to be more specific... for the ultimate corgan sound... just use what he used for Siamese Dream. Marshall JCM800 with KT88 tubes, all EQ rolled to full gain on full, use the post gain as volume... Fender Strat with Lace Sensor pickups with pickup switch set to position 2 (on a 5 way) high tone rolled to 3 and low tone rolled to 8. Fender Blender is a good octave/distortion box. Fuzzface. There ya go.
Really wish Billy would have embraced the fact the he Is Smashing Pumpkins, rather than deciding he needed to Become Radiohead. It all went to Hell after (and during) Mellon Collie.
this version is kickin for real... : ) at the virgin festival billy said " this next one is a song i wrote during a period i was taking a lot of mushrooms. So if you're on mushrooms, this will sound good to you, and if you're not on em it will too." ha i always thought this was for sure one of if not the trippiest tune the pumpkins have....... 93 versions have so much more energy though, billy basically screaming every line, thats how i like my starla........... : )
LOVE that bell sharp crisp tone of his guitar in the beginning. Fender on Fender...? This song brings back so many memories. Ahhh... Summer days of no responsibilities, baked out of my skull listening to Pisces Iscariot with friends long lost through the slipstream of existence. Man, getting old is fucked... but memories are precisely that.
The end part = One of the coolest things ever. I'd give anything to have gone to their concerts back then... Though they're still AMAZING live today, I saw them only three weeks ago, it totally blew me away!!! The crowd surfers are funny, I don't really see that happen these days much anymore, at least not to that extent. Through this live performance you can see that everyone was a lot more relaxed back then...
it's the b-side to the gish version of i am one. (not worth asking was the b-side to the origonal version). it was later released on pisces iscariot, which is a proper release of unproperly released songs. a compilation if you will. not a "real" album.
I agree with nirvanarugby...I really haven't heard any of SP's new stuff and I don't think I want to so not to ruin the SP I grew up with... Billy in a dress and all!!! I think I've seen SP about 10 times... best was at a club called the Ritz in Phoenix sometime in the 90's. Viva SP and Viva Morrissey!!!
Don't forget the various pre-amps that he has used during various times. Gish: ADA MP-1 Siamese Dream : Marshall JMP-1 & Mesa-Boogie Tri-Axis. I'm not certain but the Mesa may have only come along for touring. Various changes after that.
Amazing song..how I wish I could go back to 1991 to 1994 and go to these awesome gigs the pumpkins put on.. not as good these days live unfortunatley :(
@McLovin666ll You telling me not to respond to this message is obviously going to make me want to reply more. First off, it's highly fashionable these days for people to slam a band for sounding like shit and then claim that they admire the band or are a fan of the band isn't it? If you like a band and the music they've put out you realize that when playing it night after night live the song's solos can take on certain changes. Saying it's the "worst solo ever" is just plain ignorant.
@BLURCEG he's human like everyone else. people forget that when you become a celebrity. they only want from you what you did originally that got you known or famous.. if you want to change or to do anything else youre automatically a sell-out.. which is ridiculous.. you try playing the same type of songs/songs & music style for the rest of your life.. it gets boring.. no one can consistantly write awesome songs of the same style forever..
@BLURCEG Dude, He's one of the most talented songwriters of my generation, and he highly messed up with the feelings of millions of people around the world with his art. I don't know him, I don't know if he's an asshole, and I don't care. In fact, he can be what he wants, because he's Mr Billy Fucking Corgan, we owe him for all the amazing work he has done. Amazingly talented people like him are not common person, they have special license to be whatever they want.
@BLURCEG.. ive always said that.. hes not my friend but being under a magnifying glass for so long must skew a personality quite a bit. like when it was printed that he made osbournes wife sick and every one was freakin out that she hated him or whatever.. later she stated that she meant she literally caught his cold ^.^ people r stupid gossipers rnt they? he was my first crush when i was 7 years old and ive never believed all the crap
@stoolet I don't care how many times you've seen them we've already talked about it.... The truth is Billy loves to confuse people! I'm not saying he never did drugs but the one thing I can say is that he would not have done them during Siamese Dream sessions because he cared way too much about that record.
