How Your Personality Affects Your Anger
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2021
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Do you ever get tilted when gaming? I know I certainly do. But even if you don’t, how does your personality affect your likelihood to express that anger? Do you have inherent personality traits that make it more difficult to resist being salty? In short, you could. Those traits do exist. In long, well... see the vid above.
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▶Games Shown
Persona 5: Royal (2019) - Atlus, P Studio
Undertale (2015) - Toby Fox
Detroit Become Human (2018) - David Cage
Ghost of Tsushima (2020) - Sucker Punch Productions
Hollow Knight (2017) - Team Cherry
Celeste (2018) - Matt Makes Games
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (2017) - Nintendo
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (2006) - Nintendo
Final Fantasy VII Remake (2020) - Square Enix
Hades (2020) - Supergiant Games
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (1996) Nintendo
Final Fantasy X (2001) - SquareSoft
Ghostrunner (2020) - One More Level, 3D Realms, Slipgate Ironworks
Super Smash Bros: Melee (2001) - HAL Laboratory
Super Smash Bros: Ultimate (2018) - Nintendo
Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice (2019) - From Software
Guilty Gear Strive (2021) - Arc System Works
Dark Souls (2011) - FromSoftware
Astral Chain (2019) - Platinum Games
NieR:Automata (2017) - PlatinumGames
Dead Cells (2017) - Motion Twin
Super Mario 64 (1996) - Nintendo
Project Triangle Strategy (2021) - Square Enix
Gone Home (2013) - Fullbright
Destiny 2 (2017) - Bungie Inc
DOOM Eternal (2020) - Bethesda
Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door (2004) - Intelligent Systems, Nintendo
Dragonball FighterZ (2018) - Arc System Works
Returnal (2021) - Housemarque
Dark Souls 3 (2016) - FromSoftware
Animal Crossing: New Horizons (2020) - Nintendo
Bloodborne (2015) - FromSoftware
▶Clips/Movies/Anime/TV Shown
House (2004)
Ed, Edd n Eddy (1999)
Airplane (1980)
Mean Girls (2004)
Wanted (2008)
Wanderlust (2012)
Wolf of Wall Street (2013)
The Great Gatsby (2013)
The Social Network (2010)
Silver Lining’s Playbook (2012)
Marriage Story (2019)
Whiplash (2014)
Kaguya Sama: Love is War(2018)
Prisoners (2013)
Looney Tunes (way back in the day, dog)
Spongebob Squarepants (does it really matter)
Inside Out (2015)
Good Will Hunting (1997)
Dragonball Z (lol)
Samurai Jack (2001)
The Queens Gambit (2020)
Demon Slayer (2019)
Jujutsu Kaisen (2020)
Joker (2019)
Perks of Being a Wallflower (2012)
Honeymoon in Vegas (1992)
Foxcatcher (2014)
Star Wars The Phantom Menace (1999)
Old Yeller (1957)
Carole and Tuesday (2019)
Dead Poet’s Society (1989)
Other clips and considerations:
• personaaaality TWO
▶Music Sources:
Lounge - Instrumental/Background Music (Royalty Free Music) ( • Lounge - Instrumental/... )
Royalty Free Instrumental Death Metal Track ( • Royalty Free Instrumen... )
Main Theme - Doki Doki Literature Club! OST
Dire Dire Docks - Super Mario 64 OST
Menu title screen - Overcooked OST
Fuzzy Flood Mine - Super Mario 3D World OST
Goron Mines - Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess OST
The Painful Way - Hades OST
NØVMBR - Illuminate ( / illuminate )
SiD Acharya - Take My Hand ( / take-my-hand )
Colosseum Round 3 Battle - Pokémon Colosseum OST
Stylish Technology Beat [Technology Music] - MOKKA ( • (No Copyright Music) S... )
Vasporo - Me + U ( / me-u )
Ruins of the Thousand-Year Door - Paper Mario The Thousand-Year Door OST
Redeye - Sleep In Shadow - ( / sleep-in-shadow )
Miror B.'s Retro Groove - Pokémon Colosseum OST
▶Research Articles Cited
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#PsychofPlay #Personality - Ігри
How many takes did it take for the line: "I am however, a saltly little pigmy rabbit boy whenever I lose."?
One, because when it's the truth, it rolls right off the tongue.
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You can call yourself whatever you like, that’s awesome.
@@DarylTalksGames can I just say that I love the little pause when you play the DDLC theme.
@@spyke7311 He remembered…
The hanging jokes.
@@spyke7311 Or literally everything else
"Win or learn" is a great mindset. No losing, only growth.
Depends on how you die though
Growth hurts lol
the dark souls of self improvment... in all seriousness a great mentality to have.
Not in fifa lol
"It's not a lose, it's a learning experience." - Some black niga
Something I learned in psychology classes that I think is helpful to realize: Self-control is like a muscle. Using it will exhaust it in the short term (you have a hard day at work which makes you easily angered later) and strengthen it in the long term. When you have the energy, practice engaging in self-control to get better at it. When you're exhausted and struggling with it, recover by relaxing and treating yourself.
Thanks for this!
Speaking from my own experience I can say that this is totally a thing. I used to have some serious anger issues growing up and part of my family bullied me a bit because of it so through sheer will I learned some self control.
Now I don’t get angry often and when I do I channel it into what I’m doing instead of exploding or bottle it down to be released in a more appropriate situation.
damn, good ass way to put it man
honestly even after it’s exhausted in the short term, anger can be avoided by embracing the exhaustion. When i have a short fuse cuz i’m mentally or physically tired, if something upsets me it’s so much easier to remind myself that i’m exhausted and do not have time or energy for this lol. This has worked on some of my worst days where i had people getting into my personal space and taking their anger out on me for hours straight. Kinda like how some people angry cry instead of yelling ig
& treating yourself def helps!!
