Self ID was passed in Australia under stealth, no discussion, with the first State, Victoria having it passed during Covid. It’s now in every state. Australia has become the most captured country with no sex based rights.
Wow. The US finally got its sanity back and it was literally the number 1 issue that decided the election. Majority of america is against trans. It's nonsense.
Well done, For Women Scotland, for bringing this action in spite of all the barriers put in your way. We thank you for pushing on with this. We know you won't give up, and neither will the rest of us.
The funniest thing is that very recently the Scottish Govt put out 'guidance' to councils etc that they should keep data on 24 genders. And then on Tuesday their KC stated that sex and gender are the same, they're 'interchangeable' and that there are only TWO!!! And they talk about "becoming the sex of their gender" which is quite nonsensical!
Living 'as a woman' for 5 mins or 5 years does not make them a woman. Having a GRC Does not make them a woman and that law needs changing. Being selective about which men pass or have a fetish or a GRC confuses matters cos Sex Matters!
@ I think it needs someone who has loads of followers on FB or X to get it started (which I don’t) I have one currently running for electoral reform and it only has 35 signatures😞
What would the petition say? Change the law? That's what the Supreme Court case was all about! It's been and gone, we're just waiting for the verdict. If it doesn't go our way then lots of people will be up in arms and will sign a petition. But there's no point right now.
I suggest the Trans movement is a misogynistic movement. Trans men are eroding women’s identity and safety, not to mention eroding the differences for impressionable children , who are being led to the trough of mental health confusion in later life. This upends our societal structure!
Trans ideology is open misogyny. Throughout history men have tried to claim women's bodies, this is just the current manifestation. Predatory men are pretending to be trans in order to attack women. If trans women really were women with the lived experience of being in a body that's female they would understand that and this would not be an issue.
If you don't even know that a male to female is a trans woman and a female to male is a trans man, then you literally have no idea what you're talking about. You don't know any trans people, you just watch sensationalist news shows designed to make you afraid. I swear to god, people who don't know Jack are making all the rules for everyone else in today's world, since there are so many uneducated people with big opinions spouting nonsense from rooftops. You need to get a sense of the real world outside your bubble. Trans people have always existed, will always exist, and you denying that is why so many trans kids take their lives, including female (sex) born trans men.
@@MetalGearsOfThought why aren't 'trans'people campaigning for their own spaces? Why do those men want access to female spaces? I think that's very telling.
Because many or most of them are misogynists. The ones who are not are brainwashed, gullible, uneducated/ignorant, or just plain stupid. Or a combination of the aforementioned.
The women's movement was centered on ensuring that women would not have to sacrifice their needs, ambitions, or well-being to conform to patriarchal structures. Yet today, some argue that these hard-fought principles are being compromised when women are expected to step aside for men presenting as women.
Whose decision was it to allow birth certificates to be retrospectively changed? An official record which can be amended years later, is not an official record at all.
That was done by Tony Blair and David Lammy in 2004 in the Gender Recognition Act. And you're right, a birth certificate should only be changed if they got the sex wrong at birth, not for any 'identity' reasons. People have died because hospitals have treated people as the wrong sex, and the stupid patient hasn't put them right. Eg a patient with severe abdominal pain in ER was treated as an obese man and then suddenly had a baby, which didn't survive.
Blame it on Tony Blair and David Lammy, they pushed it through, mainly because Catholic TB didn't want same sex marriages. Questioned on the plight of wives whose husband might decide he's a woman DL just said they have a choice, no one is forcing them to transition and they will only do it after discussion with their wives. What an ignoramus!
If the supreme Court doesn't get this right for all women and girls first(yes , first ) they will no longer be supreme in many peoples eyes and would massively loose respect from many...let's hope they think long and hard about this.
It was scary to hear some of the questions the judges were asking! One kept getting her sexes and genders muddled up, asking about natal women becoming women....
@@suzannelipscombe589 The problem is that the Supreme Court isn't ruling on what is sensible, or what the vast majority of people want. They're ruling on what various laws say and mean, and how they impact on other laws.
Birth certificates should not be changed. They are historical records. There should be a new form called a Birth Record Amendment that records *subsequent* data such as a name change or “gender” designation that is appended to that original, unchanged birth certificate.
I am hereby coming out as a transvestite trans butch lesbian. This means I am a bloke who claims to be a woman but crossdresses as a man, prefers women, and carries on like a bloke. I am of course having NO operations, but I will be joining one or two local women's teams in sports which I really didn't get very far with as a, um, whatsit, er, cis man.
