Secrets of nugget detecting No. 6: Dealing with hot rocks when metal detecting for gold nuggets
Вставка
- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- One of the things that drive many detector operators crazy in certain goldfields is the presence of hot rocks. These are stones that have a mineralization and response significantly different than the surrounding soil and gravel. They have a magnetic response and contain mineral levels either much more or much less than the soil the detector is ground balanced for, so the detector often sees them as targets (sometimes they sound off as very loud, strong targets, but more often as moderate to faint). Like a metallic target, the larger and closer to the surface the hot rock is, the louder it will sound off on your detector. Hot rocks and mineralization cause many beginning prospectors to give up and decide that finding gold with a metal detector is impossible. This video shows how to deal with them.
For those who want to learn more about prospecting and finding gold check out my book, Fists full of Gold. It’s an encyclopedia of everything on the topic of prospecting. It’s available on Amazon. You can find it at (affiliate):
www.amazon.com/gp/product/098...
For even more information on prospecting, minerals, gems and other related information you can also check out my website at:
nevada-outback-gems.com/prospe...
The Prospecting and Mining Journal magazine can be found at:
www.icmj.com - Навчання та стиль
That recommendation to turn down the gain is a blessing Chris !
You described ME perfectly as I attempt to get familiar with my Gold Bug Pro (detecting near Bodie, California), as I gave up in disgust coming back to my RV to watch more of your videos and finally understand the way to solve the "hot rock" problem.
(This area is filthy with hot rocks and it was driving me crazy)
Now that I'm comfortable lowering the gain to isolate these nasty hot rocks, I can be more comfortable knowing that I'm not "turning off" the detectors capabilities, only helping me to avoid all the noise that drove me crazy the first week using my detector.
I'm glad to know it was helpful for you.
Thank you Chris! Very helpful video! You do an excellent job! I have both the 1000 and 2300 great machines. The 2300 is much more quiet. I learn something every time I use them. You are a great instructor, by the way you talk with Jeff way outstanding! Thank you Dan
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for taking the time to put out Your videos, I have been learning more about geology and prospecting for gold and other precious metals. I really enjoy Your way of teaching and thinking out of the box strategies. I look forward to hearing more from You. Thanks and May the Lord continue to prosper You!
Glad you like them! and thanks for the blessed wishes.
Thank you for upfront good information that's actually helpful and informative and well made content 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
" it's about the gold you find not the gold you miss " well said !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks. Hope you are well. Getting any prospecting done? I'm shut down for a while....
@@ChrisRalph Hopefully this week !!!!!!!
Great video, Chris! I've learned so much from you about metal detecting for gold by watching your videos. I am about to start reading your book "Fists Full of Gold". If it is anything like your videos, I expect I'll learn many more useful tips! Keep the great content coming!
I'll be continuing with content for a long time to come. Thanks for the kind words, I am sure you will enjoy the book.
thanks for the video Chris. I just got a gold monster 1000 and I am having a hard time using it. I am in the Folsom area and I prospect around mineral bar (Colfax), and the only thing I find is iron and aluminum foil. I do know that area is crazy populated and trashed, but many times when I am scanning bedrock I get hits/sounds and I find nothing. I typically use Auto-1, since Auto-2 seems just too sensitive.
First, that is an easily accessible and truly hammered area that been hit by everyone, including me. Join the Mother Lode Goldhounds out of Auburn, CA. This club will help you get access to much better areas more likely to still have gold around for you to detect.
Peter you have to get over gold to find.
I e been struggling with my gold monster also.
I don't get enough time with the machine in a regular basis to have it down yet.
I can find hot rocks all day everyday.
That's not what were after.
I have found everything but gold so far.
It always surprises me when I find a small 1/8" shard of screen wire from someone else's workings.
My area has been hammered but not everywhere.
I really enjoy all your videos. I would really like to see a video where you explain XFR and its uses in prospecting and mining. Will you ever do an XFR video?
XFR - (X ray Fluorescence) is not used by many prospectors because the cheapest units are around $30,000 US dollars. They are also not terribly sensitive to low levels of gold. I wrote about them in my book, and doubt I'll do a UA-cam video because so few folks are interested in them.
Nice explinations of how to use a metal detector
Glad it was helpful!
Nice video keep them coming
Surprised you liked it after reading your other comments.