You have to understand Billy is an artist and you can't stay in the same place emotionally, over the years you grow and you change, it's just part of life. It would be very boring as an artist to write the same style songs for twenty years and if Billy is anything like me my life depends on growth and change both musically and spiritually or I will die.
Sorry to add this in also, if you listen closely you can hear the octave pedal tracking bad in a couple of parts. It makes an odd "warbling" kind of sound where the pitch shifts back and forth from the input octave to the pedal produced shifted octave. Thats why I figured its probably the Fender Blender. But it does make a nice chimey doubled kind of sound.
a long time ago, for my English class, I had to present a song I like to my classmates & teacher, I choose that one. hehe, you guys can imagine their facial expression! aaaah! good times!
I totally disagree. Smashing Pumpkins has always been all about Billy. We saw how vital Jimmy was though, once he was gone. But, Darcy and James Iha were always disposable. You do know that Billy very often played their part in the recorded album versions, don't you?
I totally disagree. Smashing Pumpkins has always been all about Billy. We saw how vital Jimmy was though, once he was gone. But, Darcy and James Iha were always disposable. You do know that Billy very often played their part in the recorded album versions, don't you?
It's hard to discern exactly effect it could be, but the chime is most likely from a Fender Blender octave/Fuzz pedal. Corgan used that effect a good bit. It basically shifts the octave 1 step higher and also adds the fuzz effect. Nice pedal, originals are kind of hard to come by though.
His sound can be achieved through fuzz pedals octaves and some reverb. but mostly fuzz. lotta fuzz distortion and old amps like vintage vox or something like that I recomend you buy the Fender octave fuzz stop box. its all you'll really need
@tommytentiming Oh no! James Iha isn't there anymore! The guy that hardly contributed to the band is gone! What a travesty! The only other guy that contributed to the band other than Billy, was Jimmy. He was the only loss to the band.
What happened to Billy Corgan!? Smashing Pumpkins were the best band in the world at this time. He was never able to maintain or recapture this vibe. Everything after Siamese Dream is garbage. Newest CD is unlistenable trash.
love the music, just wish he'd grow out his hair. he doesn't look right with his big egg head. Its all white and round you just want to punch his big head. if he's going bald just throw some propecia on it or something.
i was there 11/8 in greensboro, They played This very Awsome, and I also enjoyed "set the ray to jerry" They were so good, I also liked how the crowd was, So many tru fans, seemed like everyone knew every word allmost.
Really? He wears dresses all the time...machina had bell skirts and zeigeist has the silver multi-tiered skirt.. although. i suppose this is really a lot more of a woman's dresss..
Dimebag Darrell is probably the best 90s GUITARIST, but his song writing is crap next to Billy's. And Billy is an awesome guitarist. And classical music knows no time limitations!
Billy and the Pumkins prove they are on another level. Seeing the Pumpkins live a few times was some of the best times I've ever had. It's like The Velvet Underground and the Doors had a baby and that baby sweated pure MDMA and musical orgasms through it's pores.
This was about the last point from the early/mid period of the band that he actually sang the vocal lines to songs properly. He spent the next 4 years screaming himself horse during most shows.
@TheSPumpkin100 that grummer was great. "they only come out at night" sticks out in my mind as the worst song on mellon collie, but hey, what the hell do i know, i gave up on them around then. went to see them in dublin years ago. some poor young girl up from the country got crushed to death. wouldn't mind, but she was probably only there coz she liked 1979. tragic. i think her name was roisin.
@groovey65 If I remember correctly he said"..WE took lots of LSD..", not "they" or "the rest of the band". Maybe you're right, maybe not. Let's not argue about this. Let's agree that Starla is an amazing song from an amazing band, whether they were high or not.. :)
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I miss Billy on LSD...
When he cut his hair, he lost his evil powers. Let this be a lesson...
you cant trip acid in front of a crowd if you dont have hair to hide your eyes. Let this be a lesson
Male pattern baldness, there's only a couple of comb overs you can stomach before you shave the whole thing.
To be fair, he had medium-length hair in the videos for Siamese Dream, lol.
he had evil powers after he cut his hair
i can barely breathe.. this is such a brilliant version of this song..