And your pronouns are ? 😂😅😂.. No need.. I'd be absolutely lost and sitting in the corner rocking to and fro repeating peanuts from my mouth Well done for implementing that list .. Not that I'd ever be able to make head nor tail from it . 😂 ❤
A birth certificate is historical and should never be changed. Anyone who wants to be recognised as a different sex should have a new form to fill out just like a person who wants to change their name when they get married.
I am a woman. I have xx chromosomes. If you do not have xx chromosomes you are not a woman. Even if you hormonally or surgically transition. Your chromosomes do not change.
@@Sharetheroad3333 My point is, my reality is rooted in biology. I have no question or doubt about gender. Those who do, are pushing for us all to have gender dysphoria by denying biological reality and making gender a psychological condition.
No one should be able to change anything on their birth certificate it is a document that states the facts of your birth, date you were born, your parents and what sex you were born, ie whether you were born with a vagina or penis, these facts can not be changed just because of your state of mind. You can call yourself whatever you want, wear what you like but you can not change your date of birth, parentage so why should you to change the sex you were born as on a legal document which states facts. Why can't they jusy change their ndme through deed pole to reflect who they think they are because no matter what you do you can not change your biological sex because you van not change the Chromosomes you were born with even if you can turn your penis inside out to make an assimilation of a vagina or have a cosmetic penis added to your body A woman is a woman and a man is a man and that can never be changed
The Gender Recognition Act (GRA), 2004, HAS TO BE REPEALED. Can this even be done without our escaping from the European Convention of Human Rights (ECHR)? At the moment the Gender Recognition Act (GRA), and the Equality Act (2010) contradict each other.😖
The supreme court can only confirm what we know from science, it cannot have freedom to decide this. If it could, it could rule that unicorns exist. I hope they recognise this in their ruling. The supreme court has no jurisdiction to pronounce against reality, it has an absolute duty to acknowledge reality.
The Supreme Court are ruling on what existing laws say and mean and how they interact. Unfortunately they're not going to be looking at what is sensible.
But why DO so many women go along with it? I can't fathom it. Do they think that we're just making up the loss of rights? Or that 'being kind' to fetishy men is the right thing to do? Why do women's organisations, that exist to educate and empower women and girls include men in the category of women? UNWomen I'm thinking of you and your talk of 'all women', diversity and 'being inclusive'. Why would you?? One of the answers is that Biden is a big funder of the UN and they have imposed their ideals on them in exchange for money. So everyone has to go along with it. In Scotland only refuges that admit men get govt funding so most go along with it for the money and jobs.
This is common sense over absurd ideology. The fact that some authorities need s court judgement to ratify this reality defies belief but, these are the days we are living through under activist led socialism.
I thought the case was utterly ridiculous. However, considering the nonsense Starmer and his clown show are likely to bring in at some point, the Scottish government-through their sheer stupidity in pursuing such cases and getting humiliated all the way to the Supreme Court-has exposed itself as utterly incompetent. Ironically, they’ve inadvertently created a judgment that will serve as a benchmark, making it far harder for future idiocy from Starmer to be imposed.
I am pleased with the Courts decision. I still care how people are treated despite their self identification, but it is fair to have single sex spaces.
I have no idea why Fioana is yelling that there is some kind of win. Its NOT decided yet. She strikes me as not very bright and why doesnt she look her guest in the eye and engage with her? its so rude.
BUY YOURSELF AN 18TH CENTURY DICTIONARY AND THEN YOU MIGHT UNDERSTAND LANGUAGE AND THE USE OF , INSTEAD OF ARGUING ABOUT MEANING AND INTERPRETATION.... SIMPLE
Awesome Scotland!!! Normal people fighting this ridiculousness
I am a woman and l have a certificate to prove it, it's called a birth certificate
That's not relevant at all.
Well said! X
Yes but dear now a days women gives birth to atleast twenty different gender I will have you known ( speaking from mentally ill Asylum)
Women don't need pieces of paper to prove we're women. Only men need pieces of paper to 'prove' they're women.
If a man gets a GRC (gender reassignment certificate) he can change the sex on his birth certificate.
Can't change sex, not even if you feel like it and not with a piece of paper. Insulting to both sexes.
Fiona you’re a force! Bravo!
