      @DavidPozEnergy Thank you so much, David , All the information was very useful and helpful , much appreciated. Are there any other batteries that you would recommend for this example? One last question, I imagine you can charge the battery at the same time that it's being drained? Thank you again for taking the time.

  • @opticalip1
    @opticalip1 6 місяців тому

    You missed charging while also draining, or how it would be used in a semi permanent setup for construction/field work.

  • @KeyBored101
    @KeyBored101 7 місяців тому

    This looks interesting, Anker is getting serious. I've used their chargers and battery banks for many years.
    The link took me to a notify me option only

  • @thelasthallow
    @thelasthallow 2 місяці тому

    are there any 220V chargers? it would have been cool to see that get used to charge an EV with.

  • @jeromeprzybilla9999
    @jeromeprzybilla9999 5 місяців тому

    Why am I only seeing 25 amp 240 volt ac outlets? I'm certain you can't get 6000 watts ac output going through a 25 amp outlet. Is their some trick terminology here that I'm missing?

  • @tommills8092
    @tommills8092 4 місяці тому

    I just received my F3800. Nice and ready to go. But?? I ask Anker Support about charging the powerhouse with my DeWalt generator. My initial concern was the gen puts out 120v 20 amp = 2400 watts. Anker only accepts 1800 and wanted to know if this would be a problem. Watts no problem but the gen is. My gen is not a pure sine wave. Modified sine which almost all gas gens are. So the dilemma is that could damage the unit just like other sensitive electronic. So the question with this new Anker F3800 and your out of power for 3 days and its raining, how do you charge the unit?

    • @DavidPozEnergy
      @DavidPozEnergy  4 місяці тому

      Personally, I have an inverter-generator that I can use to re-charge the unit. Inverter-generators tend to be pure sine wave.

  • @allanmcisaac9648
    @allanmcisaac9648 5 місяців тому

    How long does it power your AC unit? Ty for the video’s

    • @DavidPozEnergy
      @DavidPozEnergy  5 місяців тому

      It depends on the AC. One of my mini-splits uses about 300W, so about a 10 hour runtime.

  • @SooperBeez
    @SooperBeez 7 місяців тому

    Can you plug the stayion into 240v outlet and direct to car and charge indefinitely til youre ready to stop or its full

  • @TrackGeeks
    @TrackGeeks 7 місяців тому

    I DEMAND you show us the sine wave!!!!
    You know I'm just kidding. Looks like a decent product.

    • @DavidPozEnergy
      @DavidPozEnergy  7 місяців тому +1

      LOL. That's a good idea for a follow-up.

  • @ItsEverythingElse
    @ItsEverythingElse 7 місяців тому +1

    3800Wh seems a little lame when server rack batteries are 5280Wh. Of course this is a more convenient form factor. But 3800 for a whole house backup is kind of silly, especially for supporting 240V. Is there an expansion battery?

    • @bdtang
      @bdtang 7 місяців тому

      Yes - up to 26kwh for each unit.

  • @tbix1963
    @tbix1963 7 місяців тому

    Interesting product but still needs some work. Pretty good power output and with future promises for parallel connectivity sounds even better, but the actual battery storage is extremely lacking with so much output. You didn’t mention, are there inputs to extend the battery with additional dedicated battery modules??

    • @DavidPozEnergy
      @DavidPozEnergy  7 місяців тому +1

      Yes, there is a port on the side for expansion batteries. I don't have Anker expansion batteries to test the port.

    • @tbix1963
      @tbix1963 7 місяців тому

      @@DavidPozEnergy thanks for the response, always find your videos informative and interesting. I’ve been looking for a system to advise to a friend that just moved to Florida. They live in a very restrictive HOA so just about anything is a non starter. So far I’m looking for a battery system that can power the entire house for a day or two and recharge off a portable generator during daytime hours. As in everything, price is a concern, have seen some interesting uses batteries for sale thru the UA-camr jehugarcia. He recently had some really nice lithium iron phosphate batteries for sale at incredibly low prices. Have you ever seen or tried any of his offerings.

  • @marilynposluszny9422
    @marilynposluszny9422 7 місяців тому

    Wow!

