The Most Satisfying Mechanic In Gaming

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  • Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
  • Parries in gaming are an absolute gift. Being able to suddenly shift the momentum with a well timed input is satisfying in a way that most of us simply can’t get enough of. Today, on Psych of Play, we’re dissecting the prairie, the psychology of what makes it feel so good, and how it is the absolute perfect illustration of a momentum swing in competition.
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    ▶Games Shown
    Persona 5: Royal (2019) - Atlus, P Studio
    Ghost of Tsushima (2020) - Sucker Punch Productions
    Hollow Knight (2017) - Team Cherry
    The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (2017) - Nintendo
    Final Fantasy VII Remake (2020) - Square Enix
    Super Smash Bros: Ultimate (2018) - Nintendo
    Guilty Gear Strive (2021) - Arc System Works
    NieR:Automata (2017) - PlatinumGames
    The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword (2011) - Nintendo
    Street Fighter 3 (1997) - Capcom
    Super Smash Bros: Melee (2001) - HAL Laboratory
    Pokemon Unite (2021) - TiMi Studio Group
    Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice (2019) - FromSoftware
    Metroid: Samus Returns (2017) - Mercury Steam
    ULTRAKILL (2020) - Arsi Patala
    Demon's Souls (2020) - FromSoftware
    Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening (2005) - Capcom
    Nioh (2017) - Team Ninja
    Dead Cells (2017) - Motion Twin
    Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order (2019) - Respawn Entertainment
    Furi (2016) - The Game Bakers
    Dark Souls (2011) - FromSoftware
    Nier Reincarnation (2021) - Applibot, Inc
    Dragalia Lost (2018) - Cygames
    Fire Emblem Heroes (2017) - Nintendo
    Fantasy Strike (2017) - Sirlin Games
    Onimusha: Warlords (2001) - Capcom
    Monster Hunter: World (2017) - Capcom
    Madden NFL 21 (2020) - Electronic Arts
    Dead or Alive 6 (2019) - Team Ninja
    Dragonball FighterZ (2018) - Arc System Works
    ▶Clips/Movies/Anime/TV Shown
    Ed, Edd n Eddy
    Tom and Jerry
    Spongebob Squarepants
    Demon Slayer
    Stranger Things
    Thor: Ragnarok
    Cowboy Bebop
    The Iron Giant
    Other clips and considerations:
    • PARRY PoP
    ▶Music Sources:
    Jeff II - Shadow Of Your Love
    Link to the song: • Jeff The Second - Shad...
    Xenoblade Chronicles X OST - X-BT1 (BLADE Barracks Theme)
    Persona 5 OST - The Whims of Fate (Instrumental)
    Voiderer - Roadtrip
    Link to the song: / roadtrip
    Vetrom - Chozo Laboratory - Remix Cover
    Link to the song: • Chozo Laboratory - Rem...
    Celeste B-Sides - 07 - Kuraine - Summit (No More Running Mix)
    MOKKA - (No Copyright Music) Emotional Cinematic Guitar & Orchestra [Cinematic Music] - Lost City
    Link to the song: • (No Copyright Music) E...
    Pokemon Colosseum OST - Agate Village
    ▶Research Articles Cited
    Schedules of Reinforcement
    psychology.uio...
    Extinction Rate in reinforcement schedules:
    www.simplypsyc...
    *Psychological Momentum-A Key to Continued Success
    www.ncbi.nlm.n...
    Psychological Momentum-Not a Statistical but Psychological
    Phenomenon: Response to Commentary by Avugos and Bar-Eli (2015)
    sci-hub.do/htt...
    Time-out! How psychological momentum builds up and breaks down in table tennis
    www.tandfonlin...
    Icing the Kicker: Does it Really Work?
    www.sharpfootb...
    Momentum Shifts in Sports - Value the Psychology Behind Them (Sport Psychologist written)
    www.podiumspor...
    The Psychology of the Near Miss
    sci-hub.do/htt...
    www.psychology...
    Effects of the "near miss" and the "big win" on persistence at slot machine gambling.
    doi.apa.org/do...
    #PsychofPlay #Parry

КОМЕНТАРІ • 852

  • @KlericYT
    @KlericYT 3 роки тому +1770

    If you've ever performed a Daruk's Perfect Parry in BotW on an enemy attack (2 frame window), you suddenly forget the 12 times you died trying it, and feel like a god.

    • @KlericYT
      @KlericYT 3 роки тому +215

      For anyone curious, because it's not even clear if it's an intended mechanic:
      If you get hit by an attack as soon as you let go of ZL / Daruk's Protection, it will still block/reflect the attack, without consuming any uses of Daruk's Protection, and it's visibly different as Daruk doesn't come out, and the orb doesn't shatter.

    • @TheRenaSystem
      @TheRenaSystem 3 роки тому +39

      DPP is easily my favorite intended mechanic in BOTW for this very reason (even if BILs are more convenient)
      Anyway you make excellent content Kleric, cool to see you here

    • @Dribin
      @Dribin 3 роки тому +11

      @@TheRenaSystem what is BIL? I'm still kinda knew to BotW and there are so many combat mechanics I'm learning about.

    • @LupineHero
      @LupineHero 3 роки тому +21

      @@Dribin Bomb Impact Launch, or Wind Bomb. It's the thing where you detonate one bomb to launch the other bomb into you while in bullet time.

    • @FerousFolly
      @FerousFolly 3 роки тому +27

      @@Dribin Boomie Zoomie

  • @SkywardShoe
    @SkywardShoe 3 роки тому +291

    "A platypus?"
    *swings the platypus in Doof's direction.*
    "PARRY THE PLATYPUS?!?"

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 3 роки тому +5

      O
      M
      G
      XD

    • @13Kr4zYAzN13
      @13Kr4zYAzN13 3 роки тому +5

      A ran that name at locals for a little bit. Then made it a point to parry when I could. Good times lol

  • @Yavorh55
    @Yavorh55 3 роки тому +1061

    Re: sekiro parrying is enhanced by bringing your posture meter to max but never breaking as long as you parry (and not block), leading you to feel even more pressure to keep parrying right

    • @Nazylexx
      @Nazylexx 3 роки тому +152

      Perfect deflect not breaking posture is such important mechanic in Sekiro. I feel removing it would break whole game and make it really unpleasant to play

    • @GodOfOrphans
      @GodOfOrphans 3 роки тому +51

      especially on NG+ cycles where enemies do more posture damage, without it the game would become nigh unbeatable at higher NG+ levels as every attack becomes impossible to just normal block and most of them track you too well to be dodged.