Self ID was passed in Australia under stealth, no discussion, with the first State, Victoria having it passed during Covid. It’s now in every state. Australia has become the most captured country with no sex based rights.
Wow. The US finally got its sanity back and it was literally the number 1 issue that decided the election. Majority of america is against trans. It's nonsense.
I know 😢
Well done, For Women Scotland, for bringing this action in spite of all the barriers put in your way. We thank you for pushing on with this. We know you won't give up, and neither will the rest of us.
Conflating the word SEX with the concept of GENDER has been one of the Biggest CONS in recently legislative, legal and social history.
The funniest thing is that very recently the Scottish Govt put out 'guidance' to councils etc that they should keep data on 24 genders. And then on Tuesday their KC stated that sex and gender are the same, they're 'interchangeable' and that there are only TWO!!! And they talk about "becoming the sex of their gender" which is quite nonsensical!
Living 'as a woman' for 5 mins or 5 years does not make them a woman. Having a GRC Does not make them a woman and that law needs changing. Being selective about which men pass or have a fetish or a GRC confuses matters cos Sex Matters!
We need a petition to assert biological sex in our country 👍
Put it forward and I will sign
@ I think it needs someone who has loads of followers on FB or X to get it started (which I don’t)
I have one currently running for electoral reform and it only has 35 signatures😞
What would the petition say? Change the law? That's what the Supreme Court case was all about! It's been and gone, we're just waiting for the verdict. If it doesn't go our way then lots of people will be up in arms and will sign a petition. But there's no point right now.
Thanks for keeping on keeping on Fiona.
I suggest the Trans movement is a misogynistic movement. Trans men are eroding women’s identity and safety, not to mention eroding the differences for impressionable children , who are being led to the trough of mental health confusion in later life. This upends our societal structure!
Trans ideology is open misogyny. Throughout history men have tried to claim women's bodies, this is just the current manifestation. Predatory men are pretending to be trans in order to attack women. If trans women really were women with the lived experience of being in a body that's female they would understand that and this would not be an issue.
If you don't even know that a male to female is a trans woman and a female to male is a trans man, then you literally have no idea what you're talking about. You don't know any trans people, you just watch sensationalist news shows designed to make you afraid. I swear to god, people who don't know Jack are making all the rules for everyone else in today's world, since there are so many uneducated people with big opinions spouting nonsense from rooftops. You need to get a sense of the real world outside your bubble. Trans people have always existed, will always exist, and you denying that is why so many trans kids take their lives, including female (sex) born trans men.
It really is destructive to the social fabric
I suggest we wouldn't even be having this conversation, were it not for contemporary Feminism.
@@MetalGearsOfThought why aren't 'trans'people campaigning for their own spaces? Why do those men want access to female spaces? I think that's very telling.
And to think that so many women have colluded with this nonsense. Biological sex we do not get to choose. Get over it.
It shouldnt have even needed a supreme court to tell us that!!!
Why is it that we are expected to respect their words to avoid upsetting them, while we accept the labels they assign to us to spare their feelings?
Because many or most of them are misogynists. The ones who are not are brainwashed, gullible, uneducated/ignorant, or just plain stupid. Or a combination of the aforementioned.
Thank you for all the hard work.
Finally!!!! Thank goodness, truth prevails!!
🙏🤞🏻🙏🙏🙏🙏🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻 the ruling reflects biological logic.
The women's movement was centered on ensuring that women would not have to sacrifice their needs, ambitions, or well-being to conform to patriarchal structures. Yet today, some argue that these hard-fought principles are being compromised when women are expected to step aside for men presenting as women.
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Whose decision was it to allow birth certificates to be retrospectively changed? An official record which can be amended years later, is not an official record at all.
That was done by Tony Blair and David Lammy in 2004 in the Gender Recognition Act. And you're right, a birth certificate should only be changed if they got the sex wrong at birth, not for any 'identity' reasons. People have died because hospitals have treated people as the wrong sex, and the stupid patient hasn't put them right. Eg a patient with severe abdominal pain in ER was treated as an obese man and then suddenly had a baby, which didn't survive.
Needing a hashing out in court to be able to recognize and speak straight facts.
The fact that it had to get this far is a condemnation of the legal profession.
Blame it on Tony Blair and David Lammy, they pushed it through, mainly because Catholic TB didn't want same sex marriages. Questioned on the plight of wives whose husband might decide he's a woman DL just said they have a choice, no one is forcing them to transition and they will only do it after discussion with their wives. What an ignoramus!