  • @jbeaudoin11
    @jbeaudoin11 7 місяців тому

    I'm a bit confused by the solar inputs.
    It says 11v-32v 10A and the 32v-60v 25A ?
    What does that even mean ?
    Why is the amp much lower for lower voltage.
    Would it be because their wire gauge is to low for lower voltage ?
    And what do you guys think of hooking up something like an EG4 chargeverter to the solar inputs ?
    I feel like the 1440W ac input is charging pretty slow at about 2h45 to fill it...
    For my use case it could work but having the generator running as little (noise) and as efficiently as possible is my goal.
    By using the chargeverter at 2400W i could get closer to 1h30-45, almost 1h less..
    Was thinking of getting the Predator 5000 (when it's back in stock and fixed)
    Might be a little too big, 3600 running watts on propane, so 2.4/3.6 ~ 67%, a little far from the 80% target where it should be most efficient.
    That said, if they manage to fix their AC + Solar so we can charge with both simultaneously, might be able to hit that 80% (~2900W) by controlling the chargeverter...
    Anyways lots of ideas, now are they worth the hassle and the money :P..

    • @DavidPozEnergy
      @DavidPozEnergy  7 місяців тому

      I'll make a guess on the solar inputs.
      The first option (11V-32V 10A) is usually for charging from a car. A car usually is around 14-16V when running. But, a typical accessory port (cigarette lighter) is fused at 10A. So, Anker limits that input to 10A so you don't blow the fuse in your car.
      The second option (32V-60V 25A) is the limit of the MPPT circuit inside the power station.

  • @AgentOffice
    @AgentOffice 6 місяців тому

    Can it charge from the generator input

  • @kamelion85
    @kamelion85 6 місяців тому

    where can you order this particular model????

  • @jackbounder6374
    @jackbounder6374 6 місяців тому

    Please don't get me wrong that joker is awesome especially for 110 (I'd love to see how it pushes a window unit A.C.).
    What really got my attention is when you turned the stove on It said .07 hours remaining or the Car .04 hours remaining? Still you really can't beat it for what it is.

    • @DavidPozEnergy
      @DavidPozEnergy  6 місяців тому

      Yeah, the size of the battery is relatively small compared to the inverter output. I think they made this choice to keep it portable. You can add external batteries if needed.

  • @MrAgility888
    @MrAgility888 7 місяців тому +1

    How much does it weigh?

  • @jakeends
    @jakeends 6 місяців тому

    Can it handle. 1300w electric heater??

  • @philsmart480
    @philsmart480 2 місяці тому

    can u use the ac port while charging it solar

  • @kcamera4975
    @kcamera4975 2 місяці тому

    How long will it power a normal size refrigerator? I haven’t seen a review (on any channel) that answers this question.

    • @DavidPozEnergy
      @DavidPozEnergy  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for your question. My refrigerator uses 1.2kWh per day, so this could run it for about 2 and a half days. However, some large residential refrigerators with fancy things like through-the-door ice dispensers can use 4 kWh per day. If you have one of those, then you would get almost 1 day.

  • @kDanB
    @kDanB Місяць тому

    Been thinking about getting this for our small coffee trailer how many hours do you think we could run this before it needed to be recharged? The coffee maker does use 220 but everything else is 120 volts. Our total wattage when everything is running is 3650.

    • @DavidPozEnergy
      @DavidPozEnergy  Місяць тому

      If you are pulling 3,650W continuous, then it would run about 1 hour. It would be a good idea to list out your loads, and the run time of each. Maybe your loads cycle on/off periodically?

    • @kDanB
      @kDanB Місяць тому

      @@DavidPozEnergy ok so there's a difference in the use and run usage ? So I'm looking for load times?

    • @DavidPozEnergy
      @DavidPozEnergy  Місяць тому +1

      For example...
      Maybe you have 200W of lights in your coffee trailer that are on the whole time you are selling coffee. I have no idea how long you are open, but perhaps 8 hours a day. 200W*8h=1,600Wh. Lights are an example of a continuous load.
      You may have a mini-fridge for creamers. The fridge will cycle on/off to maintain a steady temperature inside the fridge. It might draw 150W while the compressor is running, but the compressor may only need to run 20min/h to maintain temp. In that case the average use is 50Wh/h.
      Off the top of my head, I'd guess the built-in battery won't be enough for a full shift. You would need the expansion batteries from Anker. But, you won't know for sure without more data.