    • @hugofontes5708
      @hugofontes5708 3 роки тому +10

      Ah, yes, the "aaaaaaaaaaaaa" moment

    • @alexismcneill6296
      @alexismcneill6296 3 роки тому +7

      Y'all talking about the Sekiro parry being so necessary worries me lol. My graphics card is old so my game is constantly frames behind me and lagging so it's next to impossible for me to actually parry. I'll show y'all how to beat it anyways 😆. I need to start over though cause I've been on break from sekiro for like half a year for other games lol. Oh well, twitch won't be too mad I think.

    • @hugofontes5708
      @hugofontes5708 3 роки тому +3

      @@alexismcneill6296 my machine isn't that powerful, I constantly felt like I missed a few frames here and there
      It does make things feel harder but the only two times I had what felt like an issue were against the bull (in the middle of two areas that kept reloading and lots of particles flying) and against an Ashina Elite (Same deal plus insanely fast)
      Besides, there's always the cheese strat

  • @yarnyoshimak7913
    @yarnyoshimak7913 3 роки тому +599

    I remember I once did a BOTW run, where I decided to go straight to Calamity Ganon after the Great Plateau, no divine beasts. It was tough, but I had like 200 hours in the game, and I reached the final boss gauntlet. I defeated all of the lights and made it to the final boss. I manage to bring it to the 2nd phase, feeling confident. Then I notice. All of my weapons broke. I had no food or fairies left. And since the boss gains an immunity shield, I couldn’t spam remote bombs. I did have like 4 shields left. So now I have to finish the remaining 50% of his health to win, only by parrying. And despite the amount of time I’ve invested into the game, I was pretty awful at parrying (I usually prefer flurry rushes). But I have no other choices.
    So I begin to parry his lasers back. I get a few, but inevitably my shield breaks. And so does my second shield. And my third. I am now on my last shield, nowhere close to defeating him. I am a single shot away from death. I am screwed. And then I land a parry.
    And I land a second one. That was the first time in the entire fight I perfect parried twice in a row. And through some miracle, that second parry became a third. The third became a fourth. The fourth became a fifth. The fifth became a sixth. Eventually, that sixth became what I guess was my thirty-eighth. And with a final parry, Calamity Ganon was no more.
    I’m approaching 300 hours in the game, and that is still my favorite moment from BOTW. Those first few consecutive parries gave me the momentum I needed.

    • @HollowPurple-if2co
      @HollowPurple-if2co 3 роки тому +57

      That was excellently written

    • @TehamiA
      @TehamiA 3 роки тому +41

      Whoa you encapsulated the feeling of that moment into this comment so well that it gave me chills. Congrats on the dub

    • @najee_eee
      @najee_eee 2 роки тому +26

      That was so hype and well written

    • @3nertia
      @3nertia 2 роки тому +13

      A well told and engaging story; thank you!

    • @teamhammerbros8466
      @teamhammerbros8466 2 роки тому +6

      i cannot help but feel the timing to parry in BOTW for Ganon is a little off? I can deflect guardians easy but have trouble with ganon.

  • @sinom
    @sinom 3 роки тому +543

    6:55 hollowknight's parry is just way too tight/rare most of the time to actually feel good. Because if you do it, most of the time you're doing it on accident.

    • @gbzld
      @gbzld 3 роки тому +94

      Yeah. And even some of the best speedrunners never go purposefully for a parry. I guess Team Cherry didn't intend it to be an important part of the combat.

    • @revanf3719
      @revanf3719 3 роки тому +33

      tbh yeah, it's mostly just when I'm spamming attack and I coincidentally parry

    • @DarylTalksGames
      @DarylTalksGames  3 роки тому +160

      Interesting, I’ve definitely landed them in fights accidentally but I don’t think ever realized what it was. Maybe they’ll be a little more involved in Silksong 👀

    • @aguynamedguy9385
      @aguynamedguy9385 3 роки тому +100

      I think the big issue with hollow knight's parry is that it's not rewarding enough for the risk in going for it on purpose. The most you get is avoiding damage, which you can just do by getting out of the way, which is way easier and more consistent to do. If it had an extra benefit, like stunning the boss or something, it may be more satisfying to pull off.

    • @blackstab3913
      @blackstab3913 3 роки тому +15

      It's somewhat how I feel with Smash parries. Their are not that hard to pull off, but the reward is so little, or rather the frame advantage you get is so tight that it doesn't converse (at least at my skill bracket) that often so I don't find them that satisfying.

  • @fatyoshi696
    @fatyoshi696 3 роки тому +698

    In rivals of aether, the parry isn't only a move that allows you to counter an attack and turn the situation into your favor, but it also has big implications on the mental game. Since attempting a parry leaves you wide open and the activation window is small, performing one successfully against a human opponent is a way of telling them "I have you figured out, even if I take risks you can't do anything against me." This kind of tool, that speaks without speaking, is incredibly valuable, and fighting games are full of them.

    • @MercuryA2000
      @MercuryA2000 3 роки тому +98

      Never factor out the mental game. The moment you can make your opponent say "Oh shoot." You've already got a huge edge. I saw a clip of, for example, a jigglypuff parrying bowser's down b, you know, a move that would have literally killed puff if they failed, before comboing into the stock ending. Doing something that brazen can shake someone, and suddenly they're playing too defensive cause they're scared, or playing too aggressive cause they're annoyed, or just flubbing up cause now they're wondering if they can beat this crazy punk.