To disappear takes so much time.
No one else fails like me; in my eyes I burn alive.
Billy understands. He'll always be my zero.
Best song ever in the history of everything.
god i love the way he pronounces his 'er' s. "heart" "disappear" etc
I like how he pronounces his “ire,” like “vampire” and “fire”
The whole Starla solo was recorded most likely with this Jaguar. Whammy bar all over that shit. So good!
@wardcurry
I remember buying this with Plume & I Am One on it before Siamese Dream was being released. Well in advance actually.
to be more specific... for the ultimate corgan sound... just use what he used for Siamese Dream. Marshall JCM800 with KT88 tubes, all EQ rolled to full gain on full, use the post gain as volume... Fender Strat with Lace Sensor pickups with pickup switch set to position 2 (on a 5 way) high tone rolled to 3 and low tone rolled to 8. Fender Blender is a good octave/distortion box. Fuzzface. There ya go.
Really wish Billy would have embraced the fact the he Is Smashing Pumpkins, rather than deciding he needed to Become Radiohead. It all went to Hell after (and during) Mellon Collie.
The song that sets the pumpkins apart from their peers. Thanks for posting this. Great Jaguar noise solo.
I remember this show... my god, has it been 17 years already?!
No, its been 28 😉
[cough]
Not 28 but 30 years now.
This is a gem !!!
Maybe their best song, along with X.Y.U.
I think the reason is that this guys were an almost perfect team....(the real fab four).You just take one out, and the magic is gone.
this version is kickin for real... : )
at the virgin festival billy said " this next one is a song i wrote during a period i was taking a lot of mushrooms. So if you're on mushrooms, this will sound good to you, and if you're not on em it will too."
ha i always thought this was for sure one of if not the trippiest tune the pumpkins have....... 93 versions have so much more energy though, billy basically screaming every line, thats how i like my starla........... : )
Best psychedelic rock song period
i just feel compelled to comment on how fucking badass these vids from '92 are. thanks
Clapping at 3:50 . No one knows this song obviously .
One of the best SP songs. Fuck fuck fuck, I love this version.
Thanks for posting.
Just take your time and imagine about this alternate universe... What if Billy Corgan was one of the Beatles.
words cant even describe how fucking awesome this song is. its just beyond belief. .....wow
thank you for this coolasicecream! it made my day
holy shit this song is amazing. did billy break one of his own strings to create that effect at the end?
LOVE that bell sharp crisp tone of his guitar in the beginning. Fender on Fender...? This song brings back so many memories. Ahhh... Summer days of no responsibilities, baked out of my skull listening to Pisces Iscariot with friends long lost through the slipstream of existence. Man, getting old is fucked... but memories are precisely that.
ZWAN were amazing, especially live. Just "Mary Star Of The Sea" (record, not song) mostly sucked.
@bladerunner1b
I would give anything for that =( The pumpkins were the most epic band in the history of the universe when they were all tripping balls
The end part = One of the coolest things ever.
I'd give anything to have gone to their concerts back then... Though they're still AMAZING live today, I saw them only three weeks ago, it totally blew me away!!!
The crowd surfers are funny, I don't really see that happen these days much anymore, at least not to that extent. Through this live performance you can see that everyone was a lot more relaxed back then...
you can call me wrong but i think this is there best song ever..............
you're perhaps right
@groovey65
Then why does he say they took lots of LSD on the audio commentary to "Rhinoceros" on the DVD with all their commercial videos?!?
is that a jaguar?
it's the b-side to the gish version of i am one. (not worth asking was the b-side to the origonal version). it was later released on pisces iscariot, which is a proper release of unproperly released songs. a compilation if you will. not a "real" album.
I am a grown man and can listen to anything I want. This video gets played on a regular basis. Magic at 5:52 and beyond.
I agree with nirvanarugby...I really haven't heard any of SP's new stuff and I don't think I want to so not to ruin the SP I grew up with... Billy in a dress and all!!! I think I've seen SP about 10 times... best was at a club called the Ritz in Phoenix sometime in the 90's. Viva SP and Viva Morrissey!!!