@9:00 she's not only doing 'great things for women and girls' she and sex matters are doing great things for men and boys too.
thanks for this.
I'm still worried about the judgment.
me too, its terrifying to think about what might happen.
If the supreme Court doesn't get this right for all women and girls first(yes , first ) they will no longer be supreme in many peoples eyes and would massively loose respect from many...let's hope they think long and hard about this.
It was scary to hear some of the questions the judges were asking! One kept getting her sexes and genders muddled up, asking about natal women becoming women....
@@suzannelipscombe589 The problem is that the Supreme Court isn't ruling on what is sensible, or what the vast majority of people want. They're ruling on what various laws say and mean, and how they impact on other laws.
Well done Scotland 👏
And spot on Alex
Birth certificates should not be changed. They are historical records. There should be a new form called a Birth Record Amendment that records *subsequent* data such as a name change or “gender” designation that is appended to that original, unchanged birth certificate.
🏴❤Alex
I am hereby coming out as a transvestite trans butch lesbian. This means I am a bloke who claims to be a woman but crossdresses as a man, prefers women, and carries on like a bloke. I am of course having NO operations, but I will be joining one or two local women's teams in sports which I really didn't get very far with as a, um, whatsit, er, cis man.
And your pronouns are ? 😂😅😂..
No need..
I'd be absolutely lost and sitting in the corner rocking to and fro repeating peanuts from my mouth
Well done for implementing that list ..
Not that I'd ever be able to make head nor tail from it . 😂 ❤
@@Leoviliti1 Oh, cripes! I'd forgotten about the pronoun thing! Oops!
@@hippophile 😂🤣😅😀👍🏻💐
Something is wrong in the world when what a woman is needs to be defined by the Supreme Court. A 5 year old child can tell one instantly.
A birth certificate is historical and should never be changed. Anyone who wants to be recognised as a different sex should have a new form to fill out just like a person who wants to change their name when they get married.
No certificates. No changes. Trans women are men. Get over it.
I am a woman. I have xx chromosomes. If you do not have xx chromosomes you are not a woman. Even if you hormonally or surgically transition. Your chromosomes do not change.
👍🎯 EXCACTLY! I don't get it 😢 makes no sense🤯
Alex: This ruling is great news.
Fiona: There hasn't been a ruling yet.
people who define themselves by what THEY are and how people should treat THEM over and above how they treat others are narcissistic!
A lot in the gay community have been worried about the influence of Trans activists on their world.
And we need court to tell us? Modern society is lost
I’m Scottish and this is absolutely nonsensical! And why aren’t people bothered about what men are defined as 🤔
Finally some common sense 😊
I don't have gender dysphoria. Why am I compelled to acquiesce and deny biology?
@@unitysprings3631 what is your point
@@unitysprings3631 what is your point?
@@Sharetheroad3333 My point is, my reality is rooted in biology. I have no question or doubt about gender. Those who do, are pushing for us all to have gender dysphoria by denying biological reality and making gender a psychological condition.
Gaslighted rather than compelled I hope you mean
@suzannelipscombe589 That works too Suzanne. It's bonkers.
No one should be able to change anything on their birth certificate it is a document that states the facts of your birth, date you were born, your parents and what sex you were born, ie whether you were born with a vagina or penis, these facts can not be changed just because of your state of mind.
You can call yourself whatever you want, wear what you like but you can not change your date of birth, parentage so why should you to change the sex you were born as on a legal document which states facts.
Why can't they jusy change their ndme through deed pole to reflect who they think they are because no matter what you do you can not change your biological sex because you van not change the Chromosomes you were born with even if you can turn your penis inside out to make an assimilation of a vagina or have a cosmetic penis added to your body
A woman is a woman and a man is a man and that can never be changed
I just don't understand😢🤯🤯🤯 how is it possible!??
The Gender Recognition Act (GRA), 2004, HAS TO BE REPEALED. Can this even be done without our escaping from the European Convention of Human Rights (ECHR)?
At the moment the Gender Recognition Act (GRA), and the Equality Act (2010) contradict each other.😖
Repeal, then change the laws.
🤯 there's only 2!! ♀️♂️ the world is mad!😩🤣🤣🤣🤣
Aren’t fetishes recognised as being an exclusively male predilection?
I don't think they are. It's just more rare in females.