    • @fatyoshi696
      @fatyoshi696 3 роки тому +36

      Rivals actually has tons of tools that are powerful in the mental game beyond the parry, that are incredibly rewarding if you're good and have a grip on your opponent's play. Elliana's guided missile can break you out of combos if you can control it while DI-ing and keeping track of your opponent's movement at the same time, and leads to a strong punish if they're mined. Ori's bash is a stupidly strong kill confirm at the end of a combo, as you can launch them in the exact direction you want, but whiffing it sends you into freefall so if you whiff it offstage, where it's strongest, you're essentially dead. Practically everyone in the game has a tool like this, which gives you a sensation of control over the game and domination, and a sensation of being dominated to your opponent.

    • @tracaine
      @tracaine 3 роки тому +15

      @@MercuryA2000 This comment would be absolute nonsense 30 years ago and you'd be questioned as to whether you're having a stroke.

    • @DarylTalksGames
      @DarylTalksGames  3 роки тому +77

      @@MercuryA2000 couldn’t agree with you more, there is so much said in the little moments of a matchup. So much communicated simply through reactions and decisions. It’s what makes fighting games so tremendously special imo

    • @xavibun
      @xavibun 3 роки тому +4

      Chad Rivals of Aether enjoyer, just like me.

  • @Not_Aaron_
    @Not_Aaron_ 3 роки тому +979

    Man your editing is just getting better and better, I love the openings and the music timed edits you do!

    • @DarylTalksGames
      @DarylTalksGames  3 роки тому +111

      Thanks so much! I was really just kind of playing with that intro and it felt good enough to keep

    • @jellythejellyfish7035
      @jellythejellyfish7035 3 роки тому +20

      @@DarylTalksGames you put Xenoblade Chronicles x music in this video, thank you. I didn't think people remembered this game exists

    • @GamerBoy870
      @GamerBoy870 3 роки тому +4

      @@DarylTalksGames love your videos look forward to more.

    • @Hey-zb4jq
      @Hey-zb4jq 3 роки тому +5

      I came back to the video just to see the intro again
      Good job deryl

  • @moon_pug
    @moon_pug 3 роки тому +571

    Honorable parry mention: when you revive your co player in Cuphead with an out of frame parry 😌

    • @finesseandstyle
      @finesseandstyle 3 роки тому +19

      Another one: genji deflect against a widow in overwatch

    • @hazz4rd201
      @hazz4rd201 Рік тому +1

      @@finesseandstyle even more satisfying against a hanzo, considering you have to time their movements too

  • @OldtheOldOne
    @OldtheOldOne 3 роки тому +49

    That last parry in the end of the vid send me into heaven, right down to the deepest sea and back to my couch

  • @ShopperKungVtuber
    @ShopperKungVtuber 3 роки тому +53

    Dante's Royal Release and Kiryu's Tiger Drop is my most satisfy parry ever for me

    • @skisimx
      @skisimx 3 роки тому +5

      the crunch sound you get from hitting tiger drop is just so good

    • @elkmeatenjoyer3409
      @elkmeatenjoyer3409 2 роки тому +5

      I agree with you but I would add 1. Royal full release from dante with royal guard 2. Sekiro perfect deflecting múltiple hits 3.bloodborne parry

    • @soupeverywhere9565
      @soupeverywhere9565 2 роки тому

      So based

    • @pikachuattack542
      @pikachuattack542 2 роки тому

      For me, getting King's chain grabs is so satisfying, if they fuck up the tech.

  • @tavrincallas3218
    @tavrincallas3218 3 роки тому +119

    I've noticed that PM comes into play a lot even in single player games, at least for me. If I'm having a great run in a roguelike and then I go back to it the following day instead of playing the run in one go, my performance the next day is usually noticeably worse. That's why when I'm playing particularly well I try to get to the end of the run instead of taking breaks (if possible)

    • @jenbooob
      @jenbooob 3 роки тому +14

      You can also use that to your advantage. If you have a bad streak of plays you can always take a break and get back to it another day and find yourself playing out of your mind

    • @tavrincallas3218
      @tavrincallas3218 3 роки тому +2

      @@jenbooob true, great point! :)

    • @sidneyrobinson18
      @sidneyrobinson18 Рік тому +1

      Yeah I went to play returnal once, a friend and I were taking turns each death, I felt bad because I beat one area after my 3rd attempt then went on a hot streak and cleared the entire next area without dying g

  • @Not_Aaron_
    @Not_Aaron_ 3 роки тому +44

    Parrying or doing something very rare is something that when it happens it feels like the next moments you are way better at the game and for some reason you seem to do way better than usually.

    • @stolensentience
      @stolensentience Рік тому

      Because the parry itself puts you at such an advantage and the opponent at strict disadvantage for the next sequence or two.

  • @larsnyman2455
    @larsnyman2455 3 роки тому +150

    I just beat Sekiro last week, and as much as I want to play other games in my library, I can’t stop
    Maybe I *am* Shura

    • @lucianobradley5996
      @lucianobradley5996 3 роки тому +27

      @redxpen The final boss is probably the best designed boss in the game. I would recommend finishing the game just to experience that.
      If you need help with Snake Eyes, try using the stealth candy to sneak behind him and get the first deathblow free. Then spam firecrackers throughout the second phase.

    • @ForeverMasterless
      @ForeverMasterless 3 роки тому +19

      @redxpen There aren't really that many "tips and tricks." The combat is pretty straightforward compared to Dark Souls, and it's not like there are different builds. You just have to get good at it. That said, people have definitely found ways to cheese a lot of the bosses since I first played. Idk if the particular boss you're stuck on has a cheese strat, but it's worth looking into. If you're talking about the boss I think you're talking about, I pretty much just pushed him into the cave area with the fog wall, stayed right in his face, and wailed on him and parried his attacks.