But also, If you overstrain IT Long therm, IT will SNAP! Muscles need nuritment and Rest to grow . . . .Same goes For mental health, what does not kill you makes you stronger IS a very missleading take
I actually used gamer rage to teach myself how to feel anger without immediately trying to repress it and replace it with shame and anxiety. If the thing I was angry about (competitive games) felt less consequential and confrontational than the things that I usually repress my anger over (injustice, feeling neglected) then it was easier to allow myself to *feel* the anger itself without trying to smother and kill it, so I could work myself up to feeling the anger I needed to feel about the things in my life. Which honestly was actually very good for me and really helped me solidify my sense of being able to take up space and ask for things
They say that anger is really sadness and hurt. So when you can feel anger, you can address the sources of the sadness/hurt.
I just started using my leg as a punching bag. The pain taught me to control where I release my anger and how to do it.
Not the healthiest way, mind you, but it worked lol
Games helped me exercise my social muscles all around, but your experience resonates familiar to me.
*USE YOUR ANGER, UNLEASH IT UPON YOUR ENEMIES*
My own gamer rage is 100% a redirection of shame/anxiety, so I totally get that. Interesting to see someone working through that process in reverse :)
"And yet you, chose salt." ... your timing and setups are getting better and better, that was SO GOOD, Daryl... so good!
Awesome
This is like an ancient saying dude.
for sure. this one had me rolling, not gonna lie
*British Spice influence intensifies*
19:10 yeah thanks for the consolation prize.
I like hard games, but the worst felling is when you don't know what you are supposed to do, or you don't know why you lost.
yeah, and a lot of games use that as an excuse of "difficulty"
@@sachamartinez1950 yeah, being confusing shouldn't be one of the reason it's hard
@@bengermin3104 I like roguelikes until I hit a part where I need to learn a new enemy that's like 25 minutes into the run and it is like. I gotta work for the chance to lose to an enemy I dunno about
No, the worst feeling is when you KNOW what you are supposed to do and know that you DID do it, but still lost/failed due to bugs/glitches/lags or other factors you don't have any control over.
In case of not knowing what to do, I at least still partially blame myself for being too stupid for it and there usually are easy fixes for it (the internet is your best friend). But if it's simply not working, all you can do is keep trying until it DOES work.
I'll just leave Einstein's quote on here: "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results."
That's why I love Celeste and Hollow Knight because I know that ~✨I'm the one responsible for my failures✨~
Used to get angry at losing a game, then had a realization that losing is part of the experience. What point does a game have if you can only win? Once you accept the inevitability of loss, I think you can find satisfaction in a game that you've lost.
And I think this is particularly true in online multiplayer games. If there's proper matchmaking ideally, you lose half the time. Losing half the time is the goal, so you should try and find things to enjoy in those losses, because games are more than the W/L at the end.
I don't know what you smoked that caused you to come up with that.
Losing should never be a goal. It's not an experience, it's a setback. If there's proper matchmaking, you get all the wins you could ever want.
@acedelta1259 they meant its the goal of the developers. Games won't be as satisfying to keep playing long into its life if you win every time. Most people need challenge to keep something interesting and fun. A good match making system puts you with players around your own skill level. If you're playing with people as good as you, you naturally should loose almost half of your games.
@@Sacren365 Mario and Kirby would like a word with you.
We're talking about competitive multi-player games. The video literally points out that people don't always react the same way to single-player games esque games (don't bother, I know Mario and Kirby have local multi-player).
@@Sacren365 My point is that I can remain happy with a game for an extended period of time if I just keep winning. It makes me excited to see how quickly I can climb the ladder, and how far it reaches.
My elementary chess teacher would always ask us after our tournament games if we won or learned. We never “lost”. That man was ahead of his time
"i have anger issues, especially when it comes to playing smash ultimate online"
ngl, be weird if you didnt
I don't but then again I play Little Mac so yeah
i dont...
Word that place is hellish
With that online netcode? Can't blame the dude
I don’t have the patience for online. I just play Spirit Board lmao
After some time into _Getting Over It_ I found that the goal of the game is not to clear it but to learn to manage your anger. Once you get there, the game gets so much easier, all of the sudden. Also, I've noticed that porting that mindset to other games makes them way more enjoyable.
100% the mindset I'm growing with smash and guilty gear. Fighting off the anger is every bit the challenge the game is, but once it clicks, you realize how much energy you were wasting and all the little details you were missing.
I feel like once you actually play the game the anger becomes less agitating. Cause before when I played fps games I'd usually just run in a shoot hoping for kills and that sorta made me mad when I get camped somewhere. After playing league of legends tho and becoming more patient in my playstyle I took some seconds to just think about the game and what's happening instead an ideal situation. The more you focus on the core mechanics and idea behind the game the less angry you'll be cause you'd be more focused on how to counter play their win conditions.
@@DarylTalksGames Once you’ve lost 5 hours of progress (true story) Losing a set in smash feels 1000x better
My intense strategy is take a nap and when I wake up I’m able to beat nearly any boss
@@plugshirt1684 Now that's a godlike strat.
I've mostly figured out that my tendency to get salty when I play a video game heavily depends on my personal perception of "fairness" and whether I can rationalize what I did wrong in the moment, and how to improve for the next attempt. This is why I can die 1000 times a level in Celeste, and keep a smile on my face the whole way through, but getting my ass beat in a competitive multiplayer game repeatedly grinds my gears. The two biggest reasons for this is: 1. When a game adds a variable outside of my control, whether it be RNG Bullshit or copious amounts of input lag. And 2. The hopelessness of trying different strategies and approaches seemingly getting no results. I don't have to win all the time, I just need to see progress.
Nothing pisses me off more in games than RNG-induced defeat so I feel you wholeheartedly
League gets me more worked up then most things in life. I feel outraged that the best thing i can do is "say something supportive" and then just "hope" my top laner stops running it down..