  • @DennisWintjes2
    @DennisWintjes2 7 місяців тому +3

    Thanks David for sharing. 3.8Kw but only delivered 3.3kw. I like the all-in-one! Downside, if one thing breaks, you will have to replace it all too. It is all about price. Like 183

    • @captainobvious9188
      @captainobvious9188 7 місяців тому +2

      Pulling ~1700 watts constant probably put the battery under voltage cutoff to get the last half a kw/h. Usually a BMS doesn’t come back until it is past some threshold. I’d be curious to see its capacity test with like a 300w average load. Which would be what I would have with some lights/fridge/internet/tv on, and maybe using the microwave for a couple of minutes.

  • @WiSeNhEiMeR-1369
    @WiSeNhEiMeR-1369 7 місяців тому

    HOWdy D-P, ...
    Thank YOU for the REVIEW
    COOP
    the WiSeNhEiMeR from Richmond, INDIANA
    ...

  • @flolou8496
    @flolou8496 7 місяців тому

    I think the Zendure was and is a device that was first to perform the functions your mentioning in the first minute of the video, but here is why I'm commenting:
    How long would it take this Anker Solix F3800 to actually charge an electric car's battery in the 32 kWh like the 2007 electric Ford Focus, a regular class 2 home level charger
    does this in under 10 hous, would it take much longer to use the F3800 and could it top up the electric car battery completely? I saw the part of the video where you demonstrated
    charging your dad's electric VW and I was dissapointed, to see it capable of only adding 12 miles in his case, I think on the 2007 electric Ford Focus or the 2016 30 kWh battery capacity in the newer Nissan Leaf's I think the Solix F3800 is going to average only about 30 miles of added range to these electric car battery's and since this cost over twice as much as a
    normal level 2 charging home set up, it's not a major reason to invest in a device like this, if the goal was routine electric car charging, (what am I missing? )

    • @DavidPozEnergy
      @DavidPozEnergy  7 місяців тому

      Most of these all-in-one power stations will lack somewhere. In this case, 3.8kWh of battery is not much in ratio to the 6kW inverter. I'm not suggesting you use this to charge your car every day. But, I thought it was pretty cool that if you got an EV stuck a few miles from home, this could get you back.

    • @flolou8496
      @flolou8496 7 місяців тому

      Yeagh, thanks I'm dissapointed there are no alternatives yet powerful enough to rescue the millions of apartment renters who would be interested in electric cars, but don't have easy level 2 charging solutions, I thought maybe this might work for them, but the heavy 2500.00 apx price point doesn't pencil out to justify it, it is cool for it's emergency applications, keep your eye out for the now affordable 2016 Nissan Leaf SL and 2017 electric Ford Focus, which are now available in the 10K used marketetplace for the first time, with ranges of apx 90 miles of range easily, if they were well maintained.

  • @JohnDoe-wi7eb
    @JohnDoe-wi7eb 4 місяці тому

    Could this be a cheap home solar option?

  • @rossm9200
    @rossm9200 7 місяців тому +5

    For this to be remotely useful for EV charging, it would need to be able to work with an add-on battery pack. How the numbers work on this is assume 3.5 mi/kWh and 40 miles per day driven. So you need about 12kWh of battery capacity to replenish the average American's daily miles driven. So if they sold 5kWh add-on packs, it could potentially be a viable option for that purpose.

    • @ssteele1812
      @ssteele1812 7 місяців тому +1

      Think of it like a spare gas can. You don't carry around a 15 gallon can, you carry a 2.5. There is no need to completely recharge your EV with this, just use it to get you to a charging station.

    • @user-ku9bz9im7k
      @user-ku9bz9im7k 7 місяців тому

      ​@@ssteele1812or home, I ran out of charge 4 miles away from home!! Lol😂 The amount of time I had to wait for the tow truck I could've used this to get me going!

    • @chrisE815
      @chrisE815 7 місяців тому

      ​@@ssteele1812good point but a few gallons of gas can get you 40 miles or further

  • @Curious_Cat123
    @Curious_Cat123 3 місяці тому

    What are the ratings of the 6 solars panels used in the solar charging test? 300 watts, volts?

    • @DavidPozEnergy
      @DavidPozEnergy  3 місяці тому +1

      I simply used the solar panels I already own. I use this solar array for the day-to-day powering of my house. Each panel is 365W, Vmp: 38.9V, Imp: 9.39A.
      I disconnected some of the panels from my house and hooked them up to the Anker for the purpose of testing the solar input. Is that helpful?