    • @devilvocano420
      @devilvocano420 3 роки тому +6

      @redxpen
      U dont have to
      U can fight a 1v1 after sneaking behind her for 1 deathblow
      Just avoid that grab and its alright

    • @larsnyman2455
      @larsnyman2455 3 роки тому +2

      @redxpen the game is worth playing to completion, but the next few bosses area pain.
      Shirahagi is weak to fire, and an upgraded umbrella will save your life
      As for the Mist Noble, all I can say is “Hesitation is Defeat”
      Edit, also if you jump just a bit before the grab, you can punish with a few overhead slashes

    • @DracoDxl
      @DracoDxl 3 роки тому +2

      @redxpen ​ In addition to what Luciano said, a prosthetic tool called Sabimaru helps a ton with the Snake Eyes. The issue in that fight (at least in my experience) was definitely the grab, gotta experiment with escaping that but once you can consistently avoid it, an aggressive playstyle works wonders. The only advice I can really give you is _"Hesitation is defeat".... and maybe bring an umbrella._

  • @yaboink8706
    @yaboink8706 3 роки тому +114

    i remember a time when I was playing Battlefront II and it was a lightsaber duel. I was Kylo Ren and my opponent was Obi-Wan Kenobi. He was really good and brought my health down to less then 50. And when he was going to finish me, I parried him. He attacked me again, I parried him. I parried him several times and killed him. One of biggest clutches I’ve ever made

    • @patheticminister6398
      @patheticminister6398 3 роки тому +5

      So u parry spam...shamful
      Jk that untouchable feeling is amazing

    • @jashirei7581
      @jashirei7581 2 роки тому +1

      @@patheticminister6398 skillful actually? Idk, i never got to BF2

    • @zythel341
      @zythel341 4 місяці тому

      Know I'm two years late, but it is sad that parrying is only really viable in BF2 against bad players :( I just don't get the opportunity to use it when i actually matters, in a super sweaty duel.

  • @eh9618
    @eh9618 3 роки тому +53

    That feeling of mastering the parry is amazing, so satisfying. The best part of parrying is that you know you can master it. Stuff like combos, etc can be too complicated and overwhelming. But parrying, It's easy to learn but difficult to master. You know the core concept of it, but can't put it into practice. Once you start to master it, that catharsis is immeasurable. I still remember practicing in the forgotten temple and manage to parry multiple guardian shots simultaneously 1-2 times..damn that's satisfying

    • @izzy4bitney
      @izzy4bitney 3 роки тому +1

      I have so much time spent on BoTw and I still cannot parry worth a damn. That or any other game really. It never seems to click for me, though not for lack of effort.

    • @eh9618
      @eh9618 3 роки тому +1

      @@izzy4bitney parrying isn't the only option, that game is systematic, so play however you wanna play!

    • @izzy4bitney
      @izzy4bitney 3 роки тому

      @@eh9618 Oh, they all die anyway lmao, just in fun and terrifying ways that have nothing to do with parrying. Thx 😊

    • @eh9618
      @eh9618 3 роки тому

      @@izzy4bitney ye. Tho a perfect dodge is just as satisfying as a parry

  • @devad768
    @devad768 3 роки тому +183

    Is it weird that the whole segment about the variable reinforcement schedules perfectly encompasses me while waiting for a Psych of Play episode? I constantly check the channel for a new vid since notifications are wonky for me, and sometimes I’m rewarded :)
    Is this video a sign from Daryl that we are being conditioned to watch his videos?

    • @alexkozliayev9902
      @alexkozliayev9902 3 роки тому +1

      Actually, variable reinforcement is used by social networks when composing your feed.

  • @christiangutierrez8841
    @christiangutierrez8841 3 роки тому +44

    Parrying my friends with the Fire Emblem characters on Smash is just soooooo satisfying, it's like telling them on their faces "i already figure out your style"

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 3 роки тому +2

      PREDICTABLE!
      -Poultry Howards
      XD

  • @jdhidalgo9445
    @jdhidalgo9445 3 роки тому +13

    Maybe not a parry at all, but this made me remember the momentum shift when, on a racing game, you begin to drive well, pass the others and eventually win that hard fought race, it's an unexplicable feeling.
    Amazing video!

  • @highvoltage7559
    @highvoltage7559 3 роки тому +63

    The most satisfying things in Sekiro to me are:
    - Dodging non-peril attacks with i-frames, because you only get 6 while deflection gets around 14.
    - Deflecting thrusts because mikiri counter has a massive window, and in many cases deflecting a thrust leads to the target doing a more elaborate attack that is trickier to deal with.
    - Avoiding sweeps with moves that lift you off the ground instead of just jumping, as sweeps only have a very thin hitbox on the ground itself regardless of the object itself.
    - Perfectly deflecting attacks with questionable and inconsistent windows, like Emma's Ashina Cross and Isshin's glock. Genichiro's jumping 4 arrow attack too feels extremely satisfying to deflect because for some reason it has a very tricky timing to get down right. Though I've yet to perfectly deflect his spam combo, which is apparently doable, but not in the way you'd think.
    - Deflecting the Divine Dragon. It's not hard but it sure feels cool to deflect air slashes and even his hand which can break his posture eventually.
    - Walking around Corrupted Monk's helicopter spin. A friend of mine discovered that blindspot and ever since I saw it I can't help but use it.

    • @hugofontes5708
      @hugofontes5708 3 роки тому +3

      All things I've done on accident a couple times and for the life of me haven't got down to do on purpose
      Dodging through things in this game feels insane

    • @meowdy3444
      @meowdy3444 3 роки тому

      Bruh i didnt know you could deflect the divine dragon lmao

    • @sohibmohmed8292
      @sohibmohmed8292 2 роки тому

      Basically everything is deflectble, except sweeping attacks, terror, fire, and poison

    • @thedoomslayer5863
      @thedoomslayer5863 2 роки тому +1

      Eh deflect feels cooler. The clang of metal swords never fails to make me rock solid. Dodging to me feels pretty lame in most mediums it's in.
      I find things like how your parry is tier to your movement and attack in say metal gear rising though antiquated and out of date (and the counter swing to have no fucking range wich is infuriating) to be cooler as I can attack attack attack deflect/parry attack attack attack and I don't need to let the onslaught stop if I'm good enough.
      Dodging feels like a "woah I'm too much of a bitch to take that head on" play. So in sekiro parrying a sword bigger than my entire body or parrying a giant demons stomp is infinitely cooler than just dodging through it.

    • @limb-o7180
      @limb-o7180 2 роки тому

      I use the senpou leaping kicks to dodge true monk's sweeps and it's the most satisfying thing ever

  • @funnymoss-man
    @funnymoss-man 3 роки тому +37

    This might just be me, but the sound effect of the dark souls parry will always be the most satisfying. Just that feeling of being stomped by an enemy or caught in a combo, then that bang plays and you know the tides have shifted, even if only for a second

    • @Shvabicu
      @Shvabicu 3 роки тому +2

      It's especially dreaded in PvP because it usually means that you're getting oneshot

    • @13Hyrule
      @13Hyrule 3 роки тому +2

      I think the sound effect of the Bloodborne parry trumps it.

