Shifting gears, 12 speed Volvo
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
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sharing with youtubers, driving modern heavy vehicles.Today I'm in an 2007 FM12 Volvo, fitted with Volvo's own electronically controlled 12 speed automatic/semi automatic clutchless gearbox.
I must admit I didn't like the Idea at first (I'm a roadranger man myself), but after spending a couple of days with this, I was hooked, real bit of trick gear, others European truck manufactures have similar concept's (likely sourced from ZF), HEAPS more drivable than the self shifting Roadranger, faster and smoother than the 'BENZ.
the first part of the video, one of the most 2007 video ive ever seen, that music, camera quality
I've driven one or two of those and I have to say I never thought I'd prefer it to the manual three over three with a splitter but I do. So easy to use, especially in built up areas.
The i-shift is a manual gearbox which is shifted automaticlly, so it has a clutch =) there are two versions now, single clutch and dual clutch, dualclutch version is magical, it feels almost like a variable or stepless with no losses in torqe :) sorry for my bad english..
That's right :)
That truck had a 13 litre, Euro 3 engine of 440hp. The company that owned it now uses the 11 litre Euro 5 engine of 450 hp, which actually pulls harder, although the engine brake doesn't work as well due to the smaller capacity engine. The Volvo I shift would have to be the best automated gearbox in production.
love the sounds of the braking & turbos.
I love how the transmission jump from 4th to 7th gear at 2:49
2:49
That engine sound😍😍
The mushy Allison does have it's place and I've had plenty of experience in them.
Downshifting, upshifting, skip shifting, full throttle, half throttle whatever you can think of, will always result in an as smooth change as you see on here.
You can nearly sit a can of coke on the dash board and not spill a drop during shifts (apart from accelaration).
As much as I like American gear, they are behind the eight ball compared to the Euro stuff electroniclly.
I STILL want a gear stick!! :)
Nice video. The engine sound while turning left and automatically shifting from 10th to 7th gear (at 01:57 min) is awesome...
This was the wagon I had until recently. I still miss the “MRUH” sound when it changed up a gear.
Love the sound of that turbo :D
Music and phone brought be back to the 90s
I love the ergonomics of the cab. Well thought out.
I do have to say the streets are A LOT smaller in Europe, so smaller trucks equals the size of our trucks and the roads here in America
I like how it uses the engine brake when it skips 1 or 2 gears on upshifts.
Much different than when i used to drive a Volvo FL10.
God that engine sounds beautiful!
Never really seen a right side Volvo before nice video Love the sound of the truck!
gday mate...Mark G here. i used to drive 1 of these,,very nice indeed,cheers.
This is some pretty cool stuff there with this semi-automatic shifter. It almost makes me wish sometimes that I could take one of these volvo trucks out on the highway for a short "spin" just to see what it can do.
i-shift is one of the best automatics you can have in a truck!
It seems that when Volvo developed the gearbox they wanted to get the truck to the highest speed with the fewest gear changes possible; this being the most economical way. They succeeded.
When changing up it will jump a number of shifts, dropping the revs to 1000RPM, this being the start of the torque band.
nice i'am kiwi living in sweden and drives a semi for a livin'. Happy trucking mate and be safe out there.
There is a difference between a metric Tonne and the US Ton. A US Ton is 2000 pounds as you have already stated. However what you don't know is that a metric Tonne (as used in Australia etc.) is 1000 Kilograms. Since 1 Kilogram = 2.204 pounds, a Metric Tonne is 2204 pounds. Hence the assertion of 88,000 pounds is absolutely correct as it accurately represents the load he was carrying both here and abroad. This is because a Tonne here is different to your Ton.
that's pretty cool. I had no idea big trucks could get an automoatic with that many gears.
i have a VOLVO FH, with i-shift too, and what i do is, in manual, pass from 7th to 10th, reaching the 2000RPM in each gear. great video anyway :)
fantastic, a hgv driver on 12th gear (on the motorway) driving with one hand holding a camera!!!