It must be the biggest debate since Adam and Eve
SPECIES MAN ... COMPRISES OF MAN AND WOMB MAN .... WHATS SO BLOODY DIFFICULT 😕
A woman has a womb. The name woman comes from womb man.A woman is life. What is a man??????
The supreme court can only confirm what we know from science, it cannot have freedom to decide this. If it could, it could rule that unicorns exist. I hope they recognise this in their ruling. The supreme court has no jurisdiction to pronounce against reality, it has an absolute duty to acknowledge reality.
The Supreme Court are ruling on what existing laws say and mean and how they interact. Unfortunately they're not going to be looking at what is sensible.
The Law of Nature is supreme
Women need to wake up and see how one-sided this is. It is all focused on men wanting into women spaces, changing terminology that women specific.
Do you think that there aren't men who need to wake up to what's going on?
@lornocford6482 I'm talking about women like AOC who are fighting to allow it to happen
But why DO so many women go along with it? I can't fathom it. Do they think that we're just making up the loss of rights? Or that 'being kind' to fetishy men is the right thing to do? Why do women's organisations, that exist to educate and empower women and girls include men in the category of women? UNWomen I'm thinking of you and your talk of 'all women', diversity and 'being inclusive'. Why would you?? One of the answers is that Biden is a big funder of the UN and they have imposed their ideals on them in exchange for money. So everyone has to go along with it. In Scotland only refuges that admit men get govt funding so most go along with it for the money and jobs.
Yes but some only wake up when they are directly affected 😢
This is common sense over absurd ideology.
The fact that some authorities need s court judgement to ratify this reality defies belief but, these are the days we are living through under activist led socialism.
Bravo!❤
I would call it political incorrectness.....
What about giggle vs tickle?
Sal is taking the case to the next level and rightly so.
I might have the mind police after me with that one!!
That's in Australia. They're talking about UK law.
It is femphobic to say it isn't biological.
I thought the case was utterly ridiculous. However, considering the nonsense Starmer and his clown show are likely to bring in at some point, the Scottish government-through their sheer stupidity in pursuing such cases and getting humiliated all the way to the Supreme Court-has exposed itself as utterly incompetent. Ironically, they’ve inadvertently created a judgment that will serve as a benchmark, making it far harder for future idiocy from Starmer to be imposed.
Court to decide? I thought it was a biologist's job.
Right😂😂😂🤯wtf
Go Scottie’s 👏👍😄
I'm surprised. Nevetheless, it doesn't sound like it goes far enough.
A judge is no more a biologist, than an ex-lawyer is a prime minister.
Why should someone wearing a false wig be qualified to decide which biological facts are truly facts
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I am pleased with the Courts decision. I still care how people are treated despite their self identification, but it is fair to have single sex spaces.
There is NO court decision and there won't be until the spring.
Please God let the court decide on reality and then perhaps this nonsense can be brought under control.
So courts decide if science is science? Not…. science?
THEY ARE NOT WOMEN it’s simple im sorry but thats biology.
Don't be sorry
Never be sorry for telling the truth
I have no idea why Fioana is yelling that there is some kind of win.
Its NOT decided yet. She strikes me as not very bright and why doesnt she look her guest in the eye and engage with her? its so rude.
Femininity in biological males and masculinity in biological females Transsexuality genuine cases extremely rare
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Why waste Court time on this issues? Midwives used to decide this at birth, alledgly.
Yes but now some people want to change it for various reasons so someone has to sort it out.
BUY YOURSELF AN 18TH CENTURY DICTIONARY AND THEN YOU MIGHT UNDERSTAND LANGUAGE AND THE USE OF , INSTEAD OF ARGUING ABOUT MEANING AND INTERPRETATION.... SIMPLE
Chaucer? 😂
So if I have a tiger and on the documents it's stated that's a dog... can I walk around the city with the -tiger- dog on a leash?
Thankyou for getting me laughing with this nutty subject😊
😂😂😂😂lol
Court has juristiction,this is biology,we just need to make officials observe basic biology
mutated man ≠ woman
thank you. Well said.
Thank you👍🎯 i don't understand them🤯🤯🤯
REMOVE MEN FROM LAWMAK8NG WHO FORCE THIS ABUSE N RAPECULTURE ON WOMEN!
👗👗 Does anyone know if this organization (LG:::) has ever held a private party for children to attend?
What a waste of money. That is general knowledge ffs