    • @autisticturtle1849
      @autisticturtle1849 3 роки тому +1

      @@13Hyrule
      Idk I feel like the dark souls parry sounds more intimidating

    • @thedoomslayer5863
      @thedoomslayer5863 2 роки тому +2

      Even though I think the parry in souls games is pretty shit outside of sekiro I do like how the bosses that CAN be parried are made to kneel when u pull one off. Like seeing this supposed legendary figure gywn on his knees after you just parried his ass and a lowly undead (you) now lording over him even if only briefly

  • @Klaux
    @Klaux 3 роки тому +3

    15:45 I thought he was gonna say "a little bit of trolling" by the end of that lmao

  • @S4PPH0M3T
    @S4PPH0M3T 3 роки тому +9

    You said "Jackpot" multiple times and had clips from DMC3 peppered throughout... We were on the verge of greatness. We were so close (I kid, this video was excellent, thank you.)

  • @BreadBeardFGC
    @BreadBeardFGC 2 роки тому +2

    Two of the greatest parry mechanics in gaming in my opinion share a really potent commonality.
    The Street Fighter Third Strike "Parry" and the Sekiro "Mikiri Counter" are both done by 'moving towards danger', in SF3 it's a well timed 'forward' input and in Sekiro it's a well timed forward dash.
    Fighting every primal urge to "retreat" or block and instead throwing yourself at the oncoming danger and being rewarded with a brief opening is what makes these two parries so unbelievably memorable to me.

  • @stonetimekeeper
    @stonetimekeeper 3 роки тому +16

    Obligatory rage at not talking about Sekiro enough.
    That being said, great video. I would have like to see the parry and visceral attack mechanic from Bloodborne.

  • @personalgamedevyt9830
    @personalgamedevyt9830 Рік тому +1

    Really interesting hearing the psychology of the Parry. It makes complete sense with the risk/reward mechanic along with the mental state change you mention of like "the underdog turning the tide of the battle".
    Thank you for the talk!

  • @Road_to_Dawn
    @Road_to_Dawn 12 днів тому

    For a more recent example, Zenless Zone Zero was my first thought when I saw this thumbnail. One of the (many) fun things about the game is how the game lets you look cool doing stuff with effort, but not TOO much effort. And no better place is this displayed than with the parries. ZZZ has some of the most satisfying parries I’ve ever seen. The timing window is pretty tight, but not too tight, and it’s telegraphed clearly with a short, bright flash. And then you get the parry, the camera hits the floor and looks up at your character’s weapon clashing against the enemy’s, with these *enormous* “CLANG… CLANG”s that are probably the loudest sound effects in the game’s files. It’s incredible.

  • @icarue993
    @icarue993 3 роки тому +2

    I studied some psychology too, and another factor is *expectation*. If you expect things to go a certain way, you will be happier if they exceed your expectations (lower if they do). New players might do the parry without expecting it to work, and be surprised when they do. Experienced players might do the parry expecting it to work but be frustrated when it doesn't happen.

  • @luciferofastora
    @luciferofastora 2 роки тому +1

    I'm just here to say that, even when you've mastered parrying in Dark Souls, I still feel awesome every time. Sure, I get it right pretty much everytime, to the point where I prefer parry-riposte as a playstyle to the more risky dodge-attack or preemptive-attack-stun approaches, simply because it allows me to reliably avoid damage, finish a fight quickly and grants me a moment of invulnerability in a fight with multiple enemies.
    But it's just as satisfying every single time. That drum sound, the visceral gushing of the riposte, the brief moment of gloating while my character introduces the enemy's vital organs to the business end of a rapier - never gets old.

  • @swarth8632
    @swarth8632 3 роки тому +5

    Onimusha parries are incredibly satisfying!!! Glad to see em represented in this video!

  • @kingnelms257
    @kingnelms257 Рік тому +1

    Performing a parry in Ghost of Tsushima and Jedi: Fallen Order is soooo satisfying! I mean that ting sound and that reward from getting that perfect counter is amazing, not to mention, the trial and error of both games making you sweat.

  • @Mennenth
    @Mennenth Рік тому +1

    Ultrakills parry is my favorite parry. Its so friggen good! The sound, the flash, the slowdown, the healing, and of course launching the projectile back at the enemy automatically with no need to do any follow up inputs (though you do have to aim). Its glorious, especially since you can parry a HUGE amount of the attacks in Ultrakill so it makes v1 (your character) feel like an unstoppable badass.

  • @mmmgog
    @mmmgog 3 роки тому +6

    This is probably my favourite series on youtube, the hard work and research put into every episode really shows . Truly awesome stuff man, keep it up :)

  • @TaylorWrightVA
    @TaylorWrightVA 3 роки тому +5

    The feedback is the positive reinforcement that makes it feel so satisfying. 👌

  • @d0ggy947
    @d0ggy947 3 роки тому +1

    14:50 that transition was so damn clean, commenting it because i'm sure it feels good when someone notices

  • @karai_sky
    @karai_sky 3 роки тому +1

    4:01 using whims of fate while talking about gambling's relationship to parries? instant like

  • @the7saviors276
    @the7saviors276 3 роки тому +2

    Mad props for throwing on a XCX track in the background. Underrated ost imo and I'm glad it's got some recognition.

    • @Marc-lf4du
      @Marc-lf4du 3 роки тому

      I knew I recognised it. God it's got a damn good soundtrack

  • @he_wildn
    @he_wildn 8 місяців тому

    Ever since I first experienced parrying in gaming I fell in LOVE with the mechanic🔥🔥

  • @MateusCunhaMello
    @MateusCunhaMello 3 роки тому +2

    Daryl please never stop. I love your analysis on the Psych of Play, you are awesome.