    • @Curious_Cat123
      @Curious_Cat123 3 місяці тому

      @@DavidPozEnergy thank you

  • @martyor
    @martyor 7 місяців тому

    What are your solar panel watt specs, limits for for input?

    • @DavidPozEnergy
      @DavidPozEnergy  7 місяців тому +1

      The solar panels are 365W each. Imp: 9.39A. That means I had a potential of 28.17A, and 1,095W per MPPT channel. The Anker has 2 MPPT channels, each limited to 60V and 25A.

    • @user-pp9ot5ul4n
      @user-pp9ot5ul4n 7 місяців тому

      @@DavidPozEnergy I am confused as I thought I saw the solar input numbers as 11-32 volts/10 amps on the one input (probably about 200 watts) and up to 60 volts/25 amps on the other? Are they both 60/25 amps? allowing for 1500 watts on each input?
      I agree with many of the other comments regarding the PV needing to have a higher range, minimum of 100 volts. The amperage is pretty good and if it was 100/25 amps, the options for solar arrays would be easier.
      As always, great information and lots of detailed options, thanks!

  • @FullSendPrecision
    @FullSendPrecision 7 місяців тому +3

    It is about time we had something with proper 240v output in a single unit. Battery capacity is a little anemic... but if the price is right... I need this!

    • @jonjohns8145
      @jonjohns8145 7 місяців тому

      I would be curious to see what would happen if you connect a 48V battery to the larger solar input as an extension battery. You could be able to run it for much longer then charge up the 48V battery from the grid or solar when you are done needing the power station.

    • @DanielRichards644
      @DanielRichards644 7 місяців тому

      @@jonjohns8145 that trick works on every other "power station" so I can't see why it wouldn't work here for a cheap way to expand capacity, but like you said, you gotta have another way to charge those, would be nice if all these companies committed to a expandable battery agnostic connection so you can build your own battery, cause I can build a 14 KwH pack for under $2,500 and these companies want like 4 grand for a 3-4 KwH pack. Really makes you wanna say screw these things and just get an off grid inverter that can handle way more solar input then rig up a generator plug like this thing has to said offgrid inverter.

    • @FullSendPrecision
      @FullSendPrecision 7 місяців тому

      @@jonjohns8145 @jehugarcia has done several examples of that. It should work fine.

    • @simongchadwick
      @simongchadwick 7 місяців тому +1

      The current Kickstarter price starts at $2,600 (35% discount), which is still very high for 3.8kWh capacity.

  • @andrewvillavicencio8496
    @andrewvillavicencio8496 7 місяців тому

    How does it compare to the new Goal Zero Yeti 4000 Pro?

    • @DavidPozEnergy
      @DavidPozEnergy  7 місяців тому

      I have not tested the Gola Zero product.

    • @TheStopwatchGod
      @TheStopwatchGod 7 місяців тому

      This has a more powerful inverter with 240V support

  • @hardymichael533
    @hardymichael533 7 місяців тому +1

    goalzero YetiPRO 4000 + goal zero 4 Tank PRO 4000 Lithium phosphate battery.20 KWH) power whole house
    Tset it out
    Great 👌 please show on UA-cam video

  • @SmittyJay4040
    @SmittyJay4040 2 місяці тому

    Sorry I might be late to the comments but, I wanted know how long it was connected to the EV to get that 12 miles?

    • @DavidPozEnergy
      @DavidPozEnergy  2 місяці тому +1

      About 40 minutes.

    • @SmittyJay4040
      @SmittyJay4040 2 місяці тому

      Thanks for the answer, I just needed to know how long I would be on the side of the road.👍🏾

  • @rudolfvalacegerna9184
    @rudolfvalacegerna9184 7 місяців тому

    oukitel abearl p5000 pro : Finally a worthy opponent!

  • @junkerzn7312
    @junkerzn7312 7 місяців тому

    Having the built-in 240VAC outputs are kinda cool, but there probably is not much of a point doing this with a power station. You get into the same problem that you do with other expandable power stations like the EcoFlow Delta Pro.... expansion batteries are ridiculously expensive and you have no ability to scale-up the pieces of the system that you might need to scale up in the future. Such as the AC outputs or solar input(s). And also, the end-to-end efficiency... solar input to AC output, is likely very poor (just like all other power stations).