Don't forget the various pre-amps that he has used during various times.
Gish: ADA MP-1
Siamese Dream : Marshall JMP-1 & Mesa-Boogie Tri-Axis. I'm not certain but the Mesa may have only come along for touring.
Various changes after that.
Holy hell! Billy using a whammy bar! 6:53
Now, that's rare.
Amazing song..how I wish I could go back to 1991 to 1994 and go to these awesome gigs the pumpkins put on..
not as good these days live unfortunatley :(
@McLovin666ll You telling me not to respond to this message is obviously going to make me want to reply more. First off, it's highly fashionable these days for people to slam a band for sounding like shit and then claim that they admire the band or are a fan of the band isn't it? If you like a band and the music they've put out you realize that when playing it night after night live the song's solos can take on certain changes. Saying it's the "worst solo ever" is just plain ignorant.
@BLURCEG he's human like everyone else. people forget that when you become a celebrity. they only want from you what you did originally that got you known or famous.. if you want to change or to do anything else youre automatically a sell-out.. which is ridiculous.. you try playing the same type of songs/songs & music style for the rest of your life.. it gets boring.. no one can consistantly write awesome songs of the same style forever..
@BLURCEG Dude, He's one of the most talented songwriters of my generation, and he highly messed up with the feelings of millions of people around the world with his art. I don't know him, I don't know if he's an asshole, and I don't care. In fact, he can be what he wants, because he's Mr Billy Fucking Corgan, we owe him for all the amazing work he has done.
Amazingly talented people like him are not common person, they have special license to be whatever they want.
@BLURCEG.. ive always said that.. hes not my friend but being under a magnifying glass for so long must skew a personality quite a bit. like when it was printed that he made osbournes wife sick and every one was freakin out that she hated him or whatever.. later she stated that she meant she literally caught his cold ^.^ people r stupid gossipers rnt they? he was my first crush when i was 7 years old and ive never believed all the crap
@stoolet I don't care how many times you've seen them we've already talked about it.... The truth is Billy loves to confuse people! I'm not saying he never did drugs but the one thing I can say is that he would not have done them during Siamese Dream sessions because he cared way too much about that record.
You have to understand Billy is an artist and you can't stay in the same place emotionally, over the years you grow and you change, it's just part of life. It would be very boring as an artist to write the same style songs for twenty years and if Billy is anything like me my life depends on growth and change both musically and spiritually or I will die.
Sorry to add this in also, if you listen closely you can hear the octave pedal tracking bad in a couple of parts. It makes an odd "warbling" kind of sound where the pitch shifts back and forth from the input octave to the pedal produced shifted octave. Thats why I figured its probably the Fender Blender. But it does make a nice chimey doubled kind of sound.
a long time ago, for my English class, I had to present a song I like to my classmates & teacher, I choose that one. hehe, you guys can imagine their facial expression! aaaah! good times!
I totally disagree. Smashing Pumpkins has always been all about Billy. We saw how vital Jimmy was though, once he was gone. But, Darcy and James Iha were always disposable. You do know that Billy very often played their part in the recorded album versions, don't you?
I totally disagree. Smashing Pumpkins has always been all about Billy. We saw how vital Jimmy was though, once he was gone. But, Darcy and James Iha were always disposable. You do know that Billy very often played their part in the recorded album versions, don't you?
It's hard to discern exactly effect it could be, but the chime is most likely from a Fender Blender octave/Fuzz pedal. Corgan used that effect a good bit. It basically shifts the octave 1 step higher and also adds the fuzz effect. Nice pedal, originals are kind of hard to come by though.
I'm amazed that he busted that out on a Jaguar and not a Strat. I wonder why he chose that guitar for this song...
His sound can be achieved through fuzz pedals octaves and some reverb. but mostly fuzz. lotta fuzz distortion
and old amps like vintage vox or something like that
I recomend you buy the Fender octave fuzz stop box. its all you'll really need
@tommytentiming Oh no! James Iha isn't there anymore! The guy that hardly contributed to the band is gone! What a travesty! The only other guy that contributed to the band other than Billy, was Jimmy. He was the only loss to the band.