  • @ButlersTraining
    @ButlersTraining 3 роки тому

    One of the greatest video essayist on yt. Probably the best video essayist when it comes to gaming

  • @dernamenlosefan
    @dernamenlosefan 3 роки тому +2

    Another game where parrying feels really satisfying is For Honor, especially due to how heavy and light attacks have different speed with the slow but hard hitting heavy attacks being easier to parry but are feintable and only guarantee a light attack as punish on parry, where light attacks are faster, can't be feinted and if you actually manage to parry one give you a heavy attack punish, even letting you execute the enemy if you land the killing blow with it.
    They also have that satisfying metal crunch sound on parry with the harder to get light parry being higher pitch and a bit louder as well as giving off a white flash of light.

    • @pablorazo7599
      @pablorazo7599 2 роки тому +1

      Finally! A For Honor player! I was disappointed to see that Bary didn't mention or include For Honor. While many of Bary's points carry over to For Honor, it doesn't cover all of it. For Honor is such a unique game. There is literally, and I mean Literally.. no other game like it. I want him to do a video on For Honor covering it's own parry topic or mechanics or a psychological analysis. But I think that's wishful thinking.

    • @dernamenlosefan
      @dernamenlosefan 2 роки тому +1

      @@pablorazo7599 well he obviously can't cover everything, I am glad that anybody covered the joy of parrying at all.
      And yeah FH is one of a kind and sometimes it's sad to know (a similar game with different theme could really be something).

  • @eduardoserpa1682
    @eduardoserpa1682 3 роки тому +1

    Ah, the Millia player talking about psychological momentum. Of course. Great video!

  • @KeijoAmbersson
    @KeijoAmbersson 3 роки тому +1

    Parrying followed by special sound ques letting you know you just pulled something neat off. Followed by endorphine reward. I'm glad you noticed and emphasized this aspect, it's a huge factor.
    My favorite one is Bloodborne's gun parry. Sharp gunshot sound followed by a high-pitch "ping" to let you know you nailed it, and are now free to indulge yourself on a gory visceral attack.

  • @LokheeNyx
    @LokheeNyx 3 роки тому +11

    This vid literally gave me goosebumps and caused my heart to beat like a storm! I don't even like sports too much, but seeing these plays backed with your connection to psychology made me just a *tinsy* bit more interested haha. (Plus now I have like 3 games to add to my 'Future game list...')

  • @ZakZak246
    @ZakZak246 3 роки тому +4

    Had a feeling a video like this was coming ever since you put out that tweet. Also the Bloodborne Stagger 😩😩

  • @arxeha
    @arxeha 3 роки тому +1

    Now I wanna play DMC5 with royalguard style again. Can never be too wrong with the good ol parry

  • @tomurashigaraki6644
    @tomurashigaraki6644 2 роки тому

    Omg this boosts my self esteem very much after i spent my whole life perfecting the parry/counter!!!

  • @Thepigofthesea
    @Thepigofthesea 2 роки тому +1

    I remember when I first no hitted a lynel in BotW, and I proceeded to go on a hunt, killing all the ones I could remember where to find. Felt good man.

  • @leafafalian7964
    @leafafalian7964 3 роки тому +1

    I love the description of parries and counters as gambles. But it's because that's exactly why I never go for them. I played through BOTW without ever parrying outside of the tutorial, and that goes for pretty much every game I've ever played. I just don't like gambles. The frustration of missing the timing and taking the hit, or even the death, outweighs the satisfaction of a jackpot for me. I've spent numerous battles shaving one sliver off my enemies' HP after the next until I've won, rather than risking the encounter for only the potential of big damage.

  • @awesome_by_default
    @awesome_by_default Рік тому

    For Honor has this as well, with several types. The standard parry that is even more rewarding against the faster, and thus harder to parry, light attacks, as well as things like deflecting and some character specific actions. They're some of my favorite examples of counters. The steel on steel grinding of the Orochi parry or deflect, the heavy clunk as the opponent's weapon hits the Lawbringer's Halberd. It is euphoric.

  • @alejandrozamoracarvajal1696
    @alejandrozamoracarvajal1696 3 роки тому +4

    I love how Dead Cells does this, I've been playing it for a long time and once you get up to 5BC you start to realize how the games tricks. Shields in Dead Cells are not meant to block, they're meant to parry, that's why the parry isn't that rewarding, the game is telling you "Hey, this is not something weird or hard to pull of, this IS what you have to do, and you better do it fast".

  • @billyjoe2974
    @billyjoe2974 3 роки тому +1

    Really good video dude! That ending parry sound at the end of the video was sooo satisfying

  • @abigailharris1099
    @abigailharris1099 3 роки тому

    God that clashing sound at the end and blackness gave me chills! Great job dude

  • @mushroommontage4226
    @mushroommontage4226 2 роки тому

    One of my favorite "Substances" is ds3 PVP hornet ring parry, it is pretty short but the slam into the ground is EXTREMELY satisfying without being so long you are discouraged from doing it

  • @swaqvalley
    @swaqvalley 3 роки тому +2

    One of my favorite parry systems is in the Ys games (Ys VIII / Ys IX). When you correctly time a flash guard/move you get a couple seconds of invincibility which can be extended with continued parries. Very satisfying in boss battles.

  • @moss6235
    @moss6235 3 роки тому +1

    My favorite psychology topic in the world, conditioning and reinforcement, combined with one of my favorite hobbies makes for an extremely interesting video. Good work!

  • @__Razer
    @__Razer 2 роки тому +1

    I wanna shout out to Mount & Blade: Warband - Napoleonic Wars chambering/parrying. You have to time the start of your swing with the moment the enemy would hit you, and you have to mirror the direction the opponent is attacking from (the game for those who don't know has directional attacks/blocks)
    A successful chamber makes a metal clank sound and you're holding an attack to hit someone who is still recovering from getting chambered by you. The best part about this when two high-skill players meet is the only reliable defense to getting chambered is chambering back, because you don't have time to block, but you have just enough time to counter chamber. This can go back and forth indefinitely but the winning move is usually to fake out your opponent by holding your attack slightly longer so they miss their timing window. Loved that game. We would do chamber circles for fun. Start with as many players as you want, throw an attack to your right and they chamber it, turn and attack the player to their right, round and round the circle it goes until someone dies, then go again until only one remains.