At least this time I wasn't drunk
OnlineBackupServices you are IDIOT!
David Guetta v the egg - love don't let me go, It was what was on the radio when I turned it on
Gracias por mostrar tu vehiculo aquí viéndolo en 2020 desde Veracruz México saludos
You can skip shift, on the dash board display there are little arrows that point up and down, 2 arrows up means you can skip 2 gears up, 3 arrows up, 3 gears up same for down shift. if you look at 3.25 you can see arrows changing accordingly
Spot on again, Generally I drive 1100 to 16/1700 no need to go any higher, you see me reving it out on the Video, thats just for show, Its not my normal style plenty of torque down low (1200)also.
These don't have SCR or adblue but I beleive the generation will, The 08 model Scania do,as well as the Japanese stuff.
The engine brake does that itself, I have no control over that, some say it's bad for crank, volvo don't seem the think so!It's remarkable how quick and smooth the skip shifts are.
@StackedDecks In this situation, it doesn't need 12 gears, however, loaded to maximum weight, in steep undulting terrian, sometimes 12 isn't enough to keep the motor in its optimun working range.
Thats why the most popular gearbox in Australia is an 18 speed
The two blinker lights show truck and trailer (one each), but rarely seem to work the way they are supposed to.
The bar lights around the tacho are guides, the green idicate where the motor operates and it most efficent, red is the nogo zone.
The lights around the speedo only come on with the cruise control and only one little bar will light showing where the cruise control has been set
If that is a volvo i shift box it will have a clutch which works off a electronically controlled hydraulic clutch booster. They are reliable box I work on a fleet of around 300 2005-2008 volvo fm12's! It is basically an electronically controlled manual box.
it's a common misunderstanding, what the yanks call one ton is 2,000 lbs, usually called the US short ton, the ISA ton, or the metric ton is equal to 1,000 kg
thanks for this demonstration. It was very interesting because I've never really seen this before. :)
correction all volvos with the semi auto gear boxes have a clutch it just the auto matic gear selector tht engages it every time it changes gear i had to change a clutch on one last week
a little too much but hey....its all good.had a bourbon myself and am enjoying the coolness after a storm.
You are right, I havent driven a twin stick, but If a chace to came up,i'll be there with bells whistles and camera
There are drivers out there that have never used a gearstick, thats scary to me.
Hey thanks for posting this video, I always wondered how the semi-autos worked.
Take care and drive safe!
Get in the car my man is a smashing out some tunes
@Engineer9736 Stick shifts can be chqnged to whatever gear the driver chooses,just because there are 12 gears there, you do not need them all the time,
Im not a european truck fan much, but it seems like those volvos such is this one are really reliable and useful.
The torque really tails off after 1600rpm so much that at 2000rpm the power output is as low as at 1250rpm. This is why people shift up at 1600rpm which is about max power to only go down to 1300rpm which around max torque hence max power for that engine speed. Modern Peterbuilt trucks seem to have a flat power output between 1200 and 1800rpm so missing a gear each shift is quickest.
Volvo FH16 Euro Truck Simulator2 !
the fastest way to shift is 4-7-9-10-11-12
+Ido Гуссейн thats in ETS2 for sure if you have 750hp
In ets2 you can only have a trailer loaded to 24-25 tons, how you shift depends stronly on how much you carry
@024reredrum , This model volvo came with 2 types of gearbox depending on customer requirementss
i have shown the 'I shift' here on this video, It has the ability to be fully automatic or manual, by saying manual, the driver controls what gear when. the gearbox does the rest.
The 14 speed I'm reffering to is the old school manual, you know, with a clutch pedal and you change gears with a stick.
Apparently the Volvo's built in america share at least 70% of the same parts as their european cousins (engines, cabs, axles, transmissions, interiors and some electrical components). The only difference between the U.S. Built and Euro Built ones are the axle configs, axle ratios and chassis.