Something similar, i am totaly fine with Not being good at Something, If I need more then a certain amount of attempts, I might lose interest, but Not get salty. I also am fine losing against someone Else, unless they have to BE an ahole about IT. But i can get salty If they Game has Like a Glitch or Something that Breaks my Neck, If they Rules get changed to benifits WHO I Play against, Things Like that. I hate changing Rules so much. If Something IS established everyone should have to abide them. I will personally call Out of I myself got an unfair Advantage! So yeah, IT IS a principle Thing and about whatever ITS in my controll or not
Fortnite brings me physically violent tendencies, whereas dying in games like Binding of Isaac, Palworld, GTA, and other similar titles brings me no sort of violence. It's definitely a game by game basis on anger.
I'm this way. I get frustrated with lack of progress. I am not mad when I lose, I'm mad when I make no progress or worse yet, lose progress. THAT is what frustrates me.
I think the reason why I enjoy games like Hades and Hollow knight so much, despite how angry I can get, is because they have litte moments of just calm. Either sitting on a bench, or stumbling upon Euridyce during a run just helps me instantly calm down.
"I genuinely do struggle with rage when I game, just ask my wife" how ominous
Absolutely ominous
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Unless she's documenting it for a UA-cam compilation!
XD
Personally I get way more frustrated over games taking my control away from me than just simply failure itself. Like I get way more tilted by rain preventing me to climb over a simple obstacle in Breath of the Wild than dying over and over in Celeste. I think it applies to most games and most gamers. It's more anger inducing to deal with having to play a tedious section again or getting endlessly combo'd and not being able to do anything about it.
Not being able to climb in the rain optimally is a skill issue
I don’t think it’s fair to say “most games” and “most gamers”. That’s your experience but it isn’t a fact that will apply to “most” of anything.
Same, I don't rly play games that often, and I'm a very patient person but what consistently make me more mad or frustrated when gaming is when I get comboed into oblivion in fighting games
@@kolskytraveller1369 Whether you climb "optimally" or not, its always harder to climb in the rain than when its not raining... it doesn't matter if its a "skill issue" if it still effects you regardless.
i remember a moment in a game where I fell a really long way. I wasn't far from where I would spawn in, but I still killed my guy because there wasn't even the cleansing factor of resetting the screen.
like deleting every layer instead of going back to the start of the undo timeline.
I love "win or learn." I really, deeply wish, as a later-in-life combined-type ADHD diagnosee, I'd had such a kind mantra as a kid. I still rage out a lot in single player games, mostly when I struggle learning a new mechanic or the path forward escapes me. I think it's mostly down to my compromised ability to inhibit my emotional response, combined with residual internal pressure for perfection from growing up neurodivergent and not knowing it.
If you know, you know.
Interesting that I too have adhd but have always been incredibly level headed on video games unless being actively trolled or abused.
I know
It takes A LOT of suffering in a game to push me to anger and even then I can very strongly hold back any visible reaction to the relief of my monitor.
As a kid I used to have a lot of anger issues when it came to frustration in video games. Only in my 20s did I find out I have ADHD and one of the symptoms to have the biggest impact on both kids and adults with it is emotional disregulation.
I'm extremely slow to anger now, but particularly tedious or frustrating games manage to sneak past my defenses and try to restart that fire
Adhd can be like that. Throw the Wii remote at new super Mario bros, because of that goddamn boo.
@@oxybrightdark8765 be nice to the Wiimote
@@oxybrightdark8765 I bit a pillow in half because I died in darksouls because *I DIDNT FUGGIN JUMP WHEN I PRESSED JUUUUUUUUUMP.*
I'm still getting over it. It happened like 8 years ago.
Ever tried Dark souls?
@@baldychkn2949 haha I know my limits
"...yet you choose salt..." *look at the literal salt next to me*
does it taste sweet
@@smt4090 what a dumb question, how else would the salt taste
@@misadate8688 idk umami or sth
Eat it all.
@@ricecooker7037 yes
On a logical level I absolutely understand and agree with the sentiment "win or learn", but in the moment of losing that ends up just flying out the window and leaving me to feel horrible about it, and usually leads me to questioning if I'm simply not as equipped as others to accomplish anything challenging (or anything at all). Thankfully I do have a therapist that I see and can talk to about these things, and this video was helpful to see what parts of the brain and mind can potentially be responsible for this.
My type of rage is just silent swearing, with an exasperated sigh, and a scrunched up face... But generally I wouldn't allow myself to fly off the handle even when alone. Doesn't mean I won't punch a pillow after I get beaten again, again, and again in a competitive game.
When it comes to single-player games, 'grit' is what comes into play. Cause there is always a way to clear those games, no matter how complicated it might seem on the surface. Competitive online games is... Yeah, I can 'grit' for awhile. But a string of losing back and forth will slowly turn to rage, inhibiting my decision making. Gotta dial back and remind myself that I'm not the only one gunning for the win, and that I'm only one out of countless millions out there. But my best practice to manage anger is to simply stop and do something else.
Celeste and the Sans fight has really made me keep cool when trying and failing over and over again in games. Fun times.
For me that's mostly Geometry Dash, but Celeste also helped with that
Nightmare king Grim and pure vessel
Celeste never made me angry because I never got invested in individual lives and I’m good enough that I never died 100 times in a row to make me angrier and angrier. That said, when I was having trouble, I either persevered or went and played something else for a while before coming back to it
That was enter the gungeon for me
@@FortnuitePro honestly same. Been trying to finish it lately
I don't rage I just straight up cry
excruciating
Do you need a hug?
@@secretmover6129 God yes
I just die on the inside and get bored and when i give up i just Uninstall the game if i was in the beginning of the game an it sucked.
@@mouse9039 Wtf did I laugh?