  • @mariusantonoaie7126
    @mariusantonoaie7126 2 роки тому

    I heard about this momentum as "the zone", where after a big play or something big, the player enters a state in which he unconsciously becames like a god.

  • @SlushieDee
    @SlushieDee 2 роки тому

    The way I nearly jumped out of my seat in excitement for that 1 second of Dragalia Lost footage in the intro and then immediately remembered the game's current situation and got sad 😔

  • @beingmegucaissuffering.5326
    @beingmegucaissuffering.5326 3 роки тому

    Not exactly a parry, but I'm reminded of a tower defense match in Splatoon where I somehow managed to stop the tower when it was 1 away from my team's goal. It took me a second to register what had happened, but after I did I reclaimed the tower and started spamming the "Come on!" button and we ended up pushing into overtime and winning.
    Most clutch round I've had in that game tbh.

  • @3nertia
    @3nertia 2 роки тому

    "... gives you confidence, it can give you lightning in a bottle" - what a brilliant way to put it!

  • @krell.1415
    @krell.1415 3 роки тому

    13:02 "You've thrown the emperor off his groove!"

  • @exigentspr.4899
    @exigentspr.4899 3 роки тому +3

    I also very much appreciate rewarded dodge mechanics like DMC's time stop mechanics, also prevalent and personally my favorite is in Honkai Impact's Time Fracture mechanics.

  • @Tigerbro6
    @Tigerbro6 3 роки тому +1

    love the strive footage daryl, hope you give leo whitefang a try. he has a parry when he's in his backstance and it feels awesome to read your opponent with a partial parry or a command grab.

  • @JesusDelmar
    @JesusDelmar 3 роки тому

    ...jackpot (parry sound).
    Goosebumps, man

  • @Discoh
    @Discoh 3 роки тому

    I totally agree about how damn satisfying parrying is, especially with the right feedback, it feels really good to pull off. Seeing a gamble pay off and turn the tides of battle will always be thrilling to me. The fact that there is real psychological backing to this phenomenon honestly makes it that much cooler in my eyes - come to think of it, I think that goes for everything you cover on this channel.
    Fantastic video as always! Really dig the editing this time, all the little goofs and syncing things up to the music never fails to put a smile on my face. Keep up the great work.

  • @indexRight
    @indexRight 3 роки тому +4

    Gotta say ultra kill is my favorite game at the moment so glad to see it got in here, I’d love to hear your thoughts on it

  • @themisanthropicnihilist8277
    @themisanthropicnihilist8277 3 роки тому

    Scott pilgrim's party is my favorite counter, especially when it goes to slow motion and killing a boss. It's kind of overlooked but I love it. Counters really are so hype in general. Love this vid

  • @WaifuRuns
    @WaifuRuns 3 роки тому

    Amazing vid as always

  • @icecreambone
    @icecreambone Рік тому +1

    remember that the skinner box studies engagement *but not burnout*

  • @mac3433
    @mac3433 3 роки тому

    In dead cells for me the parry mechanic is so much pressure in the beginner for me and in the end... continue to be a pressure but beginner to be fun, parry all the giant attacks and defeat to get the achievement is a truly blessed moment in 5 bc, man i love parry mechanic

  • @Jamandabop
    @Jamandabop 3 роки тому +1

    That section on turnarounds hurt. What you described is exactly how I lost out on a $50 eshop card in a smash game.

  • @veridan2582
    @veridan2582 3 роки тому

    There's a strange community game mode in a game that helped me overall with these types of timings many many years ago: Team Fortress 2's "Pyro Dodgeball."
    Two teams of pyros who can only airblast, and a single, heat-seeking rocket on the field that can be blasted back and forth, changing targets and getting faster with every blast.
    When those matches come down to a 1v1, with both players being good... it was always a mesmerizing experience seeing how much time people had put into being able to time their airblast perfectly, even when the rocket is moving faster than the trail can show where it is... absolute madness. A mode where a single player can bring back a match with great timing and skill. I loved it c':

  • @johntreber
    @johntreber 3 роки тому

    When the section about psychological momentum began with the music from the C Side of The Summit from Celeste I got real flashback chills 👍

  • @cesarshido5696
    @cesarshido5696 3 роки тому

    the sound of parry is mega satisfying like that sound makes you click and you're like : BULLSEYE

  • @praisemeheathens2265
    @praisemeheathens2265 3 роки тому +1

    I doubt you shall see this, but might I suggest a potentially fun and intriguing video topic? It's about Frost Punk and the inevitable descent into a lack of morality that your desperation causes.
    You likely won't even realize it at first, but if you do then each choice you make will likely cause your heart to ache. The lows are crushing and instill a sense of hopelessness and dread; the highs are shockingly invigorating and joyous, and in this small city builder game you find that with each day that passes you both are relieved to have survived the terrible icy storms and dreading the days and nights to come.
    My favorite example of the community love and feelings about the game Is actually in the youtube comments for the extended version of my favorite song from the game titled "The City Must Survive", an emotional piece of music that seems to follow a rhythm like a chugging engine - the heart of the city. The people talk about their struggles and triumphs and darkest moments and it's amazing.
    I recommend checking it out! Even if it's just the comments.

  • @Nefi424
    @Nefi424 3 роки тому

    Talking about momentum while playing Celeste music in the bg. Good stuff.

  • @robertmouse3782
    @robertmouse3782 3 роки тому +355

    Another person passionately praising parrying? This prodigious performance has me pondering that perhaps my patreon payments are predominantly paying for proper programming after all. Please proceed with producing more prominent programs that I may peruse.

    • @DarylTalksGames
      @DarylTalksGames  3 роки тому +97

      9/10, could have fit poignant in there somewhere 😂

    • @mekannatarry1929
      @mekannatarry1929 3 роки тому +8

      I can feel the spit from here.

    • @katherinebaker9909
      @katherinebaker9909 3 роки тому +16

      I promise the parry praising video is part of a perpetually perfect program to peruse. I presume the perfect place to postulate on parrying is prominently placed in the perfect pieces of postulation put here.