Thanks for the great info. I'm days away from having your book delivered. The old mining claims my family owns are riddled with hot rocks, but I know from historical documents the claims produced both placer gold and veins of metal sulfides. Lead, silver, copper and gold are present in the veins. There's hundreds of blast pits as well as a 10 stamp mill on the property. I know there's gold here, I just need to find it.
Sounds great!
It’s hard to read your book when I can’t stop watching your Videos on UA-cam
With enough time anything can be done......
Very educational video .but very hard to use Gm1000 in my area due to much mineralized ground . very redish .
Sorry to hear that
Awesome stuff!
Glad you think so!
Nice video sir 👍❤️
Glad you think so!
Excellent info .. kinda like the modern version of Larry Sallee’s old V-Sat instructional video from the 90’s, I’m sure it’s gonna help a lot of people. I’d add if your in a hydraulic pit ignore the iron ID all together, I’ve found nuggets up there right next to nails and old boot tacks. I still use my V-Sat but was thinking of getting a Goldmonster 1000, but I had no idea you were locked into automatic ground balance all the time .. that would drive me nuts, are there any hacks to get around that? Thanks!
I have both of Larry's zip - zip books, but did not know there was also a video. No hacks to get around the automatic ground balance - I asked them not to do that when they were designing it, but they did not listen.
Here in south America I go crazy with the Goldmonster in some places hot rock's are plenty but good detector
some places the mineralization makes it really difficult.
Your too awesome Chris. Great video. I went out again today with my GM1000. Found 2 pieces one decent one and one small one. Wow the ground was HOT too. I think I was running on manual 3 and 4 the whole time. Great video thanks for all the info I also appreciate you bringing up examples for us dumb folks like the TV volume and stuff haha. Do you ever have any local in the field classes in the areas around placer, Plumas, and Nevada counties? I’d love to go and shake your hand one day it would be cool to chat. Thanks again Chris.
I have in the past, but the most recent was 7 or 8 years ago. However if I do any such thing in the future, I will let the viewers on my channel know well in advance so folks can make plans to attend.
@@ChrisRalph awesome! I can imagine you have been a busy man for years and really choose what you enjoy the most now. Are you still local to the CA mother load or have you settled in Nevada?
I've been settled in Nevada for close to 40 years.
@@ChrisRalph oh how cool! Never knew that. That’s why you buy and sell properties since that’s popular in Nevada? Since CA is so regulated? I am determined to find some way to turn gold into a part time or full time business… I’m pretty sure I can’t make money finding actual gold since I don’t have the cash for an actual mine but it sure would be lovely to do something I enjoy… I own a vegetation and code enforcement cleanup business in northern CA. I just can’t ever stop thinking of gold prospecting and taking way to much time off to look for gold haha
It would be great if they would come out with a Detector with a switch to go from VLF to PI.
They are far more different internally than you imagine. This is why one detector cannot just flip a switch between the two different designs.
Just switch out the controller and the coil on the same stick; it's a two in one!
With the new Gold Bug 2, could you remember the ground balance setting for the hot rocks and the soil then switch back and forth to check? My GB2 is older and doesn't have that easier capability, otherwise I would maybe go try that once just to see how that would work.
easier to use the discrimination function to test hot rocks.
@@ChrisRalph ya i guess thats true. Haha. Was just a thought
Sometime you dig up things that aren't gold but are still worth something. I found a triangle bell with the wand.
Thats true.
Hello Chris 🙋🏽♂️ what do you reckon is it good idea to prospect on top of hills in rivers, creeks that are running down the valley? After all that's where the gold starts it's journey doesn't it? Thank you 😊
Test, if you prospect the hills that are the sources. Most hills are not the sources, so just generally looking to hills is not a good plan.
Coil size matters as well
Yes, coil size matters.
What bothers me the most is 90% of places I've detected have trash and or bullets from people!
yep, and some have both loads of trash AND lots of hot rocks!
I love the gold monster But what if I'm in a big river bed trying to cover a lot of area what would be the best unit for trying to find small gold but covering a large area
There is no one detector that does everything perfectly. Big coils will cover more ground, but dont see the smallest gold. The larger coil on the GOld Monster will cover more ground, the small coil for the monster will see smaller gold but cover more ground. You decide which is more important to you.
lol ! so true . hard to turn it down !