The gaming moment that absolutely had me go to town on my surroundings was the boss fight against Loran Darkbeast in Bloodborne. I have a very low likelihood of bursting with rage. However, if I feel in any way cheated, mistreated or if I got the slightest hint of a sense that someone or something is bullshitting me my fuse suddenly evaporates and I explode. Violently.
competitive multiplayer games where two classes are absolute protected children who can do no wrong and any "counterplay" against them is a joke at best and might as well not be there 95% of the time is an excellent way for me to put more holes in the wall.
God of war ragnarok berserkers. Need I say anymore?
15:43 This totally happened to me, not because I was afraid of social rejection, but because I was in a Smash Bros competition for a $50 eshop gift card. I totally should not have lost that.
Same, i was in a school hosted SSBU tournament that was quite small but i didnt feel that much shame considering they did have a higher skill level than I
Next time I get angry I'm just gonna say it's because a iron rod went through my skull
"has it ever happened to you that you got distracted from the thought of winning by the thought of how embarrassed you would be to lose in front of everyone?"
Bro what- _distracted_ is an understatement, I was never thinking about the game in the first place... When I play with other people, what they're gonna think of me is _all_ I can think about. (It makes for a pretty miserable experience with competitive games, but cooperative games can be fun.)
I relate 100%
Why?
@@soulmechanics7946 its just how we are. we focus on what people will think of us if we lose, and we stop focusing on the game, thus losing, and (according to doom and gloom brain) now everyone thinks we're trash and dumb.
@@killermetalwolf2843 It was never about how readily you can overcome as it is how gracefully you can endure.
I have the equivalent with agreeableness: I get distracted thinking about whether everyone is having a good time and prioritise that over winning
I think I might have both high consciousness and neuroticism. Mainly because my consciousness holds a lot of my instant frustration back and my neuroticism kicks in right after trying my hardest to not make all the decisions and past mistakes that will lead up to me ultimately losing instead of winning.
I do wanna say that neuroticism isn't necessarily characterized as emotional instability. It's usually defined as reactivity.
I just get sad when games go bad. Not angry, just sad.
Anger is a secondary emotion, so that makes sense. You may be feeling the underlying emotion a lot of the people who do get angry are feeling
Me too.
same
Unlike anger, which dissipates after minute or two, I feel that when you feel sad that you lost,
it lingers around for quite a lot of time unless you actively try to cheer yourself up. That's because being angry requires much more energy than being sad
@@brawpp8987 lol dissipates after a few minutes? I can be angry all day over a lost match... yeah, I got a problem.
I get frustrated when I die over and over again. But the reward of defeating that enemy is what pushes me to keep trying.
Plus trying to get the PlayStation trophies...
Whenever I pore hours into a game on Switch, only to find it has a release on PS4. Me and my 170 hours on Hades now have to start over, for the trophies and to feel Cerberus respond to pats. Switch lite has no vibration..
So Dark Souls in a nutshell
Same, but with Steam Achievements
Exactly me when fighting AbsRad on Radiant in Hollow Knight, I get frustrated a lot to the point I kinda felt like a failure if I don't beat this guy. Boy the moment I kill her tho, pure satisfaction
I'm truly insane, I try to 100% games on as many platforms as possible, Steam, Xbox PS, ALL THE ACHIEVEMENTS/TROPHIES!!!!
Thank you for this video. Genuinely. I am very aware of my problems with frustration and anger and when you got to the part about “if you have low contentiousness, high neuroticism and are over 25, please don’t think you’re doomed” I legit started tearing up.
I am a simmering type. I slowly get angry and I can keep myself mostly in control. I almost never explode it happens very rarely and hasn't happened since I became am adult. When I was younger I would explode occasionally. It still wasn't a common occurrence but it happened. I am in control now.
Chart of the things I learned from the vidéo :
Interesting psychology stuff :
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Daryl is married :
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That's not how I remember Phinéas and Ferb :
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This is so interesting as somebody who doesn’t let herself feel anger much. I get the most angry when playing single player when I come across something challenging that I don’t learn and overcome quickly. I think it’s because I hold myself to too high standards. Meanwhile in multiplayer games I’m joyous almost the whole time even if I’m on a losing streak because when I’m playing with others the reward for me isn’t winning but just playing with a group. Maybe it’s cuz I grew up not allowed to play multiplayer ever so it’s a treat for me.
Thanks for the great vid and little giggles
for me it's the opposite (kind of). When I play solo games, I usually say calm and if I can't figure something out, I reload the last save and see what I did wrong or could have done better and I feel really good when I get passed the challenge. In multiplayer games, I sometimes have bursts of rage (specifically in Raimbow six siege) but I never insult the others (in the chat at least) and I always calm donimmediatly at the end of a game. I usually compliment the other team, wether I win or loose, at the end of the game but while I am playing it, I can get pretty ragy
As long as I can understand why I died I’m ok but if I don’t or I do understand why I died but it was still dumb regardless (like a bad hitbox) I am not ok with that I’m multiplayer and single player games
Playing multiplayer has so manny caviats depending on where you live and your economical citiation.
Me a south american in a forgoten city is just not practical.
200 pin average to play Lol before they got the Brazilian server was not fun.
There where moments of fun, specially when something dumb happen and you excel intention.
Like a suport becoming the strongest mage in the field, or the tank just wining the game because you keep pushing the objective while everyone else is fo us on PK.
My anger when playing single player vs multiplayer is different lol. I used to just smash the keyboard on my early gaming years but as I grew older I just simply quit the room in multiplayer games. In single player games though. I either scream or rage quit.
I’m very similar! I’m not too invested in winning and get satisfaction from exploration and teamwork. The few occasions I have got very quickly tilted is in league of legends when my own team turns against me, because it destroys all my motivation to be there. I would much rather lose a game where I worked together really well with my team than win a game in spite of everyone being horrible to each other.