  • @johnvistawall9722
    @johnvistawall9722 7 місяців тому

    The 6,000 watt inverter when its idle with ac on must be power consuming.under high load the battery its very efficient but under low load must be power consuming because of such large inverter. It has its highs and drawbacks.

  • @NoClocks.NoCalendars
    @NoClocks.NoCalendars 3 місяці тому

    What solar panels are you using?

  • @nubliniwaserfaztman7119
    @nubliniwaserfaztman7119 7 місяців тому +1

    Hi, thanks for the review. Question for you which is off-topic but I’ve been looking everywhere for that color of decking. The one that you put under the dollhouse. Can you tell me where you purchased it and a phone number or something so I could reach out to them. I’ve called everywhere in the United States and haven’t been able to find it. I have a full deck, and, a contractor dropped a solar panel on it and broke one of the pieces so I’m out of luck. Really appreciate it. If you could drop me an email or message letting me know where I can purchase it.

    • @nubliniwaserfaztman7119
      @nubliniwaserfaztman7119 7 місяців тому +1

      Also, I meant to ask I have the Anker 767 with the additional 760 battery. Do you know if your unit there can be expanded with the 760 battery as well?

    • @DavidPozEnergy
      @DavidPozEnergy  7 місяців тому

      I'm not 100% sure what decking it is or where to buy it. They were some leftover pieces at my friends house that he offered to me. I think he said Trex, so I did a quick search and I think this looks close: www.homedepot.com/p/Trex-Select-1-in-x-5-1-2-in-x-20-ft-Pebble-Grey-Grooved-Edge-Capped-Composite-Decking-Board-PG010620SG01/206802160
      Keep in mind that a piece in the store will look a little darker than some that have been sitting out in the sun a few years.

  • @tariqbaig7598
    @tariqbaig7598 7 місяців тому

    Price?

  • @nickroberts4586
    @nickroberts4586 Місяць тому

    Manual says it can take a 2400 watt solar charge but........V x amps= watts
    32 x 10=320watts..ch1
    60x25= 1500watts.ch2
    Total= 1820 watts
    Correct?
    So where are they getting that out can charge at 2400 watts?

  • @wondrw
    @wondrw 7 місяців тому

    What is brand of solar panels are you using

    • @DavidPozEnergy
      @DavidPozEnergy  7 місяців тому

      I have LG solar panels.

    • @wondrw
      @wondrw 7 місяців тому

      @@DavidPozEnergy cool are they pricey can get on Amazon

    • @DavidPozEnergy
      @DavidPozEnergy  7 місяців тому

      I bought these used, locally from a solar installer. If you are looking for panels you can order, I'd check out the deals at Signature Solar: signaturesolar.com/promotions?ref=4_rHcgZ9x-TiF-

  • @Zorlig
    @Zorlig 7 місяців тому +1

    Oh.. a preproduction kickstarter. Not gonna touch unless a) it actually comes out and b) reviews of actual production units work correctly. Need to test what happens when you have this device hooked up to solar, if it runs out of power and shuts off, will it restart automatically when it gets solar power?

  • @allstarnb1
    @allstarnb1 7 місяців тому

    Cool concept but solar input power/voltage is WAYYY too low for something of this size.

  • @cdfornal
    @cdfornal 7 місяців тому

    Are those solar xt90?

    • @DavidPozEnergy
      @DavidPozEnergy  7 місяців тому +1

      Solar inputs are XT60

    • @cdfornal
      @cdfornal 7 місяців тому

      Can it charge from AC while outputting AC?
      Would like to use je line a „buffer” for power. So small 2000 watt generator charging the anker while the anker provides 100-6000 variable power

  • @nztennis4u
    @nztennis4u 6 місяців тому

    Hey David, where can I buy, would you like to sell yours?

  • @CurlyWolf_
    @CurlyWolf_ 7 місяців тому

    Seems like not a great option to get as home backup instead of getting a usual solar batter back up.

  • @solomonhilliard5357
    @solomonhilliard5357 7 місяців тому

    This was so close, WHY input AC charging 120V only???? This will take forever to charge on AC. If you max out one unit with the expansion batteries it will take 17hrs to charge! And the EU version has 240 AC charging so it was possible.