What happened to Billy Corgan!? Smashing Pumpkins were the best band in the world at this time. He was never able to maintain or recapture this vibe. Everything after Siamese Dream is garbage. Newest CD is unlistenable trash.
love the music, just wish he'd grow out his hair. he doesn't look right with his big egg head. Its all white and round you just want to punch his big head. if he's going bald just throw some propecia on it or something.
i was there 11/8 in greensboro, They played This very Awsome, and I also enjoyed "set the ray to jerry" They were so good, I also liked how the crowd was, So many tru fans, seemed like everyone knew every word allmost.
Really? He wears dresses all the time...machina had bell skirts and zeigeist has the silver multi-tiered skirt..
although. i suppose this is really a lot more of a woman's dresss..
Dimebag Darrell is probably the best 90s GUITARIST, but his song writing is crap next to Billy's. And Billy is an awesome guitarist. And classical music knows no time limitations!
Although it sounds a tiny bit like the Gish era Pumpkins (something Billy wanted to avoid in SD) there is no reason why this shouldn't have graced SD.
@alternatehistories
I'm not certain that you have the cause and effect correctly postulated.
Billy and the Pumkins prove they are on another level. Seeing the Pumpkins live a few times was some of the best times I've ever had. It's like The Velvet Underground and the Doors had a baby and that baby sweated pure MDMA and musical orgasms through it's pores.
@Sikamikanico999 nope he never touched drugs! after his dad who was also a musician got addicted he vowed never to do them.
crap that guitaar tone for the outro solo! way far out. People who hate the pumpkins never really know how hard they rock.
He said he used it on Cherub Rock... Both of those albums used similar equipment anyway. Aside from the amps.
this song is fuckin amazing... and the solo... masterpiece!
its weird the more i heard from the pre baldness era the less i liked of the post baldness era
This was about the last point from the early/mid period of the band that he actually sang the vocal lines to songs properly. He spent the next 4 years screaming himself horse during most shows.
fuckin quality pumpkins, you wouldnt see billy like that now. Bring back the old pumpkins!
I wish I had seen them before they split up. I'm sorry I missed them by a generation D=
La puta madre, esta cancion y una buena mina... y si que vale la pena estar vivo...
Yeah I would probably hate him too if he wasn't a guitar god and wrote Siamese Dream
Ha, Billies using a bassballs pedal, I had one of them, it was frankly a bit shit.
@Gott0300 Doesn't nessacarily mean he did, could just mean everybody else.
me too, i guess at that time i was playing lego in a kindergarten, damn =(
whammy for president
I would name myself starla nah just kiddin but its a good name tho
One day before I was born :O
this is not grunge it's exprimental psycodelic rock kinda stuff
Your loss. Popularity doesn't automatically mitigate quality.
this song rocks so hard. anyone know why corgan is in a dress?
HE HAD HAIR! OMG!
but his voices sucked just as it sucks now
love this track play it everyday on the way to work.
@mjakephoto read the description... Chicago 07/24/92
And 96...
the people talking in the background is irritating
@TheSPumpkin100 that grummer was great. "they only come out at night" sticks out in my mind as the worst song on mellon collie, but hey, what the hell do i know, i gave up on them around then.
went to see them in dublin years ago. some poor young girl up from the country got crushed to death. wouldn't mind, but she was probably only there coz she liked 1979.
tragic. i think her name was roisin.
What a sound! Grunge!!!
woulndt your name be darla then?
were they on tour with nirvana during this jam?
@jsandstorm94 where is this show? anyone?
How bout that Fender Jaguar!!
Beautiful absolutely beautiful
is that a jazzmaster?
you were born in 92? wow, youngin
my favorite pumpkins b-side EVER
wish this was better quality
i agree...is a musical osrgasm.
lol Billy that plays a jaguar
@groovey65
If I remember correctly he said"..WE took lots of LSD..", not "they" or "the rest of the band".
Maybe you're right, maybe not. Let's not argue about this. Let's agree that Starla is an amazing song from an amazing band, whether they were high or not.. :)
Yup
that was fucking awesome!
hes in a dress rite
HOLY CRAP LONG HAIR
das some hot sheeit