Agreed - it is hard to turn it down!
the one guy showed me hold it in place turn the gm off then turn it on ground noise cancelled. was interesting to see. ,i found crap yesterday with my gm. thought minelab was gonna be at the amra outing at slash x cafe. ,no minelab was gonna check out a 6000. oh well. but was a good day. didnt go to the wash like i wanted to helped new people out to the claim. ,not gonna leave them there. but have a good day. great video boss
Thanks for helping those people out.
Iron ore is everywhere, I've seen creeks that were full of it, but no gold. Some rock are so full of iron that a magnet will pick them up.
The earths crust is 5% iron.
You need to learn to differentiate between the different pitches and tones of the sound. Gold and iron have similar sounds, but gold is a higher pitch.
Gold can be of any size or shape and found at any depth. Iron can also be of any size or shape and found at any depth. I can make a guess based on sound and be right 80 percent of the time, but if you think you are right 100% of the time, you are fooling yourself.
For me when my Gold Monster starts going back and forth from iron to gold. That’s where the operator makes a decision to dig or not. Me I did all signals…..
When the signal bounces back and forth, the detector is saying "I dont know"and you need to dig it.
@@ChrisRalph yes, that is the way I learned from Bill Southern. Thanks….
How do you get kimberlite and diamond authentication so you can sell them I'm in ohio and nobody will help me because its not commonly ever been found I've studied volcanic rocks for 20 years my grandfather was a geologist but he's passed and I can't get help I know exactly what I have I've been taught well but ohio doesn't have industry for such things and I have record breaking stones
I am sorry my friend, but I get so many requests every day for personal help, training, evaluation, etc. that I cannot fulfill all the requests. I have many, many commitments of my own.
Do some research locally, perhaps contact a nearby university, make some phone calls. I cannot be the person to help as I have just too much on my plate already.
I wish you the best of luck in your efforts.
Chris
I have enough to make a guy rich and haven't touched the surface I discovered a vent from a crytoexplosion event millions of years ago this will make world news man I just don't know who to trust and how to make it legal I'm a truck driver rock hounding is just my hobby I never made a living I've already reached out to osu odnr the whole 9 yards because I'm not a certified geology professor I'm stupid to them here
Gp3500 is still the best...hands down
No, you've not tried others and I have. The 3500 is good, but there are better.
Gold can only be found with us as the finest veins, enclosed in quartz. I assume the GM1000 won't detect anything. Many greetings from Karl.
Since I have no idea where you are located, I cannot say one way of another if the GM 1000 might detect some gold in your area.
@@ChrisRalph My area is in the foothills of the Eastern Alps in Europe. We mainly have metamorphic rocks such as crystalline slate, gneiss, mica, calcite and quartzite. Quartz chunks with super-thin gold veins are rarely found.
👍
Glad you enjoy the videos.
Anyone tried a golden retriever
Not really.
I used to swing a Whites Gold-master II. The tones are embedded in my mind. Was good to hear the noise again. Two ruptured and one bulged has placed me out of service. I probably need a wheel loader and trommel now.
I keep asking the detector makers to produce a vibrating headphone to market to those with hearing problems. No one listens.
What do you mean by gain
Gain on a metal detector is sensitivity. To increase gain is to increase sensitivity. However there are times when you don't want maximum sensitivity.
Thank you Ralph
Thank you Ralph
Thank you Ralph
Thank you Ralph
Boy, this video has alot of both electronic and verble pings, boings, beeps amd and what not. LOL.
And this is why new guys get frustrated with the hot rocks.
You need to quit looking at the numbers on your screen and start. Listening to the sound, the sounds the detector makes will tell you a lot more than the numbers will.
Again, you know less than you think you know. The 3500 has no screen to look at, so of course you don't look at screens.
@ChrisRalph and the gold bug also has no screen.....as I prefer...but the gp3500 still has the best of everything......
Actually the current version of the Gold Bug 2 does have a screen.
did you really have to talk for 15 min to say that if you get too many hot rocks you can turn the gain down?
I listed a bunch of other techniques as you well know.....
Hi can u sell to me one of u metal dictator secondhand please I can trust any one else because this day the are selling fake things I'm from Africa
Sorry, I do not sell metal detectors.