Pronounced Tony Chachere’s properly, man of culture confirmed
I'm so happy you used that metaphor for "ending" the video, I'm so glad I rewound that when I missed it the first time LMAO
When I get upset while playing a game, I feel I get into a state of mind where I link my performance in the game to my self worth. Like a "I can't even play a game right, what good am I?" sort of feeling. It took a very long time to realize that was what was happening with me.
Yeah, most of the time that’s me in online games
Same, but I know what the reason is
A cousin bullied me my entire childhood every time we played games together so it stuck with me, now I'm trying to get over it
I do this as well, and even knowing I do it doesn't help me prevent it. Video games used to be my sorta go-to happy place, and lately I'm often just too afraid to even pick one up and try. Getting help with it from a professional, but it still takes so long to re-train the mind.
“...You have the thermoses set on 68”
I immediately assumed he was talking in Celsius and was wondering why he wasn’t cooked yet lmao
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When you mentioned getting sent into the Pool of Styx, that's when I realized how little I rage haha
The most frustrated I get is from a really bad lose streak against my brothers in SSBU or a really, *really* unlucky series of crits from the enemy or misses from my own units in Three Houses (the latter of these two isn't actually that bad and just makes me think again. The previous can be anything from "Oof, good game that was close" to *"Stop talking to me."* on very rare occasions).
In Hades, I die frequently enough to progress the story but also rarely enough that I feel like I'm not trash?
*I've died to the Bone Hydra so many times now* but I guess that one time I beat it is enough to make me keep trying until I beat it again haha
Edit: I just remembered when I played "Stick With It" and how I essentially raged multiple times playing that game (it's a mobile game made by a UA-camr inspired by Getting Over It with Bennett Foddy). It wasn't throw-my-phone-across-the-room-in-a-fit-of-rage bad, but it was enough that, after a few deaths, I'd stop and do something else because I was getting far more angry than I was used to >:/
First of all, I LOVE your videos, I just found your channel. Second of all, as some one with ADHD and a job/kids/wife, controlling my anger and regulation is something I made myself work on because all the "side effects" became difficult for them and me. I recently watched Jujutsu Kaisen and legit use Todo/Yuji's metaphor for controlling energy as a "visual assistant" to help me do this. When you showed that scene in this video for the same reason I had to comment. Thanks for the great content!
How deep in is that reference in Jujutsu Kaisen? I could use a visual metaphor
I think it can be pretty deep but I can see others saying I'm just putting more into it. But if you swap out curse energy for anxiety, fear, anger, depression and how to experience it without it knocking you down. It helps. At least me. Stay strong besto friendo!@@Barrillel
Me: "None of this rings any bells about me getting mad."
*Explains Neuroticism*
Me: "Oh... Nevermind."
Yeah, kinda the same
100%ing Celeste was such a game changer (he he) for me, because whenever I’m on the brink of raging, I remind myself that I completed Celeste. I could defeat god with my blistered thumbs
This is gonna be me when I finally Platinum Hollow Knight. I only have the Pantheon of Hallownest left.
@@tabeatamm3594 Get that 112%!
I'm sticking with my cuphead S and P ranks.
twitch babies got nothing on me.
i already did that multiple times.
Same thing for me with Dark Souls.
@@tabeatamm3594 same here, pantheon of hallownest is by far the hardest thing ive attempted in a video game but im sooo close
"...your knees and toes... knees and toes" I absolutely adore this
Along with the big five, there is another system called Enneagram, which explains anger being expressed in three different ways:
- The over expression of anger, a.k.a. outwardly showing your frustration
- The attempt to control anger a.k.a. bottling it up and hiding it
- The lack of anger, or a disconnection with your passions and rage… People who don’t get angry because they don’t feel like they’re allowed to/don’t even know how
It’s always fascinating to see how other systems can tackle the same idea from different perspectives
I actively avoid online games because the side of me that doesn't want to lose completely dwarfs the side of me that wants to win.
That being said, I have a soft spot in my heart for Overwatch as I've played it since launch pretty much. Its the ONLY game that I actively get angry at when I play, even for minor shit.
With games like Hollow Knight, Hotline Miami and Celeste, I do get kinda tilted, but I'm more inclined to laugh at how bad I am, rather than get upset. The better I see myself at the game, the less angry I get. I think its to do with the frustration of wanting to be good but being garbage - like thinking youre a total failure.
I definitely raged a lot less near the end of Hollow Knight than at the beginning. There could be some truth to that.
@@Digo-eu yeah at the start I would rage losing to Soul Master, but nowadays I'm completely unphased even when I lose hours of progress on a Steel Soul
@@Digo-eu I think I rage more now that im more end game than when I was in the beginning. Because it was okay to fail at first because I'm learning and I would just laugh it off, but further in I would get angrier because at that point its no longer at apoint where I can laugh it off, its "I'm competent and I've beaten harder bosses why can't I do this now????" I love hollow knight but I raged quit last year because of this and I can't bring myself to come back because my level of skill has regressed compared to what I used to be able to do.
I never rage In the types of games I just say Noo then I continue again. Even if I lose bad ill still continue. I find it difficult to rage at solo games but multiplayer games are different. If I become angry I'll simply look to punish them more or push then further.
@@evilerroryt8448 this one has perseverance
I'm pretty mellow on a normal play through. I get irritated or disappointed but rarely until the point I want to break my controller.
My neuroticism activates when I engage with someone online fearing to lose against them. I don't want to look bad afront of them. However, my adrenaline makes it harder to achieve that win because I couldn't channel it. It just holds me back. It makes it harder to control myself and it completely destroys my performance. Hate it when it happens, but I accept it. :/
same. I rarely rage on challenging games, but I very often do on online game. For some reason, It's like I assume the other one are laughing at me if I loose. Interestingly enough, I don't rage at all if the opponent show a good attitude and seems to notice good play. For example, I immediately calm down on a loosing match of rocket league if an opponent compliment a nice goal.
I’m right with you. It is something very common a lot of us deal with.