@Sanders83 It is sequential, but if you want to block change, just press the button how many times you think it could handle, ultimately it ill up to it, to decide if it can do it
The Euro trucks are the same width as the American stuff and actually have higher mass limits, they have strict lenght limits, thats why you hardly see any bonnets
The blackbox is an option, most larger fleets get them but you do not have to
@shaned8845 they are not clutchless ,they have an air-over electric acctruator on the side of the gear box,which engages the cluch every time you push up on the stick.Did you also know they have 4 reverse gears.they are still the same box ,but air and electrics come in to play.
Men that truck have all the gadgets in there.
it needs 8 guears to reach interesting, good video.
thank you for this, i need this for my ets2 driving :)
I'd love to see a video if it auto shifting WITH OUT being in economy mode, full power lets see how she does! Great vid.
You must have been driving in town I take it only only 118kms covered over an approxiamate 3 hour period. They are certainly making them simpler to drive now, although I would hate to pay for a gearbox rebuild.
Nice truck.
Love the Volvos.
Wow 12years video 😁😁
@drknockers1 Yes I know, my description is poor, I know it has a clutch, just no clutch pedal, similar to the Benz Actross
Wasn't sure if it was a 12 or 13 liter, thanks
looks cozy!..REMEMBER..NEVER CUT OFF A DRUCK DRIVER..SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO GET UP TO SPEED
@the124Lscania. . . anything up to 6th, if it's too higher gear it will beep at you and instruct you to change down
@desde714 Driving like that will definitely use more fuel, not because it's in manual, but because of the way its driven, the main thing I was showing was how much quicker it was getting to speed when in auto
I think I know why it was faster to 60Kph in auto mode. If you watch it is starting in 4th went 4,7,9,11 gears. When you did it manually you started in 3rd and it went 3 to 11 in sequence. with an empty trailer I would normally skip shift in my truck. Peak torque on my 12.7L Detroit is at at 1200RPM. Try hitting the shift button twice or three times to see if it will skip gears, to keep you in the 1000-1300 RPM range.
All the "power" mode does is hold the gear a little longer on upshift, It doesn't increase the power, just revs 200 rpm more, that would make stuff all difference in accleration
Not my normal driving style, have a nice day, thanks for the view
Some one has said it is David Guetta - love dont let me go.
It was what was on the radio at the time
I have a 2007 9 speed Volvo (8 if you want to call it that) and love the truck but hate my gears. My last two gears will often get stuck when trying to move one up forcing me to have to bring the gear back to neutral and losing rpms. I have not encountered this problem on other trucks I've driven but hear this is common on Volvos. I'd like to try an automatic.
You're getting a little mixed up there, Ricardo. A "short" ton is 2000lbs, a Metric tonne is 1000kg = 2204.62lbs, An Imperial or "long" ton = 2240lbs.
Dayum...... that's pretty nice for a truck
does this truck come with extra safety features that allow you to drive it whilst pointing a video camera at the dash?
I'm sorry if you felt it as an electronic backhand we do put it in pounds on the paperwork we dont use tonnage too much around here Im sorry we are too old fashion around here that we do not use metric measurements every country is a little different I'm not trying to act superior or anything I just know what I am taught I am here in the US of A so as long as I am here I think I will be ok 2k lbs is the Department of Transportation standard for a ton so thats how I figure it. Again Sorry
AHH.. I figured it must allow you to skip.. would be kinda stupid if it didn't.
I like your truck thou.. Wish we had more auto's here. The true manual trans are faster or at least "SEEM" fater, but I would gladly trade a little speed for less work... most of the time. Especially if I drove in the city more.
I will be going back out on the road again next week with a new company. I will be driving a Volvo VN780 with a strait 10 Eaton, or Super 10.
Thanks for posting your video.. it was cool.
i see the blinker lights on the dash..... why is there 2 sets of blinker lights on the dash??