    • @facundocangro4767
      @facundocangro4767 3 роки тому +3

      @@katherinebaker9909 that's a lot of words with p

    • @cestlavie5063
      @cestlavie5063 3 роки тому +8

      You must be V's lost friend, P.

  • @lmnlmnl
    @lmnlmnl 3 роки тому

    Moment #37 still gives me chills up to this day. Great Video!!

  • @addicted2pokemon2
    @addicted2pokemon2 2 роки тому +1

    Hey man I saw your comment under taia777’s chrono trigger check point video, and I just wanted to say I just found your videos, and they’re supper good. Just subbed, and keep your chin up.

  • @COREcasual
    @COREcasual 3 роки тому +3

    THIS!!! the parry is why sekiro is my favorite game of all time. and now adays, if an action game doesn't have a parry mechanic, I tend to not stick with it for very long. Try GRIME its great with a cool parry/absorb mechanic

  • @Raymando
    @Raymando 3 роки тому

    Eyyy l remember you discussing parries on Twitter a couple days ago. Couldn't wait for the video.

  • @anythinginvolvingsharks
    @anythinginvolvingsharks 3 роки тому

    some of those visual transitions were lit, bruh.

  • @AkliSa
    @AkliSa Рік тому

    Some transitions in this video are other worldly!

  • @RED_XLR
    @RED_XLR Рік тому

    "lots of metal in these games" Got me. lmao. Idk but that's so true.

  • @davidleonorowitz5848
    @davidleonorowitz5848 3 роки тому

    You r one of the most underrated youtubers out there. From the editing script and overall presentation of these videos 20 min goes by in seconds. You deserve a million+ subscribers. Keep going and I know you'll make it!

  • @BrianSpurrier
    @BrianSpurrier Рік тому

    I remember in Metroid Dread, the first time I did an EMMI parry I was just kinda shocked and took a moment before bolting. Then a few seconds later I got caught again right next to the exit door. I remember just fully confidently parrying it again without even thinking about it. I just knew it would work and it did.

  • @jscs9960
    @jscs9960 Рік тому

    your editing skills are continuously improving! I absolutely adore the way you craft the openings and synchronize them with the music. Great job!

  • @sageoftruth
    @sageoftruth 8 місяців тому

    Interesting. The part about psychological momentum made a lot of sense. I think some of the best game "parries" are the one that capitalize on that psychological momentum, or even reward it. The kind that don't just hand you victory but expect you to earn it, now that things are swinging your way. Like, parries that leave an opponent vulnerable to a big combo. What really made me think of it though was that brief clip of Onimusha.
    The counter move in that game lets you instant-kill, or seriously damage your opponent, but if you carefully time another press of the attack button right afterwards, you'll do it again to another opponent, and again, and again, for each time that you land that button press afterwards, turning a single-opponent counter attack into a potential room clearer. It often requires a bit of confidence, since you won't be mentally ready to do it if you're not already expecting to land the counter.

  • @Lewdology
    @Lewdology 3 роки тому +3

    Love that Nioh, FURI and Onimusha got shown.
    I'm gonna add here the newer Ys titles like Celceta, VII, VIII and IX. Flash Guard is sweet.
    Also, did you watch EVO GGST? That was very enjoyable, even if it was online.

  • @_dense
    @_dense Рік тому

    the parry noise at the end 😍😵‍💫

  • @oxygenmolecule3092
    @oxygenmolecule3092 2 роки тому

    I like how the only clips from ULTRAKILL are the ones where you parry your own shotgun pellets lmao, amazing.

  • @DShawnPaytonOffiicial
    @DShawnPaytonOffiicial Рік тому

    Excellent video!
    I play Ryu with V Trigger 2 in Street Fighter 5 and love to use his mega parry in tense situations. Feels so good to land it for a round win, but missing it makes me look like I should get two for flinching, and I usually miss it. Going for it is still worth it, just for the thrill and rush.
    Whenever I get hit with any of Kolin's parries my eyes widen and I have to lean back in awe. The way she screams at you as she tosses you around is perfect, makes you feel like an ignoramus for even thinking you had a turn to take.
    Street Fighter 5 had a rough start which turned many people away from it, but now that it's been through many changes, it has become a great game for moments like the subject of this video. Street Fighter 6 looks like it will be even better, so I look forward to seeing high level parries and awesome comebacks for the foreseeable future.

  • @masculineshiver
    @masculineshiver 3 роки тому

    Saturday night: check
    ice cream: check
    New Daryl Talks Games upload: check
    all the ingredients for a good time

  • @vilek_7235
    @vilek_7235 3 роки тому +1

    What I like about nioh is how many counters you have on that game, some of them even parrying the yokai enemies that you can't otherwise, it's a shame that most of them don't work that way

  • @AgeOfDanarchy
    @AgeOfDanarchy 2 роки тому

    Ngl my favorite iteration of this mechanic is the way it was handled in God of War 2018. So damn satisfying and fun

  • @onatgz
    @onatgz 3 роки тому +1

    it ain't gambling if you know you're gonna win, boi. /walks off looking cool

  • @SocraTetris
    @SocraTetris 3 роки тому +1

    I have heard of Psychological Moment called by the name "The Hawthorne Effect." Though the original term has been broadened from the original usage. It basically means either having performance improved or worsened by the influence of being observed by an audience. Or, as WoolieVS calls it, "The LP Tax"

  • @V1p3r65
    @V1p3r65 3 роки тому +1

    A bit of a less traditional example:
    In titanfall 2, the ronin titan has a phase shift ability, a teleport that also makes you invincible. As a pilot, it is possible to rodeo a titan and steal its battery, dealing a lot of damage. However, if timed correctly, the phase shift will make it so that the enemy pilot gets the battery, but all damage is negated. After that, the ronin can just one hit the pilot and reclaim the battery, for a shield boost and a bit of super-meter.

  • @deadstroyer952
    @deadstroyer952 3 роки тому +1

    boy oh boy if you like parrying then you're gonna really love a specific boss that comes up later in ultrakill (actually two specific bosses)

  • @cubemaster6707
    @cubemaster6707 3 роки тому

    Great video Daryl! Nice to finally put some psychology behind the visceral feeling I get when parrying Gwyn over and over in Dark Souls