May I ask if someone can link the first video? I couldn't find it in the description
Mine is more of a fear of disappointing my friend I'm playing with
That’s part of the issue with me, but losing and not having fun(What usually happens when I play Smash) just tilts me beyond compare.
I never once raged during the Sans boss fight(Even after dying probably over 100 times) because it was some of the most fun I’d had in a while. Smash is a different story though; getting 3 stocked by a Sheik’s who’s been playing since Melee and is dash dancing like a maniac isn’t fun and just makes me kick my TV into space.
Man, I really came across your channel at the right time. Thank you so much for your perspective and sharing such great information!
I appreciate that you link everything you used in the description
I've noticed that getting angry does increase reaction times to a degree, I think it's the mild adrenaline surge that usually accompanies it, that's more physiological than psychological but I think that's where the anger makes me play better angle comes from, as when I'm relaxed my reaction times are noticably slower
That's what makes the souls games so good......it feels like battery acid is pumping through your veins especially in DS3
Ironically, it would seem that being a serene gamer would actually benefit bullet hell players, since focus is far more important in danmaku than reaction time.
@@McCaroni_Sup Each person reacts to agitation differently so I could see some cases where the sort of tunnel vision brought on by it could help some focus but for the most part yeah cooler heads rule the roost with the danmaku genre.
@@GodOfOrphansyeah for me when playing souls games if I start getting agitated I will always perform worse, I’ll often come back to it later when I’ve cooled off and do way better
But I've noticed too, too MUCH anger makes you actively unfocused and play worse. That's why when you lose to the same boss in Dark Souls over and over, you start to lose earlier on in the fight and slowly get more annoyed. THAT is when you step away, take a break, and come back with a clear head.
Other People:Verbally express their rage
Me:"I have a question for God..WHYYYYYY!!!"
Another top class video, the edits done are absolutely phenomenal. As someone who's not that bright, I do love your focus on psychology and how it's explained in a way that even a muppet like me can understand.
These videos are super interesting; I listen to them in the background when I study and think they are so well done!
Used to break controllers all the time up to graduating high school, and now that I buy the controllers, I've completely stopped lol; I'll put it down and curse a lot, worse case is I drop the game for a while (thanks Orphan of Kos).
Goddamn I’ve been hearing a lot bout Orphan of Kos and how hard it is. I already completed the game 3 times, now trying for platinum achievement, and tempted to buy the dlc. Now I’m scared lol
@@killkunz784 I honestly think it's a personal difficulty because I still found it easier than Laurence, haven't beat him to this day--played the dlc over 6 months ago . . . but I will beat him, just not on that file I finished, was on NG4 lol.
I wish you good fortune, my dude! Just know that since you're one cycle below me, it won't be easy, but with time you can conquer it all.
@@mekannatarry1929 thanks a lot. And also, it wasn’t your fault, Laurence was a shit boss from what I’ve heard.
@@killkunz784 Lol, with a new game he shouldn't have a million hp, at least.
I broke controllers growing up, I stopped, then I started playing Smite in college and went right back to breaking them even when I had to buy them. There was one time where I even stopped myself before I threw it and asked myself "is it worth it"..........and then I said "yeah" and yeeted it across the room 😂😅 I had to switch to a different controller but I felt better.
Gotta say tho, that opening of "and yet, you choose salt" was amazing.
That's some tight editing there! The visual jokes go very well with your words. It's a blast watching your video.
this feels like your best video to date man
I'm not very quick to anger at all and that carries over to games. For me, repeat losses or impossible difficulty give me either a feeling of boredom or disappointment. My "rage quits" are usually pretty quiet and I sort of... turn off emotionally. Anyone else like that?
Its the same for me
Except from monster hunter
Same. I lost a lot of grinding due to not saving in dragon quest 11s and after disbelief, I just sighed and said, "I'll do it later".
Same here. I'm kinds like that with Hollow Knight and a few online multiplayer games. It's just so repetitive that getting angry has no point.
Yeah, I just get kinda frustrated and disappointed very occasionally, but not like, mad
I don't really get thrown controllers lol
Yep, same. I hate it when my boyfriend starts throwing stuff around when he's not getting on with a game. I'm like, well play something else if you're not enjoying it, life's too short. Let's see how I feel if I lose any of my shiny pokemon though, I might get mad then!
I DO get better in online competitive games when I simmer, but in single player games I never get angry. Instead I get annoyed, turn off the game, and go do something else.
9:11 I love how your dog is like, "Dude, tf are you doing?"
This video, and whole channel really, is super insightful! Super impressed with this channel and love the deep dive content.
I don’t rage toooooooo much-
Occasionally I gotta smack my leg but I always gotta protect those expensive controllers...
My sister shows zero signs of anger ever and it’s kinda terrifying
When I was playing Monster Hunter World: Iceborne, I did sometimes hit the leg rest on my recliner when I did something to slightly ruin my chances of soloing Fatalis and Arch-Tempered Velkhana. It took alot of patience and retries, but it was worth killing both of them once each in a "I'm never fighting this boss in a videogame ever again" kind of way.
@@KaiKrimson56 I think “I’m never doing that again” a lot in video games
It’s always a lie
Played through the entirety of Celeste again
Started hard mode in cuphead
Collected all the stupid hero weapons in splatoon 2
When that happens to me I don’t smack my leg, I closed fist punch my thigh until one of the two or both hurt to the touch. That or just break something
I might learn Earthquake Stomp if I buy a Soulsborne game...
0:24 And instead pop in some calming music *DOOM Eternal OST* . wrong song *Greetings Pokefans theme* . Also wrong song *Doki Doki!*
*nervous sweating*
You're one of the most interesting and helpful UA-camrs out there. When I watch you, I know not only will I spend my past time entertained but educated as well
Thank you for this video! Didnt ever think I was alone with this problem but it kinda helped to explain why I'm sometimes like a spoiled child not getting what they want when I lose at a game or anything really. For me, this goes back to my childhood and is probably here to stay.