I like it the show like this videokat and beautiful the inside of the volvo i love it it beside scania the best lorry. They complained about the automata once by today already sure more reliable Latvian.
I like the turbo gauge beside the tacho! FULL PULLL!! lol
why are there two turn signal indicators per side(left and right) on the dash? the big and small one.
Yep. .
Even If I replicated the computers shift pattern, I still won't be as quick.
I Also skip shift, With out going past the "green" zone with a LOADED trailer. (level ground), move off in 3 go 5, 7 9 10 11 12.
What I have put on here is NOT my normal style by any means
If you look at 3:15 mark, next to the "m" box along the bottom line, It advises you how many gears to go up OR down if you watch carefully,3 arrows pointing up means it will allow you 3 clicks(gears), this was a demo
If you are referring to a self shifting roadranger, Volvo's are light years ahead
40 tonnes (metric), not tons. That was filmed some years ago before the weigh bridge was put in, we are lucky to gross around 31 tonnes (31,000Kg) most times. I`ve worked there for about five years and the heaviest gross I`ve pulled out of that yard is a bit over 37 tonnes. That was a 440hp 12.8 litre euro 3 engine, we now run 450hp 10.8 litre euro 5 engines and they pull harder.
It was what was on the Radio at the time.
BTW, The engine has a constant maximum power of 440hp from 1400 or 1450 up to 1800rpm, so apart from using the engine brake, it's not useful to go over 1800rpm.
Is this truck equipped with an SCR system and an AdBlue tank?
To keep the motor in its torque band, most deisels only have around 1000 rpm range to work with
Lucky Guy where you working at, that you can do this movie...I'm drivin a DAF 95XF, but i never would have the time for making a movie....
I like the boost guage, simple.
@urbex2007 the 440 is a 13 litre 6 cylinder 24v
woohh u must take extra care driving that while filming!
Heavier loads, plus moving from a standstill going up hill, rarely needs first gear but in soft boggy condidtions it becomes usefull
Not a surprise ; exactely the same as ETS2 -.-
What do you mean?
it's a simulator
No it's not. ETS2 is more of an arcade game than a simulator.
That's right, but it is the most "simulator-like" game out there concerning to trucks
In ETS we dont get modes.
Gearbox killer☝️
Firstly, i know nothing about trucks so be kind. Just wondering when the camera was on the pedals....is that pretty much foot to the floor the whole time?
@1100HondaCB The Auto's make it a lot easier, to the point of making it boring.
Your right about the engine
@jazar It was what was on the RADIO when I turned on the ignition, not my taste in music AT ALL
hey, in that acceleration test with empty trailer you reached 60 km/h in approx 20 sec with full auto and eco. When you went manual and blew the fuel consumption sky high it took you about 22 sec, it didn't go any faster. Also, you should know that the tourqe is about the same between 1000~1500 rpm. Look at the speedometer when full auto pulls the truck from 1000 all the way up to 1700 rpm, it flys and the acceleration is the same regardless of the rpm.
what model is this Volvo?my father drive's a VolVo FH12 440 euro 5 manual gear.
These don't have adblue (lucky).
We don't need tacho's here, only some companys use them by choice.
The engine brake comes automatically,especially when skipping up thru gears,
Moving off from a standing start uphill & manouvering
if the truck starts off fine (and slow) starting in fourth gear, what are the other first 3 gears for? 1st gear for 1.5 km/h,,, 2nd gear for 2.5km/h? so on?
I have a full HGV licence and can drive an artic as well as a rigid. I've always been one for a good old clutch and gear lever, but the auto box must make life a bit easier. By the way, it the engine a 12 liter straight six?
@mikey380sx yes more or less, you have to watch carefully, but I do make adjustments and you can see my boot move up and down
Rev till the 9k rpm, breh. At 5-6k you will hear a louder engine sound, that means that VTEC is activated and ready to go, y0!
@mitchellcorp I know, It has a clutch, just no clutch pedal, same as the Benz.
I've used a bad description.