I've had to quit playing Overwatch alltogether because I had such a meltdown over being killed by the same guy over and over that I will be embarrassed about it until the day I die lol. Really sucking ass at every single thing I do doesnt help with this but hey, at least I'm understood somewhat. (on that note, I did talk to a therapist about being a sore loser and she basically went "Well sometimes there's just nothing you can do about that. Just maybe avoid competetive games" so yeah..)
I didn't choose salt; my opponents chose it for me, and I used it accordingly.
I never get openly angry at games, the only times I simmer a bit are when I'm bested by something that's out of my control. Not like RNG in a rougelike where something generates difficult, I love a deck builder called One Step From Eden and sometimes the game throws you a bunch of sub par cards with no synergy but it's fun to try and make it work. Things like lag spikes during an important moment in an online game will frustrate me for a few seconds because they are fully disconnected from the actual game.
I loved the entire vid but your dog during the ad read is my favourite 😂
This is the first video I've seen from you (thanks algorithm), and right away, that was a *smooth* ad transition
I've found my rage presents itself in its worst form playing competitive online games (smash, league, overwatch, etc.), which is why in most of those games I have simply begun avoiding ranked modes and anywhere I'm expected to take myself too seriously. I'm not sure if I'll be able to quell my neuroticism in the future, but for now I feel it's okay to simply recognize that I am that way and act accordingly. Because games are a lot more fun when I don't feel like my performance is being heavily judged.
I am 25 and a VERY angry gamer. I can literally feel the cortisol taking hold of my body as I lose consecutive online matches, and since I love old retro games, I am constantly on the verge of losing my sanity to a ridiculously hard NES game. I wonder about this all the time, and I lowkey see it as the obstacle preventing me from being a better person, maybe if I was better controlling my rage I would be able to focus more and probably be better at gaming/life in general.
The thing is, despite my inner fires, I always beat the games I set to beat, and that include some really pushy ones like Battletoads or Ninja Gaiden, but I don’t know if playing “on fire” helps me learn to control the rage, or if it just teaches my mind to let itself consume into rage.
Sometimes I feel like I am so far gone in rage, and it fills me with guilt because I feel like I’m failing as an individual. I also fear that one day I just snap and hurt someone.
I don’t know, it’s kinda late at night and this video got me thinking about how I hate myself so much because of it.
Take a walk. Breath deeply. See how beautiful the sky is, the trees, the sun, maybe a river, a beach, a lake,etc. Also you should try to play games that are relaxing/meditative (my favourite is abzu). It'll help you recenter yourselr and experience other emotions than rage.
You'll certainly want to at the very least try and keep the gaming rage and rage at actual people in your life separate. For me, I might just need some space so as to not be snappy or bitchy at other people, but once I've properly finished or ragequit, the anger won't be transferred anywhere else and it just has to burn out on its own.
As a fellow rage induced gamer I appreciate you sharing this. I know humility and sensitivity aren't qualities we exercise as hardcore gamers, however I'm glad you did. I'm learning that falling in between both makes us the most successful. Try it. Adrenaline is released during anger so reaction time is increased however if fully consumed the adrenaline is used to rage as opposed to game. That's why it's called tilt, if you go full tilt the "sphere your balancing" so to speak will fall off. However, if you tilt a sphere back & forth in a precise, controlled motion it will build momentum and roll fast & steady without falling. 😊 hope that makes sense. You're loved buddy, Christ bless you. ✝️
I never actually thought this would teach me a lot more about myself, but hell it does, that's- amazing, phonomenal video man
Honestly when i used to get angry at losing several times after acting out on it I always felt a little hollow with frustration and it felt worse than losing sometimes and even when beating the boss or level the satisfaction was much lower than if I just kept my anger at bay and kept going at it. So I’ve learned to channel my anger into motivation to beat the game.
And then there’s fighting games no matter who you are there’s gonna be one occasion when you have enough combined rage to simultaneously combust
I stopped playing fighting games. I just ended up raging all the time and realized one thing: it's a full time job. Period. To be decent at fighting games you have to train A LOT. And I'm absolutely not interested in doing that, I'd rather play 10 different games for 100h than train and practice my combos for a 1000h on a fighting game.
I understand that some of the training carry over from game to game but I'm not willing to sacrifice so much time for something bringing me so little satisfaction.
@@Draclord35 smash bros has a less technical skill floor if you're looking for something similar that could fit you better.
fighting games are just chess and rock paper scissors
once you learn how to do special moves, hit, move, etc, you learn how to play against others and then afterwards its a gradual process of refining and learning
you cant dribble like kyrie irving w/o knowing how to dribble
you can find similar skilled people and learn with them while studying the game, unless your life doesnt allow that due to responsibilities and what not
@@xpotatohamster7051 Finding someone just exactly your level is such a euphoric feeling
spontaneously combust*
No, no way. He didn't actually just flawlessly integrate his sponsor into the main concept of his video. I don't believe it. It's not possible.
Some people really have talent, right?
Have you seen Internet Historian and Pyrocynical and how they integrate their ads? very epic
@@danyaljamil1677 DangerouslyFunny just cuts things in half with swords for sponsorships
That’s because…he didn’t.
15:10 man's literally just hit us with the "do you cope, or do you seethe?"
I don’t do either one. Instead, I burn.
I like this analysis. I'm definitely an impulsive person, but I did a lot of fencing (swordplay) contests as a kid and learned how to reset. Just the mantra "the score is zero-zero" to remind me that I perform better when I play like it's the first engagement has helped me a LOT to get over anger. It is something you can train yourself in if you practice it on purpose.
Nothing has made me more angry, more depressed, and more devoid of all hope than Escape From Tarkov. To the point that playing something like Dark Souls doesn't even bother me in any way shape or form. My tolerance for despair has only increased due to playing more punishing games
I know right? I went from playing tarkov for like three weeks straight to playing getting over it. I wish I was kidding when I said I played that game for 8 hours to beat it once and I didnt get mad once. I played the entire fucking game deadpan.
@@groundsalt2199 I was a big rager in League, now I have barely played in the last 5 years and the game is deleted right now and I wouldnt rage on It anymore, just be disappointed and I dont enjoy It.
Tarkov on the other hand. While It can be frustrating and a very punishing game, I very rarely get angry at It and even when I do, I calm down in minutes. Somehow in Tarkov, I dont rage, sometimes I am disappointed in myself, but I dont rage nor at me nor at my teammates. I kind of accepted that Tarkov is a game where you die and I am not getting angry at incompetence and bad luck.
In leauge on the other hand, both incompetence and "bad luck" frustrates me like hell.
I find It very strange, because a lot of people talk about how Tarkov is more frustrating than Leauge and csgo and I really dont relate.
@@MMOplayeerr That's true. I mostly get mad when I feel out of control when i die.
I love this so much. In my close knit group of friends I am known as the "god of salt" for good reason. I am the one that gives up the fastest when things go south, and I complain the most. Though, that's ok because they find it funny when when i rage.
The binding of isaac actually helped me with my anger issues. Whenever something bad happens to my run, I only feel numbness.
God I love your videos man. You're getting better and better with every new one.
Videos like this really help me be introspective about my emotions in life as well as when playing games. I appreciate all the research done for these!!
Loved the video mate! This one made me laugh a ton and had some great analysis on the topic. The worst feeling is when everything in the game seems to go in just the way to make you the most angry possible so after that you can't play the game for at least a week.
Man that’s some next level rage dude, it’s been a loooong time since I’ve walked away from a game for awhile after ragequitting. I can’t actually walk away from the game until I’ve had at least a small victory 😅 maybe it’s from growing up playing sports and I was always told “end on a good one” 🤷🏻♂️
Glad you enjoyed!
@@DarylTalksGames The backstory of "have a damn good one" as the outro sentence revealed :O
@@botaku12721 I like the interpretation! But here is the real reason: twitter.com/DarylTalksGames/status/1392424091949441024?s=20
Ah, the more you know :)
I don’t rage or if so i do rarely. Most of the times I become sad/disappointed when I lose but I eventually get back up again and learn.
Love the channel! Thanks for the vid ❤
Daryl, you had something to talk about in your livestream that you wanted us to remind you about.
Real talk this might be the first time I was actually sold on some earphones I might grab these.
Some of my most exhilarating moments in play derived from channeling anger and transforming that raw energy into a hyper focus. I don't always manage to control it that well but when I do and it works out it's incredibly satisfying. The pure ecstasy of perfect ranking ULTRAKILL's P-2 after hundreds of attempts still echoes in my bones months after the fact
my friend showed me the just the cooking themed intro without context and I fully thought you were doing a video on cooking for some reason and felt totally called out because I do in fact season my food with exclusively salt
I find it's just easier to take a break when I get frustrated. Personally, I believe that when I feel frustrated, that a big part of it is that I've been playing too long.
Maybe I need something to eat, maybe I need to get some sleep, maybe I need some exercise.
Just my experience.
I find that finding a replayable comfort game is useful. For me, when I've got just enough self control before I rage, I take a deep breath and go and play Tesla Force.
I think some of the most valuable advice I was ever given is that sometimes, you just have to walk away and come back later. I don’t really get upset with video games anymore, because I usually stop myself before I get to that point.
Sometimes when I’m angry I think about calming down, but then it just feels unsatisfying to not lash out
0:30 NO
I've had high neuroticism and low emotional stability before, but I've never been scared of being embarrassed by a loss in front of friends.
It’s just fascinating how people can create code and fights for a game that can truly push people off the edge,make them yell or destroy their keyboard/controller
And these games sell well? Why?
Sometimes when I’m up against a tough boss that I keep losing to or I’m stuck on a section, I don’t get angry per say, but I do get pretty mad that I’d break down sobbing and whenever I do, I quit playing for like months or even years until I remember I didn’t finish the game yet and try playing again to which I end up passing where I was having trouble with and finally finishing the game.
With me saltiness is kind of worse, because even if I realise that I'm too angry and it becomes destructive to me, I just can stop and give up. I can sit there doing the same thing over and over again and be too stubborn to just let myself stop and rest a bit
The Last Wish quest in The Witcher 3 gets me EVERY TIME.
Great video. Thank you for spending your time to create it.
I can stay calm. I do get mad, but i don't hit things. (I am only talking about games.)
There'r 2 games in the world (i've found so far) that makes me get angry so hard that i start hating both myself and everything around me and the game i am playing aswell. I don't hit things. But, i start to kick people out of my room who were playing with me.
First one if monopoly. Which i realised when i was a kid. Second is brawlhalla.
I used to get angry and start hitting my leg. Right leg to be accurate. With my right hand. (I'm right handed.) This rarely happens now. I am 21 now. And i started to hate almost every game since i can't git gud on anything (since last year). I love online competitive games (shooter games generally). Sadly i am not good at things i LOVE to play. Never been and probably never will be. And i am still playing "those" games.
----An example.----
I've played R6S since it came out. Since it's beta. For 5 years. I am bad in skillwise. Good in strategy. But no one listens to you when you are not showing good "end results" or "actions". (Actions as in me clutching the round, etc.) I dropped the game for 2 seasons. I am back now. And now, i am bad both in skillwise and strategy. Now, i hate myself and the game even MORE. The worst part is, since i was a kid. I hated doing things alone. So maybe, if there was someone playing the game with me in those 5 years. Maybe I'd be better at the game. Can't know, won't know.
Dude you are hilarious keep up the good work!The you choose salt joke had me laughing so fking hard.Best intro to a vid